Mayweather refuses Manny's demand for a 50/50 split. Fight is in serious trouble.

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

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Pacquiao Says Mayweather Offered a $40 Million Flat Fee
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By Edward Chaykovsky

According to WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao, he was treated like an opponent during last week's*infamous telephone call with Floyd Mayweather Jr., Pacquiao claims he was offered a $40 million dollar guarantee - but nothing further- for a welterweight mega-fight on May 5th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Mayweather would retain 100% of the money generated from pay-per-view, and other various sources of revenue. Pacquiao turned the offer down and requested an even 50-50 split, which Mayweather rejected.

“He said he will guarantee me $40 million but I won’t have any share on the pay-per-view and other sources of revenue,” said Pacquiao to veteran reporter Nick Giongco of Tempo. “How can he leave me out of the pay-per-view when I generate more than him in pay-per-view sales? I am still praying that Mayweather gets enlightened because I believe that I am not being unreasonable.”

Tags: Manny Pacquiao , Floyd Mayweather Jr. , Mayweather-Pacquiao , Mayweather vs Pacquiao

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

Freddie Roach?... really Buk? Freddie Roach arguing about the position on the issues with this fight is like Netanyahu arguing about why the Palestinians are totally responsible for the conflict in the west bank.

Lmao

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

40 million out of a 100 plus purse and no other revenue money. Seriously PBF doesn't want this fight.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

40 million out of a 100 plus purse and no other revenue money. Seriously PBF doesn't want this fight.

What happened to all that talk about negotiating? If this is true, Floyd started from a position he knew he wouldn't get and Manny threw out a counterproposal. That's negotiating. But you take it and decide Floyd doesn't want the fight, a fight almost everyone thinks he would win because Pacquiao's weaknesses play into his strengths. That's that lack of consistency I keep telling you about while you keep claiming (despite months of evidence to the contrary) that you call it down the line, without bias.
Seeing how he's just a boxer and not a promoter, I wonder how much of ancilliary revenue Manny gets anyway.

 

[Alaskanredman]

Why does no one call out Cotto for ducking fighters? First Paul Williams, now Martinez. He clearly ducks these guys but no one says anything about but will make up fighters that Mayweather supposedly "ducked".



He had but he can make 154.
But since we agree he's a middleweight, can we just scratch his name from the list of guys Floyd Mayweather should fight?

Its funny how they support insane ideas like Cotto dominating a division and being ducked by Mayweather and at the same time shit on Judah like he didn't redeem himself beating Spinks... Making himself the top welter weight at a time when Cotto was just getting to the point of fighting guys like Corley, who they also shit on. Then you got Baldomir beating Zab and Gatti at a time when Cotto's toughest comp was Malignaggi. Again, dudes really need to stop this shit, and acting like they're being objective.

 

[Alaskanredman]

40 million out of a 100 plus purse and no other revenue money. Seriously PBF doesn't want this fight.

The man made 7 mill off of his biggest fight. I think Manny should be happy to get anything around 40, but again we would not be at this point if Manny didn't say he would take less. I'm just wondering how much less he was willing to go.

 

[Alaskanredman]

easy eewwll Buk dont understand logic

truth

 

[Nzinga]

Well for a man who has never got more than $7.4 mil, and is borrowing money from Top Rank to stay afloat, a guaranteed $40 mil is not such a shabby deal for a beating of no more than 36 minutes

 

[Mask]

With his so said money problems, Mayweather thought low-balling him would work, just part of negotiating. Floyd maybe offers $40 flat and 40% pay per view and 20% of other revenues next time.

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Pacquiao Says Mayweather Offered a $40 Million Flat Fee
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By Edward Chaykovsky

According to WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao, he was treated like an opponent during last week's*infamous telephone call with Floyd Mayweather Jr., Pacquiao claims he was offered a $40 million dollar guarantee - but nothing further- for a welterweight mega-fight on May 5th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Mayweather would retain 100% of the money generated from pay-per-view, and other various sources of revenue. Pacquiao turned the offer down and requested an even 50-50 split, which Mayweather rejected.

“He said he will guarantee me $40 million but I won’t have any share on the pay-per-view and other sources of revenue,” said Pacquiao to veteran reporter Nick Giongco of Tempo. “How can he leave me out of the pay-per-view when I generate more than him in pay-per-view sales? I am still praying that Mayweather gets enlightened because I believe that I am not being unreasonable.”

Tags: Manny Pacquiao , Floyd Mayweather Jr. , Mayweather-Pacquiao , Mayweather vs Pacquiao

 

[Upgrade Dave]

With his so said money problems, Mayweather thought low-balling him would work, just part of negotiating. Floyd maybe offers $40 flat and 40% pay per view and 20% of other revenues next time.

While it was a lowball, it might be more than Manny makes if they split it 50/50. I know Floyd gets a percentage of ppv and all kinds of revenue, like Golden Boy and Top Rank, but how much of that is Manny entitled to as just a fighter.

 

[HeathCliff]

Well for a man who has never got more than $7.4 mil, and is borrowing money from Top Rank to stay afloat, a guaranteed $40 mil is not such a shabby deal for a beating of no more than 36 minutes

^This

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

The man made 7 mill off of his biggest fight. I think Manny should be happy to get anything around 40, but again we would not be at this point if Manny didn't say he would take less. I'm just wondering how much less he was willing to go.

He was guaranteed 22 million against Juan
He was guaranteed 15 million against antonio

I could keep going. And mind you this is before the Other revenues are split. But it doesn't matter cause you guys are slightly off when it comes to pbf. I mean damn. Have yall ever heard of google. Lmao taking alaska's word. Yall stay losing. It makes sense PBF keep 60 million and all the other revenue monies. Lmao!

 

[Zeferino]

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Pacquiao Says Mayweather Offered a $40 Million Flat Fee
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By Edward Chaykovsky

According to WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao, he was treated like an opponent during last week's*infamous telephone call with Floyd Mayweather Jr., Pacquiao claims he was offered a $40 million dollar guarantee - but nothing further- for a welterweight mega-fight on May 5th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Mayweather would retain 100% of the money generated from pay-per-view, and other various sources of revenue. Pacquiao turned the offer down and requested an even 50-50 split, which Mayweather rejected.

“He said he will guarantee me $40 million but I won’t have any share on the pay-per-view and other sources of revenue,” said Pacquiao to veteran reporter Nick Giongco of Tempo. “How can he leave me out of the pay-per-view when I generate more than him in pay-per-view sales? I am still praying that Mayweather gets enlightened because I believe that I am not being unreasonable.”

Tags: Manny Pacquiao , Floyd Mayweather Jr. , Mayweather-Pacquiao , Mayweather vs Pacquiao

No PPV, no other pieces of the pie? Mayweather is trying to fuck Pacquiao over worst than Arum. If this article is true, I don't know how anyone could think that is fair to a big name star. Shit, Pacquiao is arguably a bigger name than Mayweather on a global level. This whole situation is so pitiful for the fans that just get manipulated and teased over and over every year over this fight.

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

Its funny how they support insane ideas like Cotto dominating a division and being ducked by Mayweather and at the same time shit on Judah like he didn't redeem himself beating Spinks... Making himself the top welter weight at a time when Cotto was just getting to the point of fighting guys like Corley, who they also shit on. Then you got Baldomir beating Zab and Gatti at a time when Cotto's toughest comp was Malignaggi. Again, dudes really need to stop this shit, and acting like they're being objective.

Lol, just stop.

 

[Zeferino]

He was guaranteed 22 million against Juan
He was guaranteed 15 million against antonio

I could keep going. And mind you this is before the Other revenues are split. But it doesn't matter cause you guys are slightly off when it comes to pbf. I mean damn. Have yall ever heard of google. Lmao taking alaska's word. Yall stay losing. It makes sense PBF keep 60 million and all the other revenue monies. Lmao!

I think they're basing the 7.4 million number on this little paper that someone posted supposedly showing his purses for fights in Nevada. The paper does not appear to be complete or updated. It could even be a hoax.

 

[Alaskanredman]

Lol, just stop.

Is it wrong? Or is that another duck?

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Its funny how they support insane ideas like Cotto dominating a division and being ducked by Mayweather and at the same time shit on Judah like he didn't redeem himself beating Spinks... Making himself the top welter weight at a time when Cotto was just getting to the point of fighting guys like Corley, who they also shit on. Then you got Baldomir beating Zab and Gatti at a time when Cotto's toughest comp was Malignaggi. Again, dudes really need to stop this shit, and acting like they're being objective.

Lol, just stop.

C'mon buk. Cotto is one ducking summabitch. He hasn't had a real fight in years despite plenty of avaiable quality fighters at 154 to pick from.

 

[Zeferino]

Why does no one call out Cotto for ducking fighters? First Paul Williams, now Martinez. He clearly ducks these guys but no one says anything about but will make up fighters that Mayweather supposedly "ducked".



He had but he can make 154.
But since we agree he's a middleweight, can we just scratch his name from the list of guys Floyd Mayweather should fight?

Go ahead. I don't agree with being accused of ducking guys not even in your division. All I've ever asked of from way back is that Floyd be an active fighter and show some dominance in his division by taking everyone out at welterweight including the top 5 contenders. As a traditionalist, I think the #1 P4P fighter should at least have his own division under control.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Go ahead. I don't agree with being accused of ducking guys not even in your division. All I've ever asked of from way back is that Floyd be in active fighter and show some dominance in his division by taking everyone out at welterweight including the top 5 contenders. As a traditionalist, I think the #1 P4P fighter should at least have his own division under control.

I don't like the idea of saying it's ducking if the guy isn't in your division but Williams and Martinez were in Cotto's division at times (Williams at welter, Martinez at jr middle) and were both top guys and he never fought either one.
I don't see the value of a true top guy beating the ranked number 3-5 guy in his division. That doesn't prove anything. Those guys are ranked like because they either lost to the top contender or haven't beaten anyone of note.

 

[Zeferino]

The man fought in the division not to long ago and said he would come back for Cotto which would be to Cotto's advantage, but Cotto wanted to fight guys who haven't had any good wins since the mid 2000s. So to my understanding if a guy is number 1, moves up, but says he will come back to fight the top guys at that weight... he is still number one till someone takes it from him. Also how can you say he's the best when there are plenty of guys in the division who have been making actual waves and he's fighting Mayorga and Margarito. Who did Mayorga and Margarito beat in the last three years so that beating them adds legitimacy to the claim that Cotto is the best at 154. This is exactly what I mean when I say you guys don't place anybody else under the microscope like Floyd. I really don't understand this shit and to add it's funny when motherfuckers talk about Martinez being too big for Floyd... there is no question about them meeting some where in the middle, but Cotto gets specialized treatment with the same opponent and yet, people act like he should even be relevant in the discussion of who should fight Pac or Floyd next.

I don't know about all this other stuff your yapping about. You said Sergio Martinez was the #1 junior middle in the world and he hasn't even been fighting in that division for several fights now. That's what I'm talking about. Pacquiao can probably still make 140 but that doesn't mean he's the top junior welterweight.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I don't know about all this other stuff your yapping about. You said Sergio Martinez was the #1 junior middle in the world and he hasn't even been fighting in that division for several fights now. That's what I'm talking about. Pacquiao can probably still make 140 but that doesn't mean he's the top junior welterweight.

True but Martinez moved up to middleweight, where he's a small middleweight, because he couldn't get any fights at 154 after ko'ing Williams in their rematch. So to some, he's the best at 154 and 160 and I don't think he even has a title.

 

[Zeferino]

I don't like the idea of saying it's ducking if the guy isn't in your division but Williams and Martinez were in Cotto's division at times (Williams at welter, Martinez at jr middle) and were both top guys and he never fought either one.
I don't see the value of a true top guy beating the ranked number 3-5 guy in his division. That doesn't prove anything. Those guys are ranked like because they either lost to the top contender or haven't beaten anyone of note.

Well, people don't accuse Cotto of ducking because he fought Margarito, Pacquiao, a still fresh Shane Mosley and Zab Judah. In 2008, Cotto was busy losing to Antonio Margarito and Paul Williams was busy losing to Carlos Quintana. After the Quintana rematch, Williams bounced to 154. In 2007, Cotto fought Shane Mosley and Williams fought Margarito. I can't see faulting any guy for ducking if they were both fighting the players in the division. They were probably headed towards fighting each other had Williams not bounced to 154. Also, Cotto shouldn't be accused of ducking because he's light skinned.

 

[Zeferino]

True but Martinez moved up to middleweight, where he's a small middleweight, because he couldn't get any fights at 154 after ko'ing Williams in their rematch. So to some, he's the best at 154 and 160 and I don't think he even has a title.

Martinez has the title at 160. Personally, I'm not going to call him the best at 154 if he's not even there anymore. His last fight at 154 happened almost 3 years ago. To me, he's a bonafide middleweight. Cotto has plenty other quality junior middles to worry about and I don't think they'd be a cakewalk for Mayweather either.

 

[greenz]

I don't like the idea of saying it's ducking if the guy isn't in your division but Williams and Martinez were in Cotto's division at times (Williams at welter, Martinez at jr middle) and were both top guys and he never fought either one.
I don't see the value of a true top guy beating the ranked number 3-5 guy in his division. That doesn't prove anything. Those guys are ranked like because they either lost to the top contender or haven't beaten anyone of note.

#truth

No your argument isn't valid because the fact is your OPPONENT has the same DRAWING power. So no...Oscar wouldn't take less if he was fighting some LOW ranked fighter. No..Tyson wouldn't either. But the FACT IS Floyd won't see NO PARTS OF THAT $150MM DOLLAR PUSSY WITHOUT MANNY....Fact or NOT? Give the man 50/50 and stop hiding like a bitch. Can't believe the brothas are buying that bullshit...PEDs...BLOOD TESTING..May 5th...50/50...resurrect James Brown...what fuckin excuse will be given next while you "call out" another fighter? You seriously understand why? C'mon bruh..

You're half retarded right? You know the biggest fight in history was De La Hoya / PBF right???? Pacman ain't makin nowhere near 150mm without mayweather! Your logic is flawed because PBF has already made that type of money. Pacman next fight(if its not mayweather) will be his last i hope its against marquez because we all know marquez won that last fight or it should have been a draw. Mayweather will always be the biggest draw niggas is getting tried of Pacman and his flurry of punches he's going to get exposed real quick.

Only to Floyd fans...to every other muthafucka it just makes fuckin sense....Why give a nigga MORE than 50% when he can't earn the cake without you?

Do you even watch boxing?

He was guaranteed 22 million against Juan
He was guaranteed 15 million against antonio

I could keep going. And mind you this is before the Other revenues are split. But it doesn't matter cause you guys are slightly off when it comes to pbf. I mean damn. Have yall ever heard of google. Lmao taking alaska's word. Yall stay losing. It makes sense PBF keep 60 million and all the other revenue monies. Lmao!

they dont hear you though they are using only their fan based logic to make the fight happen not there business logic

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Well, people don't accuse Cotto of ducking because he fought Margarito, Pacquiao, a still fresh Shane Mosley and Zab Judah. In 2008, Cotto was busy losing to Antonio Margarito and Paul Williams was busy losing to Carlos Quintana. After the Quintana rematch, Williams bounced to 154. In 2007, Cotto fought Shane Mosley and Williams fought Margarito. I can't see faulting any guy for ducking if they were both fighting the players in the division. They were probably headed towards fighting each other had Williams not bounced to 154. Also, Cotto shouldn't be accused of ducking because he's light skinned.

Because he's light skinned????

I think Cotto was a tough fighter at welterweight but he's been less than stellar and brave at jr middle.
I don't see him and Williams ever fighting at 147. If he wanted that fight, it was always there for the taking. Williams fought Quintana because no one else would fight him. He moved to 154 because the top welterweights wouldn't fight him (Mayweather, Mosley, Cotto, Pacquiao). He was where Martinez is now.

Martinez has the title at 160. Personally, I'm not going to call him the best at 154 if he's not even there anymore. His last fight at 154 happened almost 3 years ago. To me, he's a bonafide middleweight. Cotto has plenty other quality junior middles to worry about and I don't think they'd be a cakewalk for Mayweather either.

Does he? I lost track.
I don't think Cotto would be an easy fight but he's not even close to even money.
I agree that Martinez is a legit middleweight, much like Pacquiao is a legit welter, just small for the division. Sergio has enough people avoiding him in that division to not have to worry about Cotto.

 

[greenz]

Because he's light skinned????

I think Cotto was a tough fighter at welterweight but he's been less than stellar and brave at jr middle.
I don't see him and Williams ever fighting at 147. If he wanted that fight, it was always there for the taking. Williams fought Quintana because no one else would fight him. He moved to 154 because the top welterweights wouldn't fight him (Mayweather, Mosley, Cotto, Pacquiao). He was where Martinez is now.



Does he? I lost track.
I don't think Cotto would be an easy fight but he's not even close to even money.
I agree that Martinez is a legit middleweight, much like Pacquiao is a legit welter, just small for the division. Sergio has enough people avoiding him in that division to not have to worry about Cotto.

They don't hear you though upgrade .... i'm beginning to believe most of these guys don't know boxing at all and its a waste of time to argue with them.

 

[Alaskanredman]

I don't know about all this other stuff your yapping about. You said Sergio Martinez was the #1 junior middle in the world and he hasn't even been fighting in that division for several fights now. That's what I'm talking about. Pacquiao can probably still make 140 but that doesn't mean he's the top junior welterweight.

Come on... He has been calling Cotto out for awhile without a peep out of Cotto. Who at 140 has Pac been calling out? You analogy would make sense if Pac spent his time at welter saying he would move back to 140 for a top guy, called out Bradley for awhile and could only get fights at 160.

Like I've said, even if we play the game of excluding Marquez, there is still guys who have been making names for themselves at 154 and other champions thay he has stayed away from.

 

[Alaskanredman]

Because he's light skinned????

I think Cotto was a tough fighter at welterweight but he's been less than stellar and brave at jr middle.
I don't see him and Williams ever fighting at 147. If he wanted that fight, it was always there for the taking. Williams fought Quintana because no one else would fight him. He moved to 154 because the top welterweights wouldn't fight him (Mayweather, Mosley, Cotto, Pacquiao). He was where Martinez is now.



Does he? I lost track.
I don't think Cotto would be an easy fight but he's not even close to even money.
I agree that Martinez is a legit middleweight, much like Pacquiao is a legit welter, just small for the division. Sergio has enough people avoiding him in that division to not have to worry about Cotto.

The nuance that is used to explain Cotto's career is very funny.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

They don't hear you though upgrade .... i'm beginning to believe most of these guys don't know boxing at all and its a waste of time to argue with them.

I had grown tired of this particular thread (and I'm avoiding the one about Manny and his money completely at this point) but Zeferino, as crazy as he is, is a smart boxing guy. We just disagree on a lot of stuff.

The nuance that is used to explain Cotto's career is very funny.

I noticed.

 

[greenz]

I had grown tired of this particular thread (and I'm avoiding the one about Manny and his money completely at this point) but Zeferino, as crazy as he is, is a smart boxing guy. We just disagree on a lot of stuff.



I noticed.

Yes you might want to avoid it i had to lay it into a couple of folks in there.

I will disagree with you on one thing i think when Williams was hot thats around the same time Mayweather just came back off retirement. Williams made the jump too soon and got whopped so his money earning potential dropped significantly so did his draw. Mayweather could have took the fight and Paul williams was doing his thing for a hot second but I don't think he was in Mayweather league as far as being the biggest draw he was still uncut and rough around the edges. It would have been a damn good fight but Williams still had alot to prove and getting knocked out when he moved up wasn't the smartest move.

Instead of Mayweather making a risky move he played it smart and worked it to his advantage.

 

[Alaskanredman]

I had grown tired of this particular thread (and I'm avoiding the one about Manny and his money completely at this point) but Zeferino, as crazy as he is, is a smart boxing guy. We just disagree on a lot of stuff.



I noticed.

He has seen a lot of fights, but smart is too strong.

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

C'mon buk. Cotto is one ducking summabitch. He hasn't had a real fight in years despite plenty of avaiable quality fighters at 154 to pick from.

I agree about the lack of tough fights for him since Manny. But that is what these guys do. I would say Cotto's last tough fight was against Manny. Manny's last tough fight was Antonio (size) or Cotto (level he was fighting at). PBF's last tough fight was Oscar. At a certain point it becomes about how much reward they can get with the least amount of risk. That hurts boxing more than anything. Kirkland and Anguelo were fighting to get to a point where they don't have to take tough fights anymore. That is what is wrong with the game. At least to me. When you celebrate an easy win in the sport. Something is very wrong.

But the argument you are making is what I have made about PBF in almost every division. Since we have established that certain fighters don't have to challenge theselves and just make money. Cotto remains the best in his division.

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

Instead of Mayweather making a risky move he played it smart and worked it to his advantage.

This is where I differ with the average fans this days. You don't sit back and let your competitors fight each other and then use the loses as an excuse why you don't fight them. You beat them and claim victory.

 

[Alaskanredman]

I agree about the lack of tough fights for him since Manny. But that is what these guys do. I would say Cotto's last tough fight was against Manny. Manny's last tough fight was Antonio (size) or Cotto (level he was fighting at). PBF's last tough fight was Oscar. At a certain point it becomes about how much reward they can get with the least amount of risk. That hurts boxing more than anything. Kirkland and Anguelo were fighting to get to a point where they don't have to take tough fights anymore. That is what is wrong with the game. At least to me. When you celebrate an easy win in the sport. Something is very wrong.

But the argument you are making is what I have made about PBF in almost every division. Since we have established that certain fighters don't have to challenge theselves and just make money. Cotto remains the best in his division.

GTFOH...
Cotto hasn't even had decent fights. He could havr fought K-9 who isn't shit but he is at least a champion.

Also Manny's last tough fight was Marquez 2 & 3. How the fuck do count a fight were Manny beat his opponent down and almost retired him. You can't be serious.

 

[Alaskanredman]

This is where I differ with the average fans this days. You don't sit back and let your competitors fight each other and then use the loses as an excuse why you don't fight them. You beat them and claim victory.

None of them had peaked at that point and none of them called him out.