Marvel Movie Discussion: The Thunderbolts* Update: Sentry? NEW BIG GAME TRAILER!

Man we here on this one. I stayed away from reviews a this thread and until I saw it. I’m shocked to see the reaction to it in here. Well made and well directed film with some great action. Definitely will see it again.

Bro Isaw audiences clapping and cheering and laughing throughout

I am legit SHOCKED by some of the responses in here.

I only read like 2 so I don't know how really prevalent it is.

But in REAL LIFE? Folks really enjoyed this movie.
 
I will DEFEND Marvels to the death that somewhere in there in between all that mess? WAS a GOOD movie.

It was NOT horrible. The power share scenes were clever. Ms Marvel may be the best character we got. Chemistry was great. It just needed some editing. Okay a LOT of editing. But it was NOT horrible.
Just wasn’t my cup of tea. I actually liked the Ms Marvel series. To be honest I’m just not a fan of the character Captain Marvel. I think there’s a way to make that character work. I just don’t know how.
 
Just wasn’t my cup of tea. I actually liked the Ms Marvel series. To be honest I’m just not a fan of the character Captain Marvel. I think there’s a way to make that character work. I just don’t know how.

Oh brother that is bigger talk in another thread when we really have time.
 
Bro Isaw audiences clapping and cheering and laughing throughout

I am legit SHOCKED by some of the responses in here.

I only read like 2 so I don't know how really prevalent it is.

But in REAL LIFE? Folks really enjoyed this movie.
Yeah I just read this last page haven’t made it to the previous page yet.
 
Pleas stop with the lazy Suicide Squad comparison.

Its even lazier than comparing Sinners to Dusk till Dawn

They aint the same.
It’s lazy. But there are some parrallells….both are stories about bad guys who are heroes or trying to be. Bucky basically Rick Flag. It’s lazy but I can see both Guardians and Suicide squad influences.
 
don't willfully disturb your peace bro.
I noticed though people move to go against the grain. It’s starting to happen with Sinners now. It’s weird as hell. I’m wondering did we all even watch the same movie. If anyone wants to say they shouldn’t have fought a villain like Sentrey that’s fair but I thought they did and handled it the only way they could while making him a threat.
 
I noticed though people move to go against the grain. It’s starting to happen with Sinners now. It’s weird as hell. I’m wondering did we all even watch the same movie. If anyone wants to say they shouldn’t have fought a villain like Sentrey that’s fair but I thought they did and handled it the only way they could while making him a threat.

Kaboom von doom
 
Yep, it's a 7 for me.

Marvels was a good movie. I don't know what you was seeing.
I wanted to care about them but I didn’t. Despite Marvel introducing all 3 in their own shit. I didn’t care and honestly I don’t care about most female Marvel characters. They don’t do a good job of writing them. I find myself enjoying most of the female women in Wakanda. If the standard is Black Panther and Winter Soldier and End game? Yeah it’s a fail for me.
 
PRAISE: No Avengers,No Defenders,The West Coast Avengers are barely a thought at this time. So who can the world depend on to stop an unstoppable menace. The Thunderbolts*
made up of anti heroes with a capital A. Yelena Belova, Bucky Barnes, Red Guardian, Ghost, Taskmaster and John Walker either dealing with their own personal problems or new lanes in life are at times able to capture that great rhythm of the former Avengers and Avengers films of the past. Dealing with personal trauma and wounded psyches and blended with action is when the movie started to become effective for me. As Yelena Florence Pugh stands out the most. Shes dealing with anguish but she still has a soft spot to do the right thing.I thought some interesting things were done with the specific powers of one of the characters. Also some terrific visuals were attached to a character. I did have questions about how certain story threads would be resolved and I did enjoy the resolution for most of them.

PROBLEMS: I had hoped the movie would dive more into a characters psyche because I really wanted to see the character shaken up more. I wish the movie had completely committed to its dark moments. I definitely had some unintentional laughs especially at the first appearance of a character which reminded me of a cheesy 1987 super heroe movie. A few dull let's get it on with it moments pop up here and there.

Scale of 1 to 10 a 7½
 
Uall being to generous or you dont wanna admit rhis was a bad movie. This movie is a 41'2 or a 5 at best. This was badically black widow 1.5
 
Uall being to generous or you dont wanna admit rhis was a bad movie. This movie is a 41'2 or a 5 at best. This was badically black widow 1.5
I mean aside from having 2 or I guess 3 characters from Black Widow I don’t see the connection. What makes it a bad movie?
 
This entire phase of the MCU was based upon milking money from the lesser know Marvel characters - in movies and with the TV shows. Eternals, the Marvels, Moonknight, Thunderbolts.

This is arrogance. The purposely let the X Men and Fantastic 4 sit on the sidelines for years while they prepared to milk shit like The Black Knight.

To add to it, the spent years setting up Kang then decided, nah, we'll switch to Doom. So all of the Kang movies and shows now were pointless.

Loki season 2 need not even exist now.

So, to your point, they need to stop thinking about milking properties, stop talking about expanded timelines. Get a director that loves the content, and just make one really great movie.

Drop your formula, get one talented person and let them work closely with the comic writers and make something great. It worked with X-Men 97, it can work with the movies.

So I'm going to shoot Marvel some bail on this because Black Panther was being set up to be the main guy after Endgame (this is what was rumored so it could be wrong) then chadwick transitions...then Kang is going to be the next baddie, we all know how that ended...so just if Robert Downey Jr. or Chris Evans passes before Civil War..then you gotta scramble to replace one of them...

Let's not forget the change of leadership over at Disney and then having to bring Iger...along with the pandemic. I think they are getting back to it, but Fantastic Four better be really "fantastic" because it's not looking good so far... Thunderbolts was good, but it wasn't all that and I'm looking at these numbers between Thunderbolds and Brave New World and I want people to keep that same energy for Thunderbolts that they did for Brave New World...(i still maintain that BNW wasn't as trash as everyone was saying)
 
You missed the point; My overall point, which ive stated several times; is Marvel TV Shows have been more than solid across the board; and the majority of people who have watched, as well as the critics and the reviews show as much!! Thats my overall point! I was being sarcastic as it relates to his take on Moon Knight....
I'm going to have to go back and watch the TV shows cause I'm in the theater asking my son about Valentina being in She-Hulk or something because I didn't think she was that big of a deal other than post credit scenes
 
I am sure there are thousands of people who think like Kevin Feige or better but haven't been given a chance.

I can't get over the Hulk being turned into a complete PUSSY.

I don't ever want to see the Hulk again.

Fuck Mark Ruffalo.
Agree...John Campea was talking about on the open mic last night about how they could potentially do Hulk vs. Sentry if they ever decided to go down the path of WWHulk, but not this version of Hulk
 
Saw it twice. REALLY enjoyed it.

Good Acting. Fun. Good pacing. Nice way to tie everything together.

I been said for a LONG time Yelena need more spotlight. But EVERYONE came to play from leads to supporting. Casting was well done.

I like how they are bringing ALL the pieces together Movies TV past present intergalactic.

The mental health angle was very clever and well done. Fight scenes were exceptionally choreographed. Good music

Smart post credit scenes.

If yall hating on this I can't take yall seriously.
This prob meant more to me because I got some stuff going on right now.
 
I'm going to have to go back and watch the TV shows cause I'm in the theater asking my son about Valentina being in She-Hulk or something because I didn't think she was that big of a deal other than post credit scenes
I think she 1st appeared in falcon and winter soldier; but yea she’s a solid character!
 
I will DEFEND Marvels to the death that somewhere in there in between all that mess? WAS a GOOD movie.

It was NOT horrible. The power share scenes were clever. Ms Marvel may be the best character we got. Chemistry was great. It just needed some editing. Okay a LOT of editing. But it was NOT horrible.
Agreed. The Power sharing scenes were well done.
 
This prob meant more to me because I got some stuff going on right now.

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We here bro.
 
Saw it twice. REALLY enjoyed it.

Good Acting. Fun. Good pacing. Nice way to tie everything together.

I been said for a LONG time Yelena need more spotlight. But EVERYONE came to play from leads to supporting. Casting was well done.

I like how they are bringing ALL the pieces together Movies TV past present intergalactic.

The mental health angle was very clever and well done. Fight scenes were exceptionally choreographed. Good music

Smart post credit scenes.

If yall hating on this I can't take yall seriously.
I had heard it delt with mental care/well being, but was pleasantly surprised how well they handled it.
 
Ok, since it was mentioned. Taskmaster got killed but I was really hoping she would turn up later in the movie injured pissed and ready to fuck somebody up! And The Sentry 'voiding' regular citizens was a total waste of power. So all the people he voided are still stuck there or did they return when he switched back to 'Bob'?
 
they should have returned when the darkness went away
Ok, since it was mentioned. Taskmaster got killed but I was really hoping she would turn up later in the movie injured pissed and ready to fuck somebody up! And The Sentry 'voiding' regular citizens was a total waste of power. So all the people he voided are still stuck there or did they return when he switched back to 'Bob'?
 
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