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Man, you know me enough to know I'll walk back anything and admit when I'm wrong about something but just one film doesn't really disprove my point, Playa.
Now if you had posted a whole wall of Black biopics released, say, in the last 10-15 years, I'd say you had a point. Furthermore, they're still neglecting Black scientists and engineers. The only biopics on those they've made are Something The Lord Made and Hidden Figures.
I missed y'all too. I had to clear my head and enjoy the summer a bit. It's been fun catching up. Not too much has changed.
True.
Top Gun: Maverick was basically Star Wats Episode 4 with them launching that attack.
The attack scene was basically the same as the Rebels going against the Death Star.
I was waiting for Obi Won to tell Hangman to use the Force when he dropped the bombs.
HaHa!!!
I had to ask an actual pilot if that sh*t was possible?
And could someone REALLY do that with a plane?
The answer was yes
You too, fam.
I hadn't considered him but now that I think about it, this is a good look right here...
He's a great actor and I can see him making a good villain. It's too bad he's just now coming into the fold during the height of "superhero fatigue" though.
Speaking of which, @playahaitian I want your thoughts on the long term implications of the "superhero fatigue" phenomenon. Do you think it's a passing fad or have superhero films lost their magic?
I know. Lol
I was JUST typing out a response cuz!!!
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year, fam!
The issue is Superhero fatigue. Too much Superhero.
Marvel/DC has been focused on the heroes in all the projects and keep the villains as supporting characters.
Marvel has had…
• Red Skull
• Ultron
• Grandmaster
• The Collector
• Ronan the Accuser
• Dormammu
• Arnim Zola
• Baron Zemo
These cats have had major stories thru-out the history of Marvel and they barely had any impact so far in the MCU.
If I was running shit, after the Multi-Verse plot is finished with Avengers:Kang Dynasty, flip the direction of future projects with the MCU and have the storylines from the Villains point of view instead of the heroes.
Marvel had a short lived series focused on the villains back in the 70s.
FUCK!!!
There I go again with a great idea.
Marvel writers are spies on this forum and gonna steal my idea.
I gotta keep shit to myself!
Haha!!!
It's not super hero fatigue it's just that super hero movies are a dying genre. MCU should go away for a year or two and make the audience miss their presence then make a comeback. It's been 23 years of superhero flicks ever since blade or X-Men. Time for a break.
It's Hollywood remember. So having a movie from the villain's point-of-view would automatically turn the character from a villain into an "anti-villain/hero" character. We've seen this with Venom at Sony. In fact, Sony seemed like they were trying what you just suggested by bringing in Vulture and Morpheus but I doubt it'll get off the ground considering how bad Morpheus wasThe issue is Superhero fatigue. Too much Superhero.
Marvel/DC has been focused on the heroes in all the projects and keep the villains as supporting characters.
Marvel has had…
• Red Skull
• Ultron
• Grandmaster
• The Collector
• Ronan the Accuser
• Dormammu
• Arnim Zola
• Baron Zemo
These cats have had major stories thru-out the history of Marvel and they barely had any impact so far in the MCU.
If I was running shit, after the Multi-Verse plot is finished with Avengers:Kang Dynasty, flip the direction of future projects with the MCU and have the storylines from the Villains point of view instead of the heroes.
Marvel had a short lived series focused on the villains back in the 70s.
FUCK!!!
There I go again with a great idea.
Marvel writers are spies on this forum and gonna steal my idea.
I gotta keep shit to myself!
Haha!!!
You do realize you just said it's not superhero fatigue all the while describing what superhero fatigue is, right? Whenever it's time for a "break," that means fatigue has set in.
Somewhat true.
Hollywood has been doing Rom-Com films consistently since the 1930s and they ain’t quitting. Women keep watching them in all generations.
The Hallmark channel puts out a zillion new Christmas movies every season and Women are glued to the TV every year. My wife is one of them.
TLC Channel has been pumping out reality shows now longer than Disney with the MCU. They can’t produce them dumb series fast enough.
Like I stated, they have to go a different direction from what they are doing.
Their major problem is that the formula that made them different and groundbreaking is the cause of the fatigue. They were the first to really run with the "cinematic universe" idea and it paid off in dividends.
The problem is they ran too far with it and created streaming tie-in shows that are relevant to the films. That will essentially alienate any more casual fans who may just want to watch a superhero flick without needing to watch several seasons of an exclusive streaming show.
You trolling, right??
The issue is Superhero fatigue. Too much Superhero.
Marvel/DC has been focused on the heroes in all the projects and keep the villains as supporting characters.
Marvel has had…
• Red Skull
• Ultron
• Grandmaster
• The Collector
• Ronan the Accuser
• Dormammu
• Arnim Zola
• Baron Zemo
These cats have had major stories thru-out the history of Marvel and they barely had any impact so far in the MCU.
If I was running shit, after the Multi-Verse plot is finished with Avengers:Kang Dynasty, flip the direction of future projects with the MCU and have the storylines from the Villains point of view instead of the heroes.
Marvel had a short lived series focused on the villains back in the 70s.
FUCK!!!
There I go again with a great idea.
Marvel writers are spies on this forum and gonna steal my idea.
I gotta keep shit to myself!
Haha!!!
Comic post of the day.
A hero is only as good as his nemesis
I kinda push back on that.
I agree they OVER DID IT. Spread themselves too thin in every sense talent, writers directors effects etc. and worse no show runners.
However... it COULD and SHOULD have worked. Less projects no covid effect house situation settled no impending strike Feige still in charge....
Kaboom.
But that didn't happen they messed up royal and good leadership says let's STOP RESET PLAN SLOWLY.
I think they will be fine.
To me it's what happens to WB DC & Gunn that is REALLY INTERESTING.
Cause I saw Aquaman yesterday.
That looked like a STUDIO hatchet job
But I ain't giving Wan a pass like everyone else.
Unless they giving EVERYBODY the sane pass.
Another thing they did wrong was they pulled out their big guns too early. If would've been better if the infiity began at phase 3 and civil war happened close to the end of phase 4 after the fox aquisition so that they'd have all the characters
To be clear, you believe COVID hurt or helped them?
You still believe Gunn has anymore tricks up his sleeve? He seems to have passed his prime already imo.
Both
Disney + made millions off streaming during quarantine.
But the actual movies suffered
Remember movie theatres were in shambles projects released on the app etc etc
Insane bigger Budgets due to covid protocol reshoots special effects locations promotion and just TIME hurt very intricate detailed long term plans
And Iger leaving that fool I'm charge.
Taking away Feige power.
I kinda agree with Civil War but to me Infinity happened at the right time. They had all of these movies with the stones serving as mcguffins and having Thanos hanging in the background that by 2018 it was time for them to tie it all together and conclude it.
Strike while the iron's hot and it was good that it happened before the pandemic even though that wasn't by design since they couldn't know that was going to happen two years down the line.
Who would you replace Feige with, Avi Arad?
My bad. I misread you. I thought you wanted Iger to take away Feige's power.
As for Arad, he made my childhood dreams come true in a way the MCU never could primarily because I was still a child when Arad called the shots.
Iger came back and had to clean house and gave Feige BACK his authority
As it should be.
I will always have love for Ari he the best intentions and tried damn hard. Feige was a kid on the Iron Man set. I respect all those dudes.
But right now Iger BETTER pick the BEST successor possible.
If I'm Gunn?
As soon as Iger leaves? I'm trying to bring Feige to WB
If it still exists.
I thought about it again and yeah keep the infinity saga in the same place but I would still move civil war to the end of phase 4 or phase 5 and the beauty of it is now they have Disney Plus shows and sthe story can spin off on these shows along with having all the characters. Here's my idea for how things could've moved forward after the avengers. At the end of the first movie when they are escorting Loki to prison he gloats that it isn't over you may have won the day but this is just a cog in the machine or whatever and looks in captain America's direction and says they your country has been compromised all while you slept in the ice.
What he means by this is like in winter soldier hydra has sleeper agents but not only in shield but also in all agencies and also law enforcement so now there's hydra race soldiers masquerading as cops.but the kicker is red skull is still alive and has been living in disguise as a u.s. senator that is running for president. He eventually wins and starts a police state in the u.s. and has his sights on the world. He's also developed weapons from the tesseract and had spies in stark industries so now he has hydra agents in battlesuits like ironman (mandroids) and vehicles similar to what was shown in the avengers earth s mightiest heroes. Also skull would have other super villians working for him like the hydra dreadnaught, an MCU version of the masters of evil etc the real taskmaster. This would take place in the avengers 2new world order instead of age of Ultron and of course this would happen after winter soldier.
Forgot to mention after Thor dark world instead of disguising himself as Odin Loki returns to earth and disguises himself as speaker of the house to use his sorcery to sway the minds of u.s. Congress and the majority of the American voters to vote red skull in. Better yet this will be the third captain america movie and just like war this would be an avengers team up.
Avengers 2 will still be Ultron but this time it's rise of Ultron instead of age of Ultron and this he doesn't die for certain and we know for sure he uploaded himself somewhere else through a post credit scene and that can be saved for age of Ultron I'm ohase 5 instead of the kang dynasty.
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