Lebron James.................

[Spectrum]

same person that beat him in the finals last year, same person who beat the east in the all star game, same person who just beat him in Utah.

Is this cat serious.. he is talking like this team has won a championship and hasnt lost this season. That shouldnt even be a serious question. This team is very beatable.. when they play their best ball, they are tough to beat but they always give elite teams opportunities.

 

[Spectrum]

And I would have preferred that he take that shot as well. Never mind that the pass he made was spot on. Never mind that Haslem had a great look. .

It is not even about that particular play. It is about deferring a high percentage of the time...especially when he has the hot hand. I dont think he made a bad pass... but i think a better decision would have been forcing the defense to defend him by driving to the basket...he doesnt even allow the refs to give him his superstar calls

 

[HeathCliff]

People want him to take those shots. Its simple as that.

They would be rather see him go 1 for 76 in a quarter than not take that last shout irrespective of the outcome.

And I would have preferred that he take that shot as well. Never mind that the pass he made was spot on. Never mind that Haslem had a great look. Never mind we wouldn't be talking about this if Haslem's shot goes in. The fans want him to take that shot. Dont worry about detractors. They will be negative no matter the outcome.

*Augmented*

 

[curryshotta]

It is not even about that particular play. It is about deferring a high percentage of the time...especially when he has the hot hand. I dont think he made a bad pass... but i think a better decision would have been forcing the defense to defend him by driving to the basket...he doesnt even allow the refs to give him his superstar calls

Riding a hot hand is something you can live with.

As for the Heat in general, the Heat have played excellently against the top squads as long as Spo doesnt get too fancy with his rotations.

He has a propensity to build leads and then watch teams go on runs , wipe out said leads and rest players at key junctions.

 

[Spectrum]

Riding a hot hand is something you can live with.

As for the Heat in general, the Heat have played excellently against the top squads as long as Spo doesnt get too fancy with his rotations.

He has a propensity to build leads and then watch teams go on runs , wipe out said leads and rest players at key junctions.

I worry about these cats late in game... outplaying a team and then letting them steal games late...like they let the Mavs do. offensively and defensively, despite lacking size, this team has crazy talent... but they let teams back in games late and have a tendency to give games away... late in the playoffs, you cant win like that

and yeah..if he would have taken a different 10 footer in the lane, i could have lived with that...considering he was 8-9 and hitting everything... i just want to see him take that shot MORE...not EVERY time and force it...but he is deferring too much

 

[BDR]

If anything it is obvious that LeBron is NOT letting this get to him.

Despite all of the criticism that is coming from people, LeBron continues to play his game and he's playing it better than he's ever played it throughout his career.

Fans these days are so caught up in the low IQ basketball play that they don't understand when a guy makes the right play (like LeBron did at the final possession last night)

Hopefully LeBron continues to play his game and make the plays that are in the best interest of team success opposed to plays like stans and a lot of fans in this thread want to see (15 second isolation plays with fadeaway 25 foot 3s over multiple defenders)

Like Road Rage said, "hero ball" (which loses more than it wins) is what people want to see these days. Hopefully LeBron doesn't fall into the trap.

Stans that want to see that type of ball never played organized basketball in their lives let alone picked up a basketball...

If anything that game along with the allstar game should niggas on notice no lead is safe with bron on the court.

Opponents cant do shit wit this dude no more. He posting niggas up, brining niggas outside, finding teammates open on passes, defense is all world...

Now tell me how it is mofos come to the conclusion Bron got no heart? Last I checked you need a lot of heart to do what he is doing... U need heart to even get on the court and play in front of millions of people every night.

Majority of these assclowns wouldnt even have the heart to take 1 dribble in an nba game

Niggas would be lookin like jeremy lin against the heat.. Shook daddy

 

[2 ONE 3]

Mr. No Clutch....

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[curryshotta]

I worry about these cats late in game... outplaying a team and then letting them steal games late...like they let the Mavs do. offensively and defensively, despite lacking size, this team has crazy talent... but they let teams back in games late and have a tendency to give games away... late in the playoffs, you cant win like that

and yeah..if he would have taken a different 10 footer in the lane, i could have lived with that...considering he was 8-9 and hitting everything... i just want to see him take that shot MORE...not EVERY time and force it...but he is deferring too much

Like I said, I can live with him taking that last shot, win or lose.

Because really after bringing the Heat back from the deficit he did on the rampage that he went on, he "deserves/earned" the right to take that shot

 

[egatsby]

y'all realize Bosh didn't even play right? Haslem wasn't even suppose to win the game. The Heat will win it all this year and it won't even be close

 

[curryshotta]

the Mavs won the series at the free throw line. because Dirk lived there.

The Heat were in the penalty early in every game they lost.

 

[2 ONE 3]

Like I said, I can live with him taking that last shot, win or lose.

Because really after bringing the Heat back from the deficit he did on the rampage that he went on, he "deserves/earned" the right to take that shot

What I get frustrated about is..


How can you completely dominate a whole quarter, bring your team back virtually by yourself...scoring at will...


Yet when it's crunch time you pass that shit



He's notorious for doing this...It's like nigga why even tease us with a strong comeback if you're not gonna man up & shoot the damn ball with everything on the line.​

 

[Spectrum]

Like I said, I can live with him taking that last shot, win or lose.

Because really after bringing the Heat back from the deficit he did on the rampage that he went on, he "deserves/earned" the right to take that shot

exactly

 

[Built4Life]

Stans that want to see that type of ball never played organized basketball in their lives let alone picked up a basketball...

If anything that game along with the allstar game should niggas on notice no lead is safe with bron on the court.

Opponents cant do shit wit this dude no more. He posting niggas up, brining niggas outside, finding teammates open on passes, defense is all world...

Now tell me how it is mofos come to the conclusion Bron got no heart? Last I checked you need a lot of heart to do what he is doing... U need heart to even get on the court and play in front of millions of people every night.

Majority of these assclowns wouldnt even have the heart to take 1 dribble in an nba game

Niggas would be lookin like jeremy lin against the heat.. Shook daddy

As Heat fan, I was kind of shocked that he didn't try to hoist it up even though it would have been a bad call. Passing to Haslem was a no-no because Haslem has been horrible shooting this year but it was a spot on pass that Haslem could have made because it was a rhythm shot. He could have taken one more dribble and not hesitate when he first got the ball. He should have been on attack mode from there considering it was only 4 seconds left in the game. He initially surveyed the defense.

I just don't think Lebron is a selfish player. He seems to be about the team and has faith that his teammates will come through. Also, last second shots are not necessarily high percentage shots. They just have to be taken.

 

[curryshotta]

As Heat fan, I was kind of shocked that he didn't try to hoist it up even though it would have been a bad call. Passing to Haslem was a no-no because Haslem has been horrible shooting this year but it was a spot on pass that Haslem could have made because it was a rhythm shot. He could have taken one more dribble and not hesitate when he first got the ball. He should have been on attack mode from there considering it was only 4 seconds left in the game. He initially surveyed the defense.

I just don't think Lebron is a selfish player. He seems to be about the team and has faith that his teammates will come through. Also, last second shots are not necessarily high percentage shots. They just have to be taken.

basically

 

[Spectrum]

I just don't think Lebron is a selfish player. He seems to be about the team and has faith that his teammates will come through. Also, last second shots are not necessarily high percentage shots. They just have to be taken.

Agreed. Lebron came into the league willing to pass...one of the reasons he is such a great player and can fill the stat line because he does so much... but I think selflessness can be confused with selfishness... I think he is thinking more about himself now and passing to teammates in these situations isnt the true definition of being unselfish... it is more of I am not guilty if I dont take the losing shot....so his selflessness really isnt so..it is selfish... he is actively deferring responsibility to lesser players....

 

[TimRock]

know he aint got it in him to win a title at this point.

does he have to? who needs it more?

Lebron doesnt have it in him either, hence the reason he joined Wade and Bosh. Home court advantage and still couldn't pull it out. Biggest stage of his career and he fails.

He's not championship caliber without Phil.

how many did jordan and pippen win without Phil?

 

[sinsay]

I like Lebron...in fact, there is no player I enjoy watching play more in any sport when he is on. No other player can dominate a game in so many was as he can when he really wants to...he can drop 50 on you, he can dish out 15+ assists, he can get you 10 boards any time he wants, and he can lock down opponents on D from the 1 to 4 when he puts his mind to it.

Because of that, I don't think there has been a player that regularly disappoints me. I remember watching game 5 of the 07 playoffs against the Pistons...when he took over and completely shitted on what most thought was the East's best team that year and his second best player was Fucking Drew Gooden...I remember thinking that I had seen Bird, Magic, Isaih, Jordan, and Kobe, and still thinking that I had never seen anything like it.

So when I see him have a game in the Finals where he gives you 8 fucking points, that is where the disappointment or frustration comes. When you can dominate a game like he can and defers to even a guy like Wade, it's disappointing. When you pass up shots where you have a good look to pass it to a role player who's name isn't Robert Horry, you are going to lose those the vast majority of those games.

 

[RoadRage]

The only problems I saw with the play are two things, the Heat should have had a better shooter in the position of where Haslem was, and/or Haslem should had made one more pass to the open Chalmers.
For those who think Jordan and Kobe would have taken that shot, conviently forgot all the big shots Kerr, Hodges, Paxton, Horrey, Fisher, Ariza and Odom hit for the Lakers in the past.

 

[Spectrum]

The only problems I saw with the play are two things, the Heat should have had a better shooter in the position of where Haslem was,

No doubt about this. I blame but Lebron and coaching...coaching #1 because the play was horrible designed.... you cant depend on a cold player struggling with his shot and a forward from 18 feet when you have your super start shooting 8-9 in the quarter and also have wade on the floor

 

[curryshotta]

The only problems I saw with the play are two things, the Heat should have had a better shooter in the position of where Haslem was, and/or Haslem should had made one more pass to the open Chalmers.
For those who think Jordan and Kobe would have taken that shot, conviently forgot all the big shots Kerr, Hodges, Paxton, Horrey, Fisher, Ariza and Odom hit for the Lakers in the past.

I dont disagree with you here either.

My only point in this dicussion is that even though the pass is not the wrong play, I am comfortable with him taking the last shot, hit or miss

 

[RoadRage]

Yall really have to stop listening to these salty ass CAC's and open your eyes to see whats really going on... The play should have been to Chalmers, who after his defender slid over, committed by leaving his feet, left Rio wide open to the right where he could have easily drove the ball in for a uncontested layup.

 

[Spectrum]

I remember watching game 5 of the 07 playoffs against the Pistons...when he took over and completely shitted on what most thought was the East's best team that year and his second best player was Fucking Drew Gooden...I remember thinking that I had seen Bird, Magic, Isaih, Jordan, and Kobe, and still thinking that I had never seen anything like it.

That is the frustrating part. I am a pistons fan. I KNOW how he can kill you with the game on the line when he WANTS to...that is what frustrates me. Ive sat and watched Jordan kill the pistons LIVE at the Palace and Silverdome and I had never seen us get murdered like Lebron did us? That is why this shit confuses me

 

[Spectrum]

I dont disagree with you here either.

My only point in this dicussion is that even though the pass is not the wrong play, I am comfortable with him taking the last shot, hit or miss

Exactly. X and O he made a good pass to the open player.

 

[curryshotta]

No doubt about this. I blame but Lebron and coaching...coaching #1 because the play was horrible designed.... you cant depend on a cold player struggling with his shot and a forward from 18 feet when you have your super start shooting 8-9 in the quarter and also have wade on the floor

Mike Miller.....James Jones.....Cole, Battier

Yea Spo....

 

[chemist]

Yall really have to stop listening to these salty ass CAC's and open your eyes to see whats really going on... The play should have been to Chalmers, who after his defender slid over, committed by leaving his feet, left Rio wide open to the right where he could have easily drove the ball in for a uncontested layup.

He could have drove to the lane on that play but he didn't want the pressure to either make the shot or hit the free throws to win the game. Lebron has shown that he's doesn't want that pressure so the two-time NBA MVP, best player in the league puts the pressure on Udonis Haslem to hit the game winning shot.

 

[RoadRage]

He could have drove to the lane on that play but he didn't want the pressure to either make the shot or hit the free throws to win the game. Lebron has shown that he's doesn't want that pressure so the two-time NBA MVP, best player in the league puts the pressure on Udonis Haslem to hit the game winning shot.

Last year they didn't call one close foul against LeBron in the closing secs. He got called for two charges while the defender feet were moving and in one play he was knocked to the ground and nothing was called.. Most teams are told to foul if he comes to the hole knowing that there is a good chance that it wont be called.

 

[RoadRage]

Mike Miller.....James Jones.....Cole, Battier

Yea Spo....

They could actually run that same play with Haslem but this time instruct him to pass to Chalmers if his man slides over to him.... All he had to do was make the same pass James made and the Heat would have won.

 

[bigjayler]

I like Lebron...in fact, there is no player I enjoy watching play more in any sport when he is on. No other player can dominate a game in so many was as he can when he really wants to...he can drop 50 on you, he can dish out 15+ assists, he can get you 10 boards any time he wants, and he can lock down opponents on D from the 1 to 4 when he puts his mind to it.

Because of that, I don't think there has been a player that regularly disappoints me. I remember watching game 5 of the 07 playoffs against the Pistons...when he took over and completely shitted on what most thought was the East's best team that year and his second best player was Fucking Drew Gooden...I remember thinking that I had seen Bird, Magic, Isaih, Jordan, and Kobe, and still thinking that I had never seen anything like it.

So when I see him have a game in the Finals where he gives you 8 fucking points, that is where the disappointment or frustration comes. When you can dominate a game like he can and defers to even a guy like Wade, it's disappointing. When you pass up shots where you have a good look to pass it to a role player who's name isn't Robert Horry, you are going to lose those the vast majority of those games.

yep

 

[Spectrum]

I like Lebron...in fact, there is no player I enjoy watching play more in any sport when he is on. No other player can dominate a game in so many was as he can when he really wants to...he can drop 50 on you, he can dish out 15+ assists, he can get you 10 boards any time he wants, and he can lock down opponents on D from the 1 to 4 when he puts his mind to it.

Because of that, I don't think there has been a player that regularly disappoints me. I remember watching game 5 of the 07 playoffs against the Pistons...when he took over and completely shitted on what most thought was the East's best team that year and his second best player was Fucking Drew Gooden...I remember thinking that I had seen Bird, Magic, Isaih, Jordan, and Kobe, and still thinking that I had never seen anything like it.

So when I see him have a game in the Finals where he gives you 8 fucking points, that is where the disappointment or frustration comes. When you can dominate a game like he can and defers to even a guy like Wade, it's disappointing. When you pass up shots where you have a good look to pass it to a role player who's name isn't Robert Horry, you are going to lose those the vast majority of those games.

This needs to be double cosigned

 

[goonie]

Durant bricked about 4 straight shots down the stretch tonight, where is his 10 page thread?

 

[RoadRage]

He could have drove to the lane on that play but he didn't want the pressure to either make the shot or hit the free throws to win the game. Lebron has shown that he's doesn't want that pressure so the two-time NBA MVP, best player in the league puts the pressure on Udonis Haslem to hit the game winning shot.

You realize that Udonis is a professional and he gets paid to hit the open shot, shit 70% on the black top pick up game could hit that shot..
Besides he was in the best position possible, if he felt that the guy girding Charmers was too close he had the option of passing to a wide open Charmers.

 

[massdagod]

Yall really have to stop listening to these salty ass CAC's and open your eyes to see whats really going on... The play should have been to Chalmers, who after his defender slid over, committed by leaving his feet, left Rio wide open to the right where he could have easily drove the ball in for a uncontested layup.

Lebron should've Created for himself.

He should have DEMANDED a play drawn up for himself.

What a hoe.

 

[Artist Monk]

That is the frustrating part. I am a pistons fan. I KNOW how he can kill you with the game on the line when he WANTS to...that is what frustrates me. Ive sat and watched Jordan kill the pistons LIVE at the Palace and Silverdome and I had never seen us get murdered like Lebron did us? That is why this shit confuses me

Just curious, you're not comparing jordan era Pistons to LeBron era Pistons are you???

 

[RoadRage]

Originally Posted by eewwll
That is the frustrating part. I am a pistons fan. I KNOW how he can kill you with the game on the line when he WANTS to...that is what frustrates me. Ive sat and watched Jordan kill the pistons LIVE at the Palace and Silverdome and I had never seen us get murdered like Lebron did us? That is why this shit confuses me

Different philosophy here at Miami than in Cleveland. With the Heat and their three superstars, Spoelstra has emphasize from day one, on the importance of team play and defense. Its his team and his way of coaching and I know it can work, but you have to put the right people in place for it to work... Just look at the past Piston teams, it was team first pass to the open man, and for years they won doing just that.

 

[KingTaharqa]

Durant bricked about 4 straight shots down the stretch tonight, where is his 10 page thread?

Kevin Durant is irrelevant. Nobody cares what he does this season. BGOL still gonna tell you how clutch and humble he is. When he gets shut down at the end of games its of no consequence.