http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2005.html
34-48 in '04-05 good for LAST place in the Pacific.
I almost forgot that the stans were also revisionist historians.
how are you niggas putting yao in the mix over mutumbo?
Look at that team. It was horrible.
I can think of a lot worse teams with second and third best players worse then Odom and Butler... Say, the '07 Cavs that went to the conference finals for one.
Also notice that Kobe shot 43% and averaged over 4 fucking turnovers
Also show me another team where someone averaged 27 while 2 others averaged at least 15 and they lost that many games in the last 10 years lmao ya'll will do anything to hold up Kobe. Admit it. He couldn't be the man just yet. It's cool man, everyone isn't built like Mike and Lebron, it takes time for some... like until u turn 27 lmao
06 and 07 Sonics had Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis averaging over 20 a game and Chris Wilcox averaging around 14 ppg as the third scorer. Those teams won 31 & 35 games.
Scoring averages have absolutely nothing to do with how good a team is.
We all know the West has been a much stronger conference by far since Jordan left.
Its much harder to make the playoffs in the West.
You know this, I know this, we all know this.
06 and 07 Sonics had Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis averaging over 20 a game and Chris Wilcox averaging around 14 ppg as the third scorer. Those teams won 31 & 35 games.
Scoring averages have absolutely nothing to do with how good a team is.
We all know the West has been a much stronger conference by far since Jordan left.
Its much harder to make the playoffs in the West.
You know this, I know this, we all know this.
cranrab thinks different
J Kidd?
KG?
AI?
Kobe?
Damn rab, I know you hate bean but to hate on KG too?
Never finished in Last place cuzz. Stop it.
get off the crack.
JAMES: Congratulations King Kobe on your continue success
KOBE: Thank you ninja.
Later
Why won't this ninja, go away.
at the same time
BIRD: I think he may be the greatest.
JORDAN: I think your right.
It really doesnt Matter. Kobe is the best player this Decade.DRob was on his last leg during the first title and was running off fumes on the second one. Parker/Gino were raw unproven rook or 2nd year players with limited contribution on the 3rd and neither were anywhere near all-star players at that point.
btw- You said 2 and 3. Duncan has 5titles?
So are we talking teams or players? You do know Shaq in his prime was on most of those teams right? Notice the three year dark ages when Shaq left and Kobe waded in mediocrity???
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2005.html
34-48 in '04-05 good for LAST place in the Pacific.
I almost forgot that the stans were also revisionist historians.
The Okafor example proves that Rookie of the Year is not a barometer of future success or dominance, ...
As for the All-NBA selections, T-Mac and Jason Kidd were perennial selections during their prime and didn't make the list.
Status and Performance is related to playoff production.
Lebron?
Who said it was??? It's just the first notch in the belt on the way to multiple All-NBAs and MVPs.
Neither was All-NBA every year of their careers AND Top 5 in MVP voting 4 of their first 6 years. Both only finished in the Top 5 twice over their entire careers. With Kidd the only one finishing higher than 4th once.
That would exclude most NBA players.
You did. You implied that Rookie of the Year was one of Lebron's accomplishments that should place him on an All-Decade team.
And he did not win multiple MVPs during the previous decade.
Lebron finishing in the Top 5 in MVP voting in 4 of his first 6 years proves my point. He was a great player for less than a decade, so why should he be on an All-Decade team.
The list should reflect people who have performed at a high level over the course of the decade, not just the previous 4 years.
Exactly why there are only 10 names on the list, out of the hundreds of players who played in the preceding 10 years.
who's hating? you'd actually put allen iverson on an all DECADE team? tobe's not even in the discussion.
IMO, the only legit candidates you suggest are kevin garnett and jason kidd.
but compare shaquille o'neal and kevin garnett side-by-side and you see shaquille o'neal was other-worldly.
and off topic, but why is it that everyone mercilessly knocks shaquille o'neal for not improving on his FTs, but we never see the same level of contempt for jason kidd never developing a credible outside threat (as earvin johnson did)?
It really doesnt Matter. Kobe is the best player this Decade.
A Dominate Shaq played subpar against the best teams in the west (aka the best teams in the NBA: kings, spurs, blazers) during the 3 peat.. If it wasnt for Kobe OUTPLAYING Shaq in the Western conference playoffs throughout the 3peat, there would be no 3peat.
Period.
anytime u can take smush parker and kwame brown to the playoffs TWICE you are the fucking man.I thought you were an Iverson stan, sorry.
Kobe belongs on there for making the playoffs with what was essentially a WNBA squad.
Twice
Smush Parker
Kwame Brown
Brian Cook
Devean George
Stanislav Medvedenko
Laron Profit
Chris Mihm
The only other legit NBA player on that roster was Lamar, and he's iffy.
Kobe deserves the top spot for this alone, quit hating.