Kobe Bryant and others Dead in Helicopter crash

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Grieve my guy. Don't try to fight or hold that shit in, let it out. Then seek some sort of counseling or therapist to talk to. I forget where the post in here where Kobe said something similar to Gordon Haywood when he got hurt and had to do rehab. Let out all the emotions that need to come out, then seek help to understand why you feel that way to hopefully let you know that you're still relatively young, hell I'm a year younger than you, and have a lot of life to live. The book, movie, soundtrack, stage play and action figures all have to come out. No one can promise anything or it will be easy, but when its time, it's time. Live life to the fullest and make each one count. #Love

I haven't slept. Last night I laid in the bed and could not for the life of me turn my brain off.

I slept at my desk for an hour for coming home with a migraine this morning. I slept for 1/2 hour during around the Horn just now.

This is weird. I'm face to face with my own mortality and I'm like I don't like this shit. I have cried at least 8 times. I'm a year older than Kobe was so that created. Seeing his face and his daughter face, especially seeing her in uniform being the female version of him.

I'm crying right now, shit.
 

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OMG...

Tracey McGrady just said on the Jump that Kobe used to always say i want to be better than Jordan then die young so I'm immortalized.
 

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Every time he's on screen. You gotta give CACs credit for being relentless. They take no days off.

Only about dogs, domestic violence, and to a lesser extent drunk driving. Selective what sins they deem unforgivable. They'll let you continue to play in the NFL though for each of these things as long as you're not a QB.
 

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Was in class watching when the space shuttle blew up in the 80s. Up to yesterday, watching that blow up was the most disbelief I've had for the death of folks I don't know. :smh:

Shit is just weird man.
I saw that and Mrs. Tura Tomlin's class at Miles elementary School off 119th and Miles
 

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Grieve my guy. Don't try to fight or hold that shit in, let it out. Then seek some sort of counseling or therapist to talk to. I forget where the post in here where Kobe said something similar to Gordon Haywood when he got hurt and had to do rehab. Let out all the emotions that need to come out, then seek help to understand why you feel that way to hopefully let you know that you're still relatively young, hell I'm a year younger than you, and have a lot of life to live. The book, movie, soundtrack, stage play and action figures all have to come out. No one can promise anything or it will be easy, but when its time, it's time. Live life to the fullest and make each one count. #Love
Action figures? I could seriously see Zora Jemison as an action figure, except she would look alot Like sister night now that I think about it

I thought so much about a stage play after I get done with the novel. I want an EGOT

Thanks for the love and support brother. That's one of the reasons I can't keep coming here. Hellified connections up in this piece, of just brothers I've known for years but I've never seen
 

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Updated article from TMZ detailing the errors the pilot made that caused this:


COPTER PILOT MISJUDGED TERRAIN... Didn't Slow Down, Pilots Say


The pilot of the helicopter carrying Kobe Bryant, his daughter and 6 other passengers got in big trouble with fog -- they seemed to abort the trip and tried returning home, barely clearing one mountain range, but never slowed down ... this according to the flight tracker and several experienced helicopter pilots in the L.A. area.
As we reported, the pilot had to circle near the Downtown L.A. area -- near the L.A. Zoo -- for 15 minutes because of bad weather ahead. As we reported ... the LAPD had grounded its helicopter fleet because of fog at around the same time Kobe's helicopter took off.


The pilot was following a visual flight plan and was cleared by the tower to proceed north, toward Thousand Oaks where Kobe was taking his daughter for a basketball game. When he got to the Calabasas area, the fog became blinding.

As we reported, the pilot was way too low -- at 1,250 feet. The pilots we spoke with say it's clear based on the abrupt change on the flight tracker ... the pilot panicked and quickly ascended to 2,000 feet. We're told he cleared a mountain range by 100 feet, and the pilots we spoke with say he was so low he almost certainly saw the tops of the mountain.

The pilots we spoke with -- all of whom have extensive experience -- say based on the flight tracker and the accident scene, they believe the pilot felt he had cleared all of the mountains and was proceeding to head back when he hit another mountain. The pilot clearly did not know there were mountains ahead because he actually descended from 2,000 feet to 1,700 feet .. presumably to go under the fog.

Even more baffling, we've been told the pilot was extremely experienced flying in that area -- and was even a flight instructor. One seasoned helicopter pilot told TMZ, he could not understand why Kobe's pilot would have maintained a speed of 161 knots in such dense fog. One of the benefits of a helicopter is you can go much slower -- even 15 mph -- to gingerly avoid terrain if you're uncertain.
Our sources say the chopper was sophisticated and had an altitude warning signal to pull up, but it was too late. As we said, he was doing 161 knots and didn't slow down. The helicopter hit the mountain at that speed.

Several of the pilots we spoke with say the pilot should have gone up to clear the fog, rather than down. To that end, we're told the pilot could have slowed down to almost a stop as he turned, but didn't.
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The Kobe I Knew Became a Champion for Others
The Lakers legend was fearless, driven, and excellent.
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My first real interaction with Kobe Bryant started over a disagreement. The legendary Los Angeles Lakers shooting guard had made some dismissive comments in 2014 about the case of Trayvon Martin, the African American teenager who had been shot to death in Florida by the neighborhood-watch volunteer George Zimmerman two years before.

Martin’s death and Zimmerman’s subsequent acquittal on second-degree murder charges incensed many black athletes—but not Bryant, who told The New Yorker, “If we’ve progressed as a society, then you don’t jump to somebody's defense just because they're African-American.” I was working at ESPN at the time, and criticized Bryant on camera as tone-deaf, among other things.
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About 10 minutes or so later, while I was still on air, I received a direct message from Bryant on Twitter. He told me to call him as soon as the show was over because he thought my comments were off base. That was Kobe. He was never afraid to speak up, and certainly not afraid to defend his opinions, however unpopular.
So I called him on my way home, assuming it would be a quick discussion. Instead, we battled back and forth for an hour. He explained to me that he was speaking from the experience of someone who had been on trial for sexual assault and, in his mind, had been wrongfully accused. (The criminal case against him had been dismissed; Bryant reportedly reached a civil settlement with his accuser.) I told him that he couldn’t speak only from his own experience. He had to understand how horrible the situation was for Trayvon Martin’s parents, Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin. Their son had gone to the store for snacks, and never came home.

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Bryant was open to changing his mind. Later, he met with Martin’s family and apologized. He even spoke at a rally for Martin that occurred a year after Zimmerman had been acquitted of his murder.
Bryant and I interacted several other times over the years, but our discussion about Martin’s case is the one I’ll remember most fondly. Like so many people, I am devastated that Kobe, his 13-year-old daughter Gianna, and seven others were killed in a helicopter crash in Calabasas, California. I am in mourning. Kobe felt like a member of my family. For me and many others, he was the embodiment of what we thought we could be—fearless, driven, and excellent.
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My admiration for Bryant as a player ran deep. I once wrote that I thought he was a better player than Michael Jordan. Yes, I said that. Even if you thought I was crazy, you would be hard-pressed to find any basketball fan that didn’t recognize him as one of the greatest artists who has ever played in the NBA. He was a scoring magician. Every time he took the floor, there always was this expectation that he was going to do something that would leave your mind reeling. And he always delivered.

Let’s allow his NBA résumé to sink in: He was a lock to make the NBA’s Hall of Fame this year. He was an 18-time NBA all-star with five NBA championships and two Olympic gold medals. He was a regular-season MVP and a two-time NBA Finals MVP. When he scored a record 81 points in a game—his personal best—I was rooting for him to tie or break Wilt Chamberlain’s record of 100. In 2003, he put together one of the greatest scoring months of all time. In February, he scored 40 points or more in nine consecutive games, which tied Michael Jordan for the fourth-longest such scoring streak in NBA history. In March 2007, he scored 50 points or more in four straight games.

But as outstanding as Bryant was as a player, his growth in retirement was more impressive, in a way. Once the epitome of precocious arrogance, he evolved into being a true champion for others. Few players of his stature embraced and supported the WNBA the way he did—which no doubt was partially related to the fact that his daughter Gianna was beginning to look like a mini-Kobe on the basketball court. In fact, Bryant recently said that he felt like several WNBA superstars could play in the NBA right now.

He used those criticisms he faced regarding Trayvon Martin as an opportunity to learn. He was very vocal about the shooting death of another unarmed teenager, Michael Brown, who was killed by the St. Louis police officer Darren Wilson. When a grand jury declined to indict Wilson, Bryant reacted bitterly, tweeting, “The system enables young black men to be killed behind the mask of law.”
It was comforting and inspiring to know that Bryant was embracing being an elder statesman—especially because there had been a time when fans and fellow players thought he was far too competitive, and some might even say too selfish, to ever accept being that NBA uncle who willingly handed out advice to the next generation of stars.


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When I interviewed Bryant for the BET Awards not long before he embarked on his final NBA season, I joked with him that he was going to be awful at retirement. He would struggle, I felt sure, to find anything that gave him even a tenth of the fulfillment that basketball did. Bryant promised he wouldn’t be that way, and said that he was drawn to storytelling. Inevitably, he approached retirement like a competition. He knew that dopes like me would assume he would be unhappy once he retired, and he decided to show us that he could immerse himself in other things.

He became the first champion professional athlete to win an Oscar—and the first black person to win one for best animated short film—after writing and narrating Dear Basketball, a tribute to the game he loved. After he won the Oscar, Bryant told reporters that it was better than winning an NBA title.

“I swear,” he said, “growing up as a kid, I dreamt of winning championships and worked really hard. But then to have something like this come out of left field—I heard a lot of people tell me, ‘What are you going to do when you retire?’ I want to be a writer and a storyteller. I got a lot of ‘That’s cute.’ I got that a lot. To be here right now and have a sense of validation, this is crazy.”

I was one of the people who doubted him. That’s why it’s so hard to believe he’s gone. Kobe defied and banished every single doubt anyone ever had of him, and he plowed through obstacles as if they were invisible. That there was something he couldn’t beat—the unpredictability of life—is something I will never fully comprehend.

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I'm trying to do some quick math.....
If I'm driving down the highway with cruise control on at roughly 80mph, I can go a mile a minute
So this dude was flying at least twice that speed in the chopper
Sooooo basically flying 1 mile in only 30 seconds
So they said visibility was only a quarter of a mile
Sooooo that means that once he saw the big ass mountain.....he only had like 7-8 seconds to climb or dive or take evasive maneuvers to avoid hitting it ???
Anyone else getting roughly these same numbers ???

:oops::oops::oops:
 

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Kobe Bryant apparently was mending rift with dad Joe ‘Jellybean’ Bryant before death
By Kate Sheehy
January 27, 2020 | 2:40pm

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Kobe Bryant (right) and his father, Joe "Jellybean'' Bryant
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Kobe Bryant and his dad appeared to be on the way to mending their years-old rift when he was tragically killed, a former coach said Monday.
Wayne Slappy, one of the NBA legend’s ex-coaches and a good friend of his dad, Joe “Jellybean” Bryant, told the Daily Mail that he’d seen Kobe recently hug his father at a basketball camp in California.
“I just remember being with him up at his camp in Santa Barbara and seeing him hug his dad. You know how they loved each other from how they looked at each other, how they smiled,” Slappy said of the two men.
Kobe publicly fell out with his parents, Joe and Pam Bryant, in 2013 when they tried to peddle some of his memorabilia, including two high school uniforms and a pair of Los Angeles Lakers championship rings from 2000, without his knowledge.
Kobe told ESPN in 2016, “Our relationship is s–t. I say, ‘I’m going to buy you a very nice home,’ and the response is, ‘That’s not good enough?’ Then you’re selling my s–t?”
Kobe also laid into his two sisters at the time, calling them “very smart, college-educated” women but adding that they had become too financially reliant on him.
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Slappy told the Mail that while it appeared Kobe was ready to seriously mend fences with his loved ones, tragically, his death in Sunday’s helicopter crash brought a full reconciliation to a halt. Kobe’s 13-year-old daughter, Gianna, also was killed, as were seven others.
“Everybody’s family has issues, disagreements here and there. The healing comes, but this healing is going to be hard because he’s not here,” the former coach said of Kobe.
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Slappy, 67, added — his voice breaking — that the 41-year-old basketball great “was starting to look so much more like [his dad] as he was getting older.”
Joe Bryant played in the NBA himself and later coached in the WNBA.
Slappy added that the Bryant family has to be reeling from its loss.
“Can you imagine a black hole? It’s empty, how do you fill it? They’re a close-knit family. He was 41 years old, and then his daughter dies in an accident with him, too. His family are going to miss him more than you can begin to imagine,” Slappy said.
Slappy said he learned of Kobe’s death in a text message Sunday and “I just sat in the parking lot at Costco crying for an hour.”
 

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185 mph.
 

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I saw that and Mrs. Tura Tomlin's class at Miles elementary School off 119th and Miles

Saw it live too; remember someone asked “what happened?” they hurried up and turned the TV off and wheel the TV cart out the room (80s kids remember this); I was in 1st grade.

This news of Kobe’s death is a “where were you” moment that reminds me of that day and 9/11, to name a few.
 
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