Killed by the Cops

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  1. muckraker10021

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    Black & Hispanic Men- MURDERED by the NEW YORK POLICE- "Dred Scott" Lives

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    The Supreme Court DRED SCOTT decision of 1857 viewed all blacks as "beings of an inferior order, and altogether unfit to associate with the white race, either in social or political relations, and so far inferior that they had no rights which the white man was bound to respect."


    Although the "Dred Scott" decision was erased by the 13th and 14th amendments to the U.S. constitution, legalized white supremacy continued via "Jim Crow" laws until 1965. Todays 21st century police departments, with the consent of white legislators apply "Dred Scott" rules when policing Black & Brown communities







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    Fatal Police Encounters in New York City





    Compiled by EBA HAMID and BENJAMIN MUELLER DEC. 3, 2014

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/nyregion/fatal-police-encounters-in-new-york-city.html


    Some of the most notable deaths since 1990 involving New York Police Department officers. Most did not lead to criminal charges; even fewer resulted in convictions. Related Article









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    Jose (Kiko) Garcia


    July 3, 1992


    During a struggle with police officers in the lobby of an apartment building, Mr. Garcia, a 23-year-old Dominican immigrant who the police said was carrying a revolver, was shot twice by Officer Michael O’Keefe.

    What happened: Later that year, a grand jury cleared Officer O’Keefe, supporting the officer’s assertion that Mr. Garcia reached for a gun before he was shot.




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    Ernest Sayon


    April 29, 1994


    Mr. Sayon, 22, was standing outside a Staten Island housing complex when police officers on an anti-drug patrol tried to arrest him. Mr. Sayon suffocated because of pressure on his back, chest and neck while he was handcuffed on the ground.

    What happened: A grand jury declined to file criminal charges against any of the three police officers involved, apparently concluding that the officers had used reasonable force in subduing Mr. Sayon.




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    Nicholas Heyward Jr.


    Sept. 27, 1994


    Nicholas, 13, was playing cops and robbers with friends in a Gowanus Houses building stairwell when Officer Brian George, mistaking the teenager’s toy rifle for a real gun, shot him to death.

    What happened: The Brooklyn district attorney decided not to present the case to a grand jury, saying the real culprit was an authentic-looking toy gun.




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    Anthony Baez


    Dec. 22, 1994


    Mr. Baez, 29, a security guard, was playing football outside his mother’s Bronx home when a stray toss landed on a police car. Mr. Baez died after an officer applied a chokehold while trying to arrest him.

    What happened: Francis X. Livoti, who had been dismissed by the force for using an illegal chokehold, was convicted on federal civil rights charges and sentenced to seven and a half years in prison, two years after he won acquittal in a state trial.




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    Amadou Diallo


    Feb. 4, 1999


    Mr. Diallo, a 22-year-old immigrant from Guinea, was killed by four officers who fired 41 times in the vestibule of his apartment building in the Bronx. They said he seemed to have a gun, but he was unarmed.

    What happened: In February 2000, after a tense and racially charged trial, all four officers, who were white, were acquitted of second-degree murder and other charges, fueling protests.

    The city agreed to pay the family $3 million.




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    Patrick Dorismond


    March 16, 2000


    Mr. Dorismond, 26, an unarmed black security guard, was shot dead by an undercover narcotics detective in a brawl in front of a bar in Midtown Manhattan, after Mr. Dorismond became offended when the detective asked him if he had any crack cocaine.

    What happened: By late July, a grand jury declined to file criminal charges against the detective, Anthony Vasquez, concluding that the shooting of Mr. Dorismond was not intentional.

    The city agreed to pay $2.25 million to his family.




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    Ousmane Zongo


    May 23, 2003


    Mr. Zongo, 43, an art restorer, was shot and killed by a police officer during a raid at a Chelsea warehouse that the police believed was the base of a CD counterfeiting operation.

    What happened: In 2005, Officer Bryan A. Conroy was convicted at the second of two trials and sentenced to probation. The judge placed the blame for the killing primarily on the poor training and supervision by the Police Department.

    The city agreed to pay the family $3 million.




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    Timothy Stansbury Jr.


    Jan. 24, 2004


    Mr. Stansbury, 19, a high school student, was about to take a rooftop shortcut to a party when he was fatally shot by Officer Richard S. Neri Jr., who was patrolling the roof.

    What happened: A grand jury decided not to indict Officer Neri. In December 2006, he was suspended without pay for 30 days, permanently stripped of his gun, and reassigned to a property clerk’s office.

    The city agreed to pay the Stansbury family $2 million.




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    Sean Bell


    Nov. 25, 2006


    Five detectives fired 50 times into a car occupied by Mr. Bell, 23, and two others after a confrontation outside a Queens club on Mr. Bell’s wedding day. He was killed.

    What happened: After a heated seven-week nonjury trial in 2008, the judge found Detectives Gescard F. Isnora, Michael Oliver and Marc Cooper not guilty of all charges, which included manslaughter and assault.

    In 2012, Detective Isnora was fired, and Detectives Cooper and Oliver, along with a supervisor, were forced to resign.




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    Ramarley Graham


    Feb. 2, 2012


    Mr. Graham, 18, was shot and killed by Richard Haste, a police officer, in the bathroom of his Bronx apartment after being pursued into his home by a team of officers from a plainclothes street narcotics unit. Mr. Graham was unarmed.

    What happened: A grand jury voted to indict Officer Haste on charges of first- and second-degree manslaughter, but a judge dismissed the indictment a year later. Prosecutors sought a new indictment. In August 2013, a grand jury decided not to bring charges in the case.




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    Eric Garner


    July 17, 2014


    Mr. Garner, 43, died after Officer Daniel Pantaleo restrained him using a chokehold, a maneuver that was banned by the New York Police Department more than 20 years ago. The officers were trying to arrest Mr. Garner, whose death was attributed in part to the chokehold, on charges of illegally selling cigarettes.

    What happened: A grand jury, impaneled in September by the Staten Island district attorney, voted not to bring criminal charges against Officer Pantaleo.




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    Akai Gurley


    Nov. 20, 2014


    Mr. Gurley, 28, was entering the stairwell of a Brooklyn housing project with his girlfriend when Officer Peter Liang, standing 14 steps above him, shot Mr. Gurley in the chest. The police described the fatal shooting of Mr. Gurley, who was unarmed, as an accident.

    What happened: The episode is the subject of investigations by the Police Department and the Brooklyn district attorney.










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    The Perfect-Victim Pitfall

    Michael Brown, and Now Eric Garner



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    by Charles M. Blow | December 3, 2014 | http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/opinion/charles-blow-first-michael-brown-now-eric-garner.html



    At some point between the moment a Missouri grand jury refused to indict a police officer who had shot and killed Michael Brown on a Ferguson street and the moment a New York grand jury refused to indict a police officer who choked and killed Eric Garner on a Staten Island sidewalk — on video, as he struggled to utter the words, “I can’t breathe!” — a counternarrative to this nation’s calls for change has taken shape.

    This narrative paints the police as under siege and unfairly maligned while it admonishes — and, in some cases, excoriates — those demanding changes in the wake of the Ferguson shooting. (Those calling for change now include the president of the United States and the United States attorney general, I might add.)

    The argument is that this is not a perfect case, because Brown — and, one would assume, now Garner — isn’t a perfect victim and the protesters haven’t all been perfectly civil, so therefore any movement to counter black oppression that flows from the case is inherently flawed. But this is ridiculous and reductive, because it fails to acknowledge that the whole system is imperfect and rife with flaws. We don’t need to identify angels and demons to understand that inequity is hell.

    The Mike-or-Eric-as-faces-of-black-oppression arguments swing too wide, and they miss. So does the protesters-as-movement-killers argument.

    The responses so far have only partly been specific to a particular case. Much of it is about something larger and more general: racial inequality and criminal justice. People want to be assured of equal application of justice and equal — and appropriate — use of police force, and to know that all lives are equally valued.

    The data suggests that, in the nation as a whole, that isn’t so. Racial profiling is real. Disparate treatment of black and brown men by police officers is real. Grotesquely disproportionate numbers of killings of black men by the police are real.

    No one denies that police officers have hard jobs, but they volunteer to enter that line of work. There is no draft. So these disparities cannot go unaddressed and uncorrected. To be held in high esteem you must also be held to a higher standard.

    And no one denies that high-crime neighborhoods disproportionately overlap with minority neighborhoods. But the intersections don’t stop there. Concentrated poverty plays a consequential role. So does the school-to-prison pipeline. So do the scars of historical oppression. In fact, these and other factors intersect to such a degree that trying to separate any one — most often, the racial one — from the rest is bound to render a flimsy argument based on the fallacy of discrete factors.

    Yet people continue to make such arguments, which can usually be distilled to some variation of this: Black dysfunction is mostly or even solely the result of black pathology. This argument is racist at its core because it rests too heavily on choice and too lightly on context. If you scratch it, what oozes out reeks of race-informed cultural decay or even genetic deficiency and predisposition, as if America is not the progenitor — the great-grandmother — of African-American violence.
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    And yes, racist is the word that we must use. Racism doesn’t require the presence of malice, only the presence of bias and ignorance, willful or otherwise. It doesn’t even require more than one race. There are plenty of members of aggrieved groups who are part of the self-flagellation industrial complex. They make a name (and a profit) saying inflammatory things about their own groups, things that are full of sting but lack context, things that others will say only behind tightly shut doors. These are often people who’ve “made it” and look down their noses with be-more-like-me disdain at those who haven’t, as if success were merely a result of a collection of choices and not also of a confluence of circumstances.

    Today, too many people are gun-shy about using the word racism, lest they themselves be called race-baiters. So we are witnessing an assault on the concept of racism, an attempt to erase legitimate discussion and grievance by degrading the language: Eliminate the word and you elude the charge.

    By endlessly claiming that the word is overused as an attack, the overuse, through rhetorical sleight of hand, is amplified in the dismissal. The word is snatched from its serious scientific and sociological context and redefined simply as a weapon of argumentation, the hand grenade you toss under the table to blow things up and halt the conversation when things get too “honest” or “uncomfortable.”

    But people will not fall for that chicanery. The language will survive. The concept will not be corrupted. Racism is a real thing, not because the “racial grievance industry” refuses to release it, but because society has failed to eradicate it.

    Racism is interpersonal and structural; it is current and historical; it is explicit and implicit; it is articulated and silent.

    Biases are pervasive, but can also be spectral: moving in and out of consideration with little or no notice, without leaving a trace, even without our own awareness. Sometimes the only way to see bias is in the aggregate, to stop staring so hard at a data point and step back so that you can see the data set. Only then can you detect the trails in the dust. Only then can the data do battle with denial.

    I would love to live in a world where that wasn’t the case. Even more, I would love my children to inherit a world where that wasn’t the case, where the margin for error for them was the same as the margin for error for everyone else’s children, where I could rest assured that police treatment would be unbiased. But I don’t. Reality doesn’t bend under the weight of wishes. Truth doesn’t grow dim because we squint.

    We must acknowledge — with eyes and minds wide open — the world as it is if we want to change it.

    The activism that followed Ferguson and that is likely to be intensified by what happened in New York isn’t about making a martyr of “Big Mike” or “Big E” as much as it is about making the most of a moment, counternarratives notwithstanding.

    In this most trying of moments, black men, supported by the people who understand their plight and feel their pain, are saying to the police culture of America, “We can’t breathe!”


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  2. QueEx

    QueEx Well-Known Member Super Moderator


    Killed by the Cops​


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    Before Michael Brown and John Crawford III and Eric Garner and Aiyana Stanley Jones and Akai Gurley there was Oscar Grant. The transit police killing of the 22-year-old at Oakland’s Fruitvale Station on New Year’s Day in 2009 sparked national outrage when video of it went viral. Finally, there was recent proof that black men face an outsize risk of death at the hands of law enforcement. For killing Grant, former BART police officer Johannes Mehserle was convicted for involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to two years in prison. He only served 11 months.

    While covering the trial, my colleague Julianne Hing wondered how best to pursue justice for black victims of police killings. “Criminal prosecutions are a necessary salve for families who want personal accountability for their deepest losses and courts remain the most public venue to demand justice for police officers’ violent behavior,” she wrote. “But for many organizers and academics who work on police brutality issues, they are not the most effective. Prosecutions so often end in acquittal, for one—as the painful verdicts for the cops charged with attacking Amadou Diallo, Sean Bell, Abner Louima and Rodney King all illustrate this.”

    ProPublica analyzed the FBI’s data from 2010—the year of Mehserle was convicted—through 2012 and found that young black men are 21 times more likely than their white peers to to be killed by police.

    Yet it’s extremely rare for officers to face indictments, much less receive lengthy prison sentences.In California, for example, a 2013 analysis of on-duty officer-involved shootings by The Center for Investigative Reporting found that since 2005, only three officers — including Mehserle — have been prosecuted.

    What follows is a far-from-exhaustive, intensely human look at how the data bears out. The guiding question: Can law enforcement be held accountable in a justice system that’s set up to support their actions?

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  3. muckraker10021

    muckraker10021 Superstar ***** BGOL Investor

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    The Narrative Must Not Change While
    Police Keep Killing Innocent Black Men


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    by Egberto Willies | December 7, 2014 |
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...while-police-keep-killing-innocent-black-men#


    Many are attempting to change the subject, and the orchestration of a narrative change is in full vogue. It started from the beginning. There was no way the powers-that-be would allow Michael Brown's death to define a movement against a systemic problem in policing that views non-whiteness as a card to deny a suspect the benefit of the doubt.

    In a country polarized by two political parties supposedly on different ends of socio-economic justice, reaction to police officer Darren Wilson’s execution of teenager Michael Brown was disappointing on many counts.

    Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon is a Democrat, yet he came out in full-force military mode against the aggrieved in Ferguson, Missouri. St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch is a Democrat, yet he went into that grand jury room and coerced a non-indictment by dismissing the testimony of those who witnessed the killing of Michael Brown. He went out of his way to give Officer Darren Wilson presence, reliability, and trustworthiness, even as the officer's story was incredulous.
    <br>Five members of the St. Louis Rams came out with their hands up at a recent game to show solidarity with the community grieving over the continued attack on black men by some in law enforcement. The St. Louis Police Officers Association soon after released a statement condemning the football players. Ex-Democratic Rep. Jeff Roorda, business manager of the police association, decided to display an uncanny false sense of being aggrieved. KMOX reported it this way:<br />

    <blockquote>The association says the five players who stood with their hands raised before Sunday&rsquo;s game should be disciplined and the NFL should publicly apologize.
    <br>Business manager of the union Jeff Roorda says he was personally offended, and soon found out he wasn&rsquo;t alone.
    <br>&ldquo;As soon as this happened yesterday, my phone was blowing up with calls from our members,&rdquo; he says. &ldquo;Yesterday evening, I was getting calls from friends in law enforcement from across the country.&rdquo;
    <br>On Monday afternoon Roorda met with Rams&rsquo; management to voice his concerns.
    <br>&ldquo;This &lsquo;Hands Up, Don&rsquo;t Shoot&rsquo; gesture implies that Officer Wilson gunned down a young man in cold blood who was attempting to peacefully surrender, and that&rsquo;s just not…not what we know now,&rdquo; Roorda explained to KMOX&rsquo;s Mark Reardon.
    <br>Earlier Monday, Roorda told KMOX hosts John Hancock and Michael Kelley the Rams receivers who raised their hands at least owe his members an explanation, if not an apology for their actions.
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    Last Sunday, right-wing conservative Rich Lowry went on Meet the Press with Chuck Todd and said the following:<br />
    <blockquote>What I really object to is you can discuss all these problems, but let&rsquo;s not pretend that this particular incident was something it wasn't. If you look at the most credible evidence, the lessons are really basic. Don't rob a convenience store. Don't fight a policeman when he stops you and try to take his gun. And when he yells at you to stop with his gun drawn, just stop, and none of this would&rsquo;ve happened.</blockquote>
    Rudy Giuliani appeared on several networks, including MSNBC, with his racist attack aimed at dehumanizing Michael Brown specifically and black people in general. He used statistics about black-on-black crime that were easily dispelled by Matthew Yglesias' piece titled &quot;White-on-white murder in America is out of control&quot; when full context is applied.
    <br>The narrative is rapidly changing. It went from the officer gunning down an unarmed teenager to an officer having to defend himself from a large black charging demon by killing, exterminating the threat. Not lost to those who know the truth is that the shooting and killing of black men by cops continued even as the narrative changed.
    <br>The same false narrative was applied in the case of the officer shooting Levar Jones in South Carolina as he tried to get his wallet. Same as in the case when New York City police choked Eric Garner to death. Same as the case when Ezell Ford was gunned down by police in South Los Angeles. Same as the case when John Crawford III was gunned down by cops as he spoke on the phone holding a BB gun as he shopped in a Walmart. Same as the case when 12-year-old Tamir Rice was gunned down in Cleveland in less than three seconds for playing with a pellet gun in a park just last week. Same as the cases that take place hundreds of times yearly.
    <br>We should all remember that political parties have not had the back of the aggrieved except for political gain. To many, the police serve as but a heavy arm to keep some in their places, even as they are needed for protection.
    <br>What does all of this mean? It means it is time for American political and socio-economic activists to be completely engaged. The Eric Garner and the past Rodney King non-indictments prove that cameras and videos are not enough. The cancer within the police departments are but the metastasis of the cancer within society. It is that societal cancer that must be eradicated. Anything short of that is unsustainable.
    <br>It is important that the aggrieved and their allies enforce the dream of America. It is up to activists to not let time pass that serves as a release pressure valve, lest nothing changes. It is time to stay firm and demand that police act like police and politicians serve us all by ensuring all of law enforcement treat us all equally well.


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  4. RepostKing

    RepostKing Back up Modrator FD

    good post
     
  5. thoughtone

    thoughtone no donaré FD

    Irony of ironies. The spot where Micheal Brown was murdered is 3 miles from Dred Scott's grave. Literally down the street!
     
  6. COINTELPRO

    COINTELPRO Well-Known Member BGOL Investor

    We need to get away from city hired and ran police. We need to run it out of the state, where it would be cheaper. If you murder somebody, the city investigates and the state houses you in their prison!

    It would definitely smooth out the money issues and decrease the need to make money off of fines.

    There are some trying to create an all white town. Imagine pulling off and getting something to eat! Police can be rotated around the state, rather than camping out and becoming corrupt.



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  8. muckraker10021

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  9. QueEx

    QueEx Well-Known Member Super Moderator

    Martin Luther King Jr.
    on Police Brutality

    The civil rights activist and Nobel laureate on the excessive
    force used by law enforcement against African Americans


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  10. QueEx

    QueEx Well-Known Member Super Moderator

    Re: Black & Hispanic Men- MURDERED by the NEW YORK POLICE- "Dred Scott" Lives





    NYPD Cop Indicted in Stairwell-Shooting Death of Akai Gurley
    Officer Peter Liang will face unspecified criminal charges in the November death of the 28-year-old.


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    Rookie New York City cop Peter Liang will face criminal charges for his part in the November shooting death of 28-year-old Akai Gurley, NY1 reports.


    Last year Gurley was shot in the stairwell of a Brooklyn, N.Y., apartment building. At that time, the New York City Police Department called the shooting an “accident.” Liang had only been on the force for a little over a year.


    NY1 notes that investigators have said that Liang was holding his weapon in the same hand he was using to open a door, causing the firearm to discharge and, ultimately, kill Gurley.


    According to the New York Daily News, the charges that Liang faces are not yet clear. However, he is expected to turn himself in Wednesday.



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  11. QueEx

    QueEx Well-Known Member Super Moderator

    Re: Black & Hispanic Men- MURDERED by the NEW YORK POLICE- "Dred Scott" Lives


    Wisconsin Teen Was Unarmed
    When He Was Fatally Shot by Cop​

    Tony Robinson, 19, was unarmed when he was shot late Friday by a Madison, Wisc., police officer​




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    A 19-year-old African American man was unarmed when he was shot and killed Friday [March 6, 2015] by a white officer in Madison, Wisc., the Associated Press reports, renewing the national debate about aggressive policing in the black community. Protests erupted over the shooting and last thorughout the day Saturday.

    The teen, Tony Robinson, was shot after allegedly assaulting Officer Matt Kenny, Madison Police Chief Mike Koval said Saturday during a news conference. The incident began about 6:30 p.m. on Friday when police received a call about a person jumping into traffic. A second call to police said the man was "responsible for a battery" in a nearby apartment, Koval said, according to the AP.

    The officer went to the apartment and pushed his way inside after hearing a disturbance, the report says. Upon entering, he was allegedly assaulted by Robinson, and that’s when the officer fired, the chief says. Koval told the press that he was uncertain how many shots were fired and that the incident is under investigation.

    "He was unarmed,” Koval said of Robinson, the AP writes. “That's going to make this all the more complicated for the investigators, for the public to accept." Police department spokesman Joel DeSpain said Kenny would not have been wearing a body camera, the AP says.

    The shooting thrust Madison into the center of the growing controversy about police brutality in the nation’s police departments. At the scene of the shooting, demonstrators chanted, “Black Lives Matter,” the mantra of demonstrators against aggressive policing across the country.

    "I can't even compute what has happened," Robinson's mother, Andrea Irwin, said in a statement. "I haven't even had a chance to see his body."


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  12. QueEx

    QueEx Well-Known Member Super Moderator


    Tony Robinson, 19, was unarmed when he was shot late Friday by a Madison, Wisc., police officer​



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    QueEx Well-Known Member Super Moderator


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  14. QueEx

    QueEx Well-Known Member Super Moderator


    50 Years Since Selma​



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  15. muckraker10021

    muckraker10021 Superstar ***** BGOL Investor



    Look at delusional self-hating Black man below. His name is David Clarke, he is the Milwaukee County Sheriff.
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    Sheriff Clarke will brutalize and kill a Black man quicker than a Klansman in Mississippi in 1939 catching a Black man leaving a white woman's bedroom at One AM in the morning.

    Mr. Clarke is a RepubliKlan party favorite. The put him in front of the microphones and television cameras every time a Black man is murdered by the police. Without exception he always says that it was the Black male victims fault that he is dead.

    Mr. Clarke agrees with RepubliKlan Peter King:

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    Mr. Clarke says that Black man, Mr. Eric Garner, who was choked to death by a gang of policeman surrounding him like a pack of rabid hyenas, is responsible for his own death.




    Tear down the ‘blue wall of silence': New York Dem destroys sheriff who blames police violence on blacks


    May 15, 2015
    http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/tea...sheriff-who-blames-police-violence-on-blacks/
     
  16. MASTERBAKER

    MASTERBAKER ヽ(͡° ͜ʖ Grown Folks Board/cooking Super Moderator

    Do Britain’s gunless bobbies provide answers for America’s police?

    Do Britain’s gunless bobbies provide answers for America’s police?

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    LONDON — To join the few and the proud who police Britain’s streets with a gun, first you have to walk the beat unarmed for years.

    Then there is the rigorous selection process — an unforgiving complement of fitness tests, psychological appraisals and marksmanship exams. Finally, there is the training, which involves endless drilling on even the most routine scenarios.

    “They rehearse those situations like a SEAL team trying to get into Osama bin Laden’s compound,” Cambridge University criminologist Lawrence Sherman said.

    Yet, in a country where the vast majority of police officers patrol with batons and pepper spray, the elite cadre of British cops who are entrusted with guns almost never use them. Police in Britain have fatally shot two people in the past three years.

    That’s less than the average number of people shot and killed by police every day in the United States over the first five months of 2015, according to a Washington Post analysis.
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    As the United States reckons with that toll — and with the constant drip of videos showing the questionable use of force by officers — lightly armed Britain might seem an unorthodox place to look for solutions. But experts say the way British bobbies are trained, commanded and vigorously scrutinized may offer U.S. police forces a useful blueprint for bringing down the rate of deadly violence and defusing some of the burning tension felt in cities from coast to coast.

    Of course, British and U.S. police are patrolling different societies. The United States has some of the world’s loosest gun laws and some of the highest rates of gun ownership.

    Britain is the opposite, with handguns and assault rifles effectively banned.

    That inherently changes the way police officers do their jobs.

    Phil Palmer was a British police officer for 15 years and was stabbed twice in the line of duty.

    “But in all my time, I never expected to have to deal with anyone with a firearm,” he said.

    During a year in the United States teaching and working with New York City police officers, he quickly realized that they had a very different expectation.

    “They were very professional. But every time they got out of their car to talk to someone, their hand would hover over the gun,” said Palmer, now the co-director of the Institute of Criminal Justice Research at Britain’s University of Southampton. “Police in America are more aggressive, and I think that’s because they have to be.”

    But there are also enough similarities that the British model carries special relevance. Like the United States, Britain is large, urbanized, democratic and diverse. Police have to reckon with gang violence, organized crime and Islamist extremists, all amid persistent allegations that they unfairly target minority communities.

    That puts Britain in a different class than the handful of other nations that largely forgo firearms when policing, including New Zealand, Iceland, Ireland and Norway.

    Few here would argue that the United States should adopt Britain’s nearly firearms-free approach. But as increasingly horrified British officers and commanders have watched videos of American police officers firing on civilians, they say they hope that some of their strategies and practices can be translated across the Atlantic.

    Sir Peter Fahy, chief of the Greater Manchester Police, commands 6,700 officers — just 209 of whom are armed. Those authorized to carry guns, he said, face extremely tight protocols governing when they can be deployed and under what circumstances they can fire. Shooting at moving vehicles, at people brandishing knives and at suspects fleeing a scene are all strictly forbidden except under extreme circumstances.

    “It’s very controlled,” he said. “There’s a huge emphasis on human rights, a huge emphasis on proportionality, a huge emphasis on considering every other option.”

    All officers, he said, are taught to back away from any situation that might otherwise escalate and to not feel that they have to “win” every confrontation.

    “I constantly remind our officers that their best weapon is their mouth,” he said. “Your first consideration is, ‘Can you talk this through? Can you buy yourself time?’ ”

    That mantra helps explain why, across England and Wales over the past decade, there has been an average of only five incidents a year in which police have opened fire.

    So, too, does the stringent screening process. Officers must serve for years before they can apply to carry a gun, and the selection of those deemed worthy is intensely competitive.

    When Mark Williams applied to be a firearms officer in 1995, he was among a group of 16 who started the grueling regimen of physical and psychological trials. Three made it.

    Williams was among them, but that wasn’t the end of the testing. He and his fellow firearms officers faced regular drills challenging them to find creative ways out of confrontations and spent long nights at the shooting range to upgrade their marksmanship.

    “If you fired the kind of rounds we did, you’d be bankrupt,” said Williams, who is now chief executive of the Police Firearms Officers Association. “We can put a lot of effort into the ones who are armed, because there aren’t that many.”

    Some aspects of British policing are more easily transferrable. Sherman, the Cambridge criminologist, recently told a White House task force that the United States should create a national college of policing, that states should set up police inspectors general to provide oversight and that local police forces should merge to achieve a minimum standard of 100 officers per department. All are steps, he said, that have worked in Britain.

    Of course, police shootings here can still arouse intense debate. One of the most prominent came in 2005, when a Brazilian electrician, Jean Charles de Menezes, was mistakenly identified as a would-be suicide bomber and shot nine times in the head by elite officers in a Tube station in London.

    Prosecutors chose not to charge anyone with his killing, a decision his family is challenging this week at the European Court of Human Rights.

    In 2011, police shot dead a 29-year-old black man, Mark Duggan, prompting several nights of riots across London. An inquest later ruled the killing had been lawful because police had ample reason to believe that Duggan was armed. But rights groups say the killing, and others like it, raise questions about police practices that echo concerns in the United States.

    “They may well be fewer here, but they raise similar issues,” said Deborah Coles, co-director of Inquest, an advocacy group.

    Still, there is little doubt that Britain has a more uniform and transparent process for reviewing such cases.

    Every police killing here is subject to an independent inquiry, and even nonfatal shootings are meticulously tracked and evaluated.

    Sir Denis O’Connor, a former police chief who later served as a royally appointed independent overseer of British police work, said cops here take seriously the idea of “policing by consent.” They see themselves as working for the public, he said, rather than for the state itself.

    They also know that someone is always looking over their shoulder.

    “The cops here tend to fear getting it wrong and being criticized by a judge,” he said. “Cops in the U.S. fear getting shot. Those are two very different worlds.”

    Karla Adam contributed to this report.
     
  17. QueEx

    QueEx Well-Known Member Super Moderator


    Mississippi Police Accused of Choking
    Unarmed Man to Death with Flashlight

    Stonewall police chief denies claims made by attorney for family of Jonathan
    Sanders, 39, who suffered ‘some kind of asphyxiation’ during altercation



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    Jonathan Sanders and his mother, Frances Sanders. (Family photo)


    Friday 10 July 2015

    State officials in Mississippi are investigating the death of an unarmed black man who was killed in a physical struggle with a police officer while saying “I can’t breathe”, according to his attorney.

    Jonathan Sanders suffered “some kind of asphyxiation” during an altercation with white officer Kevin Harrington on Wednesday night, in the small town of Stonewall, in the eastern part of the state, said the attorney, J Stewart Parrish.

    Sanders, 39, was a father of two children including a one-year-old, according to his family.

    Parrish told several local media outlets that Harrington pulled Sanders from a horse and choked him to death with a flashlight. Parrish told the Guardian on Friday that allegation had come from relatives who live beside the site of the struggle and witnessed it.

    But Stonewall police chief Michael Street denied the details of the attorney’s allegations, telling the Guardian the two men engaged in “a fight” without weapons after Sanders voluntarily stepped down from a horse-drawn buggy.


    “We won’t know until the autopsy is over what was the actual cause of death,” said Street. “But there was no flashlight used to choke anybody – that’s false. And there were no shots fired by either man, there were no weapons at all, and he was not dragged off a horse.”

    Parrish described the chief’s denial as “a difference without a distinction” because Sanders “was choked to death”, according to the relatives. “Towards the end of the incident, he was telling the officer ‘Let me go, I can’t breathe,” Parrish said they had recalled.

    The attorney, who is a former law enforcement officer, said Harrington appeared to have used excessive force. “Officers typically have Tasers, they have pepper spray – there are lots of different non-lethal ways to subdue somebody,” he said. “And one way, of course, is to walk away and come back with more officers.”

    Friends and relatives of Sanders have embarked on a campaign demanding “Justice for Jonathan”, displaying a flyer that shows Sanders riding a horse on social media accounts. A community horse ride is being planned as a tribute.

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    “Please continue praying for me and my family as we so desperately need,” his mother, Frances Sanders, said in a post to Facebook.

    Street has asked the Mississippi bureau of investigation (MBI) to look into the incident. He declined to specify why Harrington stopped Sanders. “But there’s no lighting on a horse carriage, and at 10.30 at night that’s ... well I can’t discuss that further,” he said in a telephone interview.

    Warren Strain, a spokesman for the MBI, said in an email that state investigators and forensic technicians attended the scene. “Since the investigation is ongoing there is little we can say at this point,” said Strain.

    Parrish said Sanders’s family insisted his buggy did have lights. Witnesses said the officer first stopped a man in a car who had just driven up beside Sanders’s buggy, according to Parrish. He then let this man go and pursued Sanders instead.

    “He was asking ‘Why do you stop me? What are you hassling me for?’,” Parrish said the witnesses had recounted. “He pulled him off the buggy, and they went to the ground, and it went from there.”

    The police chief said Sanders had no active warrants against him and that Harrington did not know who he was when the confrontation took place.

    Parrish said he was already representing Sanders because the 39-year-old was out on bond for a charge of possessing a small amount of cocaine earlier this year. The attorney said Sanders appeared relatively fit and healthy.

    Both Harrington and a medic gave CPR to Sanders, according to Street, before he was taken to a hospital in an ambulance. His body has been transferred to Jackson, about 100 miles to the west, for a full autopsy, according to authorities.

    Asked whether the officer was injured in the encounter, Street would only say Harrington was released after being taken to hospital for a procedural checkup and drug test. Harrington has been placed on leave from work for an unspecified period, according to the chief. “With everything going on right now, we thought that was best,” he said.

    Street said it was not clear whether Sanders acted aggressively. “At this point we’re not sure,” he said. “It would be premature for me to make any assumption on what Mr Sanders did or did not do.” He confirmed Sanders was unarmed.

    The police chief also declined to detail where the incident happened. “All we can say is that it was within the Stonewall city limits around 10.30pm,” he said.

    Stonewall is home to only 1,144 people, according to 2013 US census bureau data, which found that 77% of residents were white and 23% were black. Almost 29% of families in the town had incomes below the poverty line.

    The town was established in Clarke County in the years after the American civil war and was named after General Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson, a senior commander in the confederate army, according to the state department of archives and history.

    Street said his department is composed of 10 part-time officers – nine white and one black. He said one of the white officers was a woman and the other nine officers were men. “So we’re kind of diverse,” he said.

    Street said he expected that the results of the MBI’s inquiry would be put to a Clarke County grand jury for the consideration of criminal charges.

    The police chief appealed people to remain calm while the inquiry was carried out. “We don’t need anything being taken out into the street,” he said. “Our community is a good community. We don’t see any issues there. We are going to continue our good relationship.”​



    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/10/mississippi-death-unarmed-black-man-jonathan-sanders



     
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    QueEx Well-Known Member Super Moderator


    Video of Fatal Calif. Police-Involved Shooting
    Ordered Released by Federal Judge

    A federal judge unsealed the controversial dash-cam video
    depicting what happened when Ricardo Diaz-Zeferino, who was
    unarmed, was shot eight times by Gardena police officers in 2013.​




    Video of a fatal Gardena, Calif., police-involved shooting has been unsealed after media outlets demanded its public release, the Associated Press reports.

    A federal judge ruled in favor of the police dash-cam video’s release, pointing out that the city could not claim any compelling reason to keep the video sealed and adding that there was public interest in what led the city to settle with the family of the victim for $4.7 million.

    "The fact that they spent the city's money, presumably derived from taxes, only strengthens the public's interest in seeing the videos," Judge Steven Wilson wrote in his decision. "Moreover, defendants cannot assert a valid compelling interest in sealing the videos to cover up any wrongdoing on their part or to shield themselves from embarrassment."

    On June 2, 2013, Ricardo Diaz-Zeferino was helping his brother and two friends search for his brother's stolen bicycle. When the theft was called in, however, police dispatchers reportedly erroneously reported it as a robbery. Misinformed responding officers approached the men as possibly armed suspects.

    In the video footage, which shows the officers approaching Diaz-Zeferino and his companions, officers could be heard yelling at the men to get their hands up. The men put their arms in the air.

    Diaz-Zeferino, who was intoxicated at the time, AP notes, took a few steps toward the police, slowly lowering his hands with his palms up and gesturing as if he were speaking to the officers. Officers again yelled at him to put his hands up, with which he again complied.

    The young man then moved again, this time taking off a cap that was on his head and lowering his hands before police started opening fire.

    According to AP, from one angle it looks as if Diaz-Zeferino's palms were open and facing upward, but from other footage taken from behind the two officers, it almost looks as if his right hand briefly went out of view at his waist before officers opened fire.

    A friend, Eutiquio Acevedo Mendez, was shot once and injured.


    Two minutes after the shots were fired, officers handcuffed the gravely wounded Diaz-Zeferino. Paramedics did not arrive on the scene until nine minutes after he was shot.

    THE VIDEO:​


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    http://www.theroot.com/articles/new...eased_by_federal_judge.html?wpisrc=topstories


     
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    QueEx Well-Known Member Super Moderator

  21. JamesATL

    JamesATL Lurker FD

    deep, and good post
     
  22. thoughtone

    thoughtone no donaré FD

  23. QueEx

    QueEx Well-Known Member Super Moderator


    University of Cincinnati Officer Indicted
    in Fatal Shooting of Samuel DuBose




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    The funeral for Samuel Dubose at the Church of the Living God in Cincinnati on Tuesday. Mr. Dubose was
    fatally shot by a University of Cincinnati police officer last week. Credit John Minchillo/Associated Press


    [​IMG]
    Officer Ray Tensing​



    A University of Cincinnati police officer was indicted on murder charges on Wednesday in the fatal shooting of a driver this month.

    In the indictment handed down by a grand jury in Hamilton County, the officer, Ray Tensing, is accused of killing the driver, Samuel DuBose, during a traffic stop near the campus on July 19.

    At a news conference, the county prosecutor, Joe Deters, said that Officer Tensing “purposely killed” Mr. DuBose after the officer lost his temper.

    The death of Mr. DuBose, who was black, at the hands of Officer Tensing, who is white, joined a string of recent episodes — in Staten Island, Cleveland, North Charleston, S.C., and Ferguson, Mo., among others — that have raised hard questions about law enforcement use of force, and the role of race in policing. Video cameras have recorded many of the episodes and nonlethal encounters like the arrest of Sandra Bland, who died three days later in a Texas jail cell, offering disturbing evidence of the confrontations that often contradicts the accounts of people involved.

    Mr. DuBose, 43, a father of 10, was just south of the university campus, driving a green 1998 Honda Accord without a front license plate, when Officer Tensing began following him, according to an account that Jason Goodrich, chief of the university police, gave on Monday. Moments later, the officer pulled Mr. Dubose over on a side street, a few blocks from the campus, Mr. Goodrich said.

    He said that when Officer Tensing asked for a driver’s license, Mr. DuBose handed him a bottle of alcohol instead. But Mr. Goodrich gave no more insight into the confrontation that followed, in which the officer fired one shot that struck Mr. Dubose in the head.

    Another university officer who arrived shortly after the shooting, Eric Weibel, wrote in his report that Officer Tensing told him that “he was being dragged by the vehicle and had to fire his weapon,” and that “Officer Tensing stated that he was almost run over.” A third officer, he wrote, said he had seen Officer Tensing being dragged.

    “Looking at Officer Tensing’s uniform, I could see that the back of his pants and shirt looked as if it had been dragged over a rough surface,” Officer Weibel wrote.

    On an audio recording of police radio communications, after Officer Tensing shouted “Shots fired! Shots fired,” a dispatcher asked who was injured. It is not clear if he replied “I am injured” or “I’m uninjured.”

    “I almost got run over by the car,” the officer said. “He took off on me. I discharged one round. Shot the man in the head.”

    Another officer can later be heard saying “It was Officer Tensing that was injured.”​



    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/30/u...icted-in-shooting-death-of-motorist.html?_r=0



     
  24. QueEx

    QueEx Well-Known Member Super Moderator


    Ray Tensing, Sam Dubose case: Body cam footage from
    June shows University of Cincinnati officer's demeanor
    during stops ahead of the fatal shooting of Sam Dubose.​



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    http://youtu.be/Z0cdejrSjyc


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    QueEx Well-Known Member Super Moderator

  26. roots69

    roots69 Well-Known Member BGOL Investor

    This is one of many reasons, the war on drugs has to end! And a big push to reform the justice system!! The police culture need taken apart and rebuilt!! The days of replacing a white police chief, with a black police chief! Isn't the answer! The code has to be totally destroyed!!! If not, in the future it will happen again!! It might be you or I!!
     
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    QueEx Well-Known Member Super Moderator

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    Re: Black & Hispanic Men- MURDERED by the NEW YORK POLICE- "Dred Scott" Lives

    19-Year-Old Unarmed College Student
    Fatally Shot by Texas Police


    Christian Taylor was all set to start his sophomore year at Angelo State
    University when he was shot dead by police, who claim that he was
    attempting to rob a car dealership, a claim his family finds hard to believe.



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    Christian Taylor



    Arlington, Texas, police fatally shot a 19-year-old college student who they claim broke into a car dealership early Friday morning, but some members of the dead man's family find the police version of the story hard to believe.

    According to the Star-Telegram, around 1 a.m. Friday, police were notified of a burglary in progress at a GMC Classic Buick dealership. Police say a security company called for emergency help after company employees witnessed a man using his car to crash through the dealership's showroom window.

    "The officers went and confronted him. There was an altercation. An officer discharged his weapon and struck the suspect," Sgt. Paul Rodriguez, a police spokesman, told the Star-Telegram.

    The Tarrant County Medical Examiner's Office identified the dead man Friday afternoon as 19-year-old Christian Taylor. Taylor was a sophomore at Angelo State University and a member of the football team. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

    Rodriguez added that Taylor was unarmed when he was shot.

    Police identified the officer involved in the shooting as 49-year-old Brad Miller, a recent graduate of the academy, who was working under the supervision of a training officer at the time of the shooting. Miller has been placed on administrative leave.

    "We're having two independent investigations—a criminal and administrative," Rodriguez said. "As an agency, we take the loss of any human life as serious, but we owe it to our community to conduct a clear and transparent investigation to determine what exactly took place."

    Clyde Fuller, Taylor's great-uncle, told the Star-Telegram that the story that is being described doesn't add up. He said his great-nephew was set to return to college and that he excelled at football.

    "He was a good kid. I don't see him stealing no car or nothing like that," Fuller said.

    "I think something is going on that somebody is lying about," Fuller told the Star-Telegram. "They say he's burglarizing the place by running up in there? Nuh-uh. Something doesn't sound right."

    Rodriguez told the newspaper that the officers are in the process of receiving body cameras but don't have them yet, and as such, Officer Miller was not wearing one during the shooting.

    He added that there are several security cameras in the dealership, but police haven't found footage that shows the incident clearly.

    "We are looking at all available video from outside and inside the location to obtain as much information as possible," Rodriguez said.​


    http://www.theroot.com/articles/new...ege_student_fatally_shot_by_texas_police.html


    http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/arlington/article30387390.html


     
  31. QueEx

    QueEx Well-Known Member Super Moderator

    Re: Black & Hispanic Men- MURDERED by the NEW YORK POLICE- "Dred Scott" Lives




    “The officers went and confronted him. There was an altercation. An
    officer discharged his weapon and struck the suspect,” Rodriguez said . . . Taylor,
    who was pronounced dead at the scene at 1:47 a.m., was not armed.​



    :hmm: no allegation that the young man posed a threat of some kind to the officers or someone else . . .


    The officer, identified by the department as 49-year-old Brad Miller,
    graduated from the police academy in March. He has been in field
    training
    and working under the supervision of a training officer . . .

    The training officer and other officers were on the scene
    when the shooting occurred,
    Rodriguez said.


    :smh: WTF was going on here ???

     
  32. QueEx

    QueEx Well-Known Member Super Moderator

    Re: Black & Hispanic Men- MURDERED by the NEW YORK POLICE- "Dred Scott" Lives



    Unarmed college football player
    shot several times by rookie officer​



    (CNN)— An unarmed Texas college football player who was fatally <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">shot by police [because he] didn't comply with officers' initial calls to surrender</span> . . . Christian Taylor, 19, was shot multiple times during an early-morning incident at a car dealership <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">by a rookie officer who was nearing the end of 16 weeks of field training</span> . . . When officers arrived, Taylor was inside. They yelled at him from the other side of the glass to get on the ground but he ran away and tried to open a locked glass door, Johnson said . . . <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">Brad Miller, 49</span>, and his training officer</span>, a 19-year veteran, went inside to arrest Taylor. There was a confrontation in which Miller <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">fired four times</span> and the <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">other officer used a Taser</span>, the chief said.

    . . . . Miller has yet to be interviewed by investigators. Miller was not injured, but it is standard procedure to wait a few days before questioning an officer involved in a deadly shooting, the chief said. ​



    http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/08/us/texas-dealership-shooting/


     
  33. michigantoga

    michigantoga Well-Known Member BGOL Investor

    Great thread, thanks!
     
  34. QueEx

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    Re: Black & Hispanic Men- MURDERED by the NEW YORK POLICE- "Dred Scott" Lives



    Leaked police audio appears to DISPROVE official account
    of the moment rookie Texas cop shot dead unarmed college
    football player as there is NO evidence of supposed 'struggle'.



    Four minutes and 22 seconds into the audio dispatch, an officer says: 'I just saw a guy
    in the building that has a hat on, a straw hat.' Taylor had blond-dipped hair.

    Within seconds, another officer exclaims: 'Whoa, we got shots fired!'

    The next few seconds are filled with scuffling and mutters, then another officer shouts:
    'Make sure they're called, make sure they're called!' Huffington Post surmises this was
    the shooter speaking, Officer Brad Miller.

    Taylor, who played football at Angelo State University in San Angelo, was fatally gunned
    down by Miller, 49, at the Classic Buick GMC building in Arlington at around 1am on Friday.

    He had reportedly driven an SUV through the dealership's metal gate before getting out of
    the vehicle and damaging a car in the parking lot, prompting the firm's security company to
    call 911.

    He had then climbed back into the SUV and driven through the showroom glass, it is alleged.

    Less than a year ago, the teen posted the now-poignant tweet: 'I don't wanna die too younggggg.'

    Almost exactly a year ago, Taylor tweeted: 'I don't feel protected by the police.'

    [​IMG]


    Months later, the Mansfield Summit High School graduate would tweet: 'Police taking black lives
    as easy as flippin a coin, with no consequences.'

    Then came the tweet about not wanting to die young.


    READ MORE: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...all-player-NO-evidence-supposed-struggle.html



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  35. QueEx

    QueEx Well-Known Member Super Moderator

    Re: Black & Hispanic Men- MURDERED by the NEW YORK POLICE- "Dred Scott" Lives



    Leaked police audio appears to DISPROVE official account
    of the moment rookie Texas cop shot dead unarmed college
    football player as there is NO evidence of supposed 'struggle'.



    Four minutes and 22 seconds into the audio dispatch, an officer says: 'I just saw a guy
    in the building that has a hat on, a straw hat.' Taylor had blond-dipped hair.

    Within seconds, another officer exclaims: 'Whoa, we got shots fired!'

    The next few seconds are filled with scuffling and mutters, then another officer shouts:
    'Make sure they're called, make sure they're called!' Huffington Post surmises this was
    the shooter speaking, Officer Brad Miller.

    Taylor, who played football at Angelo State University in San Angelo, was fatally gunned
    down by Miller, 49, at the Classic Buick GMC building in Arlington at around 1am on Friday.

    He had reportedly driven an SUV through the dealership's metal gate before getting out of
    the vehicle and damaging a car in the parking lot, prompting the firm's security company to
    call 911.

    He had then climbed back into the SUV and driven through the showroom glass, it is alleged.

    Less than a year ago, the teen posted the now-poignant tweet: 'I don't wanna die too younggggg.'

    Almost exactly a year ago, Taylor tweeted: 'I don't feel protected by the police.'

    [​IMG]


    Months later, the Mansfield Summit High School graduate would tweet: 'Police taking black lives
    as easy as flippin a coin, with no consequences.'

    Then came the tweet about not wanting to die young.


    READ MORE: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...all-player-NO-evidence-supposed-struggle.html



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