Kareem's Open Letter To Pippen For His Comments About Lebron...
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Ok asshole Ray Felix 6'11, Gary Alcorn 6'9, Ron Johnson 6'8, Joe Ruklick 6'9, And I didn't even mention Wilt and that's just off two teams rosters man. Shit you said didn't even make sense. Plenty guys back then were tall. Now you go outside nigga.
which means you had to be absolutely special in order to make it? you had to be something great... scrubs couldn't make it.
and again you say bigger and stronger
they aren't bigger than russell and wilt
stronger yes...but as i said give them the same scientific advantages.. they were as strong as they could be back then
you mean to tell me that if they didn't have the diet techniques the supplements the shots the training that we have today they couldn't be just as strong?
what happened was the nba traded actually basketball attributes for athletic ability
and the game has suffered.
if your 7 feet tall they'll give you a shot (cause you can't teach height
) nevermind these dudes are fucking scrubs word to hasheem.
who or what could stop him other than a guard who couldn't get him the ball?
there are no centers equipped to stop him from dropping wilt numbers.
and as i said kareem with the hook would be just as dominate
how do you stop the hook shot?
you cant
hate to break it to you, but you were a dime a dozen back then as well.
there were so many players who were that height and played d1 ball but they simply weren't good enough to make the cut in an 8 player league.
they didn't draft on potential like they do now, because they have so many players you can have a bad draft class and its ok. you can just go ahead and take a risk on a player that doesn't even play for you for a couple of years.
couldn't do that then.
you were 6'5'' ok cool
what skills do you possess that could make you a center back then? so you're saying you'd go up against wilt and russel?
the problem is the tape doesn't do them justice.
if you can't get 30 teams in the nba to use 1 of their 2 picks on you today
how could someone reasonable conclude that they could get 8 teams to give them a shot?
if you can't get in when there's more
how you gonna get in when there's less?
How he thought he had a comeback after this is amazing. You can't make the league now with more than 30 teams but you could make it when there was 8? Huh?
Players play earlier and still suck when they get to the pro level, so what's your point? All the years of AAU and shit and they're still trying to grasp fundamental basketball as a pro so that's meaningless.
It's not a belief that the NBA was stacked then, it's a universally acknowledged fact. Before the Black players came, there's a legit argument but in the era of Russell's Celtics and Chamberlain's Lakers, there isn't one.
oscar roberston gets a triple double every night
kareem shoots the hook
wilt grabs the boards
jordan and bird get their points.
but what you said about the height back then just isn't true.
and you also have to take into account that people didn't draft like they do today...you don't draft cause a player is tall you draft cause a player is good.
how are they taller how tall was wilt homie? how hard is that to understandnobody is saying everyone
i am saying WILT and russell
and again i said give them the same scientific advantages (supplements workout techniques etc etc)
an acl tear meant the end of your career back then
now you can come back in 9 months
the women would dominate?
ok homie, no more responses towards you concerning basketball
enjoy your day
Yeah, what was that?
not with his ego. Wilt would have never giving MJ that credit. He said he would average 70 ppg in MJ's NBA
some people are arguing that wilt chamberlain would not be able to compete athletically with today's NBA player?
wilt chamberlain was faster, stronger, and a better leaper than 100% of today's players at either the 4 or the 5.
as i said
these characters don't know basketball
and are just shooting from the hip
i'm waiting on someone to tell me how do you stop wilt
or who stops kareem from scoring with the hook shot at will
Ok asshole Ray Felix 6'11, Gary Alcorn 6'9, Ron Johnson 6'8, Joe Ruklick 6'9, And I didn't even mention Wilt and that's just off two teams rosters man. Shit you said didn't even make sense. Plenty guys back then were tall. Now you go outside nigga.
http://www.411mania.com/sports/nba/48122/The-Death-of-the-NBA-Big-Man-Part-1.htm
4 players over 6'8
that was trolling
anytime someone says something like that their opinion and what they say is done far as im concerned. he can quote me a million times before but at this point he just simply doesn't know basketball period.
nobody who does, who isn't trying to troll would say something like that
and that's ok
I thought your five was russell, baylor, unseld, big o and jerry west bro.
Magic vs Oscar-push
Jordan vs. West-MJ torches West
Bird vs. Baylor-slight edge to Larry Legend, but Baylor is a great scorer
Duncan vs. Unseld-Duncan the GOAT power forward
Shaq vs. Russell-Shaq would get his, and Russell is limited on offense
LA Sparks would win a few rings in the 50's and 60's
I feel what Kareem is saying bu it's pretty tough to compare the eras because they are two different games. One game the offense revolved around the big man and now the offense comes through the little guys. The argument that there were fewer teams so they faced greater talent is not necessarily true either. Out of those eight teams, you would struggle to name 2 great players per team, yet during MJs era the top 8 teams all had at least 3 good/great players. The guy that started this whole comparison played second fiddle to MJ and he was still considered one of the top 50 NBA players. The stats guys like Wilt and Bill ammassed are impossible today due to rules changes and advances in both offensive and defensive schemes and the minutes that they played. If there were no 3 second rule today, then 7 footers would stay in the paint collecting rebounds, blocked shots and making high percentage shots like back then.
basketball i.q.=0
You dudes HAVE to know TC is trolling.
You dudes HAVE to know TC is trolling.
I said that and the nigga got pissed off like I was lying.
Cuz I don't agree with you? And know my high school girls team would be a 2nd seedin the 60'S
I said that and the nigga got pissed off like I was lying.
Got pissed? Seems like you're getting pissed at my posts about that sorry ass period in nba history......2011 Heat vs 60's Boston would be like dream team 92 vs the teams they played
50?!?!?!
Come on fam. The game is totally different. Coaching alone will stop that. One on One yea he would probably drop 50 but is not a one on one game. I bug out now on how high schools are using tape.
Knew a couple cats in the league and were crazy at 6'9 He would be one of the greats but no way he averages 50....
Same thing with every sport brothers are just way stronger faster jump higher all that. Players he played against are not as good as they are today. If we cant agree with that then we just agree to disagree. U can not leave out the pure size of man. Banging against 6'11 - 7'1 every night? He didnt do that.
Baseball.
Football.
same story
To the poster who said WNBA team would win
But would be interesting lol. Foreals.
You've obviously never seen a Wilt interview.
And
How can you say Jordan averaged more against better competition!!?!?!? As Kareem said, there were 8 teams then! And as much as you would like to view that as a negative it is actually a positive, in that only the BEST Players made it to the NBA back then... in Jordan's era up until today, more players are able to make the league, so therefore the talent pool is a lot more diluted!!! No Timberwolves, or Cavs, etc. then, just the cream of the crop!!!
Wilt actually dissed Jordan, and Jordan dissed Wilt back.
But, the most incredible no. of them all: 20k women?
I'm sorry, but I have no desire to fuck that many TIMES in my life let alone that many different women.
Read a fucking book, Wilt!
But, the most incredible no. of them all: 20k women?
I'm sorry, but I have no desire to fuck that many TIMES in my life let alone that many different women.
Read a fucking book, Wilt!
Yeah what are you about 12 or 13 yrs old that is the stupidest thing I have read so far in this debate.
Fact that you made a statement about me and don't know shit about me is borderline trolling.....
In 1960 there were only 5 players over 6'7......I'm 6'5 and played D1 ball......Today I'm a dime a dozen back then I could've been a center
You're right, it was me who got upset.
You dudes HAVE to know TC is trolling.
No, he's just another misguided (and insecure) black supremacist.
Did he say that or did he say LeBron could be the best ever? There's a difference.
You've obviously never seen a Wilt interview.
And
Werd!!! Kareem was like 'Remember who I AM before you come at me on some bullshit Nicca!!!!'
Alright, Blunt - put your toys away for the day. Time to take your nap...
You're right, it was me who got upset.
So that's me getting pissed? Or is it just a real statement?
Today's NBA is so water downed due to expansion. Back in Wilts era you never had an off night where you were playing the Toronto Raptors. Every team you played was stacked. Wilt would be the best player in the NBA today by far and have no problem putting up 30 ppg 15 rpg 4 bpg with 4 apg. By the way he didn't face little white boys, every night he faced 6'10 and up , hall of fame centers like Bill Russell, Dave Cowens, Kareem, and Nate Thurmond (who is the exact weight and height as Dwight Howard). George Mikan's era was the era of skinny white boys, not Russell and Wilts.
Does this look like a skinny white boy to you?
Everything Kareem said was right, we don't give enough credit to guys who played pre-1980's
I have to kindly disagree, the league now has far more better athletes than it did then. Now are there too many teams? Yes! But to me there should be like 24 to 25 teams. With the influx of European players and all of the players from around the would the talent pool is clearly bigger than it was back then. You got small forwards who are 6'10 now and you have 7'0 power forwards. The league is different and better than it was back then.To me thats just like saying Babe Ruth would dominate this era, not gonna happen with todays athletes.
You are probably right!
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