if anybody here thinks Wilt or Russell would avgerage 50 or even 35pts agame in today's NBA you need you head checked. The game is played sooo much differently than it was in the 60's, and you don't need to have seen it then to know this is true.
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Yea u right
Stromile swift would have 3 rings in the 90s
He woulda been the next Shawn kemp.
Stromile swift would have 3 rings in the 90s
He woulda been the next Shawn kemp.
Yeah, it's a bunch of great big men today.
Such as Dwight Howard and......
I said in Jordan's era, Ewing, David Robinson, Hakeem, Shaq, Mourning. But there are more big men in the league today than it was back then, there are way more 6'10 to 7'0 in the league. They might not be great big men but they are very skilled.
You've obviously never seen a Wilt interview.
And@ Kareem reminding niggaz who the all-time scoring leader is.
All i remember is seeing what I thought was tmac daddy due to the eye laziness.
Wilt was at kansas playing against cacs.
But no question he would dominate he 80s but would be another Loser when faces Jordan.
Ask Kareem and magic and worthy.
The talent was nowhere near anything modern. He was playing against little white boys n shit lol
Todays NBA is shit. Certainly from a big mans perspective. They both would dominate todays undersized and underskilled big men. Now the 80's and even early 90's would be a different discussion.
First...I think it's idiotic to compare eras...
Second...nobody dominated their game during their time like Wilt and Russell.
Last...that column by Kareem,was a sky-hook from the right baseline,10 feet away...nothing but net.
Second...nobody dominated their game during their time like Wilt and Russell.
Last...that column by Kareem,was a sky-hook from the right baseline,10 feet away...nothing but net.
Wilt was playing when the rules allowed for strong defense. The current NBA and the steady change of rules was made to make it a more offensive game.
http://newsok.com/since-hand-check-rule-change-nba-has-become-a-perimeter-players-league/article/3445220
Bullshit. Current big men don't need true talent. they just need to be big and most never develop their game.
Only ones that would of given Wilt and Russell a hard time would of been Ewing, Hakeem, David Robinson and Tim Duncan. Too many of the others to be named have huge holes in their games.
I always think when you have these debates you have to put things in a historical perspective. If ow you measure the greatness of a player is based on rings then of course Russell would be deemed the greatest. It is flawed logic because basketball is a team sport. The "best ever" is easier to define in individual sports.
I once heard Bob Cousy speak about playing in the modern era. e said he couldn't. He said there are few players from his era who could because the abilities of these players have skyrocketed compared to then. They are more athletic. They can do things with the basketball that those of previous eras could only imagine. Today's worst NBA player is still better than most players from the past.
One reason why I liked the best 50 players list is because it was based on eras. When defining team sports you always have to consider the era and that should be the primary consideration because things change, and with our technological advancements in medicine, nutrition, training and the philosophy of the game.
Some have suggested expanding the the court and evening raising the basket because of the athletic ability of the players.
Lastly, when I watch games from other eras even the haloed 80's, there is no comparison in the ability of players today and yesteryear. Some like to use that they were more cerebral, but that is just an excuse that is used when one can't compete which was a common tactic criticizing black athletes that is still common in football but not so much more in basketball.
Point blank, the game is just more difficult than before whether we want to admit it or not, but people like to be nostalgic and romantic about the past instead of being completely honest with themselves especially if it is of a time from their youth.
I once heard Bob Cousy speak about playing in the modern era. e said he couldn't. He said there are few players from his era who could because the abilities of these players have skyrocketed compared to then. They are more athletic. They can do things with the basketball that those of previous eras could only imagine. Today's worst NBA player is still better than most players from the past.
One reason why I liked the best 50 players list is because it was based on eras. When defining team sports you always have to consider the era and that should be the primary consideration because things change, and with our technological advancements in medicine, nutrition, training and the philosophy of the game.
Some have suggested expanding the the court and evening raising the basket because of the athletic ability of the players.
Lastly, when I watch games from other eras even the haloed 80's, there is no comparison in the ability of players today and yesteryear. Some like to use that they were more cerebral, but that is just an excuse that is used when one can't compete which was a common tactic criticizing black athletes that is still common in football but not so much more in basketball.
Point blank, the game is just more difficult than before whether we want to admit it or not, but people like to be nostalgic and romantic about the past instead of being completely honest with themselves especially if it is of a time from their youth.
Im at work lmao over this pic. I know everybody wondering what the fuck is so funny
Ok I get it that Mike was a great player and all that stuff, but the greatest??? I don't know about that one... He scored points, but look at how many shots he put up to get those points. He was the best athlete at his time and his body control was miraculous and that's what separated him from everyone else at the time. Before Mike bball was all about skills and fundamentals and the older cats could out shoot any of these athletes today. The best all around bball player has to go to the Big O(Oscar Robertson). I mean who can argue with averaging triple doubles? I also will argue about him having the most willing to win over Magic! Magic could make any team look and play better. His bball IQ was over the top and he always knew exactly what he had to do to win a game. I can count Bird in that category also. Magic and Bird didn't have all the athletic ability that a lot of the NBA had, but nobody could stop them from scoring when they wanted to. Now to Kareems letter, him, Wilt and Russel had the height advantage over all of NBA so that was not fair and pretty much no competition except each other.
exactly...even players of today are more advanced physically and skill wise than the 90's.
well said post and while he spoke some truth real spit,but he's just another nigga hatin and all that "we're you there" BS is lame we have the stats to make the argument now and IMO AIR is the best hands down he's the only star that didn't have a fuckin all star team(Detroit 04 exempt) to win a ship and Wilt was tallest biggest nigga in a league FULL of white boys and only got 2 ships and Pip was trippin with them comments........
and Pip was trippin with them comments........
Like i said they were playing against little white boys. They'd be lucky to aver 21 points a game in the modern era
Lol, not only that, Wilt played in every single minute of the season he averaged 50 ppg. An NBA game is 48 minutes right? he averaged 48.5 minutes per game that season
and he amassed a 20,000 female fuck-pool so this mofo was a BEAST!!!
wait.. wasn't it 50,000???
Today's NBA is so water downed due to expansion. Back in Wilts era you never had an off night where you were playing the Toronto Raptors. Every team you played was stacked. Wilt would be the best player in the NBA today by far and have no problem putting up 30 ppg 15 rpg 4 bpg with 4 apg. By the way he didn't face little white boys, every night he faced 6'10 and up , hall of fame centers like Bill Russell, Dave Cowens, Kareem, and Nate Thurmond (who is the exact weight and height as Dwight Howard). George Mikan's era was the era of skinny white boys, not Russell and Wilts.
Does this look like a skinny white boy to you?
Everything Kareem said was right, we don't give enough credit to guys who played pre-1980's
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Wilt best in his Era. Would average 22 pts a game now.
Not as many Big men, too many white dudes with not much athletic ability.
You liable to be in the league now and have a no name 8th man guard yam it on you in traffic.
I respect the accomplishments of the brother and all but na no competition. MJ greatest at this point.
Not as many Big men, too many white dudes with not much athletic ability.
You liable to be in the league now and have a no name 8th man guard yam it on you in traffic.
I respect the accomplishments of the brother and all but na no competition. MJ greatest at this point.
Dude feels very underrated and under-appreciated.
Frankly, I can't blame him for feeling that way.
Right, because he hasn't won every award and been honored in every way possible since high school.
if 7ft1 young Shaq dominated why wouldnt Wilt? Wilt was taller faster and a way better rebounder than Shaq and this era had no answer for Shaq but injury and father time.
Right, because he hasn't won every award and been honored in every way possible since high school.
Incredible, Blunt. Keep 'em coming.
Man please I would have made it to the NBA in those days...
When Shaq played, it was against players that were either close in height or his height. Not taking anything from Wilt but, I believe the average center back then was about 6'6 or so. Bill Russell was 6'9 and was basically a "tall" center for those days. In the 90's, Zo was 6'10 and considered an undersized center
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This.
I hear Red auerbach say in an interview that the only people who say Shaq is the most dominant big man ever are people who never saw Wilt play.
You'd have a much better chance today with 30 teams (watered down with loads of stiffs) than back then when there were 8 or 12 teams (all stacked with the best players in the world).
Wilt faced Russell a DOZEN times during the regular season (and often another 7 in the post-season)!! The best against the best at all times. The Miami Heat don't even have a center, or a point guard worth a damn.
Well said.
False. Wilt would dominate todays game and so-called big men. His size, athletic ability and skill are unmatched by ANY center currently playing. Again, the 80's and perhaps early 90's would be a different story, but todays big men are trash.
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