John Hanson, a black man, was the 1st president of the USA? (true or false)

Was the 1st US president a black man?

  • yes

    Votes: 24 25.0%
  • no

    Votes: 49 51.0%
  • not sure

    Votes: 23 24.0%

  • Total voters
    96

You know what he meant. Maybe you guys ought to stop posting if you don't have anything useful to add to the thread. You've stated your point, made it clear that you know just as little as we do, now let the people genuinely interested in the Moors have a discussion without congesting the thread with negativity. :cool: You and alexw are acting like blunt right now. :smh:
 
man its so much misinformation in this thread its mind boggling

but people want to believe in their absurd beliefs so its a waste of time to school them

plus, anyone can claim to be a scholar/historian on the net

but from reading his shit, i seriously doubt it

i mean they made a claim about the 18th century moors thats just out there

that peace treaty had nothing to do with allowing moroccan blacks in

morocco was like the 3rd or 4th country to recognize us as a country

i need to google the shit, but its something like that

Shyt is so wack the he has a Skins fan & a cowbytch fan on the same side:smh:
 

nevermind man

listen, all moors werent black

moors isnt an ethnicity

they came in all different shades and colors

from white to midnight black

its equivalent to a foreigner calling you an american

therefore none of the arguments in this thread make sense

when the racial, religious, and cultural background of the moors would face extreme racism during those times
 
You know what he meant. Maybe you guys ought to stop posting if you don't have anything useful to add to the thread. You've stated your point, made it clear that you know just as little as we do, now let the people genuinely interested in the Moors have a discussion without congesting the thread with negativity. :cool:

Ahh, no! I obviously know more than you. This thread was not about Moors. I didn't state my point. I stated facts that you and a few other refuse to believe. A black man was not the 1st President of the US!
 
You and alexw are acting like blunt right now. :smh:

why, because youre acting ignorant and have this huge need to believe in santa???

you only want to hear shit you agree with that doesnt have any basis on fact

common sense alone should get you past most of this bullshit

come on dude
 
Ahh, no! I obviously know more than you. This thread was not about Moors. I didn't state my point. I stated facts that you and a few other refuse to believe. A black man was not the 1st President of the US!
man you know the 1st president of the usa practiced islam

come on foreskin lover get with it

aslam malakum or however you spell that bullshit
 
I made my pic response to show that there has always been black Moors, you come back with this....



Never said they were. :lol: :smh: :lol: Like I said, yall niggas acting like blunt right now.
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youre going to try to win at something, huh?

context is a bitch but ok dude, u win

i didnt know there were black people in northern africa

damn!
 
Ahh, no! I obviously know more than you. This thread was not about Moors. I didn't state my point. I stated facts that you and a few other refuse to believe. A black man was not the 1st President of the US!

From the OP

I know this has been discussed a million times but I wanted to get some clarity. Was the 1st president of the US a black man... a moor named John Hanson? Feel free to laugh, joke and clown but I want concrete data supporting the truth.

From The File
A "Black" Man, A Moor, John Hanson
Was the First President of the United States! 1781-1782 A.D.George Washington
was really the 8th President of the United States!

Like I said, I don't know one way or the other whether dude was black, white, or green or whether he was the first black president. I came in this thread expecting to learn something and I wasn't convinced by either side. Dude came in humble and admitted his ignorance on the subject. You guys came in clowning but haven't added one useful thing to the thread.
 
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youre going to try to win at something, huh?

context is a bitch but ok dude, u win

i didnt know there were black people in northern africa

damn!

Bruh, i'm not trying to win at anything. If anything, i've admitted my ignorance on the subject numerous times in this thread. You, blunt, and bgque have been clowning the ENTIRE thread, but haven't added one scrap of anything to the thread. If you have anything to add on, add it. We're all trying to learn, but you two are just trolling right now. I thought both of you were cooler than that. :smh:
 
Bruh, i'm not trying to win at anything. If anything, i've admitted my ignorance on the subject numerous times in this thread. You, blunt, and bgque have been clowning the ENTIRE thread, but haven't added one scrap of anything to the thread. If you have anything to add on, add it. We're all trying to learn, but you two are just trolling right now. I thought both of you were cooler than that. :smh:

dude we've giving you plenty of facts that you choose to ignore

youre one of those bullheaded dudes that only wants to believe in your beliefs, regardless of how out there they are

when a so called historian came in here and fed you bullshit, you soaked that up though

but, even he was full of fallacy

carry on though
 
There are plenty of books...by white historians dating back decades...that attest to the fact that in early America, Moors held a very different designation in northern society than "blacks". "Ancient and Modern Britons" by David Mac Ritchie is a good one. Many Moors were prominent businessmen, architects, and yes...politicians. And the kingdom of Morocco was the first nation to formally enter into a treaty with the USA. As far as blacks not being able to read...this is something that was enacted after slavery began. The first group of African indentured servants in America, owned by the Dutch West India company, sued their "owners" for back pay and ownership of their children...and won. Not long after this laws were enacted that made it illegal to teach slaves to read or write...wonder why. Some of you brothers need to re-educate yourselves. We live in the information age...and I aint talkin about wikipedia. There is much truth about our history out there...in BOOKS...and there is no excuse to hold fast to the Euro-centric lies you've been taught unless you just choose to.

And for the brothers that continue to clown this thread...if it's causing nausea...why are you still posting? Do you have nothing better to do than puke on yourself? Oh...I forgot...this is a porn board. Maybe some of you ninjas are in to that type of shit.:smh:
 
It is also important...actually crucial...to note that Moors were not considered "negroes" or "blacks". They were Moors...it was a positive connotation. They were respected as men of distinction in early America. So much so, that free "blacks" who gained respect in society were often mistakenly referred to as Moors.
 
Alexw and bque12,
You cats really need to stop researching off the net. First of all, A lot of cats know who I am on this board and know I only comment when stating facts that I personally researched. I don't claim to be anyone other than who I am.
The very name Moor means black. It was a term used to describe a race of people. The Moors have always been black people or people of dark hue. Never have Moors been white. The Moors have not always been mainly arabic either. The Moors originated from the Olmec tribe of Northwest Africa in a place we now call Morocco. At one time, the Moors controlled most of eastern Europe and were the original kings of England. Shakespeare's Othello is based on this period of history.Although most Moroccan Moors today practice Islam, not all Moors are Muslim. The Catholic church was created by Moorish people and can be proven by artwork depicting the Madonna and baby Jesus as black as well as documents I've read personally. The first Pope of the Catholic Church was a black man.
You didn't really read my previous post as I stated that the Moors arrived in North America at least 150 years BEFORE the Europeans and slavery. It was the Moors who taught the Europeans how to survive in the climate of the Americas. If you remember your history, the first colonies died off because they didn't know how to live here. This is why the Moors were held in high esteem, they showed the whites how to live off the land.
I suggest if you are going to try to do some research, at least use a scholarly article written by researchers who know their shit instead of taking the bonehead route and looking at google or wikipedia. Those sites are for the lazy and easily fooled.
 
Alexw and bque12,
You cats really need to stop researching off the net. First of all, A lot of cats know who I am on this board and know I only comment when stating facts that I personally researched. I don't claim to be anyone other than who I am.
The very name Moor means black. It was a term used to describe a race of people. The Moors have always been black people or people of dark hue. Never have Moors been white. The Moors have not always been mainly arabic either. The Moors originated from the Olmec tribe of Northwest Africa in a place we now call Morocco. At one time, the Moors controlled most of eastern Europe and were the original kings of England. Shakespeare's Othello is based on this period of history.Although most Moroccan Moors today practice Islam, not all Moors are Muslim. The Catholic church was created by Moorish people and can be proven by artwork depicting the Madonna and baby Jesus as black as well as documents I've read personally. The first Pope of the Catholic Church was a black man.
You didn't really read my previous post as I stated that the Moors arrived in North America at least 150 years BEFORE the Europeans and slavery. It was the Moors who taught the Europeans how to survive in the climate of the Americas. If you remember your history, the first colonies died off because they didn't know how to live here. This is why the Moors were held in high esteem, they showed the whites how to live off the land.
I suggest if you are going to try to do some research, at least use a scholarly article written by researchers who know their shit instead of taking the bonehead route and looking at google or wikipedia. Those sites are for the lazy and easily fooled.
BTW AlexW, Morocco was the first country to recognize U.S. sovereignty. Look it up or google it if you wish:lol:
 
Bruh, i'm not trying to win at anything. If anything, i've admitted my ignorance on the subject numerous times in this thread. You, blunt, and bgque have been clowning the ENTIRE thread, but haven't added one scrap of anything to the thread. If you have anything to add on, add it. We're all trying to learn, but you two are just trolling right now. I thought both of you were cooler than that. :smh:

Show me where I was clowning anyone? If you are referring to the suicide icon, that was because dude... never mind. I'm done with this thread. Dude came in here talking about the Moors and a 150 years before slavery which has nothing to do with the thread. The bottom line is this Hanson was not black nor 1/2 black or anything close.
 
So who is the African American in the back of this 2 dollar bill again?
The Black Man on the Back of the 2 Dollar Bill is a WHITE MAN named ROBERT MORRIS.

Trumbull's painting is the source of the picture on the reverse of the two-dollar bill.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Morris_(financier)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumbull's_Declaration_of_Independence
 
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Two Different JOHN HANSONS.

This is a Senator in Liberia, not President of the Continental Congress
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http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/trr033.html

The President John Hanson's parents came to America as Indentured Servants from Europe. They could have Black Ancestry but if they did, they would surely want to keep that a secret in those days.
 
You, blunt, and bgque have been clowning the ENTIRE thread, but haven't added one scrap of anything to the thread.

Asshole, my FIRST two posts in this thread CLOSED it. What the fuck more is there to add beyond the actual FACTS?? All the rest of the shit in support of the OP's obviously uninformed premise has been willful ignorance, fantasy and crazy-ass wishful thinking. :smh:
 
Bro black masons have been discussing the John Hanson story long before the internet or picture of the black Hanson from Liberia ever played any part.

Im not saying they are right or wrong but im saying its my opinion that the black Hanson pic was thrown into the discussion to confuse people.

Then they are the ones doing the disservice to all. Every new cat that comes up then gets his "lesson" on the 2 dollar bill like it's some secret, not knowing its been debunked for DECADES. It's been proven false before young cat was BORN.
 
This thread could be an ideal candidate copied to the new "BLACK HISTORY FORUM"...

If only such a forum section existed....
 
If you all are searching for the 1st "Black" President of the USA i.e. a Black/Non-White Man that a large number of the Brotha's & Sista's in this thread and around America can relate to via History, adversities, etc; then you all might as well stop searching because we havent had one yet.

Every President that you all think was or is "Black" are products of White privilege.

Everyone thats your color aint your kind..keep that in mind.

Hey that rhymed!
...lol
 
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If you all are searching for the 1st "Black" President of the USA i.e. a Black/Non-White Man that a large number of the Brotha's & Sista's in this thread and around America can relate to via History, adversities, etc; then you all might as well stop searching because we havent had one yet.

Every President that you all think was or is "Black" are products of White privilege.

Everyone thats your color aint your kind..keep that in mind.

Hey that rhymed!
...lol

Chitown, you're my "G"... but I somewhat disagree... Please allow me some time to remember and collect my thoughts...
 
John Hanson was not Black; nor was he the first president of the United States—but how did so many people come to believe that Hanson was a Black man? The racial mislabeling of John Hanson seems to be a simple case of mistaken identity. Some have confused the colonial-era John Hanson with a politician from the African nation of Liberia who lived decades later in the mid-1800s. This Liberian John Hanson was notable for his involvement in the resettlement of former slaves in Africa. While this Liberian Hanson was indeed Black, he lived well after the Hanson of the Continental Congress.

But then there is the question of the portrait on the back of the $2 bill, where some say that John Hanson is depicted as a Black man. Well, the picture is an artist’s depiction of the scene at the signing of the Declaration of Independence in 1776 and shows several Caucasians in the room. One of those powder-wigged men depicted (the 12th from the left) appears darker than his colleagues, leading to speculation that it is their Black John Hanson.

But in reality, if there were Blacks in the room, they were slaves—not diplomats or politicians. In any event, the White John Hanson never signed the Declaration of Independence, so even if the engraver meant to depict a Black man (and he did not) it was someone other than Hanson.

Yet more confusion has been created by the existence of a photograph that clearly shows a man named John Hanson, and there is no doubt that he is a Black man. Our Liberian brother is the one in the photo, bespectacled, dignified, and of serious bearing. And there is one small technical issue that disqualifies him from being the first president: photography was invented around 1822, long after the 1783 death of the Caucasian Hanson and 23 years after George Washington took his last breath.
 
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