Joe Budden podcast done? No Rory or Mal for 2nd straight episode
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ice about to get ya
Agreed. 50 dropped in 03, around that time hip hop was stagnant. That was when the " hip.hop is dead" saying jumped off. Now compare that too 98 -2000 DMX era and look at the albums released during that time
but when you talk about a run. 50 brought the streets back.
ja rule and nelly it wasnt easy to just step in and go diamond as street rapper
and mona was right state prop was competition but they just didnt pop
same for camron and dipset
The conversation was about competition. When GRDT dropped hip hop was stagnant no competition. As I said look at the albums that came out when X dropped back to back....he had competition. Pun, Mob Deep , Em, Outkast, Nas, Dre, Mos Def etc
Not at all..take it with a grain of salt because its Joe but he has said numerous times that he never wants to work for someone else ever again
streets never left
50 first project didn't step in and go diamond - that took a awhile -and 50 wasn't everywhere before the album dropped
and 50 dropped ONE smash single
50 didn't have enough bandwidth to do 2 multi-platinum albums in a year either
vs
- X dropped during a really hot time on the streets and clubs
he dropped when Bad Boy still owned NYC radio and most major markets
right after J's Hard Knock Life went platinum, and the album was working mostly because of this single
How many smashes did X drop or feature on in 1998 alone?
why?
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i was joking lol
One thing about DMX vs. 50 is that when 50 came out rap started becoming more regional as well. You had Nelly over here in St. Louis, 50 was dominating East coast, I want to say 03 and 04 is when that "snap finger music" started coming out in the south, Kanye was running the midwest.
With DMX, his sound was just raw and in yo face and he did have more competition. Also correct me if I'm wrong, but as I recall, when Jay said that line "i can divide...1 album every 10 year" line on takeover, there were people that actually agreed with Jay on that. It was written and Nastramadus were not praised when it first came out. Not sure how people view it now, but I wouldn't really qualify Nas as having a "run".
GRODT was the largest debute album in rap at the time
what i meant is when x came he got rid of the shining suit era
when 50 came out ja and nelly was on top with nelly going diamond
50 brought gangsta rap back on top
Nelly was still popular though...i dont think st valentine day massacre was as good as Get Rich or Die Tryin though. Also "backpack rap" was coming into the mainstream
Nas is just different - but he did not have a run
LL had a run - Snoop had a run - Wu had a run - J had a small run etc
imo Nas came out at the toughest time - nyc 94 was crazier than 98 and the west had nationwide on lock
-still 94 was such a great year for hiphop music
also label politics - IMO Nas on Def Jam would have had a real run
but Sony/Columbia couldn't make the money on Nas projects like they could with other rappers
thanks to Large Professor and Search
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