Jameis Winston is the Black Tom Brady!!
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Not to mention that Florida State is killing opponents to the point that Winston isn't getting any PT past the 3rd quarter, while Manziel is putting up most of his numbers in the second half.
4TH Quarters Played per Heisman candidate through 9 games....
Source: Athlon Sports
McCarron - 7
Manziel - 6
Winston - 5
Mariota - 4
Petty - 3
And by the way, Texas A&M has one of the worst defenses in CFB, its not Manziel's fault that they can't stop anyone.
That's the only reason why he plays in the second half.
If he had a serviceable defense at best, he'd never play past the 3rd.
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But that helps him pad his stats. His team is always behind so he has to play the gunslinger and pass the ball all game to keep pace. That helps his cause not hurt it.
How can you pad stats when all of the games are close?
I thought padding stats happens when the game is out of hand?
Let's just dig deeper into this....
Total Yards:
1. Manziel (3,924)
2. Mariota (3,026)
3. Winston (2,818)
4. Petty (2,775)
5. AJ (2,019)
Total Yards Per Game:
1. Manziel (392.4)
2. Petty (346.9)
3. Mariota (336.2)
4. Winston (313.1)
5. AJ (224.3)
Total Passing Yards:
1. Manziel (3,313)
2. Winston (2,661)
3. Petty (2,657)
4. Mariota (2,531)
5. AJ (2,041)
Passing Yards Per Game:
1. Petty (332.1)
2. Manziel (331.3)
3. Winston (295.7)
4. Mariota (281)
5. AJ (226.7)
Total Rushing Yards:
1. Manziel (611)
2. Mariota (495)
3. Winston (157)
4. Petty (118)
5. AJ (-22)
Rushing Yards per Game:
1. Manziel (61)
2. Mariota (55)
3. Winston (17)
4. Petty (15)
5. AJ (negative 2)
Total TD's:
1. Manziel (39)
2. Mariota (31)
3. Winston (29)
4. Petty (29)
5. AJ (19)
Passing TD's:
1. Manziel (31)
2. Winston (26)
3. Mariota (22)
4. Petty (21)
5. AJ (19)
Rushing TD's:
1. Mariota (9)
2. Manziel (8)
2. Petty (8)
4. Winston (3)
5. AJ (zero)
Avg. TD's Per Game:
1. Manziel (3.9)
2. Petty (3.6)
3. Mariota (3.4)
4. Winston (3.2)
5. AJ (2.1)
Completion Percentage:
1. Manziel (230/315 = 73%)
2. McCarron (159/229 = 69.4%)
3. Winston (166/240 = 69.2%)
4. Petty (135/202 = 66.8%)
5. Mariota (164/259 = 63%)
Total Yards:
1. Manziel (3,924)
2. Mariota (3,026)
3. Winston (2,818)
4. Petty (2,775)
5. AJ (2,019)
Total Yards Per Game:
1. Manziel (392.4)
2. Petty (346.9)
3. Mariota (336.2)
4. Winston (313.1)
5. AJ (224.3)
Total Passing Yards:
1. Manziel (3,313)
2. Winston (2,661)
3. Petty (2,657)
4. Mariota (2,531)
5. AJ (2,041)
Passing Yards Per Game:
1. Petty (332.1)
2. Manziel (331.3)
3. Winston (295.7)
4. Mariota (281)
5. AJ (226.7)
Total Rushing Yards:
1. Manziel (611)
2. Mariota (495)
3. Winston (157)
4. Petty (118)
5. AJ (-22)
Rushing Yards per Game:
1. Manziel (61)
2. Mariota (55)
3. Winston (17)
4. Petty (15)
5. AJ (negative 2)
Total TD's:
1. Manziel (39)
2. Mariota (31)
3. Winston (29)
4. Petty (29)
5. AJ (19)
Passing TD's:
1. Manziel (31)
2. Winston (26)
3. Mariota (22)
4. Petty (21)
5. AJ (19)
Rushing TD's:
1. Mariota (9)
2. Manziel (8)
2. Petty (8)
4. Winston (3)
5. AJ (zero)
Avg. TD's Per Game:
1. Manziel (3.9)
2. Petty (3.6)
3. Mariota (3.4)
4. Winston (3.2)
5. AJ (2.1)
Completion Percentage:
1. Manziel (230/315 = 73%)
2. McCarron (159/229 = 69.4%)
3. Winston (166/240 = 69.2%)
4. Petty (135/202 = 66.8%)
5. Mariota (164/259 = 63%)
Florida State is at worst a one loss team without Winston because they're talented at every position.
Texas A&M easily would have 5 losses without Manziel with their schedule and conference.
That should tell you who the most valuable candidate is.
I am with you - Winston is the better NFL prospect, Manziel is currently the better college football player. However, he is not a better heisman candidate. Heisman looks at your actions on and off the field. They consider it a fraternity and perceived character matters. Thus, Maniziel is probably not gonna win due to his numerous fuck ups this summer.
It's Winston and it's not close dude
you're in here arguing a dude with 2 losses versus a dude with 0 loses.
a dude when faced with the toughest competition led his team to annihilate the competition.. as a freshman?
the one who's team is poised to be in the national championship after losing how many draft picks?
dude case keenum put up the yards and td's that manziel put up. he didn't put up the rushing because he had a bum knee.. how you think sumlin got the a&m job.
manuel is good, but he ain't do THIS with this team last year did he?
RG3 won the Heisman in 2011 with 3 losses.
Tebow won in 2007 with 3 losses.
What's your point?
Manziel's toughest game was against Alabama and amassed 558 yards total offense and 5 TDs.
Alabama has only given up 2 maybe 3 TDs since then.
Winston's toughest opponent was Clemson with only 444 total yards and 3 TDs.
Florida State doesn't rebuild, they reload.
Keenum's passing number were better than Manziel's.
Sumlin got the job because he's a great coach.
This years FSU team is WAY more talented.
Winston 2013 highlights
Yuuuup, he crushed the comp despite being left off 115 ballots.
Wondered how long before it got bumped.
First freshman of the BCS era to win a championship AND Heisman the same year
Winston had an historic season
Winston had an historic season
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