It's Time for Black America to Break Up With the Democratic Party | Opinion - Newsweek

[lazarus]

1. thats not a right...

2. what youre talking about generally falls under the heading of race based social privilege (which is more of a social structure/cultural thing than a law based right) since whiteness is the thing that supports all of it. Chappelle made the astute speculation that the ONLY reason the trans community has gotten this far on the subject is ONLY because WHITE MEN are doing it. If this was just an issue affecting mainly black and brown and women no one would give fuck and make that clear.

3.
PRESIDENTS WHO GOT LARGE MAJORITY BLACK SUPPORT IN US HISTORY:
Abraham Lincoln (R) Lincoln is credited with ending slavery - black support
Warren Harding (R) Harding is credited with signing anti lynching laws - black support
Franklin Roosevelt (D) FDR is credited with opening up aid and jobs during the depression - black support
Harry Truman (D) Truman ended segregation in military and ended bias in federal jobs - black support
John F. Kennedy (D) JFK gave the IMPRESSION he supported the Civil Rights Movements - black support
Lyndon B. Johnson (D) LBJ - signed Civil Rights Legislation - black support

The reason for blacks loyally voting for both parties at various times has to do with jobs, opportunity and dignity than race.

why the black vote tends to go to the party that has either done that or made a show of concern for doing that. And its telling that the last major piece of legislation that was signed with black people in mind happened 40 years ago and not much else. Blacks as a group should be more fluid in our vote and all candidates from local, state to federal should get a one and done deal from us. You get one term to show us what you can do for us and if nothing happens then you're gone. But that's about the CANDIDATE...NOT the party! Especially when you consider that of the ONLY TWO major political parties in the damn country...one is actively trying to discourage you from voting period! Something NO ONE on your side of this debate cares to talk about. (wonder why )

What makes the issues on the board so infuriating is this notion that black people are making decisions blindly when in fact black America is doing today what we've always done...try to make the best decision out of a fucked up situation. Its easy to look back in hindsight and say they did this wrong or that wrong but no one living today would do any better back then either.

1. not to us, it is for them. white privilege is not on the books. you think it doesn't exist?
2. it's only gotten this far because the dems push that agenda forward, stepping over black issues like they have the last 60 years.
3. you can't be serious.
blacks weren't even voting in masses for half that list. you think slaves were out there for voting for lincoln? lol. this dude.
also, you stopped at the 60s. if you noticed in all my arguments, i said the last 60 years. you are making false equivalent arguments. now update that list.
It is the party at a national level. If your local democrat is doing shit for you, vote for him. I speak in generalities, not one offs. This whole argument is generally on a national level.

 

[lazarus]

Im still waiting...

so am i. i asked my question first. No more moving the goal post now. Answer my question and I will then answer yours.

 

[geechiedan]

1. not to us, it is for them. white privilege is not on the books. you think it doesn't exist?
2. it's only gotten this far because the dems push that agenda forward, stepping over black issues like they have the last 60 years.
3. you can't be serious.
blacks weren't even voting in masses for half that list. you think slaves were out there for voting for lincoln? lol. this dude.
also, you stopped at the 60s. if you noticed in all my arguments, i said the last 60 years. you are making false equivalent arguments. now update that list.
It is the party at a national level. If your local democrat is doing shit for you, vote for him. I speak in generalities, not one offs. This whole argument is generally on a national level.

1. Dude at the end of the day the trans community is buttressed by whiteness in white america.... it is what it is.. if you think you can achieve that "right" for nonwhites...go for it.

2. Soo...at the end of the day youre talking about liberal white men pushing the issue. And we're back to square one.

3. I said black support and yes there were some blacks who could and did vote at that time. Read a history book dude. oh...youre talking about withholding your vote at the national level...this is the same bullshit VAiz4hustlaz pushed a couple years ago based on some fantasy bullshit his boy eddie glaude jr. said at a book reading back in 2016..all that happened was trump got elected...how did that work out for black people???? I'll wait....

 

[lazarus]

1. Dude at the end of the day the trans community is buttressed by whiteness in white america.... it is what it is.. if you think you can achieve that "right" for nonwhites...go for it.

2. Soo...at the end of the day youre talking about liberal white men pushing the issue. And we're back to square one.

3. I said black support and yes there were some blacks who could and did vote at that time. Read a history book dude. oh...youre talking about withholding your vote at the national level...this is the same bullshit VAiz4hustlaz pushed a couple years ago based on some fantasy bullshit his boy eddie glaude jr. said at a book reading back in 2016..all that happened was trump got elected...how did that work out for black people???? I'll wait....

1. wrong. its not strengthened by whiteness. be specific. repub whites don't want that shit. it's dem whites.
2. the same white men that black supporting dems support. you don't even realize chappelle is clowning the bullshit of the democrat party.
3. most blacks didn't even know what was going on for the most part to have support. they were on plantations and trying to get by. you need to read a history book because you still haven't given me notable progress since the 60s. and how is supporting the same party not doing anything for you for that long a good move?
i have no idea what you are referring to with another poster and some book. I didn't say that so stick to the argument.

 

[geechiedan]

1. wrong. its not strengthened by whiteness. be specific. repub whites don't want that shit. it's dem whites.
2. the same white men that black supporting dems support. you don't even realize chappelle is clowning the bullshit of the democrat party.
3. most blacks didn't even know what was going on for the most part to have support. they were on plantations and trying to get by. you need to read a history book because you still haven't given me notable progress since the 60s. and how is supporting the same party not doing anything for you for that long a good move?
i have no idea what you are referring to with another poster and some book. I didn't say that so stick to the argument.

and the GOP just stood by and let that shit go down...meanwhile when it came to CRT and abortion rights those same motherfuckers formed a conservative VOLTRON to create laws to stop that shit...

chappelle clowns everyone...but what you don't realize is that chappelle votes democrat...

reread what I posted...Blacks as a group should be more fluid in our vote and all candidates from local, state to federal should get a one and done deal from us. You get one term to show us what you can do for us and if nothing happens then you're gone. But that's about the CANDIDATE...NOT the party! Especially when you consider that of the ONLY TWO major political parties in the damn country...one is actively trying to discourage you from voting period! Something NO ONE on your side of this debate cares to talk about. (wonder why )

still waiting.....

 

[Entrepronegro]

 

[Soul On Ice]

Stay on these boot lickers necks Lazarus!

 

[xfactor]

So you think republicans will start pandering for black people's vote?
Yes the parties switched but do you know why the parties switched?

The parties never switched. Another liie that the sheep fall for.

 

[geechiedan]

The parties never switched. Another liie that the sheep fall for.

here's a question...why is it that white racists and supremist usually fall into rightwing politically and generally vote conservative??

Do you realize that thru out American history conservatism has been at the heart of all the strife and conflict we've had? yes democrats created the kkk and fought to keep slavery BUT what no one on the right likes to mention is that the GOP during the 1800s was liberal/progressive compared to the Democrats who were decidedly conservative. Here's a political poster from the period

1860s conservative democrat vs the 1860s radical republican...To support abolitionism IS progressive and liberal...to support civil rights for nonwhites IS progressive and liberal. To want to maintain the status quo of how America has worked even as it means other Americans are excluded is conservative. So the mindset of how minorities and others are perceived and treated in a negative way has ALWAYS been how conservatives have acted regardless of whether they were called democrats (the early-mid to late 1800s to mid-1900s) or republicans (from the late 60s to today)

Todays GOP uses the terms liberal and progressive as pejoratives and derogatorily, betraying the liberal/progressive roots of their party while deluding themselves into believing this generation of republicans are like the ones of the 1800s..that's a joke. Saint Reagan wouldn't be considered a good republican by today's standards.

And the ONLY reason we've come so far is because liberals and progressives dragged the conservatives kicking and screaming into the future.

 

[AllUniverse17]

so am i. i asked my question first. No more moving the goal post now. Answer my question and I will then answer yours.

FOH, read our exchange again, I have asked several questions and you have answered none.

But I will answer your question anyway.

What have they done for me so far?

They have handled the pandemic in a better way then the repubs would have. They are talking about whats really going on, telling people to be safe and how, helping people stay safe, arent at war with Fauci and every scientific stats that come out.

The Child Tax credit can go a long way in helping the black community imho. Not something we ever could have gotten with the Republicans in charge.

Could they do way better? Hell yes.

Do I regret my vote? Hell no, because one party was getting in either way. Im gonna vote for the party I believe will do a better job.

Do I only look at progress as specific laws created ONLY for black peeps? No I dont. Those would be ideal in some ways but they are not the only measure of progress.

 

[BigATLslim]

Why is it that tearing up the Democrat party is always suggested but never the coons that re republicans? How about we tear up all political parties and say fuck them? Why the fuck we still segregating ourselves by parties that were built to keep us down anyway?

Black Americans overly index for voting Democrat, not Republican.
I agree with your second question.

Indoctrination under the system of white s*primacy is a helluva drug.

But no mention of the Republikkklan party full of coons and Neo Nazis who pretend that racism isn’t real. Riiiight. Let’s focus on the democrats even though there are thousands of Black local Dems who fight for Black issues . Yeah let’s break up and all vote for who?

We are not looking for a axis and coons anyway.

Truth be told, it’s more coins that vote Democrat than Republican just due to the sheer numbers of Blacks over indexing for Democratic votes.

What we have to understand is that both parties are anti-Black Progress. We need to create our own party. Yes, there's going to be growing pains. Yes, there's going to be infighting. And, yes, there's going to be coonery.

But once we hash all of this shit out, we'll be a force to be reckoned with. We have to have a mechanism in place to remove these MoFos quickly if they do not adhere to our agendas as well. No more of that four year shit. If we want you to vote yes, then your ass had better vote yes. If we say vote no, then it's no. No more back door side deals.

Our thoughts and votes are divided, and that alone benefits white supremacy.

This is the ONLY solution and we do not collectively have the strategy or intestinal fortitude to see this pass through.

It’s NOT going to look like the process since 1776 or 1968 but we keep doing the same shit expecting something different in a system that was NEVER, EVER designed for us to be wholly successful in.

There is really no need for blacks people to walk away from democrats.

My beef with black people is that we vote 90% for 1 party and they don’t do shit once they get in office. It’s a slap in the face that they prioritize every other group from the LGBT to wanting to give $450,000 for illegal immigrants. While the black community gets nothing.

And when you tell black people that we need to be swing voters and vote for neither party until they offer tangibles. These stupid negros want to say that your a racist or republicans will win?

Like so what your not getting shit anyways? Why not be smart and leverage your vote. Why be loyal to 1 party that does absolutely nothing for blacks people and the black community but lip service.

This can be said of the Republicans too.

It’s RACE and CLASS and GENDER and we have no strategy.

 

[Supersav]

FOH, read our exchange again, I have asked several questions and you have answered none.

But I will answer your question anyway.

What have they done for me so far?

They have handled the pandemic in a better way then the repubs would have. They are talking about whats really going on, telling people to be safe and how, helping people stay safe, arent at war with Fauci and every scientific stats that come out.

The Child Tax credit can go a long way in helping the black community imho. Not something we ever could have gotten with the Republicans in charge.

Could they do way better? Hell yes.

Do I regret my vote? Hell no, because one party was getting in either way. Im gonna vote for the party I believe will do a better job.

Do I only look at progress as specific laws created ONLY for black peeps? No I dont. Those would be ideal in some ways but they are not the only measure of progress.

Lmao the child tax credit would help if it was permanent. It's over now so explain how

 

[AllUniverse17]

Lmao the child tax credit would help if it was permanent. It's over now so explain how

Who is working to make it permanent?

You want it both ways. Give no credit to the Dems for creating it and give no blame to the Repubs for trying to kill it.

Its ridiculous.

 

[lazarus]

and the GOP just stood by and let that shit go down...meanwhile when it came to CRT and abortion rights those same motherfuckers formed a conservative VOLTRON to create laws to stop that shit...

chappelle clowns everyone...but what you don't realize is that chappelle votes democrat...

reread what I posted...Blacks as a group should be more fluid in our vote and all candidates from local, state to federal should get a one and done deal from us. You get one term to show us what you can do for us and if nothing happens then you're gone. But that's about the CANDIDATE...NOT the party! Especially when you consider that of the ONLY TWO major political parties in the damn country...one is actively trying to discourage you from voting period! Something NO ONE on your side of this debate cares to talk about. (wonder why )

still waiting.....

more stupidity. saying it loud doesn't make it better. black people should stop voting for a party that doesn't yield results. period. you seem to agree. so stop voting for democratic presidential candidate. I never said anything about local politics and that just shows you that you moved the goal post because you can't defend voting for shit that hasn't changed. Yes, the repubs haven't done anything too. That's why you don't vote for them either. You brought that up as if that can help your argument but it's consistent with mine. You are out your element. You're just brainwashed to lick white ass and be democrat.

 

[lazarus]

FOH, read our exchange again, I have asked several questions and you have answered none.

But I will answer your question anyway.

What have they done for me so far?

They have handled the pandemic in a better way then the repubs would have. They are talking about whats really going on, telling people to be safe and how, helping people stay safe, arent at war with Fauci and every scientific stats that come out.

The Child Tax credit can go a long way in helping the black community imho. Not something we ever could have gotten with the Republicans in charge.

Could they do way better? Hell yes.

Do I regret my vote? Hell no, because one party was getting in either way. Im gonna vote for the party I believe will do a better job.

Do I only look at progress as specific laws created ONLY for black peeps? No I dont. Those would be ideal in some ways but they are not the only measure of progress.

They handled the pandemic better? LOL. It's a shit show but ok, how is that helping blacks specifically? That's why you voted because you want to feel good about the pandemic?

Child tax credit only helps single black women because the majority of our households are built that way. They ain't giving shit to the men paying child support. They are the ones that could use the money. Also, this further divides the black man and woman because the woman depends on the govt than the man. That's why only 25% of black women are married. This further divides the black family. But you're too stupid to see this.


now what's your dumb ass question?

 

[shaddyvillethug]

They handled the pandemic better? LOL. It's a shit show but ok, how is that helping blacks specifically? That's why you voted because you want to feel good about the pandemic?

Child tax credit only helps single black women because the majority of our households are built that way. They ain't giving shit to the men paying child support. They are the ones that could use the money. Also, this further divides the black man and woman because the woman depends on the govt than the man. That's why only 25% of black women are married. This further divides the black family. But you're too stupid to see this.


now what's your dumb ass question?

Keep the pressha on that nigga neck

 

[tebriel69]

How would we go about creating our own party? 3rd party candidates generally get little to know support. Bernie don’t count. He’s a self proclaimed socialist which is just an ultra extreme version of democracy. Other countries have multiple parties but I just can’t see that working here. You’d have to have a rockstar like an Obama to be the face of said new party or it wouldn’t go anywhere. It’d be like pat Buchanan and his lifetime movie like ads that ran once a day in passing on major news networks.
My point is this, if we can’t get a 3rd party and the 2 major parties do nothing for us, wtf are we supposed to do? Not voting could be a thing but after all our folk went through just to get that right, you may as well piss on they grave, which I refuse to do. I dread voting and candidate research but what else is there?

 

[AllUniverse17]

They handled the pandemic better? LOL. It's a shit show but ok, how is that helping blacks specifically? That's why you voted because you want to feel good about the pandemic?

Child tax credit only helps single black women because the majority of our households are built that way. They ain't giving shit to the men paying child support. They are the ones that could use the money. Also, this further divides the black man and woman because the woman depends on the govt than the man. That's why only 25% of black women are married. This further divides the black family. But you're too stupid to see this.


now what's your dumb ass question?

Yes, black people's health matters to me, therefore how the pandemic is handled matters to me. Are you under the impression that we are immune to this virus??? Smh... Thats literally the dumbest thing you could have said.

Your CTC comment is also hilarious. But Im not suprised you are one of those dudes who hate black women.

When's the last time that the GOP supported any social issue that is dear to the black community?

 

[Supersav]

Who is working to make it permanent?

You want it both ways. Give no credit to the Dems for creating it and give no blame to the Repubs for trying to kill it.

Its ridiculous.

Neither side is working to make it permanent.

 

[Supersav]

They handled the pandemic better? LOL. It's a shit show but ok, how is that helping blacks specifically? That's why you voted because you want to feel good about the pandemic?

Child tax credit only helps single black women because the majority of our households are built that way. They ain't giving shit to the men paying child support. They are the ones that could use the money. Also, this further divides the black man and woman because the woman depends on the govt than the man. That's why only 25% of black women are married. This further divides the black family. But you're too stupid to see this.


now what's your dumb ass question?

Fatality

 

[AllUniverse17]

Neither side is working to make it permanent.

Ok buddy.

Not because of reality, but just because you say so.

 

[Supersav]

Ok buddy.

Not because of reality, but just because you say so.

Simema and manchin are Democrats right?

 

[AllUniverse17]

Simema and manchin are Democrats right?

Of course they are.

 

[geechiedan]

more stupidity. saying it loud doesn't make it better. black people should stop voting for a party that doesn't yield results. period. you seem to agree. so stop voting for democratic presidential candidate. I never said anything about local politics and that just shows you that you moved the goal post because you can't defend voting for shit that hasn't changed. Yes, the repubs haven't done anything too. That's why you don't vote for them either. You brought that up as if that can help your argument but it's consistent with mine. You are out your element. You're just brainwashed to lick white ass and be democrat.

Hey moron what's the thread title say and you tell us if the OP makes a distinction between local and national politics?

Your "solution" is nothing but bitching and moaning and when thats exposed you resort to name calling and call that a debate response...shits like talking to a 15 year old which you very well may be for all we know.

You don't like a particular candidate fine....name ANOTHER candidate.. but this don't vote at all bullshit is stupid and you SHOULD know that..

 

[geechiedan]

There is really no need for blacks people to walk away from democrats.

My beef with black people is that we vote 90% for 1 party and they don’t do shit once they get in office. It’s a slap in the face that they prioritize every other group from the LGBT to wanting to give $450,000 for illegal immigrants. While the black community gets nothing.

And when you tell black people that we need to be swing voters and vote for neither party until they offer tangibles. These stupid negros want to say that your a racist or republicans will win?

Like so what your not getting shit anyways? Why not be smart and leverage your vote. Why be loyal to 1 party that does absolutely nothing for blacks people and the black community but lip service.

1. swing voters means voting for either parties in a given election....sometimes iowa goes blue...sometimes red...depends on how dem or rep candidate pulls them.. when was the last time in your lifetime did GOP candidates ever make serious efforts to pull the black vote???

2. leverage depends on BOTH sides wanting what you have. The GOP doesn't care about the black vote..theyre not vying for the black vote..if anything theyre actively trying to discourage the black vote. So where's the leverage??

3. Barkley is ONLY rich because he produced 25 points and 20 rebounds on a basketball court...thats it. How many other people can do that?

 

[forcesteeler]

1. swing voters means voting for either parties in a given election....sometimes iowa goes blue...sometimes red...depends on how dem or rep candidate pulls them.. when was the last time in your lifetime did GOP candidates ever make serious efforts to pull the black vote???

2. leverage depends on BOTH sides wanting what you have. The GOP doesn't care about the black vote..theyre not vying for the black vote..if anything theyre actively trying to discourage the black vote. So where's the leverage??

3. Barkley is ONLY rich because he produced 25 points and 20 rebounds on a basketball court...thats it. How many other people can do that?

So what’s your solution? Keep voting democrats and maybe 1 day they will do something for the black community?

We have been voting for democrats for 70 years and they have done nothing for the black community

It’s time we just be a neutral voter block and vote for neither party until they give up some tangibles.

I know some black people have a slave mentality and they just want to keep doing the same strategy they have been doing for decades and don’t have anything to show for it. Which is cool but I laugh when black people still complain and they don’t want to switch up there tactics. They just want to keep doing the same shit and expect some kind of change.

 

[Supersav]

So what’s your solution? Keep voting democrats and maybe 1 day they will do something for the black community?

We have been voting for democrats for 70 years and they have done nothing for the black community

It’s time we just be a neutral voter block and vote for neither party until they give up some tangibles.

I know some black people have a slave mentality and they just want to keep doing the same strategy they have been doing for decades and don’t have anything to show for it. Which is cool but I laugh when black people still complain and they don’t want to switch up there tactics. They just want to keep doing the same shit and expect some kind of change.

That's exactly what they are hoping

 

[geechiedan]

So what’s your solution? Keep voting democrats and maybe 1 day they will do something for the black community?

We have been voting for democrats for 70 years and they have done nothing for the black community

It’s time we just be a neutral voter block and vote for neither party until they give up some tangibles.

I know some black people have a slave mentality and they just want to keep doing the same strategy they have been doing for decades and don’t have anything to show for it. Which is cool but I laugh when black people still complain and they don’t want to switch up there tactics. They just want to keep doing the same shit and expect some kind of change.

Again with the insults.... .. what don't you understand about how leverage works?? if (by your contention) both parties are the same...then who gets punished by blacks not voting???

again..you don't like dem candidate then who DO you want in office???

 

[blackpepper]

Again with the insults.... .. what don't you understand about how leverage works?? if (by your contention) both parties are the same...then who gets punished by blacks not voting???

again..you don't like dem candidate then who DO you want in office???

Preciate you dude. They're heavy in this thread. I know it can be exhausting.

 

[BKF]

Voting is a part of the process and not the solution. Yet you don't vote, then go to sleep. No... the real work starts after you've voted.
As I said previously. The problem is people don't want to put the work into get what they want or feel they need.
So the easier solution is to not vote to begin with. That way you can pretend you're actually doing something without actually doing anything but bitching and moaning.
Then pretend like you are the highly enlightened one with the third eye.

in every town in this country there are public meetings for local governments but very few people show up.
So you have a majority of people bitching and moaning and just a handful actually pressing those elected officials. So if you don't vote, if you don't show up to local meeting, etc.... you have given them the approval to do what they want.
What folks don't get is whether you vote or not...someone will still be "elected"/installed anyways. Yet voting in the primaries and in the general gives you a chance to select who will best (out of the choices available) to best represent you.

 

[BigATLslim]

I'll say this. The democratic party is hard to love but it's a party that black folk can work with. The people just have to get involved with politics, instead of running away from it. It's no different than being involved in your child's education, upbringing, etc... The child is only going to be as good as the parent/s raise them to be. So just voting and disappearing afterwords is setting up failure.

One thing the republican voters are good at is driving their politicians to do what they want but at the same time the republican party is pretty much monolithic. Whereas the democratic party is made up of many different factions competing to be heard and be the voice of a big complex machine.

So what you have to do is start with your local government/party by holding those folks accountable. Forcing them to hold the national government/party accountable. If the local government does not do what you want. Then you should always have someone ready to replace that person or persons.


Yet the problem is that takes work and most people aren't willing to do the work. So it's easier to walk away. Yet then what?

And therein lies why Republicans party works and the Democratic doesn’t: it’s a monolith, a movement, a unit.

Let these whites folks have both parties.

We either create our own Indigenous African/Black Nationalist Party or invade and take over the Green Party or Independent Party and the whites brave enough to stay on, get positioned by us to do our bidding, then we toss ‘em.

But tryna pass legislation for anybody not white male/female and straight ain’t happening unless we control it from local, then state.

Quite frankly, fck the federal government. It’s a dog and pony show unless you are a vendor.

It will never happen on a large scale. There are too many black people (local politicians, board members, consultants) who make too much with/and/for the Democratic party to ever leave it. Hell in the county I'm in here in Georgia, the sheriff, the D.A., the Tax Commissioner, 3 of the 4 county commissioners plus the chairwoman are all black and all Democrats. Yall think they going to leave the party and go independent, because they can't go Republican.

Politicians can all be swayed by a title some money and a little power.

We tell ‘em that they can have that under a different name andwe got’em.

That sounds good in theory but in practice not so much.

Because its a 2 party system and one party doesnt want your vote.

I don’t know why we are not able to see beyond this system.

This country started out with a non binary political system. It did not become binary until the last century, yet we don’t know how to think beyond it and dismantle it.

I had people in my family live longer than America just having R’s and D’s.

I am really getting the impression here, social media, and my real life that we as Black people are not necessarily interested in doing what it takes for true freedom.

I think we want better access to capitalism and the two are not the same.

I ain't here to argue about the shit
he stands by what happened.
Not gonna get rid of student debt

It always comes down to vote to save the country FOR EVERYONE ELSE'S BENEFIT

And that’s exactly the psychological mind fck we tryna fix. Cat’s is just in denial about this sh!t.

An independant party is on order...not the current one

I can dig it.

They hold them accountable by doing the same thing the Tea Party did to republicans who didn't do what they wanted. They voted them out and ran people from within their coalition without forming their own separate party. Which in turn made the republican party as a whole start kowtowing towards their agenda.

Frankly, we could learn from them.
They EXECUTED a strategy.
They have a blueprint.

We also need to break up with the Obama's

They was just associates to me anyway, but I hear you.

 

[Supersav]

And therein lies why Republicans party works and the Democratic doesn’t: it’s a monolith, a movement, a unit.

Let these whites folks have both parties.

We either create our own Indigenous African/Black Nationalist Party or invade and take over the Green Party or Independent Party and the whites brave enough to stay on, get positioned by us to do our bidding, then we toss ‘em.

But tryna pass legislation for anybody not white male/female and straight ain’t happening unless we control it from local, then state.

Quite frankly, fck the federal government. It’s a dog and pony show unless you are a vendor.

Politicians can all be swayed by a title some money and a little power.

We tell ‘em that they can have that under a different name andwe got’em.


I don’t know why we are not able to see beyond this system.

This country started out with a non binary political system. It did not become binary until the last century, yet we don’t know how to think beyond it and dismantle it.

I had people in my family live longer than America just having R’s and D’s.

I am really getting the impression here, social media, and my real life that we as Black people are not necessarily interested in doing what it takes for true freedom.

I think we want better access to capitalism and the two are not the same.

And that’s exactly the psychological mind fck we tryna fix. Cat’s is just in denial about this sh!t.

I can dig it.

Frankly, we could learn from them.
They EXECUTED a strategy.
They have a blueprint.

They was just associates to me anyway, but I hear you.

Agree with everything you said. Others won't because they are stuck in this system and can't see life without this capitalistic system.

 

[lazarus]

Yes, black people's health matters to me, therefore how the pandemic is handled matters to me. Are you under the impression that we are immune to this virus??? Smh... Thats literally the dumbest thing you could have said.

Your CTC comment is also hilarious. But Im not suprised you are one of those dudes who hate black women.

When's the last time that the GOP supported any social issue that is dear to the black community?

no one said anything about immunity. now you are just creating arguments because you have nothing else. your whole argument is something that benefits everybody in general, not just black people.

the GOP hasn't. If you are actually reading what I'm saying, I'm saying not to vote for them either. You keep injecting the GOP as if it helps your argument when you are only validating what I'm saying.

Then you try to shame with the hate black women. That's what a bish would do. What I said is truth and if you stopped acting beta and want the best for black families, you would see it.

 

[lazarus]

Hey moron what's the thread title say and you tell us if the OP makes a distinction between local and national politics?

Your "solution" is nothing but bitching and moaning and when thats exposed you resort to name calling and call that a debate response...shits like talking to a 15 year old which you very well may be for all we know.

You don't like a particular candidate fine....name ANOTHER candidate.. but this don't vote at all bullshit is stupid and you SHOULD know that..

Because in most areas of local politics, the dem party is failing. If your local area isn't, then vote for the CANDIDATE that helps your community. However, the majority are not. You get the difference? My goodness. I didn't think I had to break that down to a 5th grade level.

You still don't understand that it doesn't matter about the candidates for face value. You make the politician cater to get your vote. Now continue to vote for someone that doesn't do shit.

 

[AllUniverse17]

no one said anything about immunity. now you are just creating arguments because you have nothing else. your whole argument is something that benefits everybody in general, not just black people.

the GOP hasn't. If you are actually reading what I'm saying, I'm saying not to vote for them either. You keep injecting the GOP as if it helps your argument when you are only validating what I'm saying.

Then you try to shame with the hate black women. That's what a bish would do. What I said is truth and if you stopped acting beta and want the best for black families, you would see it.

1. Why havent they?

2. You cant even keep your bullshit straight.

You literally said:

if repubs see a weakness, they will exploit it, meaning catering to us.

Post #272.

You just here talking shit, havent thought anything through and arent educated on the issues. Try to keep your story straight this time.