It's Time for Black America to Break Up With the Democratic Party | Opinion - Newsweek

[BKF]

Was this posted on this BGOL?

I know some people hate putting things in context (they just like slogans and quick tweets) but here's some context.

Fact check: Southern Dems held up 1964 Civil Rights Act, set filibuster record at 60 days

The 1964 Civil Rights Act passed only after Southern legislators launched a filibuster against it to try to prevent its passage. It lasted 60 days.

www.usatoday.com

"A June 20, 1964, New York Daily News article about the passage said 46 Democrats and 27 Republicans were in favor of the bill, while 21 Democrats, all from Southern or border states, opposed it along with six Republicans."

"It is true that the Democrats hold the record for the longest filibuster. But there are a couple of aspects of the exact claim that are false or misleading. It wasn't 75 days long; it lasted only 60 days. And there should be a distinction made in exactly who was blocking the bill. The majority of Democrats who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act were from Southern states; some Democrats in non-Southern states did support the bill."

How the ‘Party of Lincoln’ Won Over the Once Democratic South | HISTORY

Democratic defectors, known as the “Dixiecrats,” started a switch to the Republican party in a movement that was later fueled by a so-called "Southern strategy."

www.history.com

"The night that Democratic President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, his special assistant Bill Moyers was surprised to find the president looking melancholy in his bedroom. Moyers later wrote that when he asked what was wrong, Johnson replied, “I think we just delivered the South to the Republican party for a long time to come.”

It may seem a crude remark to make after such a momentous occasion, but it was also an accurate prediction.

To understand some of the reasons the South went from a largely Democratic region to a primarily Republican area today, just follow the decades of debate over racial issues in the United States."


"Up until the post-World War II period, the party’s hold on the region was so entrenched that Southern politicians usually couldn’t get elected unless they were Democrats. But when President Harry S. Truman, a Democratic Southerner, introduced a pro-civil rights platform at the party’s 1948 convention, a faction walked out.

These defectors, known as the “Dixiecrats,” held a separate convention in Birmingham, Alabama. There, they nominated South Carolina Governor Strom Thurmond, a staunch opposer of civil rights, to run for president on their “States’ Rights” ticket. Although Thurmond lost the election to Truman, he still won over a million popular votes.

It “was the first time since before the Civil War that the South was not solidly Democratic,” Goldfield says. “And that began the erosion of the southern influence in the Democratic party.”

 

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It's Time for Black America to Break Up With the Democratic Party | Opinion
PAMELA DENISE LONG , TRAINER AND CONSULTANT FOR IMPLEMENTING TRAUMA-INFORMED CARE AND ANTI-RACISM
ON 11/15/21 AT 9:34 AM EST


In all the autopsies of the Democrats' recent shellacking at the polls, a crucial storyline has been left out: the large gains the Republicans made with Black Americans in Virginia. Republican Glenn Youngkin, Virginia's new governor, received historic levels of Black support, turning Trump's gains with Black Americans from an aberration into a trend.

The truth is, all is not well between Black America and the Democratic Party, and the November 2021 election night results might very well turn out to be the rumblings of a breakup that is long overdue.

In Black America, there is a growing contempt for an influential far Left that talks a "woke" game on diversity and appropriates our struggle in their ads and talking points but offers our communities little beyond the feeling of inclusion. Far-Left agenda items like Abolish ICE, Defund the Police and other "social justice" mainstays make use of provocative wordsmithing to commodify the Black American experience of racial exclusion while providing career and other benefits to white liberals.

The truth is, white liberals have for the last 30 years used Black American civil rights wins to advance their own agendas. They've implemented destructive criminal justice laws and incomplete education paradigms. They have conflated discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender with the horror of anti-Black racism. They have prioritized immigrants and those they presume are legitimate refugees at our expense, distributing redress and now possibly even Reparations to those who knowingly broke U.S. immigration laws.


While progressives accuse the Right of not talking about anti-Black racism, when the Left does talk about anti-Black racism, they do so to use our pain, not for our benefit. They treat Black Americans like mascots rather than partners. You can tell by the mission creep: Notice how articles, speeches, and advocacy start by talking about Black women or Black people as the recipients of harm—and then shift to "people of color," naming a laundry list of identity groups in their proposed redress. Think of Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's offensive appropriating quip: "I always say Latinos are Black!"


At best, the marriage between Black Americans and Democrats has been an arranged one; back when Republicans and Democrats switched costumes, Nixon-era Republicans were so uncomfortable with Black Americans that the "lesser of two evils" became the Black American way. But that code of conduct has since lost its utility. Consider that it was Republican President Donald Trump whose First Step Act released thousands of Black men from prison—men put there by Democrats' crime bill, pushed by our very own Democratic President Biden. Consider the economy under Trump, the historically low levels of Black unemployment. But on behalf of Democrats who use and ignore us, we were supposed to see in Trump an enemy. Thus, Joe Biden campaigning on the message that a Black American who doesn't know if they want to vote for him "ain't really Black."

Today, it's commonplace for white liberals to use hysterical language about white supremacy to gain audience and traction, mobilizing far-reaching "woke" narratives that further erase Black Americans and descendants of U.S. slaves and deny us the chance to advocate for ourselves and receive tangible resources that would improve our lives.

The Left-leaning paternalism of white liberals is even more sinister because they claim to advocate for "the oppressed," using the Black American experience to credential their platforms while supplying little of substance to Black America. Every social justice effort since the 1960's Negro civil rights movement owes its success to its use of the descendants of slaves. Yet those who rise to prominence and status do not necessarily prioritize results for Black American citizens in general and they certainly do not funnel tangible resources directly to our communities.

That is the liberal way: Use Black American pain to demonize the Right and make yourself feel virtuous—then prioritize every other group but us. It's not just the elected elite and academics, either; these appropriations of the Black American experience happen in everyday life, especially in non-profit workspaces where Black women's expertise is used to credential clueless white leadership structures that capitalize on Black marginalization rather than implementing a vision to end it. In too many spaces, Black non-profit workers have job security until they advocate for the interests of Black people and speak up for fairness in the organization's culture.

The Black leader who justifies his/her silence about Black America's specific needs and lends his or her body to justify white liberal abandonment; the white conservative who repels Black voters from the Republican Party because of racial bias or policies that closely resemble racism in action; the white liberal who is too enamored with their own sense of relative white goodness to notice (or care) that they are hurting Black America via a perverted appropriation of social justice: These are all part of the problem.

For each, the question hanging in the air from Black America is a simple one: "What have you done for me lately?" And the answer is, "Not a damn thing."

There should be hell to pay for that. Black Americans and descendants of slaves in particular should partner with political stakeholders based on values and economic outcomes rather than something as blind as party affiliation. This should be too obvious to say aloud, and I believe that soon it will be.

As a seventh-generation freedom loving American and a descendant of U.S. slaves, the new code of political conduct should be, if we don't eat, then nobody eats, and may those who take from our plate choke on what they've stolen.

It's time for Black Americans to break up with the Democratic Party. If they want our votes, let them earn them.

Pamela Denise Long is CEO of Youthcentrix® Therapy Services, a business focused on helping organizations implement trauma-informed practices and diversity, equity, inclusion, and antiracism (DEIA) at the systems level. Denise is creator of "Humane Antiracism," an online training process that puts dialogue and relationships at the center of antiracist problem solving within networks. Connect with Ms. Long online at www.youthcentrix.com or @YOUTHCENTRIX on social media.

It's Time for Black America to Break Up With the Democratic Party

All is not well between Black America and the Democratic Party; the November 2021 election night results are the rumblings of a breakup that is long overdue.

www.newsweek.com

It always has to be a group decision

Niggaahz can't be republicans on their own.....

 

[dugington]

Fact check: Southern Dems held up 1964 Civil Rights Act, set filibuster record at 60 days

The 1964 Civil Rights Act passed only after Southern legislators launched a filibuster against it to try to prevent its passage. It lasted 60 days.

www.usatoday.com

"Up until the post-World War II period, the party’s hold on the region was so entrenched that Southern politicians usually couldn’t get elected unless they were Democrats. But when President Harry S. Truman, a Democratic Southerner, introduced a pro-civil rights platform at the party’s 1948 convention, a faction walked out.

This is what I was referring to in my first reply.

 

[michigantoga]

What we have to understand is that both parties are anti-Black Progress. We need to create our own party. Yes, there's going to be growing pains. Yes, there's going to be infighting. And, yes, there's going to be coonery.

But once we hash all of this shit out, we'll be a force to be reckoned with. We have to have a mechanism in place to remove these MoFos quickly if they do not adhere to our agendas as well. No more of that four year shit. If we want you to vote yes, then your ass had better vote yes. If we say vote no, then it's no. No more back door side deals.

Our thoughts and votes are divided, and that alone benefits white supremacy.

This

 

[Mixd]

I know some people hate putting things in context (they just like slogans and quick tweets) but here's some context.

Fact check: Southern Dems held up 1964 Civil Rights Act, set filibuster record at 60 days

The 1964 Civil Rights Act passed only after Southern legislators launched a filibuster against it to try to prevent its passage. It lasted 60 days.

www.usatoday.com

"A June 20, 1964, New York Daily News article about the passage said 46 Democrats and 27 Republicans were in favor of the bill, while 21 Democrats, all from Southern or border states, opposed it along with six Republicans."

"It is true that the Democrats hold the record for the longest filibuster. But there are a couple of aspects of the exact claim that are false or misleading. It wasn't 75 days long; it lasted only 60 days. And there should be a distinction made in exactly who was blocking the bill. The majority of Democrats who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act were from Southern states; some Democrats in non-Southern states did support the bill."

How the ‘Party of Lincoln’ Won Over the Once Democratic South | HISTORY

Democratic defectors, known as the “Dixiecrats,” started a switch to the Republican party in a movement that was later fueled by a so-called "Southern strategy."

www.history.com

"The night that Democratic President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, his special assistant Bill Moyers was surprised to find the president looking melancholy in his bedroom. Moyers later wrote that when he asked what was wrong, Johnson replied, “I think we just delivered the South to the Republican party for a long time to come.”

It may seem a crude remark to make after such a momentous occasion, but it was also an accurate prediction.

To understand some of the reasons the South went from a largely Democratic region to a primarily Republican area today, just follow the decades of debate over racial issues in the United States."


"Up until the post-World War II period, the party’s hold on the region was so entrenched that Southern politicians usually couldn’t get elected unless they were Democrats. But when President Harry S. Truman, a Democratic Southerner, introduced a pro-civil rights platform at the party’s 1948 convention, a faction walked out.

These defectors, known as the “Dixiecrats,” held a separate convention in Birmingham, Alabama. There, they nominated South Carolina Governor Strom Thurmond, a staunch opposer of civil rights, to run for president on their “States’ Rights” ticket. Although Thurmond lost the election to Truman, he still won over a million popular votes.

It “was the first time since before the Civil War that the South was not solidly Democratic,” Goldfield says. “And that began the erosion of the southern influence in the Democratic party.”

OK wasn't 75 days, just 60

 

[dugington]

What we have to understand is that both parties are anti-Black Progress. We need to create our own party. Yes, there's going to be growing pains. Yes, there's going to be infighting. And, yes, there's going to be coonery.

But once we hash all of this shit out, we'll be a force to be reckoned with. We have to have a mechanism in place to remove these MoFos quickly if they do not adhere to our agendas as well. No more of that four year shit. If we want you to vote yes, then your ass had better vote yes. If we say vote no, then it's no. No more back door side deals.

Our thoughts and votes are divided, and that alone benefits white supremacy.

This is a logical response I can get with.
But I just don't see the two party system going anywhere.
And as such, repubs would love it. Dems would be the only ones promising to do shit for us.....again.

 

[BKF]

This is a logical response I can get with.
But I just don't see the two party system going anywhere.
And as such, repubs would love it. Dems would be the only ones promising to do shit for us.....again.

The two parties own the electoral process. So, no, they aint going nowhere.
Even if black folk were to form our own party. Being that our population isn't that large (compared to the white and other population), we'd still need allies, and we'd still need either party to get thing passed.

What I don't understand is what's keeping black folk from holding elected officals accountable within the Democratic Party now, like what he claims he wants to do with a black party?
It's not like there aren't black democrats in control of local governments in this country. So what difference would forming (and I'm not saying don't do it) a black party really make?

 

[dugington]

So what difference would forming (and I'm not saying don't do it) a black party really make?

That's what I was saying.

We'd have no real power except......our vote.
And as such, dems would be the only ones promising shit.....again.

It's like a vicious cycle where we would still be talking about how to make them do this or that for our vote.

 

[bbuzzard]

An independant party is on order...not the current one

 

[godofwine]

And go where? Am I sick of the democratic party? You goddamn right I am.

But the choice is between the Democrats and they're pushing every agenda but an agenda that's important to black people, and the Republican party which is obviously racist as fuck

We're stuck between a rock and a goddamn hard place.

Politicians were quick to come to the aid of Asian people when they were being attacked because of covid-19 supposedly starting in China. And the videos they showed of Asians being attacked conspicuously only showed when they were attacked by black people

Black people get attacked daily, multiple times daily and there are no protections or laws set to exclusively protect us from violence for attack oh, but the Asians...

I'm sick of this goddamn country and honestly I'm enjoying watching it burn as the Republicans battle against Democrats and battle against each other attempting to rip the country apart all because the Republicans didn't win the presidential election

I served in the military and fought in their War. Aside from signing up to be a politician, I've done my duty.

I know that I and only I will be able to save myself, and no politician will ever do anything to help me. If anything, they will attempt to hinder my progress

I'm not going to get help from the Democrats because they're too busy helping The Alphabet Crew, telling me that I am now a cishet man and cisgenger because I was born with a dick and I know that makes me a man/male

I'm not going to get help from the Republicans because they're too busy trying to take away my voting rights and regain power

 

[Supersav]

The two parties own the electoral process. So, no, they aint going nowhere.
Even if black folk were to form our own party. Being that our population isn't that large (compared to the white and other population), we'd still need allies, and we'd still need either party to get thing passed.

What I don't understand is what's keeping black folk from holding elected officals accountable within the Democratic Party now, like what he claims he wants to do with a black party?
It's not like there aren't black democrats in control of local governments in this country. So what difference would forming (and I'm not saying don't do it) a black party really make?

I'll entertain this for a second..black democrats in control of local governments are beholden to whom? Black people? How do you suggest people hold these people accountable? Don't vote them? Vote for whom instead?

See that's why this whole shit is a farce to begin with.

 

[Supersav]

And go where? Am I sick of the democratic party? You goddamn right I am.

But the choice is between the Democrats and they're pushing every agenda but an agenda that's important to black people, and the Republican party which is obviously racist as fuck

We're stuck between a rock and a goddamn hard place.

Politicians were quick to come to the aid of Asian people when they were being attacked because of covid-19 supposedly starting in China. And the videos they showed of Asians being attacked conspicuously only showed when they were attacked by black people

Black people get attacked daily, multiple times daily and there are no protections or laws set to exclusively protect us from violence for attack oh, but the Asians...

I'm sick of this goddamn country and honestly I'm enjoying watching it burn as the Republicans battle against Democrats and battle against each other attempting to rip the country apart all because the Republicans didn't win the presidential election

I served in the military and fought in their War. Aside from signing up to be a politician, I've done my duty.

I know that I and only I will be able to save myself, and no politician will ever do anything to help me. If anything, they will attempt to hinder my progress

I'm not going to get help from the Democrats because they're too busy helping The Alphabet Crew, telling me that I am now a cishet man and cisgenger because I was born with a dick and I know that makes me a man/male

I'm not going to get help from the Republicans because they're too busy trying to take away my voting rights and regain power

So you too recognize that this system is bullshit. Good that's the first step. The system needs to be destroyed period. Voting more for Democrats because they are "better" than the other side doesn't help anybody

 

[crossovernegro]

That would be cool....but somebody had to do the legwork, getting it started, recruiting candidates...and getting them fundraising and running in lower elections, not trying to start them in presidential elections. ...and gotta take the long view, thinking years ahead, like maybe just maybe making a difference in 2028, 2030, etc. It's a worthwhile project, but it would temporarily help the GOP.

Now anyone wanting us to give the repubs a chance....answer the questions in the link in my sig

An independant party is on order...not the current one

 

[BKF]

I'll entertain this for a second..black democrats in control of local governments are beholden to whom? Black people? How do you suggest people hold these people accountable? Don't vote them? Vote for whom instead?

See that's why this whole shit is a farce to begin with.

They hold them accountable by doing the same thing the Tea Party did to republicans who didn't do what they wanted. They voted them out and ran people from within their coalition without forming their own separate party. Which in turn made the republican party as a whole start kowtowing towards their agenda.

 

[bbuzzard]

That would be cool....but somebody had to do the legwork, getting it started, recruiting candidates...and getting them fundraising and running in lower elections, not trying to start them in presidential elections. ...and gotta take the long view, thinking years ahead, like maybe just maybe making a difference in 2028, 2030, etc. It's a worthwhile project, but it would temporarily help the GOP.

Now anyone wanting us to give the repubs a chance....answer the questions in the link in my sig

So basically, I don't have much faith in that process. IMO, we need to find alternatives to living in this country. Being a minority is not all its hyped up to be...

 

[notreally]

The argument against the Democratic Party is legit, no doubt.

However, there is a time for everything, and right now, we are in an existential
fight for the ability to determine, or even influence, who are rulers are.

I am not sure enough Americans consider just how grave this is.

Democrats have played Lucy to the Black Man's Charlie Brown for many a moon, it is true.
However, the other party has clearly embraced fascism, and if the course of things do not
change for the better real soon, this country will be headed by a second Hitler.

A Hitler with the most powerful military on the planet. And nuclear weapons.

Let that sink in a bit. This is not hyperbole.

IF there were a place for black people to go (in other words, if this were not by design a TWO and ONLY TWO party system)
should they decide to leave the dems behind, great.

But this is not currently the case.

And the other party is LITERALLY perpetrating a coup, as I write this.


The time for these considerations is AFTER this crisis has passed.

Why?

Because if it passes the way it looks more and more likely to pass, you
might find that you will soon be relieved of your right to consider much of anything.

If republicans gain control of the government again, they will NEVER, EVER relinquish power
peacefully.

The fate of the world is at stake, in a very real way.

 

[COINTELPRO]

MLK and LBJ get all the credit for the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights, but Kennedy was talking about it in his speeches years before. It was his ultimate sacrifice, that galvanize the nation to pass this legislation in honor of him. I suspect this may have played a part in his undoing as it did with President Lincoln.

 

[notreally]

MLK and LBJ get all the credit for the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights, but Kennedy was talking about it in his speeches years before. It was his ultimate sacrifice, that galvanize the nation to pass this legislation in honor of him. I suspect this may have played a part in his undoing as it did with President Lincoln.

Actually, it was the other way around.

Kennedy played lip service, and never considered civil rights a priority.
LBJ, having had a history of working will underprivileged kids, was the one
who actually pushed for civil rights.

And, respectfully, to suggest MLK is not deserving of all the credit he receives belies a lack of depth of knowledge on your part.

 

[cb71109]

Me and my wife deregistered as democrats last year. We are independent because we cannot support a party that's weak on addressing our issues. We damn sure not going republican although we do support some of their views.

 

[BKF]

MLK and LBJ get all the credit for the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights, but Kennedy was talking about it in his speeches years before. It was his ultimate sacrifice, that galvanize the nation to pass this legislation in honor of him. I suspect this may have played a part in his undoing as it did with President Lincoln.

"Fifty-seven years ago today, John F. Kennedy made one of his most important and enduring orations, an appeal to all Americans to accept civil rights as "a moral issue ... as old as the scriptures and as clear as the Constitution."

It was a welcome declaration for African Americans and other people of color who faced systemic racism and, in much of the South, segregation as a daily reality in American life.

But Kennedy's speech was long in coming.

While he had wrestled with the festering question of civil rights in his two and a half years in the White House, Kennedy had resisted putting the full weight of the presidency behind it, contending that it was a legal issue over which he could do little. Among many others, Martin Luther King chided Kennedy for not bringing "moral passion" to the cause of racial equality.

That changed on June 11, 1963, when Kennedy told his aides, "I want to go on television tonight."

"If an American, because his skin is dark … cannot enjoy [a] full and free life," the president said in his address that evening, "...then who among us would want to have the color of his skin changed and stand in his place? Who among us would then be content with the counsels of patience and delay?"

Why did Kennedy change course on civil rights? It came largely due to the influence and evolving view of his brother, Bobby Kennedy, who served as his attorney general and closest advisor.

Like his brother, Bobby Kennedy had seen no great urgency in the cause of racial equality. By his own admission, he "did not lie awake at night worrying about the problems" of African Americans. But in the spring of 1963 his perspective began to change.

By then, Martin Luther King had brought a direct-action civil rights campaign to Birmingham, Alabama, "the most thoroughly segregated city in the country," where demonstrators were seized by vicious police dogs and brutalized by fire hoses that blasted 700 pounds of pressurized water. Arrested and thrown into solitary confinement, King scrawled his seminal "Letter from the Birmingham Jail," from his small, dark cell, contributing to the slow awakening of the country to the urgency of civil rights.

But a deeper impression was made on Bobby Kennedy in New York City, where he met with a number of African American activists who gathered at his invitation. The group had been assembled by 38-year-old novelist James Baldwin, whose celebrated New Yorker piece titled "Letter from a Region in My Mind," claimed, "The Negroes of this country may never be able to rise to power, but they are well placed indeed to precipitate chaos and bring down the curtain of the American dream."

John Kennedy was among those who were taken by Baldwin's powerful essay, and later by a Time magazine cover story on Baldwin called "The Root of the Negro Problem." He encouraged his brother to draw out Baldwin on the matter -- and Baldwin and the "rowdy" group he put together at Bobby Kennedy's urging didn't hold back.

The gathering, in the Kennedy family's spacious Central Park South apartment, began civilly enough before Jerome Smith, a young Freedom Rider who had been arrested and hospitalized for the beatings he sustained, lit into the attorney general about the plight of African Americans. He "put it like it was," recalled actress and singer Lena Horne, "the plain, basic suffering of being a negro," becoming so worked up in his diatribe that he blurted out he wanted to vomit just being in the same room with Bobby Kennedy.

At least, that's what Kennedy heard. What Smith was trying to convey was that having to make a plea to the attorney general for rights that should intrinsically be his as an American citizen made him feel like vomiting. Nonetheless, the assault hit Kennedy between the eyes. As he turned to ignore Smith, the anger in the room hissed louder. Kennedy sat down, reeling, trying to collect himself.

The Irish were persecuted, too, he told the group. His grandfather had landed on American shores as the object of prejudice, and now, two generations later, his brother was president. As he took in Kennedy's words, Baldwin's scorn for his insularity was as palpable as his shock at his naivete; his family had been in America far longer, Baldwin countered, and they were still clinging to society's lowest rung.

Though the meeting lasted three hours, it stayed with Kennedy far longer. "After Baldwin," said Nicholas Katzenbach, Kennedy's deputy attorney general, "he was in absolute shock. Bobby expected to be an honorary black … he thought he knew so much -- and he didn't."

Initially, Kennedy seethed -- afterward, he excoriated Baldwin to others -- but as his anger cooled, his mind began to change, turning to empathy. In his own way, Bobby Kennedy knew what it was to grow up feeling inferior, in his case in the shadow of his formidable older brothers, and he talked about how he would feel if his children were on the other side of Jim Crow segregation.

If he had been born black in America, he told an aide several days after the New York meeting, his feelings wouldn't have differed much from those of Baldwin.

Afterward, he urged his brother to embrace civil rights as a moral issue. Though the bulk of President Kennedy's advisors counseled him against making his speech on June 11, claiming it was too soon, Bobby Kennedy was the lone exception. "He urged it, he felt it, he understood it, and he prevailed," deputy attorney general Burke Marshall said. "I don't think there was anyone in the cabinet -- except the president himself -- who felt that way on these issues, and the president got it from his brother."

It offers a lesson for today. Painful as it may have been, Bobby Kennedy listened to those whose everyday experiences as Americans were far different from his. He acknowledged his privilege, he opened his mind and his heart. And he worked toward making a difference.

At that crucial moment in history, he did."

 

[blackpepper]

I honestly believe an independent afro-centric party would do little more than strengthen the GOP. They would love to see us run another Yeeze.

 

[dugington]

They would love to covertly run another Yeeze.

fixed

 

[Don Coreleone]

We also need to break up with the Obama's

 

[blackpepper]

We also need to break up with Obama's

Don't forget fried chicken, watermelon, Cadillacs, Hennessy, Aretha Franklin, and on and on...

 

[Shaka54]

I'm not sure, but isn't that before the parties switched platforms?

It's what CAUSED the platforms to switch. THIS was the transformation.

 

[Soul On Ice]

The argument against the Democratic Party is legit, no doubt.

However, there is a time for everything, and right now, we are in an existential
fight for the ability to determine, or even influence, who are rulers are.

I am not sure enough Americans consider just how grave this is.

Democrats have played Lucy to the Black Man's Charlie Brown for many a moon, it is true.
However, the other party has clearly embraced fascism, and if the course of things do not
change for the better real soon, this country will be headed by a second Hitler.

A Hitler with the most powerful military on the planet. And nuclear weapons.

Let that sink in a bit. This is not hyperbole.

IF there were a place for black people to go (in other words, if this were not by design a TWO and ONLY TWO party system)
should they decide to leave the dems behind, great.

But this is not currently the case.

And the other party is LITERALLY perpetrating a coup, as I write this.


The time for these considerations is AFTER this crisis has passed.

Why?

Because if it passes the way it looks more and more likely to pass, you
might find that you will soon be relieved of your right to consider much of anything.

If republicans gain control of the government again, they will NEVER, EVER relinquish power
peacefully.

The fate of the world is at stake, in a very real way.

#themostimportantelectionofourlives

@shaddyvillethug

 

[xxxbishopxxx]

I honestly believe an independent afro-centric party would do little more than strengthen the GOP. They would love to see us run another Yeeze.

To be honest, WE didn't run the first Yeeze. COOYe had no real platform other than breaking up the black vote to help Trump.

 

[dugington]

It's what CAUSED the platforms to switch. THIS was the transformation.

Ahhhhh.

 

[godofwine]

The argument against the Democratic Party is legit, no doubt.

However, there is a time for everything, and right now, we are in an existential
fight for the ability to determine, or even influence, who are rulers are.

I am not sure enough Americans consider just how grave this is.

Democrats have played Lucy to the Black Man's Charlie Brown for many a moon, it is true.
However, the other party has clearly embraced fascism, and if the course of things do not
change for the better real soon, this country will be headed by a second Hitler.

A Hitler with the most powerful military on the planet. And nuclear weapons.

Let that sink in a bit. This is not hyperbole.

IF there were a place for black people to go (in other words, if this were not by design a TWO and ONLY TWO party system)
should they decide to leave the dems behind, great.

But this is not currently the case.

And the other party is LITERALLY perpetrating a coup, as I write this.


The time for these considerations is AFTER this crisis has passed.

Why?

Because if it passes the way it looks more and more likely to pass, you
might find that you will soon be relieved of your right to consider much of anything.

If republicans gain control of the government again, they will NEVER, EVER relinquish power
peacefully.

The fate of the world is at stake, in a very real way.

All of this. All of this right here. Church

 

[godofwine]

Me and my wife deregistered as democrats last year. We are independent because we cannot support a party that's weak on addressing our issues. We damn sure not going republican although we do support some of their views.

If I can ask, which Republican views do you support?

The reason I ask is a lot of the Republican views are just a lip service. They don't even believe their own shit. All this Pro-Life, anti-abortion are Christian talking points (meanwhile when their 12-17 year old daughter gets pregnant they sneak her off to get a secret abortion - the hypocrisy)

What it comes down to is control. Control over a woman's body so that has no choice but to have a baby she doesn't want or has no abortion clinic available for her to get an abortion if she wanted one

 

[shaddyvillethug]

#themostimportantelectionofourlives

@shaddyvillethug

I just rered this thread

fuck all these coons

They would vote blue even if it was Micky mouse/bug bunny going up against trump

 

[shaddyvillethug]

#themostimportantelectionofourlives

@shaddyvillethug

 

[Atoosa]

Yeah screw both parties…yada yada yada. But we live here this shit ain’t systemically ours. So voting is just another tool we use in our quest to survive until we figure out how to come together as a collective. Until then vote to your best interest regardless of who. Not doing shit gets you Trump and Trump like ask these non voters in Va.

 

[notreally]

Yeah screw both parties…yada yada yada. But we live here this shit ain’t systemically ours. So voting is just another tool we use in our quest to survive until we figure out how to come together as a collective. Until then vote to your best interest regardless of who. Not doing shit gets you Trump and Trump like ask these non voters in Va.

Precisely.

 

[notreally]

If I can ask, which Republican views do you support?

The reason I ask is a lot of the Republican views are just a lip service. They don't even believe their own shit. All this Pro-Life, anti-abortion are Christian talking points (meanwhile when their 12-17 year old daughter gets pregnant they sneak her off to get a secret abortion - the hypocrisy)

What it comes down to is control. Control over a woman's body so that has no choice but to have a baby she doesn't want or has no abortion clinic available for her to get an abortion if she wanted one

Republican Lip Service and What it really means

Freedom of speech
Freedom to lie,cheat and bribe in order to gain power.

Pro life
The right for white men to control women's bodies.

A strong defense
The ability to send patriots into war under false pretenses
for the purpose of controlling the world's resources.

Right to bear arms
The right to terrorize anybody not white, not Christian,
or anyone opposing white supremacy.

Equal justice
Blacks, Natives, Hispanics, and Muslims are all equally guilty of any charge brought by a white police officer

Right to self defense
The right to hang a Black man, burn a Jew, or imprison
a Muslim at the whim of the white power structure

Constitutional
In accordance with white supremacy.


One man, one vote.
One WHITE man, one WHITE vote, or as many as deemed necessary, and only if cast for
a right wing candidate.


What is tragic is that none of these interpretations of far from the truth.