Is anything made in America?

And...

Why do my personal affairs matter to you?

It seems you are more interested in my personal life than defending your arguments.

Once again, you don't know anything about pricing, currency, and economies. You have not said one word in your defense.

Can you defend yourself? Or, are you just talking out your ass?

I have, I explained why I thought companies should reduce their cost of production by relocation where possible. I also explained how I base my economic decision making process, which according to you is how everyone else does it.

You on the other hand are proclaiming to possess the key to the door of enlightenment, but as yet have given me no indication as to what you do so differently from anyone else with all this knowledge you have.
If your not willing to share it, why come on here and brag about how knowledgeable you are?
 
IF IM RIGHT ....
WE ARE IN A SHIT LOAD OF TROUBLE.
OUR KIDS AND GRAND KIDS WILL PAY FOR OUR ARROGANCE
IMPATIENCE AND INDISCRETION.

You are right but people are too lazy to do anything about it.

They just say GLOBALSIM, FREE TRADE, 1 world economy and think there is nothing they can do about it.

You see how ridiculous this is. Yet, so many others have convinced themselves that importing something that could easily be made here somehow makes sense.

I have, I explained why I thought companies should reduce their cost of production by relocation where possible. I also explained how I base my economic decision making process, which according to you is how everyone else does it.

You on the other hand are proclaiming to possess the key to the door of enlightenment, but as yet have given me no indication as to what you do so differently from anyone else with all this knowledge you have.
If your not willing to share it, why come on here and brag about how knowledgeable you are?

I'm still trying to understand what my actions have to do with you.

If I succeed and you fail, what good is my success to you? What does that have to do with you being all wrong in your position?

I made the point you don't know what money is. You don't know what anything is. You haven't disputed any of my points showing your ignorance.

Instead of acting like I'm holding out information, why don't you ask a DAMN QUESTION?

Here, I'll get you started...

Do you want to know why this whole financial system is a scam?

Do you want to know why the profit motive is more white boy BS?

Do you want to know why dollars are imaginary and therefore prices in dollars are meaningless?

Instead of opening your mind to knowledge, you want to make this personal as if my business is somehow yours.

Just admit it. You love living uninformed, like so many other sheep in the United States... until that ignorance starts kicking your ass. :smh:
 
You are right but people are too lazy to do anything about it.

They just say GLOBALSIM, FREE TRADE, 1 world economy and think there is nothing they can do about it.

You see how ridiculous this is. Yet, so many others have convinced themselves that importing something that could easily be made here somehow makes sense.



I'm still trying to understand what my actions have to do with you.

If I succeed and you fail, what good is my success to you? What does that have to do with you being all wrong in your position?

I made the point you don't know what money is. You don't know what anything is. You haven't disputed any of my points showing your ignorance.

Instead of acting like I'm holding out information, why don't you ask a DAMN QUESTION?

Here, I'll get you started...

Do you want to know why this whole financial system is a scam?

Do you want to know why the profit motive is more white boy BS?

Do you want to know why dollars are imaginary and therefore prices in dollars are meaningless?

Instead of opening your mind to knowledge, you want to make this personal as if my business is somehow yours.

Just admit it. You love living uninformed, like so many other sheep in the United States... until that ignorance starts kicking your ass. :smh:

Money is a unit of exchange, however this is not new or enlightening information.
It works because we all trust in it's value.
The moment we cease to trust in it's value is when it becomes worthless, as evidenced by the recent collapse of the Zimbabwe Dollar or the German Reich before WWII.

Everyone knows it's a scam,that's not new information either, but the fact is we are in it and have no power to change it so you work your hustle within it.

My question to you still remains what do you do with all your font of knowledge that I don't do with my apparent lack of knowledge?
I don't want a detailed break down of your movements I'm just intrigued as to how you think your wealth of knowledge has enabled you to live your life so different to how I and the rest of the world lead our lives?
If you don't want to or can't answer that just say so and I'll bid you good day....
The smarmy 'I'm so smart' attitude doesn't work unless you forward some nugget of information to substantiate it.
 
USA isn't Making things and not many companies
invest in significant Research & Development, so
they are not even inventing or innovating.


Then again how can we with the poor education
system that doesn't produce individuals capable
of significant R&D or inventing.
 
MY MEMORY IS FINE I GREW UP THROUGH THE 70s
WITH OIL EMBARGO'S AND ALL THAT.

THE GOVERNMENT WOULDN'T HAVE TO INSIST ON ME DOING IT.
AND NO THEY SHOULDN'T BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY
WITH FREE ENTERPRISE.

PEOPLE WHO SHARE YOUR IDEALS
SHOULD NOT CARE ABOUT WHAT COMES ON TV OR IS IN RAP SONGS EITHER.
RAPPERS WITH A CONSCIOUS CENSOR THEIR WORDS OR FIND ANOTHER WAY TO SAY SOMETHING.

RAPPERS WHO ARE GREEDY
AND DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ANYBODY EXCEPT THEMSELVES
TALK ABOUT SELLING DOPE AND SMACKIN BITCHES IN THE MOUTH
WITH RECKLESS ABANDON.
DOES THIS HURT CHILDREN.........IMO YES.
IN OTHER PEOPLE WHO THINK THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR IS OK
NOT SO MUCH.

IN OTHER WORDS IT HURTS MORE THAN IT HELPS.

GREED BY ANY OTHER NAME IS STILL THE SAME.
YES ITS NICE TO BE ABLE TO PAD THE BOTTOM LINE
BUT WHAT ARE WE REALLY SELLING....
FREEDOM AND THE FUTURE.

CORPORATIONS ARE NO DIFFERENT THAT DOPE DEALERS
THEY TAKE AND TAKE AND TAKE
WITHOUT EVER PUTTING SHIT BACK.

ITS LIKE A DOPE BOY LIVING IN THE SUBURBS
GOING INTO THE HOOD AND SELLING DOPE
TO THAT COMMUNITY SUCKING IT DRY
THEN TAKING HIS MONEY BACK TO THE BURBS SO HE CAN CHILL.

YOU EITHER HAVE A CONSCIOUS
AND CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS COUNTRY
OR YOU DONT
BUT KNOW THIS

OUR KIDS AND THEIR KIDS WILL PAY FOR OUR UNCONSCIOUS BEHAVIOR

Well said.
 
Money is a unit of exchange, however this is not new or enlightening information.

Wrong! That's currency not money.

Money must meet three attributes (according to the Federal Reserve of New York's own definition)...

1. a store of value
2. unit of account
3. a medium of exchange

The currency used throughout the world IS NOT MONEY!!!!
It fails to satisfy the very first attribute of money.

It works because we all trust in it's value.

Correct. But, why do we put faith in it's value. Because of legal tender laws, courts settle all debts in Federal Reserve Notes.

But, there is no law saying you must accept it when you sell something or provide service. It only applies when you go to court.

The moment we cease to trust in it's value is when it becomes worthless, as evidenced by the recent collapse of the Zimbabwe Dollar or the German Reich before WWII.

Correct. You choose to accept Federal Reserve Notes. That is your choice and your responsibility.

Don't act like someone is putting a gun to your head to accept worthless pieces of paper in lieu of money.

Everyone knows it's a scam,that's not new information either, but the fact is we are in it and have no power to change it so you work your hustle within it.

You speak for everyone, I see. You say it is impossible to defeat. Why? Is it because you can't control yourself in accepting this worthless currency. What makes it worse, you know it's worhtless and yet still choose to keep it.

My question to you still remains what do you do with all your font of knowledge that I don't do with my apparent lack of knowledge?
I don't want a detailed break down of your movements I'm just intrigued as to how you think your wealth of knowledge has enabled you to live your life so different to how I and the rest of the world lead our lives?
If you don't want to or can't answer that just say so and I'll bid you good day....
The smarmy 'I'm so smart' attitude doesn't work unless you forward some nugget of information to substantiate it.

Who are you to tell me what I can and cannot do?

I don't know you.

All I know is you spout a lot of garbage about prices, currency, and the economy.

And, when you post your nonsense, I will put you in check.
 
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where is the vid to this....:eek:
 
Wrong! That's currency not money.

Money must meet three attributes (according to the Federal Reserve of New York's own definition)...

1. a store of value
2. unit of account
3. a medium of exchange

The currency used throughout the world IS NOT MONEY!!!!
It fails to satisfy the very first attribute of money.



Correct. But, why do we put faith in it's value. Because of legal tender laws, courts settle all debts in Federal Reserve Notes.

But, there is no law saying you must accept it when you sell something or provide service. It only applies when you go to court.



Correct. You choose to accept Federal Reserve Notes. That is your choice and your responsibility.

Don't act like someone is putting a gun to your head to accept worthless pieces of paper in lieu of money.



You speak for everyone, I see. You say it is impossible to defeat. Why? Is it because you can't control yourself in accepting this worthless currency. What makes it worse, you know it's worhtless and yet still choose to keep it.



Who are you to tell me what I can and cannot do?

I don't know you.

All I know is you spout a lot of garbage about prices, currency, and the economy.

And, when you post your nonsense, I will put you in check.

You don't know me and apparently know nothing of any worth.
You haven't put anyone in check.
You've just boasted about how much you know, but told me nothing.


Good day to you sir!!!!
 
I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT

HOWEVER
WE PAY A LITTIE MORE NOW
OR WE WILL PAY A LOT MORE LATER.

THIS SAME SHIT HAPPENED TO ALL THE BEAUTY SUPPLY STORES.
A BLACK PERSON COULDN'T OPEN A BEAUTY SUPPLY STORE
IF THEY WANTED TOO IN AMERICA.
YET THE #1 SUPPORTER OF THESE KOREAN OWNED OPERATED AND SUPPLIED
ESTABLISHMENTS ARE BLACK PEOPLE.

THEY INFRINGE ON COPYRIGHTS,
REVERSE ENGINEER AND BOOTLEG PRODUCTS.
DONT PUT ONE QUARTER BACK
THE DOLLAR DOES NOT CIRCULATE IN THAT COMMUNITY AT ALL.

WHATS NEXT ?

LIKE I SAID EARLIER
IN THIS CASE
I HOPE I AM WRONG AND
YALL ARE RIGHT.


IF IM RIGHT ....
WE ARE IN A SHIT LOAD OF TROUBLE.
OUR KIDS AND GRAND KIDS WILL PAY FOR OUR ARROGANCE
IMPATIENCE AND INDISCRETION.

Make sure your kids learn to speak Chinese that is all I can say.
 

Make sure your kids learn to speak Chinese that is all I can say.

THEY ARE ALREADY
FUNCTIONAL IN FRENCH AND SPANISH
CHINESE IS NEXT.

THEY WILL NEED TO BE FLUENT
CAUSE THATS WHERE WE ARE HEADED:smh:

WE ARE SELLING OFF REAL ESTATE
CORPORATIONS AND BRANDS
SOON WE WILL BE A SHELL OF OUR FORMER SELVES
ONLY TO BE SOALED UP LIKE A SPONGE BY A FOREIGN COUNTRY
PEOPLE DONT UNDERSTAND ECONOMIC WARFARE.

WE ARE AT WAR AND WHILE THE ENEMY IS FIGHTING
WE ARE BUSY PLAYING
TRYING TO COLLECT WORTHLESS PAPER
SHIT IS SAD
 
You don't know me and apparently know nothing of any worth.
You haven't put anyone in check.
You've just boasted about how much you know, but told me nothing.


Good day to you sir!!!!

Just keep your worthless opinions to yourself.

Good day to you too, sir.
 
So, it looks like I was right.

You don't know jacksquat about the way pricing, currency, or economies work.

Ignorance must be bliss for you.



First, you don't seem to know what a dollar is.

Second, since you don't know what a dollar is, you think everything having a dollar price determines its true cost and value.

Third, because you don't know how to determine true cost and value, it makes it almost impossible to decide if it has a net benefit to you.

Like almost all Americans, you are operating in an economic dark age. But, what makes it worse (like the Dark Ages), is you think you know but are really ignorant as hell.

If you want me to teach you, then first you have to understand the basics.

What is money? What is credit? What is a price? What is cost?

Let me just say, if you think shopping at Wal-Mart, buying a bunch of useless luxury items, buying foreign cars and Chinese-made goods makes any damn sense, and investing/spending your savings with the honkeys is in your best interest...

you have some learning ahead of you.

Someone didn't teach you right. But, that's okay. The powers that be don't want people to be taught how to act in their own best interests.

Don't want to get into your argument, but I thought I would bring up a couple of points.

Alot about what you say when speaking of currency, the dollar, is indeed true. That being said, the question that must be asked, is there any circumstance upon which importing a good would be cost effective and beneficial to you. I.E its produced in Africa (or wherever you feel most comfortable), cheap for you, those selling it feel they are getting a good deal from you, it helps the environment and all that shit:rolleyes:

If that is the case, free trade is not the problem bruh. You are attacking the way humans trade freely. I am not sure you want to do that.

Your solution to the ills of free trade would inevitable have something to do with protectionism and state-ism. When in fact, the problems with free trade are the problems with humanity (ie some people/companies cheat others, abuse the earth etc) and your solutions (which I assume you are getting to, most people who hate free trade drift towards some form of state-ism... Communism, the various flavors of Socialism, Fascism, etc...) end up making the problems worse, only you have a harder time bringing the culprits to justice.

just my .02

Fuck BO:dance::dance::dance::dance:
 
You are looking at the donor thing to discredit my argument? Oh man, you just don't know. :D

So, you're saying these are theories. Oh boy.

If you want to learn and have an intelligent conversation, you have some learning ahead of you.

Watch the money is debt video.
Watch International Money Masters.
Learn how the Federal Reserve works.
Learn how trade works in this country.
Learn about the IMF, BIS, and World Bank.
Know what fractional-reserve banking is.
Know what currency is as opposed to money.
Learn about comparative advantage and the division of labor.

Obviously, this is just scratching the surface. But, at least the conversation can be somewhat intelligent with this basic understanding.

The reality is you are not qualified to speak on economic issues with any authority, despite what you think.

Read. Learn. Then offer an opinion. This is my area of expertise so you had better come with some knowledge instead of this mindless "free trade" propaganda you're spouting.

Fuck Damn, tell me you aren't one of these resource-based economy nut:lol::lol::lol:

After finishing reading the post, I am almost damn certain you are one of those resource-based economy nuts.

you are therefore, a fucking idiot. Fuck you and BO
 
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Don't want to get into your argument, but I thought I would bring up a couple of points.

Alot about what you say when speaking of currency, the dollar, is indeed true. That being said, the question that must be asked, is there any circumstance upon which importing a good would be cost effective and beneficial to you. I.E its produced in Africa (or wherever you feel most comfortable), cheap for you, those selling it feel they are getting a good deal from you, it helps the environment and all that shit:rolleyes:

If that is the case, free trade is not the problem bruh. You are attacking the way humans trade freely. I am not sure you want to do that.

Your solution to the ills of free trade would inevitable have something to do with protectionism and state-ism. When in fact, the problems with free trade are the problems with humanity (ie some people/companies cheat others, abuse the earth etc) and your solutions (which I assume you are getting to, most people who hate free trade drift towards some form of state-ism... Communism, the various flavors of Socialism, Fascism, etc...) end up making the problems worse, only you have a harder time bringing the culprits to justice.

just my .02

Fuck BO:dance::dance::dance::dance:

Instead of saying I am for more government control of trade (e.g. free trade), I am for almost no government control of trade (e.g. free markets).

Free trade is a misnomer. It is a term that was created during the days of British colonialism to justify their exploitation of Africa, India, China, and the Americas.

Free trade basically means honkeys get to exploit non-whites freely in trade.

Free trade means everyone else in the world does the work, while whitey enjoys the benefits.

Free trade is so controlled, so regulated, so exploitative, that the honkeys needed a name to deflect its true nature.

Free trade is like a new form of slavery. It does not properly allocate resources, it leads to boom/bust cycles, overconsumption, and draining of natural resources.

It makes no sense to buy an import good when the technology, equipment, and people are willing and able to produce that good in the domestic market.

It does make sense if those things are lacking.

For the average joe, free trade is an evil upon the world and it pisses me off when people promote it, globalism, or the world economy. :angry:

Fuck Damn, tell me you aren't one of these resource-based economy nut:lol::lol::lol:

After finishing reading the post, I am almost damn certain you are one of those resource-based economy nuts.

you are therefore, a fucking idiot. Fuck you and BO

You are an idiot without a clue as to my position.

Inform yourself before you post your idiotic comments. Because you are dumbass number 2.
 
Instead of saying I am for more government control of trade (e.g. free trade), I am for almost no government control of trade (e.g. free markets).

Free trade is a misnomer. It is a term that was created during the days of British colonialism to justify their exploitation of Africa, India, China, and the Americas.

Free trade basically means honkeys get to exploit non-whites freely in trade.

Free trade means everyone else in the world does the work, while whitey enjoys the benefits.

Free trade is so controlled, so regulated, so exploitative, that the honkeys needed a name to deflect its true nature.

Free trade is like a new form of slavery. It does not properly allocate resources, it leads to boom/bust cycles, overconsumption, and draining of natural resources.

It makes no sense to buy an import good when the technology, equipment, and people are willing and able to produce that good in the domestic market.

It does make sense if those things are lacking.

For the average joe, free trade is an evil upon the world and it pisses me off when people promote it, globalism, or the world economy. :angry:



You are an idiot without a clue as to my position.

Inform yourself before you post your idiotic comments. Because you are dumbass number 2.


I know someone who holds to your same position and we argue like cats and dogs over it all the time. If my take on your position is right.
By the way, I am against the Fed and fake inflatable dollars as well. I don't think limiting your self to just the products in your country makes any sense however.
 
I know someone who holds to your same position and we argue like cats and dogs over it all the time. If my take on your position is right.
By the way, I am against the Fed and fake inflatable dollars as well. I don't think limiting your self to just the products in your country makes any sense however.

Well, at least we both agree the Fed is a paper regime and Obama is a joke.

========

This is when trade makes sense to me.

If you live in a cold climate and you want oranges, which only grow in a warm climate, then trade makes sense. It is impossible to produce all the goods you demand so you trade for those you would not have otherwise.

However...

if you make cars and I make cars, it makes no sense for us to trade cars if I can produce the cars you make and you can produce the cars I make. The only difference is who has the blueprints.

China already gets around this. They will copy anything, from cars to computers. It's senseless to waste all that fuel and time when they can be produced domestically.

But, in the free trade system, it makes sense to put people out of work producing something people want under the guise of patents, trademarks, and copyright.

Free trade is really no better than communism, where the government dicatates output and prices.

As you can tell, I hate free trade with a passion. There needs to be more liberty in the marketplace.
 
I'm not an expert on this but I'm guessing it's because it's the American LeMans...
Maybe the Europeans prefer the original Le Mans which is held in Le Mans in France......
I think that may be dominated by European cars...

LOL, did you even bother to hit the link?
Apparently not, ok I see you don't have a clue.
 
Items and the economy would be better if more things were made in the USA. Back in the day when most of our items were made here guess what we had less crime, nicer neighborhoods, more jobs, and folks cared what was going on next door. Just look at Detroit for example. Look at how the economy thrived when products were made there. Or think about the small town you visit in the summer. How the steel mills are closed, the tire factory closed, or some type of mining facility is closed. Bring production back to America and things will work out. Just think that 25 years ago you could graduate from high school. Start your job the next week. Within a year be married, have a child, and be a homeowner with 1 car. Try that shit in 2009 and see how broke your ass is. Worldwide economies only help the pockets of corporate america. Not the consumer .

What happened is the value of an education suddenly sky rocketed. Back in the day, John Doe can bypass college and he could earn enough to care for his future family and can be compensated come retirement (however no one should be convinced to work until they're 65). Now, certain trade jobs can no longer be had and most common folk are work hard enough without the time to re educate themselves.

It wasn't the norm to have a dual income either.

Instead of reminiscing over yesteryear, start planning for consequences now. If finding a job was yesterday, then creating the right business is today.

From my layman's POV, IT resourcing intertwined with social networking are the money makers: myspace, facebook, twitter, youtube.

Shit. Even drug dealers and prostitutes see a 9-5 for what it is: a jump off. As we rent now and save money to buy a house, why consider saving money and work that job to establish a firm?

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