If you have $10,000 and want to be your own boss, Amazon has a deal for you.

That's the question I want to know as well about the lease terms because I have no doubt that Amazon will shake you for every penny if they're providing you vans.

Also somebody said they'll pay their drivers $10 an hour, that's not gonna cut it in 2018. People are not going to get up bright and early every morning & do deliveries for a measly $10 an hr for 40+ hrs a week. This isn't 1998, the cost of living has shot up. You won't get reliable drivers for that pay.
Yeah how the hell am I gonna tell somebody i'll pay them 10 a hour when they can just do Flex driving and make much more and probably have easier routes?
 
Avon was! My bad

IDT that Amazon is running a pyramid scheme, but whenever someone offers you a ready made business you have to ask yourself "why aren't they doing this themselves?" When it comes to "opportunities" that involve driving the answer is usually that it covers their ass. Same reason Uber drivers don't work for Uber.

It's also suspicious that Amazon isn't offering these opportunities to existing courier companies. Every city has plenty of small outfits who already have competent staff with proven records. But Amazon would rather recruit owners with no entrepreneurial experience hiring employees that they don't even know.
Large companies don’t do it themselves because of a term called “Scalability”. In order to create a division within their organization to handle the massive amount of deliveries that Amazon would require is not easily done.

Amazon is not a delivery company so they don’t have the infrastructure to handle the volume of deliveries they have. Their current business model is not scalable, which is preventing them from effectively creating a delivery company within their organization. So they decided to outsource that part of their business
 
Yeah how the hell am I gonna tell somebody i'll pay them 10 a hour when they can just do Flex driving and make much more and probably have easier routes?
Flex driving is not guaranteed. In many spots it is tough to get routes. Plus when this takes affect, Amazon Flex drivers will be eliminated. 10 an hour just to drop off packages is an easy job in which many will line up for
 
I think their saving grace is that Amazon just doesn't have enough drivers to fulfill all of their orders...so USPS, UPS, Fed Ex will continue to make money....but it depends on how fast this grows. Because I think if all shit goes well.....Amazon gonna do this and keep building it until it eventually knocks USPS off their ass. Shit was all good until Trump opened his big ass mouth.
These are just Prime orders. With Amazon guaranteeing two and one Day turn around times, organizations like Fed Ex, UPS and USPS can’t meet those demands because they also have their own customers

Regular orders will still go through Fed Ex, UPS and USPS
 
This. Just putting in 10 grand and thinking you'll be caking up right away will put you in a world of hurt.
In this business model, Creating a package delivery business only cost $10k. Just one Van will deliver you $86,000 in gross revenue.

Add a second Van and you are already a $200,000 dollar company with only a $10,000 investment.
 
That's the question I want to know as well about the lease terms because I have no doubt that Amazon will shake you for every penny if they're providing you vans.

we were basing them off an est. of about 500 since they use sprinters.

Also somebody said they'll pay their drivers $10 an hour, that's not gonna cut it in 2018. People are not going to get up bright and early every morning & do deliveries for a measly $10 an hr for 40+ hrs a week. This isn't 1998, the cost of living has shot up. You won't get reliable drivers for that pay.

g'luck with flex. it's not everywhere and damn near impossible to get into. people will work for that. your job isn't to make people rich it's to put money in your pockets. go into this thinking you're going to save the world and you'll fail.

In this business model, Creating a package delivery business only cost $10k. Just one Van will deliver you $86,000 in gross revenue.

Add a second Van and you are already a $200,000 dollar company with only a $10,000 investment.

something tells me though they aren't going to waste their time and resources with someone with no less then 10 trucks though. remember they are screening candidates. if they have someone willing to do 20+ and you're only doing 2-5 guess who they are going to go with? a few is a waste of time to them. unless you're in some remote desolate small population area

Avon was! My bad

IDT that Amazon is running a pyramid scheme, but whenever someone offers you a ready made business you have to ask yourself "why aren't they doing this themselves?" When it comes to "opportunities" that involve driving the answer is usually that it covers their ass. Same reason Uber drivers don't work for Uber.

It's also suspicious that Amazon isn't offering these opportunities to existing courier companies. Every city has plenty of small outfits who already have competent staff with proven records. But Amazon would rather recruit owners with no entrepreneurial experience hiring employees that they don't even know.

nothing about it is suspicious. this is a direct "fuck you" to trump, and making themselves self sustainable. plus courier companies wouldn't be enough for what they are trying to do. plus i do the exact same thing in my business. i offer my products to other people to sale for me. they are more motivated to do so because they make good money doing it.
 
i just got word i was approved for cleveland, didn't get approved for atlanta or houston. about to reapply for atlanta under my wife. i gotta go do an in person interview next week
 
and some things to clear up

1. you can do a handful of trucks 1-2 that's how the 10k benefits if you are starting small and get u on the road
2. realistically they said 50k for 20+ trucks to keep yourself in good shap
3. won't give u leasing numbers until after you go in and they discuss with you in person
4. some cities do not require u to have a "physical place of business" if you have just 1-2 trucks
 
Anyone actually go through with this? I submitted what was initially required and heard nothing back but finally got an email yesterday saying that I was accepted and would be set up for a 30 minute phone interview within a month or so. Just curious if they went this out to everyone who applied or not.
 
we goto seattle next month for a few weeks training


Hmmmmm.....thats a trip. Im sure you submitted when I did so its funny that they skip the phone interview with you and jump straight into the "in person" interview. Maybe cause you had more credentials or something. I'm doing Cali so may be more congested over here. I had to show them I had at least 30k in my bank accounts in actual cash (not credit) before they accepted me.
 
Hmmmmm.....thats a trip. Im sure you submitted when I did so its funny that they skip the phone interview with you and jump straight into the "in person" interview. Maybe cause you had more credentials or something. I'm doing Cali so may be more congested over here. I had to show them I had at least 30k in my bank accounts in actual cash (not credit) before they accepted me.

we did the phone interview. i'm off this wednesday. we had to show more though in the bank, but our goal is probably larger.
 
1. details to your experience operating a business

2. they'll ask about your history to see if you qualify for some plans such as if you're a vet and explain what you can get

3. your plans as far as obtaining quality employees, maintaining those employees so you don't have a reason for not being on the road

4. your financial plan

they asked a lot about business and personal credit as well. more less to feel you out to see if you'll go all the way with this or just waste time and be out of it within a few months
 
Avon was! My bad

IDT that Amazon is running a pyramid scheme, but whenever someone offers you a ready made business you have to ask yourself "why aren't they doing this themselves?" When it comes to "opportunities" that involve driving the answer is usually that it covers their ass. Same reason Uber drivers don't work for Uber.

It's also suspicious that Amazon isn't offering these opportunities to existing courier companies. Every city has plenty of small outfits who already have competent staff with proven records. But Amazon would rather recruit owners with no entrepreneurial experience hiring employees that they don't even know.

it's beneficial to them to do this under their banner but pay third party franchisee owners to do the work and deal with the hassles that comes with it. it's what i do now with my ebay sales. i pay other sellers to deal with the ebay headaches. we just take the money, build and ship.
 
it's beneficial to them to do this under their banner but pay third party franchisee owners to do the work and deal with the hassles that comes with it. it's what i do now with my ebay sales. i pay other sellers to deal with the ebay headaches. we just take the money, build and ship.


That's perfectly fine so long as you understand and accept the risks involved.

The biggest red flag for me is that they are encouraging inexperienced people to start new companies to handle these risks instead of calling on experienced shippers that already do. This suggests that either their deliveries pay far below market rate or that their contracts contain clauses that an existing company would never accept.
 
Finally got the email for my interview. Did my interview yesterday so now they say that they will contact me back within 10 days to give me the next steps which according to all the previous emails is to fly me out for training so lets see how this go. Haha
 
Finally got the email for my interview. Did my interview yesterday so now they say that they will contact me back within 10 days to give me the next steps which according to all the previous emails is to fly me out for training so lets see how this go. Haha

Keep us posted, I want to see if the bread is that good.
 
This going to hurt the post office budget
45 complained about Bezo's deal with the PO.
Now they are getting to cut the government of of their logistics of moving packages.
 
Keep us posted, I want to see if the bread is that good.

Fasho. It took damn near 3+ months for them to hit me with the interview process. I thought it was gonna be a phone call type of thang but it was done via webcam. They basically give you 7 questions, you get 3 mins to answer each question. If you dont like your answer, you can delete and re-record. You get 4 tries for each question. I didn't prep or anything. I just said fuck it and jumped right into it. On one question I deleted and re-recorded but on the others I just rode with what I initially said.
 
Yeah how the hell am I gonna tell somebody i'll pay them 10 a hour when they can just do Flex driving and make much more and probably have easier routes?
Your 10 comes with benefits and no out of pocket expenses. Flex you have to buy your own gas your own tolls your own vehicle and so on that 18-25 an hour they guarantee comes down greatly when they factor that in
 
Who what? You tried to buy a franchise?
I tried to flip ten thousand. But what I was trying to invest in was black BDU's like the kind the black panthers wear. When you got a girl friend they beleive in you investing your money in them. Then the people I tried to work with kept delaying me while the money was dwindling away.
 
Your 10 comes with benefits and no out of pocket expenses. Flex you have to buy your own gas your own tolls your own vehicle and so on that 18-25 an hour they guarantee comes down greatly when they factor that in
I'd rather do flex especially if I have a newer car.
 
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