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How is has Mayweather started his career at 130 and now is fighting at 154 and didn't face Morales, Barrera, Casamayor, Juan Diaz, Hatton, Kostyzu, Cotto, Mosley, Winky Wright,etc.

How is that cat gonna retire and say he has nothing to prove as a boxer and but also claim he is the best to ever step in the ring without fighting those other fighters.. He didn't even soundly beat Oscar IMHO. If Oscar keeps the left jab going he wins the fight.

I respect his decision as he says he wants to spend more time with his family... but as a boxing fan..he needs to solidify his legacy..there are great fighters out there that he has avoided..
 
eewwll said:
How is has Mayweather started his career at 130 and now is fighting at 154 and didn't face Morales, Barrera, Casamayor, Juan Diaz, Hatton, Kostyzu, Cotto, Mosley, Winky Wright,etc.

How is that cat gonna retire and say he has nothing to prove as a boxer and but also claim he is the best to ever step in the ring without fighting those other fighters.. He didn't even soundly beat Oscar IMHO. If Oscar keeps the left jab going he wins the fight.

I respect his decision as he says he wants to spend more time with his family... but as a boxing fan..he needs to solidify his legacy..there are great fighters out there that he has avoided..


Do you know what weight class Morales, Hatton, Winky Wright and Barrera fight at?

Winky fights at fuckin middleweight/super

Kotstyzu has been gone for like 5 years :smh:

You're just naming boxers :smh: Just shut the fuck up :smh:

And have you heard his father and uncle, I wouldn't blame him for leaving boxing alone. Hell, Freddie Roach has parkinsons.
 
he's to small...
they aren't that great.... they might be a challenge because he's smaller but not skill wise! even hatton said that.
everybody agrees skills wise he's the best
 
Complex said:
Do you know what weight class Morales, Hatton, Winky Wright and Barrera fight at?

Winky fights at fuckin middleweight/super

Kotstyzu has been gone for like 5 years :smh:

You're just naming boxers :smh: Just shut the fuck up :smh:

And have you heard his father and uncle, I wouldn't blame him for leaving boxing alone. Hell, Freddie Roach has parkinsons.

I know what weight class he has been fighting at. Morales aint shit but a lightweight....Hatton is a light welterweight..cotto is a welterweight..these are all fights he can take

fuck outta here...do you know the fucking weight classes.. he just fought at 150
 
eewwll said:
I know what weight class he has been fighting at. Morales aint shit but a lightweight....Hatton is a light welterweight..cotter is a welterweight..he cant move up a bit and fight Winky Wright...

fuck outta here...do you know the fucking weight classes.. he just fought at 150

Thanks for removing all doubt if you were stupid or not :smh:
 
Stick to mma bro

Floyd clearly won that fight....hell I think he dominated

besides that, Floyd would destroy Cotto.

The only challenging fight would be against Mosley. That would be worth $50
 
alexw said:
The only challenging fight would be against Mosley. That would be worth $50

Another fight I would like to see before he calls it quits. I hate to see a great fighter leave in his prime when there are still good matches for him
 
I wanna se him fight paul williams.Paul is a wild dude and hits hard and he's like 6'2 it would be hard for floyd to jab him like he did oscar.Right now floyd would beat him so i dont wanna see it until 09.
 
eewwll said:
How is has Mayweather started his career at 130 and now is fighting at 154 and didn't face Morales, Barrera, Casamayor, Juan Diaz, Hatton, Kostyzu, Cotto, Mosley, Winky Wright,etc.

How is that cat gonna retire and say he has nothing to prove as a boxer and but also claim he is the best to ever step in the ring without fighting those other fighters.. He didn't even soundly beat Oscar IMHO. If Oscar keeps the left jab going he wins the fight.

I respect his decision as he says he wants to spend more time with his family... but as a boxing fan..he needs to solidify his legacy..there are great fighters out there that he has avoided..

Winky Wright is in a higher weight class and would kick Pretty Boy's ass. If you think Oscar is strong, Wright would knock Mayweather's head off his shoulders.
 
Complex said:
Thanks for removing all doubt if you were stupid or not :smh:

Fuck outta here. You have a high enough post count to have read my posts and come to that conclusion. I could play the Sophist and turn around and argue your point better than you... keep your mouth..

And you act like boxers don't go up and down in weight classes to for fights. Although not a big jump, he just came up in weight to fight this one. Roy Jones started jumping around to find fights..but he got taxed for it.

He can fight Mosley..Margorito.

There are too many good fights out there for a great fighter to walk away in his prime...
 
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i dont think he dominated at all...and the way he was talkin after the fight..lmao...hopefully that was confidence talkin and him not bein dead serious...he seen what oscar has and he aint fightin nobody who would be considered a "good" fight....hes glad he beat oscar so when hes old and talkin bout his career he'll say "but i beat oscar, tho" 100 times....i wanted to atleast see a slip, cut, blood, SUMTHIN...i mean wit all that shit talkin i expected more....but this is old news..next stop for me JULY 21!!!!!!!....all money on bernard who want what???
 
eewwll said:
Fuck outta here. You have a high enough post count to have read my posts and come to that conclusion.

And you act like boxers don't go up and down in weight classes to for fights. Although not a big jump, he just came up in weight to fight this one. Roy Jones started jumping around to find fights..but he got taxed for it.

He can fight Mosley..Margorito.

There are too many good fights out there for a great fighter to walk away in his prime...

Boxers normally go up or down...one weight class. They don't jump from fuckin junior middleweight to lightweight or super middle weight you fuckin nitwit. When Roy was fighting at heavy...he fought a small heavy with no power and he was already at supermiddle/light heavy weight. He didn't jump from welterweight to supermiddle weight in one year.

Just admit you don't know what the fuck you were talking about. Hell you named Kostyzu. :smh: And for the record Cotto is fuckin overrated. Hell why not fight Julio Caesar Chavez and Sweetpea Whitaker :rolleyes:

Margurito is the only one out there, and he hasn't exactly fought any top competition. Floyd wanted to fight Shane before the Oscar fight was made, but Shane didn't want it. He wanted him to fight Oscar first.
 
Complex said:
Boxers normally go up or down...one weight class. They don't jump from fuckin junior middleweight to lightweight or super middle weight you fuckin nitwit. When Roy was fighting at heavy...he fought a small heavy with no power and he was already at supermiddle/light heavy weight. He didn't jump from welterweight to supermiddle weight in one year.

Just admit you don't know what the fuck you were talking about. Hell you named Kostyzu. smh: And for the record Cotto is fuckin overrated. Hell why not fight Julio Caesar Chavez and Sweetpea Whitaker :rolleyes:

Margurito is the only one out there, and he hasn't exactly fought any top competition. Floyd wanted to fight Shane before the Oscar fight was made, but Shane didn't want it. He wanted him to fight Oscar first.

the way mosley almost literally killed vargas i think he might put a hit on mayweather if they ever fight and cotto is not over-rated just wait until he beats zabb judah june 9th
 
147th street hustla said:
the way mosley almost literally killed vargas i think he might put a hit on mayweather if they ever fight and cotto is not over-rated just wait until he beats zabb judah june 9th


Cotto is way overrated

the kid has a glass jaw

if zab doesnt act retarded

he'll win
 
Complex said:
Boxers normally go up or down...one weight class.

I already said that boxers typically go up or down one weight class like MW did in this bout. However, not only is there competition in his class..there is comp one or two up and down. There is a possibility of his going up or going down to fight other great fighter as well.

Complex said:
They don't jump from fuckin junior middleweight to lightweight or super middle weight you fuckin nitwit. When Roy was fighting at heavy...he fought a small heavy with no power and he was already at supermiddle/light heavy weight. He didn't jump from welterweight to supermiddle weight in one year.

Be easy. I could play the sophist and argue your point better than you.

Also, did you notice my initial post: I mentioned that Floyd started at 132 and fought this fight a 150...a gradual increase in weight. Who mentioned anything about going up two weight classes overnight. The point was that there is still competition that he can fight.

Roy Jones started at welterweight and then gradually moved up to light heavyweight... he moved up to later in his career to make fights because he dominated his class. This makes my point. MW can still takes fights or move up or down gradually to fight other great fighters if he claims he is the best that has ever boxed... he still has to win more greats fights to be that..


Complex said:
Margurito is the only one out there, and he hasn't exactly fought any top competition. Floyd wanted to fight Shane before the Oscar fight was made, but Shane didn't want it. He wanted him to fight Oscar first.

I named Margorito. I named Shane already as well... Two or a few possible great fights for Mayweather already. The idea of that there is no one available for him to fight is erroneous.
 
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the logical next fight for Floyd is Sugar Shane Mosely ,Winky is too big,Margorito too unknown


Floyd and Sugar Shane would be another Superfight - Floyd isnt ready to retire ,he is only using that has a negotiating tool
 
eewwll said:
How is has Mayweather started his career at 130 and now is fighting at 154 and didn't face Morales, Barrera, Casamayor, Juan Diaz, Hatton, Kostyzu, Cotto, Mosley, Winky Wright,etc.

How is that cat gonna retire and say he has nothing to prove as a boxer and but also claim he is the best to ever step in the ring without fighting those other fighters.. He didn't even soundly beat Oscar IMHO. If Oscar keeps the left jab going he wins the fight.

I respect his decision as he says he wants to spend more time with his family... but as a boxing fan..he needs to solidify his legacy..there are great fighters out there that he has avoided..

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Nah, playa. First, Morales and MAB weren't even in the same weight class...He wasn't going to move down for them at the time...

Casamayor was busy trying to get past J.L. Castillo and Corrales...and those were fairly recent fights...

Juan Diaz just virtually won his first fight on a major network against a guy who quit against Castillo and then quit against Diaz...

Tszyu and Hatton... :smh: Both are too slow...Hatton tried to chase Floyd down at 147 and met Luis Collazo in his first welterweight fight. The result? He went back down to 140...We'll see how he does against JLC...

Cotto's too flat footed. I wouldn't be suprised if Judah beat him (although that may be a stretch) since Cotto gets hit with too many shots to my liking...

That leaves Mosley and Winky...Floyd & Winky shot down a possible fight a couple of years ago because of the share so that never happens...Mosley is the only logical fight left for Floyd...and he won't even get as much from that fight as he did against Oscar...

Why do you think Margarito is a good fight? Shoot, I don't think he'll beat Paul Williams...
 
Kazoo said:
Floyd and Sugar Shane would be another Superfight - Floyd isnt ready to retire ,he is only using that has a negotiating tool

That's what I would like to see next. I thought the same thing before going into this fight that the retirement talk was a promotional tool..and I still don't think he will hang it up now...would be unfortunate not to see one or two more great fights against excellent fighters first...
 
tp2001 said:
That leaves Mosley and Winky...Floyd & Winky shot down a possible fight a couple of years ago because of the share so that never happens...Mosley is the only logical fight left for Floyd...and he won't even get as much from that fight as he did against Oscar...

Why do you think Margarito is a good fight? Shoot, I don't think he'll beat Paul Williams...

Well.I said Mosley and Winky too :lol: My overriding theme is that I want to see him challenged at least a couple more times against great fighters before he hangs em up. I want to see where he ranks against the all time greats and he needs a couple of more superfights to solidy his place without question. That is my point.
 
Kazoo said:
the logical next fight for Floyd is Sugar Shane Mosely ,Winky is too big,Margorito too unknown


Floyd and Sugar Shane would be another Superfight - Floyd isnt ready to retire ,he is only using that has a negotiating tool
I agree. Shane would be a better match up than DLH was. DLH lost to Shane twice, so Shane would have had a better chance against Floyd.
 
eewwll said:
I know what weight class he has been fighting at. Morales aint shit but a lightweight....Hatton is a light welterweight..cotto is a welterweight..these are all fights he can take

fuck outta here...do you know the fucking weight classes.. he just fought at 150


Very good point!

Mind control is a very powerful tool,and these brainwashed conditioned dickriders only know that the MEDIA told 'em to like him,he hasn't proven shit to me and many others who really know the deal.
 
eewwll said:
Well.I said Mosley and Winky too :lol: My overriding theme is that I want to see him challenged at least a couple more times against great fighters before he hangs em up. I want to see where he ranks against the all time greats and he needs a couple of more superfights to solidy his place without question. That is my point.

I wish he could fight Mosley also, but the way Floyd's actin it may not happen...

We could only hope :yes:
 
alexw said:
Stick to mma bro

Floyd clearly won that fight....hell I think he dominated

besides that, Floyd would destroy Cotto.

The only challenging fight would be against Mosley. That would be worth $50

True dat. But I also think Paul Wiliiams can give him a run for his money. Long, excellent jab, fast, lil bit of power.
 
My other issue is this..with all the direspecting of Sugar Ray Leonard by Floyd Mayweather..

I need to see 2 or 3 might fights to rank him at or above..

Leonard, Robinson, etc on the all-time greats list.

If he leaves now, it leaves that in question. Although he will have the great undefeated record, he won't have the resume of those fighters.
 
tp2001 said:
I wish he could fight Mosley also, but the way Floyd's actin it may not happen...

We could only hope :yes:

Yeah.

I'm not disrespecting Floyd because he won the fight tonight and he is an all-time great.

However, with his lack of big wins over great fighters.. i'm struggling with where to rank him all time...he has the wins.. but just not the resume of Leonard for example.

If he can get a decisive win over Mosley and another great one... then he solidifies his legacy IMHO :yes:

Like I said. I understand his desire to spend more time with his family, etc.. but i just hate to see him leave at this point when there are still big fights for him out there..
 
tp2001 said:
Mosley is the only logical fight left for Floyd...and he won't even get as much from that fight as he did against Oscar...
I think Floyd can get more from a Mosley fight because Mosley doesn't get the lion's share of the purse like DLH did. Floyd got between 7 and 8 for fighting Zab and Carlos each. I could see him getting a minimum 10 to 12 to fight Shane with Shane taking whatever he can get, maybe 6 or so.
 
You could have made your point better if you didnt just start throwing names out there.... if you would have dropped some names that made since then you would have had a more valid point.

Its true that junior middle and welter have some amazing talent right now and there are some potentially good matchups, but a lot of the cats you named that floyd didnt fight like Morales were not fighting at lightweight when floyd was at lightweight like juan diaz who is relatively new, morales and barrera who fought most of their careers at featherweight. Floyd didnt move up to welter till Koysta Tszyzu was gone. etc etc. Most of the fights that you are talking about wont be made anytime soon or at all because they would require unrealistic jumps to different weight classes.
 
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