HBO: Insecure -- Season 5 Official Discussion Thread (Final Season)

In my 30s - my younger girlfriends are much less inhibited talking about sex than I was when I was their age, though, so I understand what you're talking about. However, I think women my age and older do struggle with it. My sister, who's a few years older than me, at her own bridal shower couldn't talk or joke about sex when someone gave her a sexy date kit idea...I mean, you're getting married - we know you're either having sex (or about to have sex.) But, there still exists black women who are prudes...and, regardless of the age, there exists a narrative regarding black women and their hypersexuality. We fear that, as a whole, not just black men but ANY man will only view as sexual property and may "move slower" in some sexual situations for fear of that stereotype.

I have to disagree with you. If you were my age (48) I would roll with what you're saying but at your age the attitude of Black women when it came to giving head had completely changed.
 
I laughed out loud when homie bust on her face....

she an LA dodger fo sho!!

those kinds of chicks dont know about the anti aging

properties of the love juice...

them hoes better learn before its to late...

issa is cool but they need to give her man his own
show..

his story line is waaay more interesting...
 
Beyonce talks about it now because she's in a marriage and wants to pleasure her man - please believe 20, 25 year old Beyonce would have never made a song referencing head. And, even when she did release that song, some black women, especially older black women, criticized her for being public about her sex life because it was considered taboo in their circles.
Beyonce talks about it now because thats the direction music has gone, has nothing to do with no damn husband
 
I have to disagree with you. If you were my age (48) I would roll with what you're saying but at your age the attitude of Black women when it came to giving head had completely changed.

I think, as a few posters mentioned, it is regional. I have plenty of girlfriends my age who chose to remain celibate before marriage, and have particular attitudes towards sexual acts. I can't make this stuff up lol. It may seem outdated but, believe me, it's real... And I'm 35 and my girlfriends are my age and slightly older. The black church has much to do with it, as well. Which is a whole nother discussion...

I think part of the reason I don't feel that way is because I grew up in New Orleans and I went to college and grad school up the East coast around West Indians, New Yorkers, and people who didn't have such antiquated views. But, I'm telling you, these women exist... STILL... In 2017. It's the same women who feel the episode went "too far" in showing a cum shot. Like, lady, have you ever watched a porno?!?
 
Beyonce talks about it now because thats the direction music has gone, has nothing to do with no damn husband

I disagree, but can see your point. 10, 15 years ago, no woman would have ever made a song saying her "Sex was amazing." At least, not with controversy... But, today, it's no biggie.
 
Big Props to Issa wearing a FBI Killed Fred Hampton shirt.

As for the show... Issa overreacts to everything and expects the world to spin around her life. And ain't nothin wrong with taken a nut to the face.

Molly is a hypocrite.

Lawrence needs to watch himself in the workplace because the white people are real fake over there. And if he fucks that chick, shit can go south real quick if things don't work out and you still have to see her everyday.

I think him and Issa are going to end up back together
 
I think, as a few posters mentioned, it is regional. I have plenty of girlfriends my age who chose to remain celibate before marriage, and have particular attitudes towards sexual acts. I can't make this stuff up lol. It may seem outdated but, believe me, it's real... And I'm 35 and my girlfriends are my age and slightly older. The black church has much to do with it, as well. Which is a whole nother discussion...

I think part of the reason I don't feel that way is because I grew up in New Orleans and I went to college and grad school up the East coast around West Indians, New Yorkers, and people who didn't have such antiquated views. But, I'm telling you, these women exist... STILL... In 2017. It's the same women who feel the episode went "too far" in showing a cum shot. Like, lady, have you ever watched a porno?!?

Thank for your input, we all appreciate a woman's perspective.

Some attitudes might be regional but Issa grew up in LA and she's a younger Black woman. There's a reason they put that in the show with those points of views, because that's how many Black women feel.

I know posters have already stated and of course, every Black woman they've been with is deep throating and swallowing their nut but that's truly not the majority.
 
Are there still sistas out there not sucking dick? I do remember many behaving like on the show but that was like 20 years ago(i'm almost 40). Its been awhile since i've come across a woman that isn't into sucking dick and my dating range is 22-42.

Not since high school if I'm being honest. First good head I got was in college. Shits been a deal breaker ever since, I'm now 34. She doesn't have to swallow, but that acting like it's acid don't fly either.

Funny thing is just the night before I was telling my lady that chicks that think they're too good to give head, or don't refine that craft don't get rings. Now obviously this isn't the case all the time. But it's like some women don't understand that great pussy is like some 5%er shit and their pussy is probably just avg(still good) but no different than any other chicks. So if you can't differentiate yourself from the next chick... Why should I choose you???
 
Issa and her crew all fall in that 26-35 age range. You're never going to find a women that age that acts like sucking dick is some taboo. And the friend Kelli pissed me off. Sorry but you OK with getting fingered in a diner but you draw the line at blowjobs??

GTFOH

That's why Kelly is, getting fingered in a diner and trying to catch a man instead of having one.
 
I'm not sure of an answer to your question, but their conversation about black women and blow jobs was real. Older millineals didn't get the sex talks often and we don't feel as empowered sexually as younger people do. I remember struggling, when I was single, about how far to go sexually with a guy - like, he could pleasure me orally and that was cool... But, putting his dick in my mouth seemed like such a big line to cross... The logic may seems backwards but some middle-aged black women do have these thoughts.

It was the tail end of taboo for your age group

We went from mase saying I'll never eat pussy and mystikal saying I might not eat ya pussy but I'll bite you on the draws
To eating booty like groceries in a half of a generation

I'm not even old and being gay was taboo for men and women and no such thing as a Trans person at my high school or college
To it not even being a thing anymore

So I get exactly what you're alluding to.
 
Nah I can't say neck and neck, there's a reason white women are known for head and I'm sure more than a few brothas can comment on that.

It's a joke but some say white women treat head damn near like a handshake, can't say that for Black women.

I've been blessed then
Hasn't been my personal experience
 
In my 30s - my younger girlfriends are much less inhibited talking about sex than I was when I was their age, though, so I understand what you're talking about. However, I think women my age and older do struggle with it. My sister, who's a few years older than me, at her own bridal shower couldn't talk or joke about sex when someone gave her a sexy date kit idea...I mean, you're getting married - we know you're either having sex (or about to have sex.) But, there still exists black women who are prudes...and, regardless of the age, there exists a narrative regarding black women and their hypersexuality. We fear that, as a whole, not just black men but ANY man will only view as sexual property and may "move slower" in some sexual situations for fear of that stereotype.

Agreed
It exists for black men too as far as other races wanting to fuck us and use us for our dicks and white male penis envy actually is the engine that keeps racism running

But we are men so we block shit out of our minds and be like oh well

Women can't do that and still hold value in this society

Which is constructed by white ideals we should keep in mind
 
I'm not sure of an answer to your question, but their conversation about black women and blow jobs was real. Older millineals didn't get the sex talks often and we don't feel as empowered sexually as younger people do. I remember struggling, when I was single, about how far to go sexually with a guy - like, he could pleasure me orally and that was cool... But, putting his dick in my mouth seemed like such a big line to cross... The logic may seems backwards but some middle-aged black women do have these thoughts.

Im always around my 2 female cousins one about to be 32, the other bout to be 29 which means I'm around their friends. Also always with my homegirl she's 35 which I use to fuck but we childhood friends so we stayed cool even tho we don't fuck anymore so I'm always around her friends also.

We have all types of BBQs, pool parties, card games, all types of events n these chicks ranging from 27-40 are very into sucking dick. Mind u I fucked alot of my cousin friends so i personally know they about that action. Some of them hoes, some of them talk about what they do to their bf or husbands, most of them into swallowing but some not. I get to hear alot of their hoe stories, cheating stories, get to hear about their partners who not reppin lol I get to hear all types of bullshit but one thing is for sure sucking dick is on the table.

I believe every chick I fucked the last 10 yrs sucked me off. We grown its just apart of sex.
 
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I've been blessed then
Hasn't been my personal experience

I think back in highschool(97-01) that was the case. But once I hit the yard, getting dome period was like a handshake. Study partner??? Yup... "Youre such and suchs home boy???" Yup... "You work at Champs???" Yup... "You coming to my Spades party???" Yup... "Im going back home for Winter break, wanna chill before I go back???" :lol: Ahhh college... Almost worth the price of admission for the sex and stories alone!!!
 
I think back in highschool(97-01) that was the case. But once I hit the yard, getting dome period was like a handshake. Study partner??? Yup... "Youre such and suchs home boy???" Yup... "You work at Champs???" Yup... "You coming to my Spades party???" Yup... "Im going back home for Winter break, wanna chill before I go back???" :lol: Ahhh college... Almost worth the price of admission for the sex and stories alone!!!

Lmao lmao

So imagine how hard it was for me to get doom I went to High School 94-98

Times done changed now being a Stripper is a career now back then ya family would be ashamed of u but now they b posting up ya events on their social media pages
 
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Im always around my 2 female cousins one about to be 32, the other bout to be 29 which means I'm around their friends. Also always with my homegirl she's 35 which I use to fuck but we childhood friends so we stayed cool even tho we don't fuck anymore so I'm always around her friends also.

We have all types of BBQs, pool parties, card games, all types of events n these chicks ranging from 27-40 are very into sucking dick. Mind u I fucked alot of my cousin friends so i personally know they about that action. Some of them hoes, some of them talk about what they do to their bf or husbands, most of them into swallowing but some not. I get to hear alot of their hoe stories, cheating stories, get to hear about their partners who not reppin lol I get to hear all types of bullshit but one thing is for sure sucking dick is on the table.

I believe every chick I fucked the last 10 yrs sucked me off. We grown its just apart of sex.

I didn't say we don't do it lol...I just said we may have antiquated views around it. I'll be honest. When I was single, it was on the table if I was sleeping with somebody. But, I'm also the type to not talk about doing it...so, although it might be on the table, I wasn't advertising my skills either... Also, in college and grad school (late teens to mid 20s,) I don't think I was really into head. I don't think it started being on the menu until I got into my late 20s...like around the age Issa and her girlfriends are supposed to be. For me, it wasn't that I thought it was nasty, but I didn't think it was a "given" in relationships...like, I thought a man had to earn it.

Just trying to give the woman's perspective...and, hey, it may not even be every woman's perspective, but I think it's lost around here sometime...
 
I didn't say we don't do it lol...I just said we may have antiquated views around it. I'll be honest. When I was single, it was on the table if I was sleeping with somebody. But, I'm also the type to not talk about doing it...so, although it might be on the table, I wasn't advertising my skills either... Also, in college and grad school (late teens to mid 20s,) I don't think I was really into head. I don't think it started being on the menu until I got into my late 20s...like around the age Issa and her girlfriends are supposed to be. For me, it wasn't that I thought it was nasty, but I didn't think it was a "given" in relationships...like, I thought a man had to earn it.

Just trying to give the woman's perspective...and, hey, it may not even be every woman's perspective, but I think it's lost around here sometime...

The show was written by a well traveled younger Black woman from Cali, it's wasn't just you and your friends or a regional/age thing.
 
The show was written by a well traveled younger Black woman from Cali, it's wasn't just you and your friends or a regional/age thing.

Ya'll got a sista feeling like, damn, maybe I'm in the minority, though lol. Like, I'm married and I still don't talk about sex too much. I have a younger, married girlfriend that talks about "catching nut," and, ugh, it urks the hell out of me. Like, how obscene is that?!? lol. It's easy to be more vocal on a porn board about sex than in person with friends, though. These youngins all free with their shit, though lol.
 
Ya'll got a sista feeling like, damn, maybe I'm in the minority, though lol. Like, I'm married and I still don't talk about sex too much. I have a younger, married girlfriend that talks about "catching nut," and, ugh, it urks the hell out of me. Like, how obscene is that?!? lol. It's easy to be more vocal on a porn board about sex than in person with friends, though. These youngins all free with their shit, though lol.

I'm responding to you letting you know that you're not in the minority. Yes many in the younger generations are more open sexually, hey even older generations are sexually open. It honestly depends on the woman.
 
I didn't say we don't do it lol...I just said we may have antiquated views around it. I'll be honest. When I was single, it was on the table if I was sleeping with somebody. But, I'm also the type to not talk about doing it...so, although it might be on the table, I wasn't advertising my skills either... Also, in college and grad school (late teens to mid 20s,) I don't think I was really into head. I don't think it started being on the menu until I got into my late 20s...like around the age Issa and her girlfriends are supposed to be. For me, it wasn't that I thought it was nasty, but I didn't think it was a "given" in relationships...like, I thought a man had to earn it.

Just trying to give the woman's perspective...and, hey, it may not even be every woman's perspective, but I think it's lost around here sometime...

Always looking for a women's perspective especially on a board donated by men

It's a few females that hang around us that's not comfortable talking about their sex lives n that's cool that's just how they are its only like 4 of the chicks that would put it out there to strangers cause it's no shame in their game but majority of the time they talk loosely because we a tight circle that they know it's not gonna get outta the circle and you know who to talk in front of and who not too

As far as doing it to everybody I don't expect you to give every guy u mess with head because that's what hoes do

I just expect every chick I fuck to give me head lol I might not get it the 1st time or the 2nd but believe me imma get sum head because I make females feel extra comfortable you could get alot out of females when they don't feel like you trying to run game on them.

Mind u I hardly eat pussy so I'm damn sure not eating every chick's pussy that I fuck its just not gonna happen lol

I know it sounds dumb but I like to feel like I'm getting away with not doing it that turns me on. Lol
I have to be really feelin a chick to go down on em, really drunk, last resort to get the pussy for the 1st time, or in the mood to do it which hardly ever is the case.

Although I was messing with this married chick and I kissed her n ate the pussy every time we fucked idk why but I was just diggin her like that; mind you she only sucked me off twice. Certain ppl just special like that where they could get certain treatment from the opposite sex I feel like I could get females to suck it cause I'm that nikka
 
Ya'll got a sista feeling like, damn, maybe I'm in the minority, though lol. Like, I'm married and I still don't talk about sex too much. I have a younger, married girlfriend that talks about "catching nut," and, ugh, it urks the hell out of me. Like, how obscene is that?!? lol. It's easy to be more vocal on a porn board about sex than in person with friends, though. These youngins all free with their shit, though lol.

BTW, I'm married also

Well most ppl feel they could talk to complete strangers because they know it's not gonna come back on them.

I haven't met not one person on this board so I speak very freely (was in DR the same time as Slam we had pix in front of the same club with the same ppl in the screenary but that don't count lol)
 
Ya'll got a sista feeling like, damn, maybe I'm in the minority, though lol. Like, I'm married and I still don't talk about sex too much. I have a younger, married girlfriend that talks about "catching nut," and, ugh, it urks the hell out of me. Like, how obscene is that?!? lol. It's easy to be more vocal on a porn board about sex than in person with friends, though. These youngins all free with their shit, though lol.

I'm responding to you letting you know that you're not in the minority. Yes many in the younger generations are more open sexually, hey even older generations are sexually open. It honestly depends on the woman.

Yeah it depends on the woman. I had just started dating this woman that was 39 and at the sametime was messing with this other chick that was 46. The 39yr old would make sexual references all the time in TEXT messages but when i'd call her to hear her saying the stuff with my ears she'd quickly change the subject and act like she hadn't even said anything, she even told me one time that she likes texting because she feels comfortable saying anything thru text. The 46yr old was the total opposite, before I even fucked her we would talk about sex and she'd say stuff like she likes a guy to spread her buttcheeks and rub his dick up and down the crack and then find a hole to put it in and how she was gonna juggle my balls in her mouth:eek2::yes:.
 
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Issa now takes the place of Crispus Attucks as the shot heard round the world hit her in the face. Hopefully this will start a revolution too. That being said here are my stretched out thoughts for Hella Blows

  • That opposite side parking is no joke... snow plow or street sweeper tickets are rough
  • Molly you can't late work off being dick-ma-tized by Matt Barnes (Dro)
  • Molly avoiding momma calls because the pretty lie is preferable to the truth
  • Lakers talk isn't the way to get anyone excited Dro
  • FBI killed Fred Hampton shirt ....greatness
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  • Issa going full Rosa Parks in the back of the bus
  • Issa has that boomerang, she's throwing it out but men are throwing it back
  • Issa hotation is about having them, not being one
  • Sexplotation ...a place where women lie to their friends about sex
  • Fire? like this pussy.... um that sounds like a valtrex issue
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  • Issa's monologues in her mirror are hilarious
  • Neighbor Bae Eddie sang 'I'll call before I come...'
  • Nothing better than banging your Econ tutor (she demands, I'll supply)
  • Blood just gonna ask if she's going to Target (because Wal-Mart is too blue)
  • Blorox and Bleenex.... wait Kleenex is spelled with a K
  • Lawrence trying to present that stale app idea
  • Lawrence got that 'you're a credit to your race" black dismissive clap
  • Where is Lionel? probably deep in one of Molly's aunts
  • I fucked my friendship up.... you fucked your friend
  • What the hell are the Los Angeles wheelers?
  • What type of bumper is that $5,500
  • If all they say is I'm satisfied ...your kitty is trash (he has to brag for it to be good)
  • Aparna sounds like Alicia Keys, tried to keep it real with Lawrence
  • Matt and Molly like crispy fries and community dick nights
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  • Issa is dressed like a 14 year old trying to hard for Nico
  • Nico more impressed with the phone in a mug than Issa and a nut.
  • Nico hit her with a Bobby Valentino "Slow Down"
  • Did she just turn down a dinner date with a man who wants to respect her?
  • Matt Barnes has that game.... There's only one Molly ....now
  • Nice shoes, Woot Woot is blah.... we want Lawrence T-1000
  • Sexplotion has blow job tutorials, for big teeth chicks
  • Becky with the big mood ring
  • Tiffany knows the Joystick theory; work it right and his answer is mostly yes
  • Alicia Keys made an app called drive-by? (she wants Lawrence)
  • Daniel making a Black daft punk? I doubt he'll "get lucky"
  • Matt Barnes tells Molly she's a 2nd teamer.... my starter is calling (go fuck yourself)
  • Did Insecure just feature a cumshot on HBO ?
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  • After that shot Issa should perform "a children's story" eyepatch and all
  • Life and Daniel come at you fast Issa ...catch it or dodge it
  • Where's that eye wash station from science class? Issa has an emergency
  • Issa car pool! Uber has share-a-ride service?
  • There's a negro in the car can you play a black station so she's less hostile?
 
Issa
went through a wave of emotion tonight. Mad at Daniel then forgiveness then mad. Then cool to go to the party then fine when Lawrence was gonna be there then mad when she got blocked then kept her cool then he walks in and she's trying to get wasted.
Exits out of the party here comes good guy Lawrence who actually don't owe her shit I mean SHE cheated, but see how friends be when they not really YOUR friends? She fucked another cat and everybody acted like HE was wrong for moving on...even though if they had took the time to ask they would've known they ain't even dating and they work together. But don't let facts get in the way of a good shaming.
She was right to feel how she felt about Daniel.
I guess she's OK for getting all those things out about Lawrence but really she was lashing out over the situation and she realized that when she got home cause they said some shit they can't take back tonight.


Molly
LOL
I don't know why she thought she would come before his wife? You're like a side piece that's sanctioned. You cool and all and he likes your vagina but his wife comes first. Told her hang back after he fucked and nutted in her in the bathroom. Clearly he just getting his nuts off but trying to keep it friendly. Candace probably agrees to it for the reason that he's acting right now like she's the only woman in the world who matters. It is what it is.


BUTTER NIGGA


Lawrence.
Just one of them relationship dudes. I'm him. He even told ol girl I'm not trying to move too fast which like, it's weird. When you tell women stuff they hear what they want to hear sometimes. He just got through saying yea nah we just cool
and she said OK COOL how about you take me to your friends bday party knowing that if he said no it would make things hella weird between them immediately.
He couldn't laugh at the jokes and had to comfort her though she shouldn't have been there in the first place. He was honest, up front, his ex is going to be there and all that and still ended up having to console TWO WOMEN
Well he tried to console 2 women and then Issa went off on him and he called her a hoe. And he also had a right to WONDER how many ppl was she fucking? He had to psycho9logically beat the truth out of her the 1st time so why would he believe her now? The old it's not the first time you cheated it's the first time you got caught theory. Issa tried to punch him the gut and step on his dream with the app she knew that's what would really hurt him and she went for it and immediately regretted it

Like in any other setting everyone would say she was WRONG for fucking another nigga, shitting on him dealing with depression and clowning one of his life dreams
BUT
women
lol
fuck all that it's all good!
right?!?
 
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