*** HBO Boxing: Jean Pascal vs. Bernard Hopkins II - Official Thread ***

no the joppy fight was even worse than the beating he gave pavlik...i actually thought bernard was coming real close to killing that dude in the ring...i had never seen somebody's head swell up like that in a fight..i wanted that fight stopped

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B-Hop made Joppy look like the Elephant Man. :smh::smh:

Win or lose, Pascal will never be the same after he gets done fighting Hopkins.

Hopkins ruins fighters.

Trinidad, Winky, Pavlik, Oscar, Tarver, or Taylor were never the same after they fought this man.
 
The decision was bullshit and i saw Bernard eat the canvas twice.

Yeah it was. Bhop was robbed even with two scored knockdowns. Even Pascal said he was happy with the draw and that is telling. He knows that he lost that fight. and those were flash knockdowns too...bhop was never hurt....but from round 5 he put on a clinic...completely outclassed Pascal.... I dont think 6 months is going to be enough time for Pascal to solve his problems..we will see soon enough...
 
It should start right around 10 (well the pre fight videos and interviews will), I haven't heard anything about the undercards being televised so I would assume around 10:15-10:20

Sorry ass Chad Dawson is fighting on the undercard first.

He has now hired Emanuel Steward to train him, so we'll see how he fares tonight against Diaconu.
 
B-Hop made Joppy look like the Elephant Man. :smh::smh:

Win or lose, Pascal will never be the same after he gets done fighting Hopkins.

Hopkins ruins fighters.

Trinidad, Winky, Pavlik, Oscar, Tarver, or Taylor were never the same after they fought this man.

Yeah he does... he psychologically executes boxers..not really the physical abuse as much mental anguish... cats think the only way you can crush a boxer is by KO....but what he did to Trinidad for instance was much worse than 99 percent of KOs... Bhop has people questioning their ability to box afterwards.... If this fight goes anything like the first one, pascal is gonna have his hands full....I think he needs to hurt B-hop early or at least make Bhop feel he has the power to hurt him..because if not, I think Bhop is going to up the pace on him
 
no the joppy fight was even worse than the beating he gave pavlik...i actually thought bernard was coming real close to killing that dude in the ring...i had never seen somebody's head swell up like that in a fight..i wanted that fight stopped

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Joppy made a bet he wouldnt get knocked out

$40k i think it was

Keith Holmes represented DC better than Joppy did.:yes:

Joppy relied on that same lunging punch and got his ass beat.
 
BHop aint getting no better as a fighter. He peaked long ago. Pascal is in his prime and as stated his biggest issue was mechanics and decision making during that fight (and possibly endurance). That all can be improved upon. It is 2011, Bernard is washed the fuck up and running off the fumes provided by the doping he's doing. Pascal is 28 and still improving.

You brothers keep referencing the last fight as if it was an impressive performance by Bhop. The decision was bullshit and i saw Bernard eat the canvas twice. This nigga should have retired when he accomplished what he originally set out to do. He's pushing it now. Cant beat the clock, and my calendar says 2011. BHop cant win tonight. The post fight commentary will revolve around a tribute to his has been ass along with a reference to RJJ, another muthafucka who doesnt know when to say when .

I may be wrong, but i doubt it. Either way, i will be here to eat crow or gloat.

Your just talking just to talk now playboy.

It was an impressive fight by BHop last fight.

Pascal is improving? What are you basing this off of? Neither have fought since the last fight so Pascal could improve, or he could look ten times worse. Bhop could look like shit and old tonight, or he might school and beat the shit out of this young nigga.

Pascal's only problem was technique and decision making (and possibly endurance)? :lol::lol::lol: What else is there? You just basically said he's a shitty fighter who could improve:lol: Thats like saying the only problem with a basketball player is he's too out of shape to play past ten minutes, he has poor shooting technique which leads to missed shots, and he doesn't think when hes on the floor but, hey, he could improve, you never know:rolleyes:

BHop is on something? What is this based off of? Pascal screaming it in bad english doing a terrible Floyd Mayweather impression? Bhop has never been accused or suspected of taking PED's until Pascal said it and I've never heard it before then, not even a hint. When you realize how much of an outsider and how hated Bhop has been in this sport, especially by the media, you would know that if there was the slightest hint of him taking PED's they would have been destroyed him. You never know who's taking them but to just throw that out there is ridiculous.

But at the end of the day who knows this is boxing and anything can happen, but I do know based off of what you typed your full of shit tonight, even if you end up being right;)

cool thanks

No doubt you should try that TVU player for the fight they may have a clear pic, especially since its not PPV
 
Sorry ass Chad Dawson is fighting on the undercard first.

He has now hired Emanuel Steward to train him, so we'll see how he fares tonight against Diaconu.

Damn your right I forgot about that.

I think Chad may have his shit together and be focused again. I think he got too comfortable being the champ and fighting the same fighters over and over again made him sloppy and undisciplined. That with all the personal shit surrounding that fight (family, manager, moving out of Conn., etc.) which they discussed before the fight came on.

Emanuel Steward is a great trainer but he' hit or miss. Some fighters do great when they come under him, but some fighters digress when he takes over. If Chad gets with Manny's program, listens, and goes hard and they get along duke will be a beast, but if there is tension or Chad bullshits this shit will be disastrous (e.g. Taylor :smh:)
 
I think Chad just doesn't have a killer instinct - he has every other tool to make a world class champ though. I hope he proves me wrong. Shit, I thought Victor Ortiz didn't have any heart but he showed differently against Berto. I think Dawson/Diaconu could be a sleeper though. Diaconu is not a pushover.
 
I think Chad just doesn't have a killer instinct - he has every other tool to make a world class champ though. I hope he proves me wrong. Shit, I thought Victor Ortiz didn't have any heart but he showed differently against Berto. I think Dawson/Diaconu could be a sleeper though. Diaconu is not a pushover.

I can see that but I think he's shown flashes of it, just never been hungry enough to go hard. Its that division, for some reason even when there is talent there it just never works out and fighters languish there, doing just enough.

I saw that killer instinct in him in that fight with Pascal, I think he was closing in on him and may have got him. That loss may have been the best thing for Chad. Your right though Diaconu isn't a slouch, this could be interesting.
 
I can see that but I think he's shown flashes of it, just never been hungry enough to go hard. Its that division, for some reason even when there is talent there it just never works out and fighters languish there, doing just enough.

I saw that killer instinct in him in that fight with Pascal, I think he was closing in on him and may have got him. That loss may have been the best thing for Chad. Your right though Diaconu isn't a slouch, this could be interesting.

I don't know, that's the fight I was referring to. I mean, he had the talent and the power to dominate Pascal. He let Jean run away with that fight because he couldn't get himself motivated enough or whatever to do it, and he's looked that way to me in every fight I've seen him in. But maybe you're right and he woke up with the loss to Pascal but I wouldn't bet money on it. He just seems like too relaxed of a dude.
 
I don't know, that's the fight I was referring to. I mean, he had the talent and the power to dominate Pascal. He let Jean run away with that fight because he couldn't get himself motivated enough or whatever to do it, and he's looked that way to me in every fight I've seen him in. But maybe you're right and he woke up with the loss to Pascal but I wouldn't bet money on it. He just seems like too relaxed of a dude.

I hear you, I think this fight and the next few will answer those questions for good.

He definitely fought too relaxed and picked his spots (especially against Tarver and Johnson) and it not only hurt him in how he is perceived but also his marketability. He was comfortable with just winning and cruising in a fight without the hassle or trouble of going hard and it bit him in his ass in the Pascal fight.
 
I want Hop to get that title..but coming in overweight..even by a little bit has me worried because he is known for being in tip top shape. Hopefully it's just one of those things. He better get a KO or blowout though..no way he gets a decision in Canada unless he wins damn near every round.
 
I don't know, that's the fight I was referring to. I mean, he had the talent and the power to dominate Pascal. He let Jean run away with that fight because he couldn't get himself motivated enough or whatever to do it, and he's looked that way to me in every fight I've seen him in. But maybe you're right and he woke up with the loss to Pascal but I wouldn't bet money on it. He just seems like too relaxed of a dude.

Looks like you were Merce
 
Wow chad just lost and they gave him the decision. He got his ass wooped the whole fight and they cheated the other guy. Wow
 
I don't know what fight yall were watching.

Dawson clearly outclassed him.

Did you see how fucked up that dudes face was?
 
Your just talking just to talk now playboy.

It was an impressive fight by BHop last fight.

Pascal is improving? What are you basing this off of? Neither have fought since the last fight so Pascal could improve, or he could look ten times worse. Bhop could look like shit and old tonight, or he might school and beat the shit out of this young nigga.
Reading comprehension isnt your strong suit eh? Actually basic reading may be an issue for as well. I clearly stated that as a boxer in his prime Pascal can still be a work in progress. He is still at a point in his career where he can become a better fighter. I base my opinions on the fact that he is still in his prime. Hopkins on the other hand has fought his best fight. His ceiling was reached long ago.
Pascal's only problem was technique and decision making (and possibly endurance)? :lol::lol::lol: What else is there? You just basically said he's a shitty fighter who could improve:lol: Thats like saying the only problem with a basketball player is he's too out of shape to play past ten minutes, he has poor shooting technique which leads to missed shots, and he doesn't think when hes on the floor but, hey, he could improve, you never know:rolleyes:
Stop rolling your eyes like a ole ho. You're a man, so discuss your point like one. Now, if you're gonna attempt to address my point do so accurately and dont address shit you make up. I never said "only". I was responding to the poster i quoted who used the term "biggest". I said his "biggest" issues were the ones i listed. I based that on the post of that poster. The point was that all those were areas where improvements and progression can be made, as opposed to say areas of hand speed, ability to take a punch and strength which cant really be coached.
BHop is on something? What is this based off of? Pascal screaming it in bad english doing a terrible Floyd Mayweather impression? Bhop has never been accused or suspected of taking PED's until Pascal said it and I've never heard it before then, not even a hint. When you realize how much of an outsider and how hated Bhop has been in this sport, especially by the media, you would know that if there was the slightest hint of him taking PED's they would have been destroyed him. You never know who's taking them but to just throw that out there is ridiculous.
I dont know if the cat is or isnt. It was speculation, and to say im the first person to utter it is bullshit.

But at the end of the day who knows this is boxing and anything can happen, but I do know based off of what you typed your full of shit tonight, even if you end up being right;)

No doubt you should try that TVU player for the fight they may have a clear pic, especially since its not PPV
This is a fucking cop out. You type all that tripe only to end up by saying i may be right? Now tell me who is talking to just to talk again playboy?
 
I don't know what fight yall were watching.

Dawson clearly outclassed him.

Did you see how fucked up that dudes face was?

the casual boxing fans man.... they see a completely different fight because they really dont understand the sweet science :smh:
 
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