Man I give man. some of you niggas is like talking to a brick wall
Keep moving that goal post bruh
Niggas like me DESIGNED the post....
Has LeBron Passed Kobe?
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Niggas like me DESIGNED the post....
Okay then fine. Let me try it again...
Post whatever subjective data point that compelled you to make that statement then.
Post whatever subjective data point that compelled you to make that statement then.
It was all good just a week ago...
Before Game 3, it was "We waited 15 years to see from Jordan to this."
If the Heat lose tonight, this past week-- from the moment they evened the series at a game apiece, stealing homecourt advantage, to the Spurs nearly sweeping them tonight-- may be the single greatest one week downturn in an athletes stock ever.
Let's see the results for the alleged greater player -
2005 - Led team to last place in worst division in basketball
2006 - 1st round playoff exit
2007 - 1st round playoff exit
2008 - 6th seed and headed towards missing playoffs until Pau Gasol saved the day.
and people really expect themselves to be taken serious in any basketball related discussion comparing someone like that to LeBron.
The guy who hasn't won a playoff game without Kobe saved the day? Why should we take you serious? Ever since your pops left, you have been trying to take the mantle but it's just not working.
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So in 18 years, he was only the best player in the league 2 seasons? You call him a great scorer, but he only had 2 scoring titles in 18 years? You are blaming his failures on the level of competition?
The shit does not add up, literally. #1 I am not young, #2 I saw him fail time and time again, don't need know internet to think for me. The proof is in the pudding. In 18 seasons, he really did not accomplish as much as it seems, playing with Shaq helped him learn how to win. Take it or leave it.
Nah, the only people getting upset were the people that can't count. The other ones don't want to get risk getting tore out of the fire, so we have no problems.
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The Kobe hate is strong with this post lol.
You DO realize that EVEN JORDAN (who was clearly the best player IN THE NBA) didn't win MVP every single year RIGHT? So the MILLION dollar question is this...How much value should YOU (the one who is using the MVP as the foundation of you ENTIRE argument) put into an MVP when Steve Nash won it twice?
C'mon man....your entire argument is in the gutter with two bullets in the back in the head...
It's not Kobe hate....it's a bunch of new generation muthafuckas trying to take something versus earning something...
Clearly those are some dumb ass muthafuckas....A bunch of dumb asses with ZERO insight making stupid assertions...Go in to get a cut, leave with a migraine.
You DO realize that EVEN JORDAN (who was clearly the best player IN THE NBA) didn't win MVP every single year RIGHT? So the MILLION dollar question is this...How much value should YOU (the one who is using the MVP as the foundation of you ENTIRE argument) put into an MVP when Steve Nash won it twice?
C'mon man....your entire argument is in the gutter with two bullets in the back in the head...
Jordan and Lebron did not play 18 fucking seasons either to reach their goals. Jordan only played 10 full seasons with the Bulls. 6 MVPs in 10 full seasons is greatness. Only took Lebron 10 or 11 seasons to trump all his individual shit. When y'all learn to count to 18, hit me back!
Now you know why niggas hate math. Who else can't count? Don't try to bring Nash into it, the thread is not about Nash.
Jordan and Lebron did not play 18 fucking seasons either to reach their goals. Jordan only played 10 full seasons with the Bulls. 6 MVPs in 10 full seasons is greatness. Only took Lebron 10 or 11 seasons to trump all his individual shit. When y'all learn to count to 18, hit me back!
Who else can't count? Don't try to bring Nash into it, the thread is not about Nash.
Bruh...you MISSED the point...It's not about the number of seasons..it's about the fact that YOU SHOULD NOT be placing a lot of emphasis on MVP trophies. THAT SHIT is a marketing ploy. You're talking about hating math when you FAIL at LOGIC.
Who has been the most popular player in the NBA for the last 18 seasons? Google that shit Mr. Logic, that shit did not help him win more than 2 scoring titles....
Can't keep running from the facts and numbers. The truth hurts like a motherfucker!!
Lebron > Kobe
Let's see the results for the alleged greater player -
2005 - Led team to last place in worst division in basketball
2006 - 1st round playoff exit
2007 - 1st round playoff exit
2008 - 6th seed and headed towards missing playoffs until Pau Gasol saved the day.
Popular player?
Yep, Kobe was the most popular player, but he got no votes for season MVP's, I wonder why?
If he only won 2 scoring titles in 18 seasons, what was he really great at?
Ether.Really?
When did having 2 rings become better than having 5?
STFU.
That Ring Argument is so Lame and Tired.
Rings are a TEAM Accomplishment.
This is the reason I fell back from being a Hardcore Kobe supporter.. Because there are Too Many delusional Kobe supporters out there.
I sonned this youngster so bad with facts when he was arguing Kobe was the greatest player ever that he was in tears
There are a lot of people between the ages of 21 and 31 who think Kobe is the GOAT
He has the most delusional core fan base of any single athlete
Word my brother. The best IS kobe
This has to Hurt for the Lebron supporters though...
dude is Blowing another Championship, allowing the Kobetards to come out of the Wood works to start back up Lame ass Kobe vs Lebron talks.
If Lebron would just take care of Business, we wouldnt have to deal w/ seeing Corny ass Niggas comparing him to the Most Overrated Player in the History of the NBA (Kobe).
I blame this shit on Lebron.
Yep, Kobe was the most popular player, but he got no votes for season MVP's, I wonder why?
If he only won 2 scoring titles in 18 seasons, what was he really great at?
Wow. If you talk like this, I wonder how the people in the shop sound.
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Lebron damn near does EVERYTHING better than Kobe..scores more and more efficiently. Which might be expected from a forward except Lebron scores just as much from the perimeter as the post. He even has the better numbers in areas you would expect from a guard, like assist and steals. If Kobe had to share the ball with a great such as Shaq, how would that account for his lesser assist and steals??
Cats think Kobe is better based on his circus shots and because "he wants it more"..
Cats think Kobe is better based on his circus shots and because "he wants it more"..
Lebron damn near does EVERYTHING better than Kobe..scores more and more efficiently. Which might be expected from a forward except Lebron scores just as much from the perimeter as the post. He even has the better numbers in areas you would expect from a guard, like assist and steals. If Kobe had to share the ball with a great such as Shaq, how would that account for his lesser assist and steals??
Cats think Kobe is better based on his circus shots and because "he wants it more"..
Clearly wanting it more and having talent is greater than simply having talent. Clearly wanting it more has MERIT...5 RINGS.
5 is more than 2
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Kobe is the more skilled player. Lebron might be a better team player, a very solid player overall. If Lebron has surpassed Kobe, I believe it's only because Kobe is no longer in his prime. I've always had a problem ranking Lebron over Kobe even today. I'm just not ready to say Lebron is the better player.
Dope Article.
For me MJ is the bar. Damn the stats
Lebron- First of his kind. Star since day 1. I hate how they try to manufacture stats to compare him to Jordan. The hype was/still is retarded. He lived up to it. Imma go ahead and say it. He is in decline. It will be interesting to see how he handles this part of his career and how he adjusts. So much of his game is im bigger, stronger, faster. Right now, he is a better leader than Kobe was at this same stage. If he retires today top 10
Kobe- Top 5. Off the court issues cost him a MVP or 2. Locker room issues cost him a Chip or 2. Again not the best leader. He had to learn the hard way. Cant question the heart or work ethic. Playing through injury and getting better as he aged. That contract kills us (Laker Fans) Lets be real. Top 3 Shooting guards in NBA history...MJ, Bean, and....
By going to Miami Lebron put himself in a position where we have to judge him by Championships. 2-2 is not bad. 4 straight finals is huge. Lets see how it plays out.
Right now give me Kobe
For me MJ is the bar. Damn the stats
Lebron- First of his kind. Star since day 1. I hate how they try to manufacture stats to compare him to Jordan. The hype was/still is retarded. He lived up to it. Imma go ahead and say it. He is in decline. It will be interesting to see how he handles this part of his career and how he adjusts. So much of his game is im bigger, stronger, faster. Right now, he is a better leader than Kobe was at this same stage. If he retires today top 10
Kobe- Top 5. Off the court issues cost him a MVP or 2. Locker room issues cost him a Chip or 2. Again not the best leader. He had to learn the hard way. Cant question the heart or work ethic. Playing through injury and getting better as he aged. That contract kills us (Laker Fans) Lets be real. Top 3 Shooting guards in NBA history...MJ, Bean, and....
By going to Miami Lebron put himself in a position where we have to judge him by Championships. 2-2 is not bad. 4 straight finals is huge. Lets see how it plays out.
Right now give me Kobe
This has to Hurt for the Lebron supporters though...
dude is Blowing another Championship, allowing the Kobetards to come out of the Wood works to start back up Lame ass Kobe vs Lebron talks.
If Lebron would just take care of Business, we wouldnt have to deal w/ seeing Corny ass Niggas comparing him to the Most Overrated Player in the History of the NBA (Kobe).
I blame this shit on Lebron.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/311555-why-kobejordan-debate-is-closer-than-it-seems
whatever..
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