Floyd Mayweather Argues With Radio Host Rude Jude Of All Out Show
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I will say this... Floyd is definitely the biggest star in the sport right now... We have a thread about his beef with Jude, and it's now 8 PAGES, and I don't believe Jude has been mentioned since the 4th page!!! 
It is what it is... 
It is what it is...
Dude wouldn't have dare said that in person face to face!
Sure he would. Floyd ain't stupid. N***a pride and lose a shitload of money and get jail time for battery. N***a logic. Floyd ain't that stupid.
Reaching...
You might want to listen to the interview again. Rude Jude went in on Floyd from the beginning.
The host name is Rude Jude.
Something tells me you don't get a name like that by just voicing your opinions.
If Jude was a fan you could not tell it by that interview.
He clearly wanted to antagonize Floyd and succeeded in doing that. From the beginning he had a antagonistic tone. He opened up by accusing him of ducking fights and making the idiotic comment because he fight Pac on steroids he's ducking him. WTF!? Then proceeded to call Floyd sensitive for being upset at that. WTF!?
Just stating his opinion? Lets not act like RUDE JUDE was just acting civil and Floyd just started talking shit for no reason.
Dude Doesn't sound like a fan that believes in Floyd to me and hurling ad hominem attacks isn't just voicing his opinion.
So, Floyd getting a shot in his hands before a fight that's only allowed in Nevada and banned everywhere else isn't an unnatural advantage? I'm just asking for all the folks talking about Floyd doesn't want to face Manny if he has an unnatural advantage in their fight
Don't do it man.. again, for the BGOL crew, there is a different set of rules for Floyd than other fighters... you just wasted about 200 keystrokes my man...
Don't do it man.. again, for the BGOL crew, there is a different set of rules for Floyd than other fighters... you just wasted about 200 keystrokes my man...
I just want to see if anyone would have a reasonable answer to that
I think anyone will with common sense will say those shots should be against the rules in Nevada. I don't know if Floyd is still doing it. He says he isn't but who knows. The only defense that could be made of that shit is that it is legal for both guys... but that doesn't make it right imo and I don't agree with it. I would even suggest that Manny should bring up in as a request in negotiations so that shit is banned for that fight.
^^^^^^
What shots are y'all talking about?
Regardless, that's between him and whoever agrees to get into the ring with him. I truly don't give a fuck if Pac is juicing or not, but I don't have to get in the ring with Pac. This is the steroids era, so it's completely understandable that Floyd wants testing for anyone he risks his well being to fight.
If anyone fighting Floyd saw that these shots aren't allowed anywhere except Nevada and felt it gave Floyd an unfair advantage, then they should demand that he doesn't do it.
What shots are y'all talking about?
Regardless, that's between him and whoever agrees to get into the ring with him. I truly don't give a fuck if Pac is juicing or not, but I don't have to get in the ring with Pac. This is the steroids era, so it's completely understandable that Floyd wants testing for anyone he risks his well being to fight.
If anyone fighting Floyd saw that these shots aren't allowed anywhere except Nevada and felt it gave Floyd an unfair advantage, then they should demand that he doesn't do it.
I don't understand why anyone would argue differently.
It is an unnatural advantage. If you can't fight without pain killer then maybe you shouldn't be fighting.
Thing is I don't think Xylocaine is considered a PED it's a pain killer.
In Nevada, correct me if I'm wrong you can ask permission to use certain meds and you must disclose the use of any medications between the weigh-in and the fight.
Basically.
Correct me if I'm wrong but there is no body of laws that govern negotiations for the boxers.
It's whatever they agree to.
If both them mofos agree to use steroids for their next fight I'm cool with it.
It doesn't diminish the fight for me.
Whatever they agree to fine.
Just make the fight happen.
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Well, the shots numb his hands because he says his hands are fucked up. So, essentially, he's able to keep punching with no feeling or pain in his hand thus, giving him an unfair advantage since boxers hands weaken after rounds of using them
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We understand that we know what advantage it can give you but like I was saying I don't think the commission see it as a PED so it gets a pass.
I see what you're saying but, if it was really cool for people to do, it wouldn't be banned everywhere else except Nevada, which is the only place Floyd prefers to fight. I just think he can't really be on some "clean up boxing" shit and say that's why he needs Manny to take a test when he does something that gives him a certain advantage over other fighters
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Upgrade Dave said:
For the life of me, I will never understand how a nigga with damn near 20,000 posts on a porno board could take the time from beating his shit to call another person "corny"
If you had ANY knowledge of the fight game then you would know that Mayweather won his first title in 1998. Eric Morales (a sure fire Hall of Famer when he hangs them up), who your hairy palm having ass probably have never heard of, was the WBC Boxer of the year...PBF had no intention of fighting him...nor Barrera, another sure fire Hall of Famer, who was out there when PBF was making all these claims about being the best that ever did it. Pac Man rocked with both of them and gave them the business.
Yet you say some shit about fighters from another whole fucking time period?
I should have expected no less....
Wait so to understand this... All I hear from cats is Marquez and Hatton were too small... So he was supposed to fight Barrera and Morales who fought at smaller weight classes their whole careers.
Okay... that's fine with me.
Did they show any interest to move up and fight Mayweather? I don't remember anything like that. Why would they when they were bigger names than Mayweather until their downward spiral in the mid 2000's and they also had comp at their weight classes with bigger names so why would Mayweather be a concern?
I guess Mayweather should have went down to a weight he never fought at in his professional career and demanded those fights from guys who would have said who are you.
That makes no sense, but I might be wrong... please show me something where they were saying Floyd ducked them or anything that would make any of that click.
I get the hate is strong, but come on...
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Uh, Barrera and Morales were nowhere near 130 at that time. They hadn't even duked it out at 122 yet in their first classic fight that I saw live. That was in 2000. By the time Floyd won his first title, people were saying Barrera's candle had burnt out after losing consecutively to Junior Jones. Or did you forget about this?
Hell, prior to the first fight with Morales, everyone thought Morales was going to run Barrera over. Afterwards, Morales moved up to 126 and was going life or death with the likes of Guty Espadas Jr. and In-Jin Chi. Neither guy didn't hit 130 until 2003/04.
Morales vs Espatas Jr. I
The fight with In-Jin Chi has been removed on YT.
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1. Some might say Hamed was the greatest (the Ring actually had him as a favotite against Jr. Lightweight Floyd--unbelievable). And during Floyd's run he is most definitely one of the top fighters of HIS era--which is what you're saying. I would go with B-Hop as the best during that run. He fought them all--handwrap controversy and all. Though my only critique agan=inst these guys is that they had very few fights in a year. The old-timers fought way more. And that's who Floyd compares himself to.
2. Once again, would Floyd have tasken a fight versus Manny had he violated a rule??????????
I don't recall Hagler making demands.
3. If it doesn;t help a chin, then what's the fuss (there SHOULD be one--cheaters hurt sports). And this is not cycling. Yea, it helps athletes recover from injuries. But in fights, if you don't have the technique, heart or, CHIN, you're toast.
The Corrales fight killed any of that talk. Floyd called him out in the post fight interview. Larry Merchant quickly dismissed that, and rightfully so, saying "Prince Naseem isn't going to fight you. After he's seen this, it ain't gonna happen."
I thought it was BS from the jump. Only the tru greats could have fought that Floyd and had a chance.
But therein lies the problem. AT THE TIME< some people thought Hamed was that good. Some people are saying Floyd is the best ever. Some are saying Manny. I say neither.
The only damning part on Floyd as he moved up in weight is that he called out money fights not the best fights. He also said he would fight certain fighters, who, AT THE TIME, represented the biggest threat to him. Margacheato, Cotto, and some --very few--would argue Clottey. Pac fought and beat them all--and the rest fought each other. Jr. Lightweight-lightweight Floyd fought nothing but the best. after that..eh..
0:45 sec mark
More lies from Bob "Yesterday, I was lying. Today I'm telling the truth" Arum
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2420382
According to Arum, Mayweather turned down the career-best purse to meet Margarito on Aug. 12 on HBO Pay-Per-View, instead opting for free agency by buying Arum out of their deal for $750,000.
Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com that Mayweather passed on the fight not because he is ducking Margarito, but because he couldn't be ready to fight by Aug. 12. Mayweather injured his right hand during a dominating April 8 victory against Zab Judah.
"Floyd is not 100 percent healthy," Ellerbe said. "He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It's bruised, but it's a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it.
The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.
Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.
Arum has a case of sour grapes. He started with that shit after Floyd left him and this was beginning of the Top Rank vs GBP fued.
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Alaskanredman said:
Besides the point that they were too small (Pac-Man is too small to fight him...but PBF don't want it...I know...I know...Pac Man is on steroids), I have never used this against Mayweather. My position against Mayweather is that I don't feel his resume' is good enough to say he's anything but an entertainer who can fight very well.
Alaskanredman said:
You have a point here. They had their own wars to look after, which is why the boxing public looks at them and says they didn't fight any tin cans.
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I can't get PBF fans on record saying that he's ducking Pac Man either...but we know he is, no matter how "butthurt" PBF's fans may get about thinking of the notion.
Let's just say that those names would look much better on his resume' than Chop Chop Corley...and all the rest of the washed up palookas he has fought after their start has stopped shining.
da_monumental_1 said:
In the words of Rude Jude of Jenny Jones fame..."You can't be sensitive AND duck fights!"
PBF has NEVER wanted to fight either of these two. I can't even recall the last time he's defended ANY title against a LEGIT #1 contender. That said, when you actually fight for a living and are not a sideshow promoter...you come across a person that has your number, Shoulder Pads had Barrera's number...afterwards Barrera became the same type of fighter he was, even going so far as to end the career of the 1st PBF, Naseem Hamed.
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It's called FIGHTING...not BOXING like bitch-ass PBF affectionately calls it. I'm glad those MMA's cats checked his Hide-N-Go Seek ass when he started talking that "Boxing" shit. He didn't challenge them like he challenged fucking Rude Jude...hell, he won't even challenge Pac Man in public. You are going to win some and lose some when you lace them up with a man who has a legit chance to take your head off.
http://www.boxingscene.com/floyd-mayweather-top-rank-protected-cotto-from-me--43832
By the way, I don't know why anyone ever believed any hype about Margarito. He lost to journeymen. He was always a bum and after he had the biggest win against Cotto, we of course, find out he is a cheater...
and this was all after Floyd retired. Margarito was basically Baldomir without the win over Zab Judah and people act as if Baldomir was a fucked up choice. Also Mosely beats Margarito and he demands a fight with Floyd when Shane, still very much in his prime, clearly ducked Floyd. Like I said before people want to believe a narrative, but the details don't support the shit. Floyd is a bad guy and bad guys would duck fights, but the problem is that the facts say something different. I realize a lot of guys got it in their heads that Floyd is full of shit, which is fine, but I haven't seen anything to contradict his claims that other guys didn't want to fight him at the time when people say he was ducking all this people.
If both people can do it then what are you crying about?
There is no advantage when both of them can do it. It's an agreement.....they agreed when they signed that contract to fgt in vagas.
Roids aren't legal under any commision
I posted a video were his is calling out the best fighters he could and when he is ask later in the video why those fights didn't happen. He says they didn't want to fight him. If the there is any counter statement from those fighters... I've haven't seen it... if you have some thing please educate me. Otherwise, how is he to blame because other boxers didn't want to fight him.
Yet, by using the logic used against Floyd... Floyd was the toughest comp for them so they should have said fuck the fights at their weight, moved up and taken him on regardless if the fight did nothing for them.
Probably because Floyd called out Pac when everyone was saying he should fight Mosley and Floyd didn't break off the negotiations... Pac did because of blood testing. Floyd tried to compromise on the testing when it shouldn't even be something that should be compromised on and it wasn't enough.
We can say a lot of names would look good on people's resume, but if the details don't make sense... they simply don't make sense.
I always wonder why guys jump out there with bullshit and then when I come at them with facts and logical arguments... they admit the shit is flimsy and are still like 'yeah, but' without anything to really say.
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You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
Mayweather's last fight at 130 was in 2001 against Jesus Chavez. Barrera and Morales has just battled it out the previous year in 2000 in a Super Bantamweight title fight. Just in case you don't know, that's two weight divisions below Floyd at 122lbs. Barrera and Morales didn't start fighting at 130 until 2004 (Barrera) and 2003 (Morales). In 2004, Floyd was fighting at Junior Welterweight (140lbs.).
Mosley, coming off his win over Margarito, was the man at 147. Cotto was ranked number two with Margarito and Clottey bringing up the rear. Mayweather went straight for the number one guy in Mosley. Pacquiao wasn't even ranked as he went back down to 140 after the De La Hoya fight to fight Hatton. Freddie Roach is on record stating that a Mosley fight is one the he would avoid. Then, he states if they do fight, it has to be at a catchweight of 142 or 143lbs. After watching Mosley's fight with Mora, he changes his mind and negotiations start. The rest is history.
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/02/sports/la-sp-dwyre-pacquiao2-2010feb02
"Shane came to the gym twice to ask me to let him fight Manny," Roach says. "I told him no both times, and both times for the same two reasons: First, there isn't enough money there, and second, you're too good a fighter."
Fight with Mosley only at a catchweight of 142/143 lbs.
When asked if he would fight Mayweather after KO'ing Hatton, Pacquiao started that I'll fight who my promoter tells me to fight bullshit.
When asked if he would fight Mayweather after TKO'ing Cotto, Pacquiao started that I'll fight who my promoter tells me to fight bullshit, spend time with my family, and take a vacation. When directly asked who he wanted to fight next, he responded I want to spend time with my family and go on vacation.
When asked if he would fight Mayweather after decisioning Clottey, I'll fight him, but Mayweather needs to win his fight with Mosley before thinking about fighting me.
When asked if he would fight Mayweather after decisioning Margarito, I'm not scared to fight anyone, but check with my promoter.
Opinions vs. facts again. It's a bitch, ain't it?
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But maybe YOU can explain how impossible it is to beat someone on steroids...explain to us how it gives them SUPER inhuman HULK like strength.Then explain how foolish it would be for Floyd to fight him..and how he'd be sure to be KO'D...cuz Manny "might" be on roids
Dude really? I'm done.....
http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=629030
Now, dm1, you know I got a lot of respect for you.
Arum, King, DLH/GBP, And now Floyd are all promoters, aka masters of hyperbole. Arum said, countered by Floyd said, countered by Ellerbe said, countered by --NOT FIGHTING, ONLY TALKING. And Pac is now in politics, so I def don't believe him either (buying a motor for fisherman then buying a Ferrari for himself)
But back to Floyd:
C'mon now. FLoyd has been a popluar fighters for many years now. Longer than Pac. DId RJJ really want a rematch with BHop? No, even though he was the money fighter. Did Hamed want a fight with piss drinker JMM? NO, even though he was the money fighter. Did Tyson really want a fight with Lennox when he was past his prime? No. Even though he was definitely the MONEY FIGHTER.
Floyd could have had this fight a long time ago. Manny could have had this fight recently. Like I said before, I'll be glad once they retire.
So you are posting a video about who is next after Ortiz and I get your point that he lied about naming Manny as his next opponent, but he hasn't fought anyone since then or named anyone else and everything they have stated since then is that they want Manny...
I don't understand your post.
Not everyone is old enough to have grown up watching pernell whitaker for one. Two he's not better than floyd I've watched him several times on espn classic and online.
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