Floyd Mayweather Argues With Radio Host Rude Jude Of All Out Show

[Zeferino]

the same can be said about DLH....May beat him at 154 Pac drained him for that win...regardless Hatton was undefeated & wasn't it him that called out Floyd...he was 140 champ in his prime....by the time Pac got to him he was done....

all that up & down with his weight caught up to him IMO...

fam who was the last prime fighter Pac beat?

154 wasn't the greatest weight for DLH either. Regardless, DLH was considered the favorite in the fight against Pac. Hatton was never considered the favorite against Mayweather. Looking back, people want to say DLH was drained but before the fight happened nobody was saying this. Even DLH was saying he felt so strong at the weight he might go to 140 after the fight. Regardless, DLH was shot at probably any weight at this point. I don't think it had to do with any weight drain. Shit, DLH was even way past his prime when Mayweather fought him. I don't talk shit about Pac's win over DLH because he surprised everyone with that performance and it's not fair to try and cheapen his win just because he kicked ass.

Regarding Hatton when he fought Pac. I agree that by the time Pac got to him he had seen better days but he was still the man at 140 and I can't argue with that. He was the man and the champ and Pac fought him at his best weight.

Regarding Pac, the last fighter he fought in his prime was probably Clottey unless you want to count Cotto. I would say the version of Cotto that he got was still better than Victor Ortiz.

 

[Alaskanredman]

To end the Hatton shit.

Hatton fought at 140 his whole career and walked around at 180. Floyd has move up several weight classes in his career and I think he started professionally at 130 so cut out the weight shit. Hatton went life and death with Collazo cause Collazo was underrated like a motherfucker and Hatton was overrated. Does that change the fact that Hatton beat Kostya... the guy, Floyd moved up to fight, but Kostya choose Hatton while Floyd changed course chasing Cotto. Hatton made himself worthy of fighting the best and then Hatton started calling out Floyd so Floyd fought him. Hatton made the choice to move up and he talked that shit when no one else was.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Really when Ali was talking that shit back when he was Cassius... he had more substance than Floyd now... or was Ali talking that shit then because knew he was great before he could show it to the world and was going to make spectacle of himself to make people take notice. People hated him because of it. When Floyd dropped the clean cut shit and switched the program... people started to hate him too. Same shit and the old white guys at my job have already confirmed this for me. Blackness, cockiness and talking... turns white people and others off.

Funny thing is Dude, in essence, you and I are sort of saying the same thing. All I'm saying is, Floyd doesn't have any substance. All Floyd does is for Floyd. He claims he is doing this for the betterment of Boxing, but if anyone believes that shit, I have some ocean front property on Nebraska to sell you... Ali did have substance... I can guarantee you, if faced with stripping of titles and potential jail time for ANY cause, boxing related or otherwise, Floyd would cave like a house of cards in a Hurricane! Plus, Ali didn't have the 'moral' issues Floyd faces, all in all, I believe he was a better person of more substance. That being said, and I do appreciate the back and forth, we must agree to disagree on the issue of the reasoning Floyd doesn't want to take this fight with Manny at this time, but we both do agree inside the ring, Floyd is a phenomenal talent who, all external issues aside, won't be truly appreciated until he is gone...

 

[P03t]

154 wasn't the greatest weight for DLH either. Regardless, DLH was considered the favorite in the fight against Pac. Hatton was never considered the favorite against Mayweather. Looking back, people want to say DLH was drained but before the fight happened nobody was saying this. Even DLH was saying he felt so strong at the weight he might go to 140 after the fight. Regardless, DLH was shot at probably any weight at this point. I don't think it had to do with any weight drain. Shit, DLH was even way past his prime when Mayweather fought him. I don't talk shit about Pac's win over DLH because he surprised everyone with that performance and it's not fair to try and cheapen his win just because he kicked ass.

Regarding Hatton when he fought Pac. I agree that by the time Pac got to him he had seen better days but he was still the man at 140 and I can't argue with that. He was the man and the champ and Pac fought him at his best weight.

Regarding Pac, the last fighter he fought in his prime was probably Clottey unless you want to count Cotto. I would say the version of Cotto that he got was still better than Victor Ortiz.

good post...Cotto was ruined by Marg....Pac was the nail in the coffin IMO for Cotto...

 

[Alaskanredman]

Funny thing is Dude, in essence, you and I are sort of saying the same thing. All I'm saying is, Floyd doesn't have any substance. All Floyd does is for Floyd. He claims he is doing this for the betterment of Boxing, but if anyone believes that shit, I have some ocean front property on Nebraska to sell you... Ali did have substance... I can guarantee you, if faced with stripping of titles and potential jail time for ANY cause, boxing related or otherwise, Floyd would cave like a house of cards in a Hurricane! Plus, Ali didn't have the 'moral' issues Floyd faces, all in all, I believe he was a better person of more substance. That being said, and I do appreciate the back and forth, we must agree to disagree on the issue of the reasoning Floyd doesn't want to take this fight with Manny at this time, but we both do agree inside the ring, Floyd is a phenomenal talent who, all external issues aside, won't be truly appreciated until he is gone...

What are you even talking about... I'm talking about why they are hated and you are talking about something else. I could careless if Floyd is cleaning up the sport or not... if the testing motives are pure or not... All I can say is why the fuck not... I don't understand the push back.

 

[Damn Right]

Yeah That was the HIGHLIGHT of the WHOLE Dialog!!! Floyd really showed him who's boss with that Zinger there!!! Hilarious!!!!

even a slow, dim witted mutha fuka like you got it

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

even a slow, dim witted mutha fuka like you got it

...........

 

[I.V. League]

Jude better watch out

 

[Top_Bunk]

Ude used the "eminem technique" which made it sound lik he won.

"I am white I do live with my mom....my friend future is an uncle tom...I do have a friend named cheddar bob that shot himself wth his own gun"

Instead jude said "I talk about you for a living" and said it as if that's cool. "I ride your dick for a living".

Just cuz u diss yourself doesn't negate the points you just made for flyod. Lol think his bitchass is slick. You know you are winnin when u got aother person maing your points and the points u make are dumb. "He beats them worse then you do".

It's easy to do that and say that when flyod has exposed ya ass and made the blueprint and flyod also plays with his opponents. What about marquez....pac didn't beat him worse.....in fact got his ass whooped twice. Then talk about how flyod was bigger....but turn around and sa he should fight pac with or w/out roids.

 

[Top_Bunk]

Roger mayweather said it best "most people don't know shit about boxing"

Calling flyod's fights boring....why? Because u see more skill and not just a nigga bum rushing in and throwing and swinging for whatever?

Flyod is a technician.....nothing boring about a fighter that knows how to fight. I guess people have to have knock downs, knockouts, big haymaker combo's for it to be excitin

 

[will_right]

Floyd fight him anyways, it dosen't matter if he's on steroids. You're bigger than him, wtf? People don't understand the impact of a person that may be on steriods or cycling.

But maybe YOU can explain how impossible it is to beat someone on steroids...explain to us how it gives them SUPER inhuman HULK like strength.Then explain how foolish it would be for Floyd to fight him..and how he'd be sure to be KO'D...cuz Manny "might" be on roids

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Nope. SOmeone like Hagler, Ezzard Charles, Charley Burley, Sam Langford. Those are the best. They fought EVERYONE and were clear in many of their victories. Floyd was of that ilk as a Jr. Lightweight. The fighters previously mentioned were like that ALL THE TIME.

Depending on your age, Mayweather is the best fighter you're ever going to see.

Only if Jude takes the test!!!

Floyd and his people tried to use bully tactics on Pac and were told to go fuck themselves... Those tactics don't work on everybody. Thing is, Manny doesn't give a fuck about the US market, and he's a MUCH bigger personality and celebrity among his own people in his own country than Floyd is here... so again, he doesn't need Floyd for shit!

I'm black and quite frankly, this thing with throwing racism up every time there is a difference of opinion is getting old, it's juvenile, and actually it's getting quite boring and predictable. There was nothing racist Jude said to Floyd during that whole confrontation Nothing! Starting to sound like some we shall overcome whiners at this point!! This is not an issue of race but of two fighters who have a difference of opinion on something and people have a right to take sides... So, I guess because I'm not sweating Floyds position as a badge of black honor I'm an Uncle Tom too right

Nonsense. How many fights has Manny had outside the US market?

and neither mayweather because it is not required by boxing... fuck out of here with that Olympic style bullshit... damn sugar shane needed bread to pay off his ex wife that is why he agreed to the bullshit

Not true. Jin Mosley didn't get any of the money from the Margarito fight so Shane still had plenty of money after breaking her off her share.
JMM and Victor Ortiz took the tests, as does Floyd Mayweather every fight.

To end the Hatton shit.

Hatton fought at 140 his whole career and walked around at 180. Floyd has move up several weight classes in his career and I think he started professionally at 130 so cut out the weight shit. Hatton went life and death with Collazo cause Collazo was underrated like a motherfucker and Hatton was overrated. Does that change the fact that Hatton beat Kostya... the guy, Floyd moved up to fight, but Kostya choose Hatton while Floyd changed course chasing Cotto. Hatton made himself worthy of fighting the best and then Hatton started calling out Floyd so Floyd fought him. Hatton made the choice to move up and he talked that shit when no one else was.

154 wasn't the greatest weight for DLH either. Regardless, DLH was considered the favorite in the fight against Pac. Hatton was never considered the favorite against Mayweather. Looking back, people want to say DLH was drained but before the fight happened nobody was saying this. Even DLH was saying he felt so strong at the weight he might go to 140 after the fight. Regardless, DLH was shot at probably any weight at this point. I don't think it had to do with any weight drain. Shit, DLH was even way past his prime when Mayweather fought him. I don't talk shit about Pac's win over DLH because he surprised everyone with that performance and it's not fair to try and cheapen his win just because he kicked ass.

Regarding Hatton when he fought Pac. I agree that by the time Pac got to him he had seen better days but he was still the man at 140 and I can't argue with that. He was the man and the champ and Pac fought him at his best weight.

Regarding Pac, the last fighter he fought in his prime was probably Clottey unless you want to count Cotto. I would say the version of Cotto that he got was still better than Victor Ortiz.

DLH's best weight may not have been 154 but he was very successful at it and it was his natural fighting weight at that point so the Mayweather win is much more significant than the Pacquiao win just the Pacquiao-Hatton win is the more significant of the two.

We're not pretending Oscar wasn't drained for the Pacquiao fight, are we?

 

[Upgrade Dave]

What are you even talking about... I'm talking about why they are hated and you are talking about something else. I could careless if Floyd is cleaning up the sport or not... if the testing motives are pure or not... All I can say is why the fuck not... I don't understand the push back.

Me neither.

But maybe YOU can explain how impossible it is to beat someone on steroids...explain to us how it gives them SUPER inhuman HULK like strength.Then explain how foolish it would be for Floyd to fight him..and how he'd be sure to be KO'D...cuz Manny "might" be on roids

It's not about strength and power, it's about endurance and stamina. Cyclists don't juice for power to ride up a mountain.
Is there a problem with trying to ensure both fighters are coming into the ring as natural as possible?

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Depending on your age, Mayweather is the best fighter you're ever going to see.

He is definitely the best Boxing Technician I've seen live no doubt... but fighter doesn't always mean best Boxer. If I had a choice to spend my money to go see a fight live, and I had to choose between say, Prime Roy Jones, Auturo Gatti, or Floyd, Floyd is definitely going to be the third choice on that list. A technician is better suited to be watched on TV, where you can see the little nuances of his talent... Live, not so much. And I know you didn't say this, but I don't have time to speak to the individual post, but, Floyd's fights are boring, primarily due to the fact that a persons nature is to want action in a fight. Similar to the fact that a football game with the final score of 6-3 is panned more than a 51-48 shootout. No one really cares at the end of the day about how talented a defense is... they want action...

Nonsense. How many fights has Manny had outside the US market?

I was referring to the overall dynamic of the two. Floyd is a prime candidate for self destruction, once he loses his boxing platform. And in his mid 30s his prime years are far behind him. When he becomes boxing irrelevant, he has nothing to fall back on.... Manny will be revered as a hero and an icon in his native land far after his career is over...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

What are you even talking about... I'm talking about why they are hated and you are talking about something else. I could careless if Floyd is cleaning up the sport or not... if the testing motives are pure or not... All I can say is why the fuck not... I don't understand the push back.

I assumed at a point we had gotten into a dialog on the Ali/Floyd comparison, not just speaking of the Manny/Floyd dynamic, but maybe I was mistaken...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Not true. Jin Mosley didn't get any of the money from the Margarito fight so Shane still had plenty of money after breaking her off her share.
JMM and Victor Ortiz took the tests, as does Floyd Mayweather every fight.

Dude, maybe I'm wrong but I'm not sure they are taking the Olympic style testing Floyd is demanding.... Who is paying for the tests? And don't give me the 'They showed it on 24/7" stuff. They can do anything for one episode... Where is the proof they took the olympic styled testing throughout training camp. I'm not saying they didn't, I'm saying where is the proof they did? If there is proof, I stand corrected...

 

[(0_0)..l.. finger]

Roger mayweather said it best "most people don't know shit about boxing"

Calling flyod's fights boring....why? Because u see more skill and not just a nigga bum rushing in and throwing and swinging for whatever?
Flyod is a technician.....nothing boring about a fighter that knows how to fight. I guess people have to have knock downs, knockouts, big haymaker combo's for it to be excitin

That's it!!!!! I been boxing since I was 14 and my trainer always use to give me boring ass old tapes of fighters from the 50-60's that people wouldn't respect today because it would be considered boring.. The reason why I don't think Pac is not on the same level as Mayweather is because floyd's jab, foot work, defense and counterpunching. Plus, Pac didn't fight enough brothas who fight similar to mayweather, but not as that good. People don't understand that a fast jab stops haymakers, combos, lower the chances of getting knockout and is use for offense and defense.

Name one brotha that Pac fought that is worth talking about, a 4o year old shane and clotty that he couldn't knockout? That funny thing is clotty train in my gym and everybody told him that the little man couldn't hurt him. All he had to do is throw more jabs.

 

[(0_0)..l.. finger]

Dude, maybe I'm wrong but I'm not sure they are taking the Olympic style testing Floyd is demanding.... Who is paying for the tests? And don't give me the 'They showed it on 24/7" stuff. They can do anything for one episode... Where is the proof they took the olympic styled testing throughout training camp. I'm not saying they didn't, I'm saying where is the proof they did? If there is proof, I stand corrected...

Shane Mosley= Olympic-style drug testing

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/mar/18/mosley-mayweather-back-drug-tests

Victor Ortiz=Olympic-style drug testing

http://mma.sbnation.com/2011/9/15/2427933/victor-ortiz-floyd-mayweather-random-drug-testing


should I keep going??

taking your urine= month

taking your hair= 6 months

taking your blood= a year

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

But maybe YOU can explain how impossible it is to beat someone on steroids...explain to us how it gives them SUPER inhuman HULK like strength.Then explain how foolish it would be for Floyd to fight him..and how he'd be sure to be KO'D...cuz Manny "might" be on roids

Lol.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Roger mayweather said it best "most people don't know shit about boxing"

Calling flyod's fights boring....why? Because u see more skill and not just a nigga bum rushing in and throwing and swinging for whatever?

Flyod is a technician.....nothing boring about a fighter that knows how to fight. I guess people have to have knock downs, knockouts, big haymaker combo's for it to be excitin

While I appreciate and agree with your view, I am a fight fan and can appreciate the technical aspects, the vast majority of the general public aren't boxing fans from the science of boxing perspective. That's why fighters like Gatti, Ward, etc. are more respected by the general fan, and fighters like, Marquez, Floyd, etc. are more appreciated by the 'true' fight fan. You will never see a Mayweather or Marquez fight win fight of the year, and there are many fighters in the HOF who have many loses on their records, but were voted in because of the excitement they brought to the sport... Unfortunately, the casual fan out numbers the true analytical fight fan, which in the long haul, once a fighter retires, will honor the warrior more than the technician...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Dude, maybe I'm wrong but I'm not sure they are taking the Olympic style testing Floyd is demanding.... Who is paying for the tests? And don't give me the 'They showed it on 24/7" stuff. They can do anything for one episode... Where is the proof they took the olympic styled testing throughout training camp. I'm not saying they didn't, I'm saying where is the proof they did? If there is proof, I stand corrected...

Shane Mosley= Olympic-style drug testing

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/mar/18/mosley-mayweather-back-drug-tests

Victor Ortiz=Olympic-style drug testing

http://mma.sbnation.com/2011/9/15/2427933/victor-ortiz-floyd-mayweather-random-drug-testing


should I keep going??

taking your urine= month

taking your hair= 6 months

taking your blood= a year

 

[Zeferino]

That's it!!!!! I been boxing since I was 14 and my trainer always use to give me boring ass old tapes of fighters from the 50-60's that people wouldn't respect today because it would be considered boring.. The reason why I don't think Pac is not on the same level as Mayweather is because floyd's jab, foot work, defense and counterpunching. Plus, Pac didn't fight enough brothas who fight similar to mayweather, but not as that good. People don't understand that a fast jab stops haymakers, combos, lower the chances of getting knockout and is use for offense and defense.

Name one brotha that Pac fought that is worth talking about, a 4o year old shane and clotty that he couldn't knockout? That funny thing is clotty train in my gym and everybody told him that the little man couldn't hurt him. All he had to do is throw more jabs.

I think Clottey had to do more than just throw jabs. Also, the age of brothas ruling boxing is sadly ending and what we are seeing now is the purging with Hopkins, Jones, and Toney obviously expiring. Look at the current black prospects. The DIrrell brothers aren't going anywhere. Chad Dawson isn't consistent. The Peterson brothers are B level. James Kirkland is going to burn up really really fast. He might be done in two years. Like James Toney said, "stay away from foreign white boys." He should have followed his own advice.

 

[Alaskanredman]

But maybe YOU can explain how impossible it is to beat someone on steroids...explain to us how it gives them SUPER inhuman HULK like strength.Then explain how foolish it would be for Floyd to fight him..and how he'd be sure to be KO'D...cuz Manny "might" be on roids

These cats are goofy as hell. It doesn't matter if he can beat him on steroids or not... the thing is no boxers should be on steroids... no boxer should have an unnatural advantage, and any thing to further that goal shouldn't be a problem to reasonable people. Anyone who wants to argue that lame point is an idiot because like I said earlier with my knife analogy... why not let fighters go against guys with knifes. I'm sure a fighter could beat a guy with knife so why not. Replace this dumb ass statement I just quoted with knife references instead of steroid references. It is the same shit.

 

[Zeferino]

According to Victor Conte, Mayweather hasn't been doing the so called Olympic Style Drug Testing:

http://www.boxingscene.com/conte-mayweather-not-olympic-style-testing--44297

 

[Deuterion]

While I appreciate and agree with your view, I am a fight fan and can appreciate the technical aspects, the vast majority of the general public aren't boxing fans from the science of boxing perspective. That's why fighters like Gatti, Ward, etc. are more respected by the general fan, and fighters like, Marquez, Floyd, etc. are more appreciated by the 'true' fight fan. You will never see a Mayweather or Marquez fight win fight of the year, and there are many fighters in the HOF who have many loses on their records, but were voted in because of the excitement they brought to the sport... Unfortunately, the casual fan out numbers the true analytical fight fan, which in the long haul, once a fighter retires, will honor the warrior more than the technician...

This would make sense if Mayweather's fights didn't outsell everyone else's. You go downtown in So. Cal. when Mayweather is fighting and every bar with the fight is packed. You go out when Manny is fighting and it is like any other day.

 

[actinanass]

I can't see how anyone can defend Mayweather's attitude. That's my beef with Money.

He's acting like a bitch right now. We all know Rude Jude is a bitch already. The spotlight is on Mayweather.

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

This would make sense if Mayweather's fights didn't outsell everyone else's. You go downtown in So. Cal. when Mayweather is fighting and every bar with the fight is packed. You go out when Manny is fighting and it is like any other day.

Primarily due to his dance partners and the fact that people want to see him lose, not that they are so overwhelmed with his technical expertise that they just have to see him perform...

 

[Jim_Browski]

Yeah That was the HIGHLIGHT of the WHOLE Dialog!!! Floyd really showed him who's boss with that Zinger there!!! Hilarious!!!!

 

[Jim_Browski]

The gist of the conversation is the same as it is with any Manny Pacquaio fan. It goes something like this:

Floyd - I want everyone I fight to take a drug test, PEDs are rampant in the sport.

Manny Fans - Stop being scared. Manny is not taking steroids. I'm 10000% certain of this even though he's never fought under strict testing rules. Besides, even if he is using PEDs, you should still be able to beat him. You're just scared. Manny is the BEST pound for pound boxer ever.

Floyd - OK, I disagree. But who did Pacquaio beat to make him the best pound for pound.

Manny Fans - Manny is the greatest. He only fights champions and Floyd fights bums. Manny beat Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, and Shane Mosley.

Floyd - I beat all of them, before Manny did.

Manny Fans - Shut up, you're scared to fight.

You left out that this Pac Man fan would have added....

PBF: Pacqiauo is fighting my leftovers.

Me: And doing a much better job than you at it.

PBF: I've fought all the best fighters.

Me: Stop lying. You ducked Eric Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera when they were in their pound for pound prime.

PBF: :::Who dis nigga?:::

 

[johniz]

Depending on your age, Mayweather is the best fighter you're ever going to see.

Nope. Not at all.

Pernell Whitaker, who was using cocaine, literally fought EVERYONE. Made no demands and always made weight.

I like and enjoy Mayweather. As a jr. lightweight, he was a GREAT.

But funny how people sidestep Mayweather NOT making weight against piss-drinking JMM, but always making DEMANDS on everyone else. Imagine if Pac or any other fighter violated a rule.

Would Mayweather have taken penalty money and still fought on?

And juicing does not help a chin. RJJ got ko'd mad times. Toney, never. Vargas often (ala Tommy Hearns--who lost all big fights by way of stoppage--guess he's a bum too).

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Nope. Not at all.

Pernell Whitaker, who was using cocaine, literally fought EVERYONE. Made no demands and always made weight.

I like and enjoy Mayweather. As a jr. lightweight, he was a GREAT.

But funny how people sidestep Mayweather NOT making weight against piss-drinking JMM, but always making DEMANDS on everyone else. Imagine if Pac or any other fighter violated a rule.

Would Mayweather have taken penalty money and still fought on?

And juicing does not help a chin. RJJ got ko'd mad times. Toney, never. Vargas often (ala Tommy Hearns--who lost all big fights by way of stoppage--guess he's a bum too).

Dude, on here! Floyd can do no wrong! These types of things are ALWAYS side stepped when brought up, and I guarantee you you will either not get a response, or you will get some bullshit excuse like 'he paid Marquez' for the pounds so it's cool. All of these Boxers have some shit with them, but only Floyd gets passes, maybe because he is just so persecuted because he is black, etc., you know, the usual rhetoric...

Plus, when it is pointed out that there has been a history proving that PEDs are NOT a guarantee of an advantage in a fight, you will get the 'He was a Bum anyway' bullshit.... Three Blind Mice sometime Dude, and I am not a great support of Manny either, I am just not so blind and un-objective that I cannot call ALL fighters on their bullshit...

 

[Upgrade Dave]

He is definitely the best Boxing Technician I've seen live no doubt... but fighter doesn't always mean best Boxer. If I had a choice to spend my money to go see a fight live, and I had to choose between say, Prime Roy Jones, Auturo Gatti, or Floyd, Floyd is definitely going to be the third choice on that list. A technician is better suited to be watched on TV, where you can see the little nuances of his talent... Live, not so much. And I know you didn't say this, but I don't have time to speak to the individual post, but, Floyd's fights are boring, primarily due to the fact that a persons nature is to want action in a fight. Similar to the fact that a football game with the final score of 6-3 is panned more than a 51-48 shootout. No one really cares at the end of the day about how talented a defense is... they want action...

While I don't find them boring at all, I can see how live, his fights would be behind Roy and Gatti.

I was referring to the overall dynamic of the two. Floyd is a prime candidate for self destruction, once he loses his boxing platform. And in his mid 30s his prime years are far behind him. When he becomes boxing irrelevant, he has nothing to fall back on.... Manny will be revered as a hero and an icon in his native land far after his career is over...

That's why he's a promoter with fighters maturing in his stable and gets more than just a check like Pac and most other fighters. He's getting paid like Arum and Oscar. He gets paid that night and then gets money for months as the other revenue streams come in.

Dude, maybe I'm wrong but I'm not sure they are taking the Olympic style testing Floyd is demanding.... Who is paying for the tests? And don't give me the 'They showed it on 24/7" stuff. They can do anything for one episode... Where is the proof they took the olympic styled testing throughout training camp. I'm not saying they didn't, I'm saying where is the proof they did? If there is proof, I stand corrected...

Already answered.
I don't think it's strictly "Olympic style" but it is more stringent than normal boxing requirements and every fighter he's fought since coming back has done it.

This would make sense if Mayweather's fights didn't outsell everyone else's. You go downtown in So. Cal. when Mayweather is fighting and every bar with the fight is packed. You go out when Manny is fighting and it is like any other day.

The idea that the general public finds his fights boring has been proven wrong over and over again. He outsells the supposedly more fan friendly Manny Pacquiao all the time.

Primarily due to his dance partners and the fact that people want to see him lose, not that they are so overwhelmed with his technical expertise that they just have to see him perform...

Not true. De La Hoya never sold as many fights with anyone else as he did Mayweather. Neither did Hatton or anyone else. You can't believe Marquez and Ortiz were big ppv draws in their fights with Mayweather.
There is a large number that watch to see him lose and I'm sure there are a few (okay, more than a few) than pay to watch just in case this is "the one". But, as you said, his style is very tv friendly and people turn out to see it in droves.

You left out that this Pac Man fan would have added....

PBF: Pacqiauo is fighting my leftovers.

Me: And doing a much better job than you at it.

PBF: I've fought all the best fighters.

Me: Stop lying. You ducked Eric Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera when they were in their pound for pound prime.

PBF: :::Who dis nigga?:::

More like
Who is dis corny ass nigga? Talking fucking ridiculous likek that.

You know a nigga is a straight hater when he's just making up people that Mayweather ducked. How about him ducking Sugar Ray Leonard and Aaron Pryor since we're just making shit up?

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Nope. Not at all.

Pernell Whitaker, who was using cocaine, literally fought EVERYONE. Made no demands and always made weight.

You're arguing with an unarguable point. I clearly said "depending on your age". When was Sweet Pea's prime? Do you know how many people have been born or come of age since then?

I like and enjoy Mayweather. As a jr. lightweight, he was a GREAT.

But funny how people sidestep Mayweather NOT making weight against piss-drinking JMM, but always making DEMANDS on everyone else. Imagine if Pac or any other fighter violated a rule.

Would Mayweather have taken penalty money and still fought on?

And juicing does not help a chin. RJJ got ko'd mad times. Toney, never. Vargas often (ala Tommy Hearns--who lost all big fights by way of stoppage--guess he's a bum too).

What was there to say? He didn't make the catchweight of 145. Okay. There have been a lot of guys who didn't make weight in boxing and didn't pay shit and went on and won. He let them know in advance and came to an agreement.
Top fighters make demands, hell Manny wanted Floyd to pay 10 million dollars for every pound he came over for their fight. Can anyone name a time Floyd didn't make the 147 limit?
Who said juicing helped a chin? It's not meant to. It's meant to augment a fighter during training and to help him with his stamina and endurance, like a cyclist or a track and field star.

 

[HeathCliff]

That's why he's a promoter with fighters maturing in his stable and gets more than just a check like Pac and most other fighters. He's getting paid like Arum and Oscar. He gets paid that night and then gets money for months as the other revenue streams come in.

You forgot to supply the link cuz

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/s...avyweight-financial-clout.html?pagewanted=all

 

[will_right]

You're arguing with an unarguable point. I clearly said "depending on your age". When was Sweet Pea's prime? Do you know how many people have been born or come of age since then?




What was there to say? He didn't make the catchweight of 145. Okay. There have been a lot of guys who didn't make weight in boxing and didn't pay shit and went on and won. He let them know in advance and came to an agreement.
Top fighters make demands, hell Manny wanted Floyd to pay 10 million dollars for every pound he came over for their fight. Can anyone name a time Floyd didn't make the 147 limit?
Who said juicing helped a chin? It's not meant to. It's meant to augment a fighter during training and to help him with his stamina and endurance, like a cyclist or a track and field star.

IMO.they both have great Skills..however Manny IS the best "Fighter" between the two..FLOYD IS the best "BOXER" between the two ok...try not to confuse the two types.