Eninem "Zeus" --- Snoop Dogg Diss... The Beef Just Got Real....
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Yeah let me correct myself. I fucks with Latifah , Yo-yo and Mc Lite .
It’s not just BGOL, the Eminem slander’s everywhere.
There is often a difference between being cultural relevant to the mainstream and being culturally relevant to “us”. As far as “we” are concerned I think that Snoop is far more relevant. Snoop is both. Over the top “shock rap” that doesn’t speak to our experiences or those of people we know or to whom we might be able relate has not and will not connect with us emotionally or nostalgically. Although most of us are not gangbangers, drug dealers, etc. We have lived vicariously through Snoop’s music, because we know people like him. Some of us might fantasize about the lifestyle, etc.
The same can’t be said about Em despite his undeniable talent and prowess on the mic.
https://rollingout.com/2020/12/20/snoop-fires-back-after-eminem-disses-him-in-the-song-zeus/
After the firestorm was created by Snoop’s list of all-time top rappers, Snoop, 49, visited “The Breakfast Club” morning radio show to justify snubbing Eminem. And he pulled no punches:
“Eminem, The Great White Hope. White rappers had zero respect in rap. Dr. Dre has probably put Eminem in the position that he would be considered one of the top 10 rappers ever. I don’t think so, but the game thinks that he’s [in the] top 10 lyricists and everything that comes with it. That’s just because he’s with Dr. Dre,” Snoop said.
“There’s some n—-s in the 80s that he couldn’t f— with,” Snoop continued. “Like Rakim, like Big Daddy Kane, like KRS-One, like LL Cool J, like Ice Cube.”
After the firestorm was created by Snoop’s list of all-time top rappers, Snoop, 49, visited “The Breakfast Club” morning radio show to justify snubbing Eminem. And he pulled no punches:
“Eminem, The Great White Hope. White rappers had zero respect in rap. Dr. Dre has probably put Eminem in the position that he would be considered one of the top 10 rappers ever. I don’t think so, but the game thinks that he’s [in the] top 10 lyricists and everything that comes with it. That’s just because he’s with Dr. Dre,” Snoop said.
“There’s some n—-s in the 80s that he couldn’t f— with,” Snoop continued. “Like Rakim, like Big Daddy Kane, like KRS-One, like LL Cool J, like Ice Cube.”
I'm a firm believer in not having to put someone down to prove your point. You can say Em is not on your top 10 list and still show a lil respect for your fellow artist. We don't have to say Em can't hold his own against the greats. I'm pretty sure Em can touch the mic and rock it with the greats in a cypher. Snoop is sounding like that bitter dude in the crew that feels overlooked. Tupac outshined him, Em outsold him.
No way I see EM rocking the mic with the greats. He don't got the swag to do it
Lol my nigga Iron
So wait...
It was Snoop that got moist first because Eminem didn’t list him on his top 10 list of rappers?
So, it was no surprise when Snoop Dogg decided not to include Eminem on his list of his top 10 rappers the following month. Snoop Dogg posted a list of his top 10 rappers to his Instagram, which said, “Slick Rick / Ice Cube / L. L. Cool J / K. R. S. 1 / Rakim / Run from Run D.M.C. / D from Run D.M.C. / Big Daddy Kane / Ice T / Too Short.” But the beef didn’t stop at Snoop Dogg leaving Eminem out of his top 10 rappers.
Snoop Dogg took his beef with Eminem even further in an interview.
Snoop Dogg was a guest on the show Breakfast Club, and when he was asked about his top 10 list, Snoop decided to take his drama with Eminem further. He claimed that Eminem’s fame is only due to being mentored by Dr. Dre.
Eminem! The Great White Hope! White rappers had zero respect in rap. Let’s keep that one thou-wow,” Snoop Dogg said at the time. “[Dr. Dre] has probably put Eminem in the position where he would be labeled one of the top 10 rappers ever. I don’t think so. But the game feels like he’s [one of the] top 10 lyricists and all that that comes with it. That’s just because he’s with Dr. Dre, and Dr. Dre helped him find the best Eminem that he could find.”
Snoop went on to say, “There’s some n-----s in the '80s that he can’t f--k with,” but then claimed that Eminem doesn’t have a place in “this hip hop s--t.” It’s not clear as to if Eminem did anything to spur on this Snoop Dogg dissent of his place as a rapper.
https://www.thewrap.com/eminem-snoop-dogg-zeus-music-to-be-murdered-by-side-b/
https://www.distractify.com/p/eminem-snoop-dogg-beef
It was Snoop that got moist first because Eminem didn’t list him on his top 10 list of rappers?
So, it was no surprise when Snoop Dogg decided not to include Eminem on his list of his top 10 rappers the following month. Snoop Dogg posted a list of his top 10 rappers to his Instagram, which said, “Slick Rick / Ice Cube / L. L. Cool J / K. R. S. 1 / Rakim / Run from Run D.M.C. / D from Run D.M.C. / Big Daddy Kane / Ice T / Too Short.” But the beef didn’t stop at Snoop Dogg leaving Eminem out of his top 10 rappers.
Snoop Dogg took his beef with Eminem even further in an interview.
Snoop Dogg was a guest on the show Breakfast Club, and when he was asked about his top 10 list, Snoop decided to take his drama with Eminem further. He claimed that Eminem’s fame is only due to being mentored by Dr. Dre.
Eminem! The Great White Hope! White rappers had zero respect in rap. Let’s keep that one thou-wow,” Snoop Dogg said at the time. “[Dr. Dre] has probably put Eminem in the position where he would be labeled one of the top 10 rappers ever. I don’t think so. But the game feels like he’s [one of the] top 10 lyricists and all that that comes with it. That’s just because he’s with Dr. Dre, and Dr. Dre helped him find the best Eminem that he could find.”
Snoop went on to say, “There’s some n-----s in the '80s that he can’t f--k with,” but then claimed that Eminem doesn’t have a place in “this hip hop s--t.” It’s not clear as to if Eminem did anything to spur on this Snoop Dogg dissent of his place as a rapper.
https://www.thewrap.com/eminem-snoop-dogg-zeus-music-to-be-murdered-by-side-b/
https://www.distractify.com/p/eminem-snoop-dogg-beef
Other way around. Snoop carried Dre
I would have really liked to see death row put out much more music than it did. I don't know if it was Dre being slow on production or just mismanagement of talent. There's no fucking reason why Lady of Rage CD didn't drop until 4 years after snoop's doggystyle, and after Dre left. She rapped on his album before he did
My assumption is Dre wanted out and he knew any hit he made under deathrow, he would not be compensated for. By then, I think he had become a student of the game and did just enough
I don't smoke weed but let me get a double dose of what you shmokin bruh! While we speaking on greats lets not forget about Big Pun.
That’s really not the point and that’s been addressed. Almost none of us would pick an Eminem CD and most of us don’t listen to Eminem.
What we’re talking about is skill wise and his rapping ability.
Can't do it fam. A CAC rapping about dumb shit is not in my top nothing
He’s not in “Our” top anything either. But if we’re listing the best Rappers\MC’s to ever touch the mic, Eminem’s name is there.
He’s not not one of the top ten or top 50 rappers that I personally listen to. But if I’m making a list of the best rappers ever, his name is listed. If not, I wouldn’t be true to the art form.
Guilty conscience >>>>>>>
In the interview, Snoop went too extra with it..,if Em is responding to being left off Snoop's top 10 then he is tripping...if he is responding to that interview, then that's cool
Jay?? He had to wait for Pac and Biggie to die for his shit to get any type of play. Add Nas, Prodigy, Raekwon and Snoop to that list. I would also grab an EM album, not sure about top 10 though.
I'd rather listen to a cracka rapping bout nothing then listen to black men rap about killing each other, serving drugs to their own people killing their community and calling their mother's and sisters bitches through 95% of their albums all while telling me their better then me because they got money.
Your first statement is incorrect. Jay’s Reasonable Doubt dropped June 1996. Jay was already buzzing, had BIG on his album and had BIG in a video.
“Ain’t No Nigga” was also released in March of 1996 which was a pretty popular song.
Yes he did get bigger and more airplay when BIG and Pac died but don’t act like he wasn’t already buzzing.
Sounds like Eminem’s the only thing you listen to then!
I'd probably agree if it wasn't for people like Tibe called Quest, Kendrick, Souls of Mischief, some common, Basically any conscious rap/ batter rap style like Sean Price and Rource the 5'9
It's my belief, completely unsubstantiated, that there are significant works that are unreleased on Death Row, including Lady of Rage shelved work (I know her CD came out in 1997, but that CD was not indicative of her full talents and I believe her good shitnwas shelved), just sitting gathering dust because Suge didn't want to give Dr. Dre credit for anything once the relationship soured.
It's impossible to believe that between 1990 and October 1995 when Dogg Food by Tha Dogg Pound was released the entire Death Row label only released:
The Chronic
Doggystyle
Above the Rim Soundtrack
Murder Was the Case
Dogg Food
One CD a year with that lineup?
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So wait...
It was Snoop that got moist first because Eminem didn’t list him on his top 10 list of rappers?
So, it was no surprise when Snoop Dogg decided not to include Eminem on his list of his top 10 rappers the following month. Snoop Dogg posted a list of his top 10 rappers to his Instagram, which said, “Slick Rick / Ice Cube / L. L. Cool J / K. R. S. 1 / Rakim / Run from Run D.M.C. / D from Run D.M.C. / Big Daddy Kane / Ice T / Too Short.” But the beef didn’t stop at Snoop Dogg leaving Eminem out of his top 10 rappers.
Snoop Dogg took his beef with Eminem even further in an interview.
Snoop Dogg was a guest on the show Breakfast Club, and when he was asked about his top 10 list, Snoop decided to take his drama with Eminem further. He claimed that Eminem’s fame is only due to being mentored by Dr. Dre.
Eminem! The Great White Hope! White rappers had zero respect in rap. Let’s keep that one thou-wow,” Snoop Dogg said at the time. “[Dr. Dre] has probably put Eminem in the position where he would be labeled one of the top 10 rappers ever. I don’t think so. But the game feels like he’s [one of the] top 10 lyricists and all that that comes with it. That’s just because he’s with Dr. Dre, and Dr. Dre helped him find the best Eminem that he could find.”
Snoop went on to say, “There’s some n-----s in the '80s that he can’t f--k with,” but then claimed that Eminem doesn’t have a place in “this hip hop s--t.” It’s not clear as to if Eminem did anything to spur on this Snoop Dogg dissent of his place as a rapper.
https://www.thewrap.com/eminem-snoop-dogg-zeus-music-to-be-murdered-by-side-b/
https://www.distractify.com/p/eminem-snoop-dogg-beef
Joyner and Cole gtfo
I did not think about Suge shelving projects because he did not want to give Dre credit. That could absolutely be true
Umm no it was released on the bside of Dead Presidents in Feb 20th 1996
Nigga I'm not a millennial. His shit was nowhere to be found in the clubs. He had 2 songs. A 2 hit wonder like Treach till Pac and Biggie died and hip-hop went with them. Meanwhile, everyone was bumping Q-tip, Biggie, Snoop, Nas, Tupac, Raekwon, Mase, Method Man, Prodigy, Fugees, and a few other talented MCs. Like Kanye and Dre, he's an excellent producer and brilliant businessman.
Your generational relationship isn’t of my concern. As Shaddy corrected me, “Ain’t No Nigga” was released in February 1996. Jay’s first album was released in June 1996.
“Ain’t No Nigga” was a club song that was played in clubs.
“Dead Presidents” was also released in February 1996. The song as well as the video was popular but I’m unsure if it was played in clubs.
In closing, again you are wrong. “Ain’t No Nigga” was a club song that was played in clubs before Pac or BIG’s death.
Wait what?
I'm not saying this based off bias, I'm saying it cause that's the truth
Valid points....
"Everything he said, by the way, was fine, up to a point," Em explained. "Him saying Dre made the best version of me, absolutely, why would I have a problem with that? Would I be here without Dre? Fuck no, I wouldn’t. The rappers he mentioned from the ‘90s—KRS One, Big Daddy Kane, [Kool] G Rap—I’ve never said I could fuck with them."
"I think it was more about the tone he was using that caught me off-guard ‘cause I'm like, where is this coming from? I just saw you, what the fuck? It threw me for a loop," he continued. "I probably could've gotten past the whole tone and everything, but it was the last statement where he said, 'Far as music I can live without, I can live without that shit.' Now you’re being disrespectful. It just caught me off-guard."
"I think it was more about the tone he was using that caught me off-guard ‘cause I'm like, where is this coming from? I just saw you, what the fuck? It threw me for a loop," he continued. "I probably could've gotten past the whole tone and everything, but it was the last statement where he said, 'Far as music I can live without, I can live without that shit.' Now you’re being disrespectful. It just caught me off-guard."
Eminem recalls receiving messages from people asking him how he was going to respond to Snoop's remarks, and he was admittedly befuddled, saying, "I didn’t know what to do about it because it confused me ‘cause I’m like, bro, same team. We’re on the same team. And I have never in my career, my entire career, said a disrespectful word about Snoop."
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