He is nowhere near Top 10, and its only white savior hood, that even allows it to be worthy of discussion. Eminem has had a GREAT career, but NONE of his albums are in the pantheon of great albums. A few all time songs, dope movie, but kill all this Top 10 noise.
Eninem "Zeus" --- Snoop Dogg Diss... The Beef Just Got Real....
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It’s funny how Rakim, Jay, Nas, Kendrick and Cole as well as well as many others all respect EM as a great and a lyricist but some fans don’t
It’s funny how Rakim, Jay, Nas, Kendrick and Cole as well as well as many others all respect EM as a great and a lyricist but some fans don’t
Rakim, Jay, Nas and others are more of an authority to speak Em's lyrical ability but at the end of the day, they are all entertainers and you aren't entertained by them ability means nothing.
Eminem can probably out rap any of my favorites but I don't find Em to be entertaining.
There’s nothing wrong with not liking his music or not being entertained by him. We all have our likes and dislikes. The issue is when fans don’t give him his credit on being one of the best lyricists. That’s the issue.
Yoooouuuuuu.. Imma go to sleep and pretend I didn’t read such chicanery
Making you feel something and rapping intricate words can be two totally different things. Remember when Twista set a world record in rapping fast, did you feel what he was saying though? Em is like that, he raps well but do you really feel him? I felt Tupac and Biggie, but Em is a good placer of words.
Damn this post still going.. Lol Em always spark opinions about him especially on this board. He's in my top ten, lyrically he's a beast. He doesn't have club bangers but when it comes to lyrical content, flow, word play and switching up speeds, he's definitely one of the best in my opinion.
Em is a wordsmith rapper's rapper. A fan can't relate. If a fan hasn't fumbled over finding the right word as a writer, they can't relate. Em is a driven rapper who burned for the respect of his peers and the elder statesman. All else is the byproduct. His bars, his hooks, his wordplay ain't to him if he couldn't impress his influences.
But yeah, his subject matters suffers
It’s funny how Rakim, Jay, Nas, Kendrick and Cole as well as well as many others all respect EM as a great and a lyricist but some fans don’t
I don't even care about dumbass fans on BGOL. Who the fuck is Snoop to be yelling about Eminem can't fuck with Rakim? He's Ryan Hollins yelling about "LeBron ain't shit compared to MJ."
Are you trying to insult snoop legacy.. dude legacy is almost 3 decades strong.. from deep cover to him showcasing on versus and a bunch of shit in between
Imma give Em his props he is a legend I mean he is a 20 plus year veteran.
I'm exaggerating when I say he's Ryan Hollins but he is nowhere near the GOAT discussion that Rakim and Eminem are objectively in (objectively because many people have them there, almost nobody has Snoop there).
When you talk GOAT subject Matters. Em is not there with the Icons. If you ain't blasting from cars in the summer time you ain't in that top tier. Impact Matters. An apparently Marshall don't.
He’s a legend with longevity with many hits and at least one classic album under his belt.. that’s a nice portfolio and many would easily say snoop is a hall of famer
most would prefer to listen to a snoop catalog over ems.. diff age groups, diff sex, diff ethnic backgrounds.. once again that says a lot about dudes catalog
Gave that another listen and it’s not a real diss. If you’re not a fan of an artists material, you aren’t gonna fuck with it - at all. I appreciate him saying that. Doesn’t matter if they’re “in the same camp” thru Dre.
When he heard that beat, he didn’t get that vibe. Though I fux with Em’s pen, he’s made songs about being molested by his stepfather and felching. When I was younger, my crew and I was rappin’ a little locally and doin’ a little sumpin’ sumpin’ in the booth and as much as a clown as I could be, them topics never crossed my mind. Snoop sayin’ he’s a gangsta. Makes perfect sense.
Says who? That's not how I listen to music. To say songs like Stan (took a name that was rarely heard, flipped it, now it's a daily word) don't count because people don't blast it in the summer is silly.
"I spit that shit that real niggas feel while 99% of your fans wear high heels."
Most would rather listen to Nelly's catalogue than KRS's. Diff age groups, diff sex, diff ethnic backgrounds- Nelly > KRS. Cool J > Canibus, Will Smith > Public Enemy. I think that says that a popularity contest (which I actually think you're wrong about and Eminem, the top-selling rapper of all-time, outperforms Snoop by a lot in this measure) is not the best way to gauge.
top selling rapper... yet snoop got songs from 29 yrs ago that people still will play today.. how often do you hear people playing slim shady? How many events do you go to and here em music? When you shopping? .. snoop just did some sports commentary for tyson fight and now got signed to do various gigs.. he also was the main performer that night... em got dissed by machine gun Kelly, had to talk shit about nick canon and now made about snoop.. all 3 em moments in the past 2 yrs were attention whore diss records and nobody cared..em is a dictionary probably the top selling book outside of the Bible.. snoop is Harry Potter or any popular fairytale.. a popular book that sold a lot but not as much as a dictionary.. ask a person which 1 they rather read and Harry Potter would be the people’s choice.. em sold a lot for various reasons 1 is cause as he said he was Elvis of rap
Just this month, Stan was the basis of an SNL sketch and President Obama recited lyrics from Lose Yourself. That's in the last two weeks.
Snoop does NOT have records with that weight. He isn't in the same league. Remotely. Not in the same galaxy.
His original catalog from his first 3 albums which most people have said is the best of em and has fell off since.. snoop was part of the death row/bad boy rivalry.. that line at the source awards was 1 of the biggest segments in hip hop history... people still talk about snoop kicking over the buildings in his vid.. 2 hall of fame artist are no longer here due to that rivalry.. pac/big you might have heard of them
Snoop was being a little salty with his comments. Anyone can tell that he knew that was the Stan sample. Dre must have had one of those days when he was being lazy and just gave him the basic sample without changing it. Instead of Snoop saying Dre was being lazy, he threw Em under the bus. Snoop almost sounded a little jealous of Em.
I wouldn't put Busta up there with the others
the fuck are you talking about son....drake legendary buzz??
Tell Jay Z that. It had him near tears with just the mention of it during his Angie Martinez interview. And she was laughing at that nigga. And then also tell Memphis Bleek too. Because he said when they all heard Ether their mouths hit the floor and Jay was fucked up over it.
Nigga went from saying he didn't recognize the beat because he don't listen to Eminem to reciting lyrics, and telling you what the entire song about.
Granted, fam...
With Em being a multi-diamond selling artist and one that is still relevant in some circles should give him a level of indifference to trivial things like this. Recognition from your peers is cool, but it doesn’t take away from your skill.
Addendum: This next example is not a direct comparison, just to juxtapose Em with these examples on “peer acceptance.”
No one in baseball liked Barry Bonds but he arguably had an eye that was top three and pure hitting skills that were other-worldly.
Michael Jordan’s teammates did not like his ass at all because he was cruel to them if they didn’t try to die on the court daily.
So whereas Em is not the GOAT, he has done enough to be in some GOAT mentions. What a peer has to say should not and DOES not matter.
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It measures impact and what is silly is you discounting it cuz your guy lacks impact with the streets. Em has his lane but you Stans need to recognize it don't run thru GOAT.
He meant to write “BIG”.
Naw i absolutely meant Busta
Busta’s nice but there’s only a few artists that had “Legendary” buzz in the past 30 years in my opinion.
That’s Snoop, BIG and just off of popularity 50 Cent.
Wu-tang had a special buzz along with Nas. But Snoop and BIG hit Hip Hop differently.
Busta’s been around since the 80’a with LONS, I don’t consider his buzz “Legendary”.