DRAKE CONFIRMS ‘CERTIFIED LOVER BOY’ SEPTEMBER 3RD RELEASE

[DJCandle]

I kinda disagree...

He has legit competition SKILL WISE

There are real rappers out here now

Drake as a pop star icon hit maker trendsetter?

He’s definitely a megastar. Not saying he isn’t but who’s really his competition? Are there a plethora of spitters out there? If there are, put me on famo cause I don’t know many. We know the obvious ones like Kendrick, Cole, Wale, and even of those 3, I think Cole’s gotta better pen than the Canadian, but to me, mans gets his flowers from everywhere but the spitter circles.

I lowkey want him to fuck around and call Black Though out just to test his metal.

But he smartly found his lane and has been able to dominate it he knows his demographic his target and caters specifically to them.

Women, social media etc etc

Thing is he hasn't grown even with the kid.

But at this point he is unique. He is his own genre of music

That is incredible.

And no matter who writing...

That boy can rap his ass off has a good ear for beats and has classic classic verses.

But he won't ever be top mc class

And he seems at peace with that

Kendrick and Cole are not

Griselda coming

And we seen 21 savage , lil baby, durk and them are not either.

RAP IS STILL IMPORTANT TO THEM.

Not saying it's not for Drake, it's just he made his choices.

Good for him as long as he and his fans and his camp happy.

Again, we agree here. amazing popstar but questionable rapper for the choices he’s made. Not saying it’s even a bad thing, but don’t call yourself an elite MC when rap isn’t your strong suit.

Stick to singing and the Afrobeat remixes and it’s all good. Chunes.

And honestly there is some hypocrisy from critics too...

A whole lot rappers have used the same subject matter for decades too.

Just saying.

But this album was a good "drake" album.

He STILL has never dropped a classic to me. Outside that mix tape.

But there is so much good music in that exhaustive catalogue that has to count for something

His subject matter is very estrogen riddled for my taste. I personally don’t care about struggles with his baby mother or the next chick he’s fucking.

That’s cool if that’s what he wants to do for what, 7 studio albums? Hey, make your music and cash in form your lane.

But when it comes to hip hop? I mean he’s free to wanna walk into that ring, but we’ve already seen what happened there most recently.

Common and Pusha handled him with 2am on the toilet bowl bars and he disappeared only to reappear to pick on someone he could handle like Meek. Checker moves.

And fuck Meek for not handling his business. This nigga didn’t just let Philly down but the whole of hip hop spitters cause to me, that’s light work.

 

[DJCandle]

Drake’s not marketable ...

Wow! I legit can’t get past this.. there’s not an A&R or record exec breathing that would agree with this. This man is the DEFINITION of marketable. If he ain’t make music ever again, he could still sell his image of wheelchair Jimmy and still be highly profitable.

Nevermind my opinion though, there are actual scientific algorithms that place him as the highest and hottest commodity in music right now.

I don’t even think his Stan cousin @Entrepronegro would agree with this take for real for real.

“The index, created by Stake, ranks artists based on a stock market pricing algorithm not dissimilar to how listed companies like Apple, Amazon, Universal and Spotify are evaluated on global exchanges. The analysis metrics included; streaming data, awards won, Billboard Hot 100 entries, brand deals, and social media presence.

Drake topped the list with a ‘stock’ price of $226.62, followed by Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber, with ‘stock’ prices of $170.59 and $169.01 respectively.

The top five artists, and their ‘stock’ prices, are as follows:”

1. Drake – $226.62
2. Taylor Swift – $170.59
3. Justin Bieber – $169.01
4. Ariana Grande- $154.82
5. Eminem – $145.49

He consistently puts out good music meaning none of it is truly wack. The beats and the rhymes are usually nice. Some may not like the songs, but they’re not wack.

He stays in his lane and puts out his brand of music consistently, that explains the longevity.

See above homey.

Now as far as his popularity? I can’t explain that, I don’t think anyone can. It’s not media push, it’s not his label. He puts out music and people run to listen, it’s weird.

His accent to where he is unex

Drake can spit, or maybe it’s his writers but Drake can spit.

His writers are amazing, there’s no question and when you have such a lack of talent and a pool of writer available, it’s nothing to throw coin at em.

When Dre did 2001 and Shawn Carter’s name was on the credit, it was immediate cause that was wasn’t Dre’s cadence. It wasn’t his rhyme scheme. You felt the inconsistency from and his prior works.

Same deal here. Mans got more styles than P.

 

[DJCandle]

Pusha T, Nas, Kendrick, Jim Jones, Dave East, all got fire . What you mean?

Ok there we go, thank you. To me, Drake can’t fuck with none of these dudes on his best day.

None.

 

[Entrepronegro]

Wow! I legit can’t get past this.. there’s not an A&R or record exec breathing that would agree with this. This man is the DEFINITION of marketable. If he ain’t make music ever again, he could still sell his image of wheelchair Jimmy and still be highly profitable.

Nevermind my opinion though, there are actual scientific algorithms that place him as the highest and hottest commodity in music right now.

I don’t even think his Stan cousin @Entrepronegro would agree with this take for real for real.

“The index, created by Stake, ranks artists based on a stock market pricing algorithm not dissimilar to how listed companies like Apple, Amazon, Universal and Spotify are evaluated on global exchanges. The analysis metrics included; streaming data, awards won, Billboard Hot 100 entries, brand deals, and social media presence.

Drake topped the list with a ‘stock’ price of $226.62, followed by Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber, with ‘stock’ prices of $170.59 and $169.01 respectively.

The top five artists, and their ‘stock’ prices, are as follows:”

1. Drake – $226.62
2. Taylor Swift – $170.59
3. Justin Bieber – $169.01
4. Ariana Grande- $154.82
5. Eminem – $145.49

Whoever think he is not marketable they don't know what they are talking about.

 

[DJCandle]

*Boldy James, Roc Marci, Conway, Benny, Stove God Cooks

Griselda gets heavy rotation

I’ve spent most of this weekend on Hitler Wears Hermès before Kanye or Drake’s projects.

Keep an eye on Mach-Hommy. Boy spittin butta.

 

[Dr. Truth]

I’ve spent most of this weekend on Hitler Wears Hermès before Kanye or Drake’s projects.

Keep an eye on Mach-Hommy. Boy spittin butta.

Thanks for the rec.

 

[REDLINE]

Wow! I legit can’t get past this.. there’s not an A&R or record exec breathing that would agree with this. This man is the DEFINITION of marketable. If he ain’t make music ever again, he could still sell his image of wheelchair Jimmy and still be highly profitable.

Nevermind my opinion though, there are actual scientific algorithms that place him as the highest and hottest commodity in music right now.

I don’t even think his Stan cousin @Entrepronegro would agree with this take for real for real.

“The index, created by Stake, ranks artists based on a stock market pricing algorithm not dissimilar to how listed companies like Apple, Amazon, Universal and Spotify are evaluated on global exchanges. The analysis metrics included; streaming data, awards won, Billboard Hot 100 entries, brand deals, and social media presence.

Drake topped the list with a ‘stock’ price of $226.62, followed by Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber, with ‘stock’ prices of $170.59 and $169.01 respectively.

The top five artists, and their ‘stock’ prices, are as follows:”

1. Drake – $226.62
2. Taylor Swift – $170.59
3. Justin Bieber – $169.01
4. Ariana Grande- $154.82
5. Eminem – $145.49

See above homey.

I’m glad that you replied so that I could explain why Drake’s “Not” marketable.

Let’s look at the facts:

Canadian.

Mixed.

Identifies as Jewish.

Acted on a teen television series. Actors usually don’t transition well into the field of music because fans only see them in one light.

He raps but also sings and harmonizes about his emotions on relationships with women record.

On paper that’s not marketable and that person on paper shouldn’t have succeeded with being successful in the US much less in the world of music.

Especially Hip Hop music.

So no, he’s not “Marketable”. Neither is Biggie, Lil Wayne, Kanye etc…

Their music and talent got them into the forefront and made them successful.

 

[TheyCallMeBe]

I’ve spent most of this weekend on Hitler Wears Hermès before Kanye or Drake’s projects.

Keep an eye on Mach-Hommy. Boy spittin butta.

Idk how I forgot about Hommy. Album of the Year IMO

 

[DJCandle]

I’m glad that you replied so that I could explain why Drake’s “Not” marketable.

Let’s look at the facts:

Canadian.

Mixed.

Identifies as Jewish.

Acted on a teen television series. Actors usually don’t transition well into the field of music because fans only see them in one light.

He raps but also sings and harmonizes about his emotions on relationships with women record.

On paper that’s not marketable and that person on paper shouldn’t have succeeded with being successful in the US much less in the world of music.

Especially Hip Hop music.

So no, he’s not “Marketable”. Neither is Biggie, Lil Wayne, Kanye etc…

Their music and talent got them into the forefront and made them successful.

Yea I think we gon reach an impasse here fam off the strength of this right here ..

Identifies as Jewish...

That ALONE is strong enough to put that boy where he is. Name me one highly successful rap artist that doesn’t have a ambitious Jew behind em. Let alone them having one of their own tribesmen who can rap? That’s access to marketing and pub that the spitters on the bottom have zero access to.

Playing field tilted.

On paper he’s ridiculously marketable and might be far more marketable than any hip hop artist to date. He covers every single angle AROUND THE WORLD. Forget the US market. That’s a small piece of where he’s heading to and all this during the rise of the Internet and social media?

He’s got more tools than anyone before has ever had period point blank period and he’s STILL NOT CONSIDERED elite.

Yea we just gon have to agree to disagree on this point my guy cause ain’t no way.

 

[DJCandle]

Album of the Year IMO

I could see this. I got Bash Money on repeat. Wayne fits in well with them oddly enough lol

 

[REDLINE]

Yea I think we gon reach an impasse here fam off the strength of this right here ..


That ALONE is strong enough to put that boy where he is. Name me one highly successful rap artist that doesn’t have a ambitious Jew behind em. Let alone them having one of their own tribesmen who can rap? That’s access to marketing and pub that the spitters on the bottom have zero access to.

Playing field tilted.

On paper he’s ridiculously marketable and might be far more marketable than any hip hop artist to date. He covers every single angle AROUND THE WORLD. Forget the US market. That’s a small piece of where he’s heading to and all this during the rise of the Internet and social media?

He’s got more tools than anyone before has ever had period point blank period and he’s STILL NOT CONSIDERED elite.

Yea we just gon have to agree to disagree on this point my guy cause ain’t no way.

How many popular Canadian rappers do we have that crossed over in the United States? In the history of rap?

How many Jewish rappers have been successful in rap? Not lawyers or those working the background, rappers?

Drake took out a 30k loan to make his first video with Trey Songz, there were no backers or those to push him.

This guy wasn’t marketable and seen as having the potential to be one of the biggest rappers ever.

Like you said, we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

 

[DJCandle]

I’m glad that you replied so that I could explain why Drake’s “Not” marketable.

Let’s look at the facts:

Canadian.

Mixed.

Identifies as Jewish.

Acted on a teen television series. Actors usually don’t transition well into the field of music because fans only see them in one light.

He raps but also sings and harmonizes about his emotions on relationships with women record.

On paper that’s not marketable and that person on paper shouldn’t have succeeded with being successful in the US much less in the world of music.

Especially Hip Hop music.

So no, he’s not “Marketable”. Neither is Biggie, Lil Wayne, Kanye etc…

Their music and talent got them into the forefront and made them successful.

Also, wait til this week and watch Hot97 turn back into Drake97. Ebro and Rosenberg gonna keep this thing playing nonstop.

 

[REDLINE]

Also, wait til this week and watch Hot97 turn back into Drake97. Ebro and Rosenberg gonna keep this thing playing nonstop.

 

[GAMETHEORY]

Jewish boy doing good

 

[DJCandle]

How many popular Canadian rappers do we have that crossed over in the United States? In the history of rap?

How many Jewish rappers have been successful in rap? Not lawyers or those working the background, rappers?

Drake took out a 30k loan to make his first video with Trey Songz, there were no backers or those to push him.

This guy wasn’t marketable and seen as having the potential to be one of the biggest rappers ever.

Like you said, we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

Bro, him being Canadian crossing over don’t mean anything. Canadian’s thriving in the US market is nothing new. It’s still North American English. That nigga sounds like us except when he don’t ala his Grime and International tracks which STILL bang here.

As for Jewish rappers being a success, there are a few with a name but none of his level. Action Bronson, Alchemist, Marly Mark, Beastie Boys ..

Here’s a hot take: Lil Dicky’s pen is better then Drake’s.

 

[REDLINE]

Bro, him being Canadian crossing over don’t mean anything. Canadian’s thriving in the US market is nothing new. It’s still North American English. That nigga sounds like us except when he don’t ala his Grime and International tracks which STILL bang here.

As for Jewish rappers being a success, there are a few with a name but none of his level. Action Bronson, Alchemist, Marly Mark, Beastie Boys ..

Here’s a hot take: Lil Dicky’s pen is better then Drake’s.

In 2007 when Drake entered the game, the only crossover Hip Hop artist from Canada up to that point was

And I don’t know any niggas who listened to Marky Mark, Beastie’s get a pass.

Again, a Canadian rapper talking about making it in the US and being respected in Hip Hop? That was a far stretch, but he did it.

 

[REDLINE]

Bro, him being Canadian crossing over don’t mean anything. Canadian’s thriving in the US market is nothing new. It’s still North American English. That nigga sounds like us except when he don’t ala his Grime and International tracks which STILL bang here.

As for Jewish rappers being a success, there are a few with a name but none of his level. Action Bronson, Alchemist, Marly Mark, Beastie Boys ..

Here’s a hot take: Lil Dicky’s pen is better then Drake’s.

And Lil D…

is talented. But he’s not nicer than Drake

 

[DJCandle]

And Lil D…

is talented. But he’s not nicer than Drake

Nah not as artist, just talking pen for pen.

 

[REDLINE]

Nah not as artist, just talking pen for pen.

I haven’t heard enough of that Other guy to make that assessment

 

[Pimpslap Slim]

Shit iz wack

 

[playahaitian]

He’s definitely a megastar. Not saying he isn’t but who’s really his competition? Are there a plethora of spitters out there? If there are, put me on famo cause I don’t know many. We know the obvious ones like Kendrick, Cole, Wale, and even of those 3, I think Cole’s gotta better pen than the Canadian, but to me, mans gets his flowers from everywhere but the spitter circles.

I lowkey want him to fuck around and call Black Though out just to test his metal.



Again, we agree here. amazing popstar but questionable rapper for the choices he’s made. Not saying it’s even a bad thing, but don’t call yourself an elite MC when rap isn’t your strong suit.

Stick to singing and the Afrobeat remixes and it’s all good. Chunes.


His subject matter is very estrogen riddled for my taste. I personally don’t care about struggles with his baby mother or the next chick he’s fucking.

That’s cool if that’s what he wants to do for what, 7 studio albums? Hey, make your music and cash in form your lane.

But when it comes to hip hop? I mean he’s free to wanna walk into that ring, but we’ve already seen what happened there most recently.

Common and Pusha handled him with 2am on the toilet bowl bars and he disappeared only to reappear to pick on someone he could handle like Meek. Checker moves.

And fuck Meek for not handling his business. This nigga didn’t just let Philly down but the whole of hip hop spitters cause to me, that’s light work.

That was so freaking well written

I'm hating

 

[playahaitian]

Bro, him being Canadian crossing over don’t mean anything. Canadian’s thriving in the US market is nothing new. It’s still North American English. That nigga sounds like us except when he don’t ala his Grime and International tracks which STILL bang here.

As for Jewish rappers being a success, there are a few with a name but none of his level. Action Bronson, Alchemist, Marly Mark, Beastie Boys ..

Here’s a hot take: Lil Dicky’s pen is better then Drake’s.

I would not say better...

And I never will support lil dick for that Michele Obama line on Sway

But outside that?

That white boy is nice Hella nice

The problem is EVERY SINGLE modern white rapper male or female is a direct descendent of Marshall

So as much as I respect them I hear him in all their rhymes.

Or someone else ie old droog.

Respect to Asher Roth for flipping his flow up as he matured.

 

[playahaitian]

Andre 3000 Responds to Drake Leaking Kanye West's Drizzy Diss Track Featuring Three Stacks

Details here.

www.xxlmag.com

@ViCiouS @largebillsonlyplease

 

[CoTtOnMoUf]

Drake Confirms 'Certified Lover Boy' September 3rd Release

Drake hit Instagram early Monday morning to confirm his Certified Lover Boy album's Sept. 3 drop date.

thesource.com

Denzel Washington is
my play cousin.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Drake makes pretty good music. He can really rap
he isn't really all that artistic or interesting
I understand it's good music but not really relatable in the sense of I'm not ever really feeling like I wonder why she didn't text me back
I'm not missing what we used to do etc etc
there's a lane for it and a lot of people do feel like that it resonates so no knock on them.

 

[Entrepronegro]

Denzel Washington is
my play cousin.

That's cool.

 

[Complex]

He makes music for faggots, simps and chicks

 

[DJCandle]

I would not say better...

And I never will support lil dick for that Michele Obama line on Sway

But outside that?

That white boy is nice Hella nice

The problem is EVERY SINGLE modern white rapper male or female is a direct descendent of Marshall

So as much as I respect them I hear him in all their rhymes.

Or someone else ie old droog.

Respect to Asher Roth for flipping his flow up as he matured.

Fair enough. They’re all Marshall descendants in one way or another. Em really laid down a blueprint.

Meanwhile Old Droog sounds like Nas like shit don’t he?? What Bronsolino was to Ghostface.

Identical sounding.

 

[playahaitian]

Fair enough. They’re all Marshall descendants in one way or another. Em really laid down a blueprint.

Meanwhile Old Droog sounds like Nas like shit don’t he?? What Bronsolino was to Ghostface.

Identical sounding.

that is my point they ALL sound derisive to the point of Post Malone jacking Everlast when he stopped rapping.

 

[playahaitian]

The Unfortunate Reason R. Kelly Is Credited on Drake’s Certified Lover Boy
By Dee Lockett@dee_lockett

Kelly in 2019. Photo: Getty Images
If you made it to the eighth track of Drake’s new album Certified Lover Boy (congrats to you, that’s a lot of work), and happened to peruse the details of that song, “TSU,” you might’ve caught a couple big names, one less offensive than the other. First: Justin Timberlake. Then, two names under him on the list of credited songwriters, R. Kelly. That’s Robert Kelly of both R&B and accused-predatory fame, the same R. Kelly currently on trial in Brooklyn federal court for racketeering and sex-crimes charges. In fact, hours after Certified Lover’s Boy release, R. Kelly was back in court, wrapping up the third week of trial. So, how exactly did this songwriting credit happen? It’s yet another classic case of song publishing rights; as Billboard notes, “TSU” samples/interpolates some of the orchestral bits from R. Kelly’s 1998 single “Half on a Baby.” And so rather than wind up in Olivia Rodrigo’s current position, it appears Drake got ahead of divvying up songwriting royalties. (JT is credited because the song also uses NSYNC’s version of Christopher Cross’s “Sailing”; Timbaland is also credited.)



Following the trial on Friday, R. Kelly attorney Devereaux Cannick said of the credit: “It just speaks to his genius and the demand for his work. I mean, he’s a literary genius, it doesn’t surprise me. I don’t think it’s that much about the money, I think the public and other artists want his participation. I’m sure he’s totally unaware of it because he’s consumed right now but I will share with him.”

 

[Entrepronegro]

 

[king reckless]

I’m glad that you replied so that I could explain why Drake’s “Not” marketable.

Let’s look at the facts:

Canadian.

Mixed.

Identifies as Jewish.

Acted on a teen television series. Actors usually don’t transition well into the field of music because fans only see them in one light.

He raps but also sings and harmonizes about his emotions on relationships with women record.

On paper that’s not marketable and that person on paper shouldn’t have succeeded with being successful in the US much less in the world of music.

Especially Hip Hop music.

So no, he’s not “Marketable”. Neither is Biggie, Lil Wayne, Kanye etc…

Their music and talent got them into the forefront and made them successful.

Your facts:

Canadian
Justin B.

Mixed
Mariah, Prince, etc.

Identified as Jewish
Sammy Davis, Candy Man


I want an age check. Strategy and marketing is 90 percent of the game. I'm sorry but Prince was a better artist than Michael. But Michael had the greatest leverage. Michael fought to make front cover of Rolling Stones. His music label forced MTV to feature blacks on their platform. Quincy Jones masterminded Thriller.

Prince wrote, ghostwrote, arranged, played, danced. He still needed a mentor to package his brand to fans.

James Brown was the funkiest musician alive but he can't the best singer. Who is the fuck is Madonna without marketing?

 

[REDLINE]

Your facts:

Canadian
Justin B.

Mixed
Mariah, Prince, etc.

Identified as Jewish
Sammy Davis, Candy Man


I want an age check. Strategy and marketing is 90 percent of the game. I'm sorry but Prince was a better artist than Michael. But Michael had the greatest leverage. Michael fought to make front cover of Rolling Stones. His music label forced MTV to feature blacks on their platform. Quincy Jones masterminded Thriller.

Prince wrote, ghostwrote, arranged, played, danced. He still needed a mentor to package his brand to fans.

James Brown was the funkiest musician alive but he can't the best singer. Who is the fuck is Madonna without marketing?

I also want an age check.

I need you to know the difference between “Marketable” and “Marketing”.

Drake walking into DefJam or Rocafella at the age of 22 fresh from Degrassi High telling them he’s a rapper\singer from Canada about to take over the music world wouldn’t have been well received.

I doubt they would’ve seen the “Marketability” at the time. Jay told Kanye to “Just make my beats nigga”. But a Canadian rapper\singer who acted on a teen show was marketable as a rap artist in the United States?

I don’t think so.

 

[REDLINE]

Your facts:

Canadian
Justin B.

Mixed
Mariah, Prince, etc.

Identified as Jewish
Sammy Davis, Candy Man


I want an age check. Strategy and marketing is 90 percent of the game. I'm sorry but Prince was a better artist than Michael. But Michael had the greatest leverage. Michael fought to make front cover of Rolling Stones. His music label forced MTV to feature blacks on their platform. Quincy Jones masterminded Thriller.

Prince wrote, ghostwrote, arranged, played, danced. He still needed a mentor to package his brand to fans.

James Brown was the funkiest musician alive but he can't the best singer. Who is the fuck is Madonna without marketing?

What Canadian rapper crossed over and was widely accepted in the United States before Drake?

There was none. So the chances of him being successful in the states were slim.

And we’re talking about rap, not singing. Hip Hop is different. If I have to explain the difference I might have to ask for a color check too.

 

[king reckless]

What Canadian rapper crossed over and was widely accepted in the United States before Drake?

There was none. So the chances of him being successful in the states were slim.

And we’re talking about rap, not singing. Hip Hop is different. If I have to explain the difference I might have to ask for a color check too.

Okay, somewhat of a reach, at least, but yeah. Fresh Wes was never that big.

Edit: you brought dude already.

And for the record, young blood, singing been worked its way in hip hop, but it's not integral to the art form.

Here's Whistle





Here's the Force MDs





How about UTFO? Kangol 1st Haitian, not 'clef






Not singing? You broke Nate Dogg's heart. Or TJ Swan, dude that sung on Biz Markies tracks? But you knew that.

If I really wanted to take it there, we could brought up hip hop orphan, freestyle. Most of that is singing over Planet Rock, the original tunes.