Dr. Umar Johnson Vs. the State of PA Board of Psychology
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Okay I'm starting to agree with some of ya'll. Boyce did an half hour or so Friday night on Umar. When some people complained about it, he basically told them to fuck off. Dude concentrate on building your black business empire and quit worrying about Umar. Umar will literally have his day in court to prove himself.
Told y’all Boyce is evolving into the fat passive aggressive simp he was in high school over this Umar shit
Shameful.
I didn't follow him (like the others) but I can see his whole aura has changed. Dude seemed like a mature guy about his business but he's now coming off as someone who wants to be "down" (look at me).
Isaiah 11:6
And notice how he brushes off the Young Pharoah’s sound advice like oh he’s young.
Sad that this youngin peeps game and old dick riders are so blind.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/p...n-psychology-license-discipline-20180102.html
Popular speaker Umar Johnson faces fines over lack of psychology license
Updated: JANUARY 3, 2018 — 9:17 AM EST
Umar Johnson is taking a break. The popular Philadelphia-bred pundit had just finished a four-city “Kwanzaa tour” of Chicago, Atlanta, Houston, and Detroit. He spoke on special education, the black family, and what’s called black uplift, themes he regularly mines for his 342,000-user Instagram following.
But over the holiday season, Johnson used that Instagram account to rally support for himself: His primary Facebook and GoFundMe have been suspended, he told his audience, and he faces discipline from Pennsylvania’s Board of Psychology.
The state Bureau of Professional and Occupational Affairs has charged Johnson, known as “Dr. Umar,” with portraying himself on his website as a psychologist who practices counseling services without a state license to do either. If that is proved, the board could levy fines and order Johnson to pay for the cost of the investigation.
In 2014, Johnson shared his vision of converting a defunct Virginia historically black college into a boarding school that he would name the Frederick Douglass and Marcus Garvey RBG International Leadership Academy for Black Boys. (Johnson regularly describes himself as a relative of Douglass, another claim that critics dispute.) He set a $5 million fund-raising goal that he hoped to hit by August, but did not. He had been raising money on GoFundMe, and recently said they’d hit around $400,000 before their campaign was suspended. This comes after accusations, prominently argued on the Root, that Johnson’s fund-raising lacked transparency and his organization lacked 501(c)(3) status.
Johnson, who has described himself as “Black America’s No. 1 Most Requested Scholar-Orator,” the “prince of Pan-Afrikanism” and “the foremost expert” on the “school-to-prison pipeline,” has experienced waves of criticism along his rise to national fame. Many social media users have lambasted his political and philosophical views, among them strong condemnations of homosexuality, interracial marriage, and ADHD medication.
His detractors have long questioned whether the degrees he lists were earned and whether he has scammed the public by calling for donations for the boarding school. His fans, however, hear a uniquely clear thinker dedicated to the uplift of black children who has been unfairly maligned.
The Root verified in July that Johnson has a doctorate in clinical psychology from Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine.
Johnson was notified of the state investigation in August. In a response that month, Johnson explained that he worked as a school psychologist for the School District of Philadelphia, Chester Upland School District, and various charter schools, which required certifications as a school psychologist but not a state license to practice psychology.
Although a Department of State spokeswoman said Tuesday his hearing had been postponed because Johnson’s lawyer requested a continuance, she said Wednesday it was back on for 9 a.m., Jan. 8.
Johnson refused to answer a reporter’s questions. In brief comments, he said he was “tired” of the “despicable” coverage of him from mainstream media.
In a recent YouTube video, he stated that he grew up in North Philadelphia, near Eighth Street and Susquehanna Avenue. He described a childhood where at least once he stayed in a homeless shelter, and where quite often he loved watching movies at a neighborhood theater.
A decade ago, he was a regular speaker at Black & Nobel, the black-owned bookstore at Broad Street and Erie Avenue. Hakim Hopkins, Black & Nobel’s owner, lamented Johnson’s recent plight and noted that Johnson doesn’t need a license to deliver his message online.
“I don’t think he was doing it for the piece of paper, he was doing it because so many people want to hear and see him,” said Hopkins, who isn’t convinced these events were a final goodbye. “I don’t think he can stop doing it.”
Observers have affiliated Johnson with “hotep” political movements. Often gathering in online discussions, hoteps are known for a blend of Afrocentric affinities, black radicalism, and social conservatism. Molefi Kete Asante, a noted Temple University scholar, disagrees that Johnson and like-minded thinkers are Afrocentric.
“It is an academic theory; it is a philosophy. It’s founded on facts and information,” Asante said. “He hit a market of people who are hungry for information who do not necessarily know how to discern what is based on evidence and what is not.”
This story has been updated.
This story has been corrected to accurately reflect the degree he received from Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine.
Just read the article. The only issue I have is that the reporter, and others for that matter, never try to interview any parents or children that have worked with him.
Both of these niggas are tender. And to think, plenty of y'all muthafuckas were in numerous threads defending these dudes and cussin' anybody out that eveb appeared to have said anything disparaging about 'em.
He's still talking about that bullshit school.
And he shut his Instagram down. I guess he has to maintain the build up and drama for his 'trial before Caesar' in 2 days.
This asshole is going to exit stage right in one of two ways. He's gonna go out in a ball of flame and never be heard from again or he's gonna pocket what's left of those donations and head to another country.
He was a nerd, but now he's becoming a lame
Nerd's get respect in my book, because they ride their own wave no matter what people think
Lames never get respect tho, because they are trying to be something they are not.
.............More and more Boyce is trying to be something he is not
I am a lisenced school psychologist and I was going to post this when this forum open up but I said, “Fuck it, let me save myself the argument.” But this is a popular forum so let me add coming from the field. The Board doesn’t work like what many people believe. There are three levels to this. The first is your degree. If... Dr. Johnson is a school psychologist. To practice school psychology, most states require that all you need is a masters degree and a state certification to practice. State certification is level two. With it, you can only practice school psychology in schools. You can not diagnosis. However, you can classify children for special education. So you can be a school psychologist without a doctorate. The third level is licensure. In order to be a licensed psychologist, you have to pass a hard test called the EPPP. (Most of us call it the E triple P.). It stands for the Examinition for Professional Practice In Psychology. Anyone with a doctorate degree in any field of psychology can take this exam. Once you pass it, you can diagnosis people, have a private practice, work in a hospital setting, etc.
This is what I believe happen to Dr. Johnson. I think he has a doctorate degree in school psychology. But, I think: 1. He has never passed the EPPP or 2. He passed but he is introducing himself as a clinical psychologist instead of a school psychologist with a license to privately practice. Again, since anyone with a doctorate degree in psychology can take the EPPP, we have to specify what we obtained our degrees in. If we don’t, it gives people the false impresssion that we obtained our degrees in clinical psychology - when in fact we obtained our license through “the back door.” If Dr. Johnson has a license, they don’t call him in to discuss his license. They know he has it already. However, if he doesn’t they will strip him from his certifation to be a school psychologist which at this point, he doesn’t care. He makes more money touring.
However if he has his license, there is a third problem - soliciting money to start up a school. Starting schools are not easy. They take a lot of credentials, paperwork, and it has to be approved by the state. Having a psychologist degree doesn’t give you the credentials to start up a school. You have to understand curriculum, pedagogy, and education. So the board may ask him to produce his educational credentials. Because if they believe he is using his licensure to make it appear that he can develop a school, he is misleading the public. Again, the Board will strip him from his license. But then again, he wouldn’t care at this point because he has fame, fortune, and most importantly a following. People will believe him as evidence by the amount of money people put in his hand without asking for credentials.
This is what I believe happen to Dr. Johnson. I think he has a doctorate degree in school psychology. But, I think: 1. He has never passed the EPPP or 2. He passed but he is introducing himself as a clinical psychologist instead of a school psychologist with a license to privately practice. Again, since anyone with a doctorate degree in psychology can take the EPPP, we have to specify what we obtained our degrees in. If we don’t, it gives people the false impresssion that we obtained our degrees in clinical psychology - when in fact we obtained our license through “the back door.” If Dr. Johnson has a license, they don’t call him in to discuss his license. They know he has it already. However, if he doesn’t they will strip him from his certifation to be a school psychologist which at this point, he doesn’t care. He makes more money touring.
However if he has his license, there is a third problem - soliciting money to start up a school. Starting schools are not easy. They take a lot of credentials, paperwork, and it has to be approved by the state. Having a psychologist degree doesn’t give you the credentials to start up a school. You have to understand curriculum, pedagogy, and education. So the board may ask him to produce his educational credentials. Because if they believe he is using his licensure to make it appear that he can develop a school, he is misleading the public. Again, the Board will strip him from his license. But then again, he wouldn’t care at this point because he has fame, fortune, and most importantly a following. People will believe him as evidence by the amount of money people put in his hand without asking for credentials.
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Thank you for that thorough breakdown.
There is an option I overlooked. It’s written in between the lines but it’s not stated. You can have ONLY a doctorate degree in psychology with no certification or license. At this point, you are not a psychologist. Your a doctor with a degree in psychology. You can not do anything with this status. This may also be his case. If he has no certification or license, he will be in big trouble.
Some of yall investing too much of your time into this shit. Yall just as weird and Umar, Tariq and Boyce.
As for what that young Pharaoh guy was saying....If Umar fucking you over will make you keep your distance from other Black people who are tryna help, then you were never down with helping Black people to begin with.
But anyways..I still take note from all three. Not about this back & forth girly shit, but about stuff that pertains to Black folks. When you look pass their weird egos and hustles, theres something of value still there. Do with it what u will.
As for what that young Pharaoh guy was saying....If Umar fucking you over will make you keep your distance from other Black people who are tryna help, then you were never down with helping Black people to begin with.
But anyways..I still take note from all three. Not about this back & forth girly shit, but about stuff that pertains to Black folks. When you look pass their weird egos and hustles, theres something of value still there. Do with it what u will.
Bingo. 1 day to go.
If this woman feels he is a liar, "emotionally unstable, hypersensitive" and lacking in "the ability to see his own wrongs", why would she begin her statement with suggesting how he could start an "Afrikan based home school"? Why would she still want an "emotionally (and mentally) unstable, hypersensitive", "liar" suffering from narcissistic personality disorder to be in charge of people's children?
Yeah she IS conflicted.
Because as I stated earlier, the women ( especially single mothers) love him and they more than anybody is leaving a light on for him.
As you’re witnessing that light is fading fast.
Yea... She also professed her love for the man right before slandering him and throwing him under the bus and backing over him a few times. Most of these hotep knee grows are atleast halfway batshit.
If it’s so touch to open a school how did others like puff open a school or Jaylen Rose neither have Umars background but have money and name.
Just came here to remind yall who may not know or are maybe still "on the fence"
Dudes a fraud. Both of them are. Mmkay. Have a nice day.
Dudes a fraud. Both of them are. Mmkay. Have a nice day.
Because it's not THEM who are doing it. They are backing someone who is actually qualified and was already involved and experienced in the process. In Puffs case it's a guy named Steve Perry who has already run schools. I don't know anything about Jalen Rose but I suspect it's a similar situation. These guys are ADVOCATES ,not the primary operators.
LOL Who's the other one?
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