Titans Season 3's Barbara Fight Does Something The MCU & DCEU Still Haven't
Titans' Barbara fight changes the game.
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One of the best shows out at the moment.
'Titans' star opens up about leaving the show: 'It was for the best'
"Would I return to Titans? Yes. Do I feel like I found closure and peace? Absolutely," says the departing actor.
i watch this show every week
I don't know if I enjoy it
which is strange.
but starfire and blackfire?
are freaking gorgeous
that is all
I don't know if I enjoy it
which is strange.
but starfire and blackfire?
are freaking gorgeous
that is all
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This DC show is phenomenal. Alot better than doom patrol I don't know what the hell is going on with that show.
I watch doom patrol
And I find it difficult to be critical because it is EXACTLY what it wants to be and was advertised as...
You either in or you out
Ain't no middle ground
It's far from my favorite show
but I'm happy it exists and I watch every episode.
yeah i stopped watching doom patrol
bruh thats exclty how i feel
I still watch it
Cause I like that style of storytelling and grew up a fan of the comic
If you aint like that comic?
Oh man you are definitely not gonna like that show.
Its not BAD...
but it ain't GOOD either
I have no idea what it is.
but ALL the pieces are there for this to have been a CLASSIC series
I don't know if they have TOO MUCH freedom or to little
but it just seems like they have an idea but can't seem to lay it out over an ENTIRE season.
I need to catch up on doom patrol and titans
‘Titans’ Renewed For Season 4 At HBO Max
Titans is returning for a fourth season. The drama series, which follows a group of young superheroes, has been renewed by HBO Max. It comes ahead of its third season finale, which airs on October 21 (see clip below). Cancellations/Renewals Scorecard: TV Shows Ended Or Continuing In 2020-21...
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Titans May Have Just Teased a Major Kingdom Come Hero
A wild sequence in the latest episode of Titans Season 3, "Prodigal," may have teased a future hero from DC's Kingdom Come.
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The city about to get destroyed and super boy busy rebuilding his alien girlfriend ship?
Man us comic book fans are such easy marks
A few name drops and I'm smiling from ear to ear...
Roy Harper
Argus
Selina kyle
margarita vee
A few name drops and I'm smiling from ear to ear...
Roy Harper
Argus
Selina kyle
margarita vee
So ummmm
We just gonna give starfire new powers with absolutely no explanation?
Ok
We just gonna give starfire new powers with absolutely no explanation?
Ok
Death?
Is Just a suggestion huh?
Is Just a suggestion huh?
Damn Nightwing knocked down everything moving.
Good lawd
Blackfire >>>>>>>
Blackfire >>>>>>>
Dawn, Starfire, Wonder girl, and wheels
Directed by Chad Lowe
Impressive
Impressive
And it looks like that is just a beginning...
'Titans' star Brenton Thwaites shares his season 3 highlights and season 4 hopes
Brenton Thwaites reflects on his 'Titans' season 3 highlights and shares his hopes for season 4.
Titans star Brenton Thwaites shares his season 3 highlights and season 4 hopes
By Chancellor AgardOctober 21, 2021 at 01:00 PM EDT
Warning: This article contains spoilers for the Titans season 3 finale.
Teamwork made the dream work once again on Titans.
In the HBO Max drama's season 3 finale, the titular superteam's young heroes reunited to stop Dr. Jonathan Crane (Vincent Karthesier) from essentially blowing up Gotham City with fear toxin. While Dick (Brenton Thwaites), Beast Boy (Ryan Potter), new recruit Tim Drake (Jay Lycurgo), and the redemption-seeking Jason Todd (Curran Walters) infiltrated Wayne Manor, where Crane was hunkered down, Starfire (Anna Diop), Raven (Teagan Croft), Blackstar (Damaris Lewis), Superboy (Joshua Orpin), and Donna Troy (Conor Leslie) combined their powers to shower the city in the Lazarus Pit's life-restoring water in case anything went wrong. In the end, the first group thwarted Crane's plan and sent him right back to Arkham.
In the aftermath of the ordeal, A.R.G.U.S. attempted to recruit Donna while Jason set off on his own. Meanwhile, Dick rented an RV so the Titans could road-trip back to Gotham, with Tim in tow. Thankfully this isn't the end of the road for the team, as Titans was just renewed for a fourth season.
EW had a chance to catch up with Thwaites to reflect on what some have called the show's best season yet and discuss his hopes for season 4.
Brenton Thwaites on 'Titans'
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ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: When I spoke to Alan Ritchson, he said he thought this was the show's best season yet. Looking back on it, do you agree?
BRENTON THWAITES: Yeah, I do. I think it's due to the fact that we had a good story, a world-building story, and a problem that was high-stakes for the whole of Gotham. Because we're superheroes, our job is to protect people, save people, and do good. In past seasons we've been doing that, but I guess the threat to the most amount of people was the reason why we had a really big problem to solve. And a good villain. The better the villain, the better the superhero. We had Crane, who was planning to destroy Gotham and kill essentially millions of people, as our problem. Watching us figure out how to overcome that, I feel, was probably the most interesting so far.
Despite the fact that you shot during the pandemic, it felt like we saw the Titans working together way more than past seasons, and I know in the past you've said how much you enjoy the group fight scenes. Did you feel a shift in terms of the team's cohesion this season?
Yeah, totally. In season 2 we got stuck a little a bit with so many people in a room. Just the dynamics of how to shoot that is quite challenging and time-consuming. Just for a point of difference, I know that the showrunners planned to make season3 a story where we're all following our own story lines but essentially collaborating and working together on the same goal. Towards the end, you have Dick Grayson and Superboy going out on their own. You've got Donna Troy and Tim Drake [in] their own story line with the GCPD and threat of cops in the street. So planted around different locations is a different kind of conflict that all our characters are working through. It's harder to shoot. It's more locations. It's a complete challenge to produce that. But essentially, that's the reason why people are loving season 3, because it's interesting and high-stakes, and you've got these superheroes realistically solving a bunch of these huge fires that Crane has started.
What was your favorite aspect of season 3?
I do enjoy the fight scenes, because it challenges me. It's physical. It's demanding. One that comes to my mind is the fight scene [with Jason Todd] in episode 4. We're in the woods, and we're doing that big scene. I really enjoyed the Barbara story line this season. It was a little bit different. It was filled with a lot of backstory right from the get-go, and so we had a lot of material to play off, as opposed to just meeting and developing a relationship. It was already very developed. There was already a certain conflict between us. That was one that I enjoyed seeing through to the end. We had our moments. We're slowly starting to work together professionally. The personal relationship is paralleling that a little bit. So that was cool in the dramatic sense, but I do enjoy the fighting stuff.
As a fan of Dick and Barbara's relationship, were you disappointed when Dick decided to leave Gotham?
No, you know what? It's funny. I think that the professional and the personal for that relationship were parallel. Once the professional ended, I don't know, it felt like it was a natural end to our personal relationship. There's a lot of love. There's a lot of respect. But I guess we just both knew that it was up, our time in Gotham was up, and we didn't need to be there anymore. So that relationship, whether it will end or not, I think that it's one of those things where it's a respectful, mutual end to the relationship.
Brenton Thwaites and Jay Lycurgo on 'Titans'
| CREDIT: HBO MAX
The season ends with Dick bringing Tim Drake onto the team. What lessons do you think Dick has learned from the Jason ordeal that he'll apply to training Tim?
I think that revenge is maybe not something to focus on in fighting crime and fulfilling your day, that trust and loyalty is a big part out of why we have such a good team and why we have the ability to take on these supervillains and succeed. [And] I guess the why. Why are we doing this? Why does Tim want to do this? It can't just be to drive in the Batmobile and to shoot hooks up into the sky and fly around. That's a certain element that we all love, I'm not going to lie. But I think that the beauty of Titans is it focuses in on the character arcs and explains why these people are doing the things they're doing. I think if Dick's to teach Tim anything and to impart any wisdom, it would be that if the reason why you're doing this is not really developed, then you can't do this. I think that's what he's waiting to see. He's testing him. He's testing to see whether this kid just wants to jump in the action and have fun for the sake of it, or if he really wants to do good and protect people, save people, fight for what he believes in.
Do you have any idea what's in store for season 4 yet?
Not a single idea, mate.
In that case, what are your hopes for season 4?
Well, it's more to do with the characters that I haven't seen come to light yet, that I would really love to come to the front of the screen and have major story lines. I'd love to see a story line develop between Superboy and the Titans. There's a lot of juice in that, because we've seen a lot of him be good and a team player, and really attach himself to Dick's morals and values. But we all know there's this hidden dark side in that character that I think would be really interesting to explore. That's one of my favorite characters. I think Josh plays that very well, that flippant double-sided good-and-bad character.
But then, essentially, it's all about the villain. Titans is a series that structurally evolves around a villain or two. In the first season it was two villains. In the second it was Deathstroke. In the third it was Crane. So I'm really interested to see who the season 4 villain is, or who are the multiple villains that will be in the series. What are the different ways the Titans can band together to defeat this villain? Or what are the ways that this villain can rupture that circle and break us away? Who are we going to boldly kill off, if we want to kill off someone? This season we killed off Hank [Ritchson]. Hank was such a strong character for us. We're all very sad to see him go, but that was such a great move for the season and for the show. So we might do that again. I'm really not sure, mate. I'm excited to see anything happen.
There's so many possibilities with Titans. We could go intergalactic to Tamran and explore of that relationship a little bit more. They could come to Earth, and we could have this big alien explosion. Dick could explore his relationship with Bruce Wayne [Iain Glen] a little bit. Maybe they could start developing a personal relationship that's a little detached from the business side of the father-son thing that Dick has always felt a certain level of animosity towards him. In season 3 it was nice to see that returned a little bit, and to see that Dick is starting to find himself and starting to get his confidence. He's his own superhero. But perhaps Bruce Wayne is starting to deteriorate a little bit and fall off the bandwagon? That's an interesting dynamic as well. Then the other big one [is] Tim Drake. Jay has done such a great job of playing that kid who really wants to be involved, but maybe he's not there yet. It'd be great to see him come to light and get his confidence and learn the ropes of being a superhero.
In the HBO Max drama's season 3 finale, the titular superteam's young heroes reunited to stop Dr. Jonathan Crane (Vincent Karthesier) from essentially blowing up Gotham City with fear toxin. While Dick (Brenton Thwaites), Beast Boy (Ryan Potter), new recruit Tim Drake (Jay Lycurgo), and the redemption-seeking Jason Todd (Curran Walters) infiltrated Wayne Manor, where Crane was hunkered down, Starfire (Anna Diop), Raven (Teagan Croft), Blackstar (Damaris Lewis), Superboy (Joshua Orpin), and Donna Troy (Conor Leslie) combined their powers to shower the city in the Lazarus Pit's life-restoring water in case anything went wrong. In the end, the first group thwarted Crane's plan and sent him right back to Arkham.
In the aftermath of the ordeal, A.R.G.U.S. attempted to recruit Donna while Jason set off on his own. Meanwhile, Dick rented an RV so the Titans could road-trip back to Gotham, with Tim in tow. Thankfully this isn't the end of the road for the team, as Titans was just renewed for a fourth season.
EW had a chance to catch up with Thwaites to reflect on what some have called the show's best season yet and discuss his hopes for season 4.
Brenton Thwaites on 'Titans'
| CREDIT: HBO MAX
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: When I spoke to Alan Ritchson, he said he thought this was the show's best season yet. Looking back on it, do you agree?
BRENTON THWAITES: Yeah, I do. I think it's due to the fact that we had a good story, a world-building story, and a problem that was high-stakes for the whole of Gotham. Because we're superheroes, our job is to protect people, save people, and do good. In past seasons we've been doing that, but I guess the threat to the most amount of people was the reason why we had a really big problem to solve. And a good villain. The better the villain, the better the superhero. We had Crane, who was planning to destroy Gotham and kill essentially millions of people, as our problem. Watching us figure out how to overcome that, I feel, was probably the most interesting so far.
Despite the fact that you shot during the pandemic, it felt like we saw the Titans working together way more than past seasons, and I know in the past you've said how much you enjoy the group fight scenes. Did you feel a shift in terms of the team's cohesion this season?
Yeah, totally. In season 2 we got stuck a little a bit with so many people in a room. Just the dynamics of how to shoot that is quite challenging and time-consuming. Just for a point of difference, I know that the showrunners planned to make season3 a story where we're all following our own story lines but essentially collaborating and working together on the same goal. Towards the end, you have Dick Grayson and Superboy going out on their own. You've got Donna Troy and Tim Drake [in] their own story line with the GCPD and threat of cops in the street. So planted around different locations is a different kind of conflict that all our characters are working through. It's harder to shoot. It's more locations. It's a complete challenge to produce that. But essentially, that's the reason why people are loving season 3, because it's interesting and high-stakes, and you've got these superheroes realistically solving a bunch of these huge fires that Crane has started.
What was your favorite aspect of season 3?
I do enjoy the fight scenes, because it challenges me. It's physical. It's demanding. One that comes to my mind is the fight scene [with Jason Todd] in episode 4. We're in the woods, and we're doing that big scene. I really enjoyed the Barbara story line this season. It was a little bit different. It was filled with a lot of backstory right from the get-go, and so we had a lot of material to play off, as opposed to just meeting and developing a relationship. It was already very developed. There was already a certain conflict between us. That was one that I enjoyed seeing through to the end. We had our moments. We're slowly starting to work together professionally. The personal relationship is paralleling that a little bit. So that was cool in the dramatic sense, but I do enjoy the fighting stuff.
As a fan of Dick and Barbara's relationship, were you disappointed when Dick decided to leave Gotham?
No, you know what? It's funny. I think that the professional and the personal for that relationship were parallel. Once the professional ended, I don't know, it felt like it was a natural end to our personal relationship. There's a lot of love. There's a lot of respect. But I guess we just both knew that it was up, our time in Gotham was up, and we didn't need to be there anymore. So that relationship, whether it will end or not, I think that it's one of those things where it's a respectful, mutual end to the relationship.
Brenton Thwaites and Jay Lycurgo on 'Titans'
| CREDIT: HBO MAX
The season ends with Dick bringing Tim Drake onto the team. What lessons do you think Dick has learned from the Jason ordeal that he'll apply to training Tim?
I think that revenge is maybe not something to focus on in fighting crime and fulfilling your day, that trust and loyalty is a big part out of why we have such a good team and why we have the ability to take on these supervillains and succeed. [And] I guess the why. Why are we doing this? Why does Tim want to do this? It can't just be to drive in the Batmobile and to shoot hooks up into the sky and fly around. That's a certain element that we all love, I'm not going to lie. But I think that the beauty of Titans is it focuses in on the character arcs and explains why these people are doing the things they're doing. I think if Dick's to teach Tim anything and to impart any wisdom, it would be that if the reason why you're doing this is not really developed, then you can't do this. I think that's what he's waiting to see. He's testing him. He's testing to see whether this kid just wants to jump in the action and have fun for the sake of it, or if he really wants to do good and protect people, save people, fight for what he believes in.
Do you have any idea what's in store for season 4 yet?
Not a single idea, mate.
In that case, what are your hopes for season 4?
Well, it's more to do with the characters that I haven't seen come to light yet, that I would really love to come to the front of the screen and have major story lines. I'd love to see a story line develop between Superboy and the Titans. There's a lot of juice in that, because we've seen a lot of him be good and a team player, and really attach himself to Dick's morals and values. But we all know there's this hidden dark side in that character that I think would be really interesting to explore. That's one of my favorite characters. I think Josh plays that very well, that flippant double-sided good-and-bad character.
But then, essentially, it's all about the villain. Titans is a series that structurally evolves around a villain or two. In the first season it was two villains. In the second it was Deathstroke. In the third it was Crane. So I'm really interested to see who the season 4 villain is, or who are the multiple villains that will be in the series. What are the different ways the Titans can band together to defeat this villain? Or what are the ways that this villain can rupture that circle and break us away? Who are we going to boldly kill off, if we want to kill off someone? This season we killed off Hank [Ritchson]. Hank was such a strong character for us. We're all very sad to see him go, but that was such a great move for the season and for the show. So we might do that again. I'm really not sure, mate. I'm excited to see anything happen.
There's so many possibilities with Titans. We could go intergalactic to Tamran and explore of that relationship a little bit more. They could come to Earth, and we could have this big alien explosion. Dick could explore his relationship with Bruce Wayne [Iain Glen] a little bit. Maybe they could start developing a personal relationship that's a little detached from the business side of the father-son thing that Dick has always felt a certain level of animosity towards him. In season 3 it was nice to see that returned a little bit, and to see that Dick is starting to find himself and starting to get his confidence. He's his own superhero. But perhaps Bruce Wayne is starting to deteriorate a little bit and fall off the bandwagon? That's an interesting dynamic as well. Then the other big one [is] Tim Drake. Jay has done such a great job of playing that kid who really wants to be involved, but maybe he's not there yet. It'd be great to see him come to light and get his confidence and learn the ropes of being a superhero.
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Why Titans Season 3 Retcons Season 2's Secret Origin Cliffhanger
The penultimate episode of Titans season 3 seems to retcon Titans' season 2 cliffhanger and the details of how Blackfire came to Earth.
BY MATT MORRISONPUBLISHED 1 DAY AGO
Warning: The following contains SPOILERS for Titans season 3, episode 12, "Prodigal."
The penultimate episode of Titans season 3, "Prodigal," changed the details of how Komand'r (AKA Blackfire) came to Earth in Titans' season 2 cliffhanger finale. This is notable given that Titans' season 3 had already retconned a considerable amount of Blackfire's backstory in a bid to make her into a more sympathetic character. However, it also makes it seem as if the series' writers might have forgotten their own plotline between seasons.
In the original New Teen Titans comics, Komand'r was the older sister of Koriand'r (AKA Starfire) and destined to be the Grand Ruler of the planet Tamaran. Unfortunately, Komand'r was born without the natural ability most Tamaraneans had to absorb ultraviolet light and harness it to fly. This was a mark of great shame to the royal family, and the privileges that should have gone to Blackfire as the firstborn child were instead given to Starfire. This instilled a murderous jealousy in Blackfire, which would eventually lead her to betray her family as part of a bid to take back what she felt was hers. The first two seasons of Titans recreated this story, though the birth order of the sisters was changed so that Blackfire was the younger sister and Starfire was the firstborn. The final scene of Titans season 2 depicted Blackfire's arrival on Earth, as she used Tamaranean technology to remotely take over the body of a young mother in a supermarket parking lot, abandoning the woman's two children and punching a random man before walking off.
Most of this was retconned over the course of Titans season 3. Blackfire's plans to murder her sister and ensure her rule of Tamaran went unopposed were thwarted off-camera, after Blackfire was captured and became the prisoner of an unidentified American government agency. After being rescued by Starfire and Beast Boy, Blackfire mellowed considerably, joined the Titans and began a romantic relationship with Conner the Superboy, apparently forgetting her fratricidal reasons for coming to Earth. However, Blackfire showed little loyalty to the Titans and, after being attacked by the GCPD while trying to surrender themselves, decided to go after the government scientist who tortured her and get her revenge. This led to the revelation, as Blackfire confronted the scientist in the episode "Prodigal," that he had her spaceship and could help her to go back to Tamaran.
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The idea that Blackfire had come to Earth in a ship rather than remotely possessing a human body flew in the face of everything that had been shown in Titans' season 2 finale. This retcon regarding how Blackfire came to Earth was one of several involving Blackfire's character and motivations. Several episodes earlier, the show also introduced a new subplot revealing that, in Titans' reality, it was Starfire who was born without powers and that her parents had stripped Blackfire of her abilities so that their firstborn daughter would be perfect.
There is no rhyme or reason for why the writers of Titans elected to make all these changes over the course of Titans season 3, other than the idea that the season couldn't support more than two villains. With the focus of Titans season 3's action on the Red Hood and Scarecrow and their attack on Gotham City, there was no time to fully examine the conflict between Starfire and Blackfire that was a core part of the characters in the comics. More, it made the cliffhanger of Titans' season 2 seem completely pointless and confusing, with the show trying to make the murderous monarch of an alien world who possessed an innocent woman's body and left her children for dead into a hero.
The penultimate episode of Titans season 3 seems to retcon Titans' season 2 cliffhanger and the details of how Blackfire came to Earth.
BY MATT MORRISONPUBLISHED 1 DAY AGO
Warning: The following contains SPOILERS for Titans season 3, episode 12, "Prodigal."
The penultimate episode of Titans season 3, "Prodigal," changed the details of how Komand'r (AKA Blackfire) came to Earth in Titans' season 2 cliffhanger finale. This is notable given that Titans' season 3 had already retconned a considerable amount of Blackfire's backstory in a bid to make her into a more sympathetic character. However, it also makes it seem as if the series' writers might have forgotten their own plotline between seasons.
In the original New Teen Titans comics, Komand'r was the older sister of Koriand'r (AKA Starfire) and destined to be the Grand Ruler of the planet Tamaran. Unfortunately, Komand'r was born without the natural ability most Tamaraneans had to absorb ultraviolet light and harness it to fly. This was a mark of great shame to the royal family, and the privileges that should have gone to Blackfire as the firstborn child were instead given to Starfire. This instilled a murderous jealousy in Blackfire, which would eventually lead her to betray her family as part of a bid to take back what she felt was hers. The first two seasons of Titans recreated this story, though the birth order of the sisters was changed so that Blackfire was the younger sister and Starfire was the firstborn. The final scene of Titans season 2 depicted Blackfire's arrival on Earth, as she used Tamaranean technology to remotely take over the body of a young mother in a supermarket parking lot, abandoning the woman's two children and punching a random man before walking off.
Most of this was retconned over the course of Titans season 3. Blackfire's plans to murder her sister and ensure her rule of Tamaran went unopposed were thwarted off-camera, after Blackfire was captured and became the prisoner of an unidentified American government agency. After being rescued by Starfire and Beast Boy, Blackfire mellowed considerably, joined the Titans and began a romantic relationship with Conner the Superboy, apparently forgetting her fratricidal reasons for coming to Earth. However, Blackfire showed little loyalty to the Titans and, after being attacked by the GCPD while trying to surrender themselves, decided to go after the government scientist who tortured her and get her revenge. This led to the revelation, as Blackfire confronted the scientist in the episode "Prodigal," that he had her spaceship and could help her to go back to Tamaran.
ADVERTISMENT
The idea that Blackfire had come to Earth in a ship rather than remotely possessing a human body flew in the face of everything that had been shown in Titans' season 2 finale. This retcon regarding how Blackfire came to Earth was one of several involving Blackfire's character and motivations. Several episodes earlier, the show also introduced a new subplot revealing that, in Titans' reality, it was Starfire who was born without powers and that her parents had stripped Blackfire of her abilities so that their firstborn daughter would be perfect.
There is no rhyme or reason for why the writers of Titans elected to make all these changes over the course of Titans season 3, other than the idea that the season couldn't support more than two villains. With the focus of Titans season 3's action on the Red Hood and Scarecrow and their attack on Gotham City, there was no time to fully examine the conflict between Starfire and Blackfire that was a core part of the characters in the comics. More, it made the cliffhanger of Titans' season 2 seem completely pointless and confusing, with the show trying to make the murderous monarch of an alien world who possessed an innocent woman's body and left her children for dead into a hero.
Titans Season 3 Ends With One Hero's Darkest Deed Yet
The Titans Season 3 finale, "Purple Rain," sees one hero doing something so incredibly dark without seemingly any moral issue.
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Batman & Red Hood Unite For Battle Against Nightwing's Army
Red Hood and the New Batman must join forces.
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Titans: What Raven Does To Scarecrow In Season 3's Finale
What happens to Scarecrow in Titans?
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Titans Sets Up A Classic Member To Finally Join In Season 4
Could Roy Harper be joining the Titans at last?
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Titans Season 3's ARGUS Reveal & Season 4 Setup Explained
ARGUS were working in Gotham all along.
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