Dave Chappelle's new Netflix special Sticks & Stones....what u think?

jack walsh13

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Brilliant.

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godofwine

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Bruh, I was looking at that logo, wondering WTF he got a Sbarro inspired logo...shit made me think of pizza at a food court. Then the X-Clan shit hit and I was like, "Ohhhhh!" The RBG under a big ass C.
:lol::lol::lol:
I loved that shit, too. I always wondered what went into the Chappelle logo.

Dave is a genius

"Why can't I say faggot, but I can say nigga?"

Remember No Vasaline when Ice Cube said, "You let a Jew break up my crew" and they bleeped it out?
 

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As I was leaving, I thought that too, but after thinking about it, it was cool the way it was. Besides, I was sitting next to a white bitch that was going waaaaaay overboard with her laughter. This bitch was literally falling out of her seat. Those of us around her were like :hmm:.
yeeeeeeeah, she was uncomfortable as fuk.....
 

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Only Dave could get away with a standup like this. You can't do this unless you're a genius-level comedian. That Michael Jackson pedo shit would get anyone else buried.

To add...a black comedian doing descriptive pedo jokes. That is super duper rare. The only person I've seen do funny pedo jokes was Jim Norton. Honorable mention for Louis CK joke about pedophilia and how it must be great, because otherwise why would someone risk doing it. He did that on SNL!! The fucking balls to do that on that platform!!
 

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To add...a black comedian doing descriptive pedo jokes. That is super duper rare. The only person I've seen do funny pedo jokes was Jim Norton. Honorable mention for Louis CK joke about pedophilia and how it must be great, because otherwise why would someone risk doing it. He did that on SNL!! The fucking balls to do that on that platform!!

Yeah man. I don't think people fully appreciate how out there this show was.....especially in this climate.
 

phanatic

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nigga it was 2am during a fucking blizzard in Chicago....only way you're leaving the crib is for some money or pussy.... maybe not even that when it's below 0.....but he did that for some fucking subway?

Fam...once those details came out, I knew it was horseshit. For shitty ass Subway? I remember standing at the door for 20 minutes during a snow storm thinking about going to food spot, and I sat my keys down and just raided the cabinet. I ended up baking a fucking cake because I had like six boxes of mix and I wasn't walking or driving in that shit.
 

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Fam...once those details came out, I knew it was horseshit. For shitty ass Subway? I remember standing at the door for 20 minutes during a snow storm thinking about going to food spot, and I sat my keys down and just raided the cabinet. I ended up baking a fucking cake because I had like six boxes of mix and I wasn't walking or driving in that shit.

yeah man... it's not even some shit people have cravings for.... sometimes people have cravings for White Castle or some shit.... I've never in my life heard someone say.... I just have to have a Subway sandwich, right now.
 

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Fam...once those details came out, I knew it was horseshit. For shitty ass Subway? I remember standing at the door for 20 minutes during a snow storm thinking about going to food spot, and I sat my keys down and just raided the cabinet. I ended up baking a fucking cake because I had like six boxes of mix and I wasn't walking or driving in that shit.
Bruh, I was stationed out in Colorado, and one night during a snowstorm, I was craving a double Whopper. I thought about walking, because we had a BK on post, then I thought, "Fuck it! I'll just drive!". Then I actually went outside. Man, that was the best 2 bowls of Cap'n Crunch I'd had in my life that night!
 

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Bruh, I was stationed out in Colorado, and one night during a snowstorm, I was craving a double Whopper. I thought about walking, because we had a BK on post, then I thought, "Fuck it! I'll just drive!". Then I actually went outside. Man, that was the best 2 bowls of Cap'n Crunch I'd had in my life that night!
:lol::lol::lol:
 

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I loved the special. I thought the beginning about sexual assault victims and celebrities was hilarious and edgy. The trans stuff-- some of it was funny but I wouldn't call "what if it was race instead of gender" with Chinese impressions brilliant. Kind of dumb actually but he's going to be a hero to the Joe Rogan crowd. Just because it's against the grain doesn't make it right or smart.

He's definitely the funniest guy out there. I don't think anybody else makes me laugh even nearly as much or as hard.

The development of this hard rule against "punching down" is interesting and weird.

Le Batard on Chappelle's choice of targets and "punching down," 17:10-19:03

 

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Le Batard on Chappelle's choice of targets and "punching down," 17:10-19:03


Dave isn't "punching down." He's not shittin' on a Class or caste of peasants or minions or anything, fuck is HE talm bout?
He knows his audience and is addressing LATERAL social issues in his humor. He's amassed wealth and doesn't shy away from making mention of it in any way, but he knows damn well that his audience is working and middle class people. This dude makes it sound like he's Dennis Miller or some anal retentive, smug ass Comedian. Such is not the case at all.

With the clout and persuasion of the LGBTQ+, does this dude think that they are some helpless entity or something? That's laughable.
 

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he is, man.

even that whole jussie smollett shit... lots of non-black people probably really don't get his joke/commentary like we do.... but that's how that shit unfolded on bgol.... gays crying on twitter and shit about us not having Jussie's back because he's gay but it had nothing to do with that....it was because we immediately knew he was lying.... not for the reasons that the MAGA people were assuming... we just knew the fucking context didn't make any sense... just like Dave said...

That reminded me on the first SNL after the election, where it opened with a Chappelle and Chris Rock sketch based on the premise that white people were shocked that Trump could possibly win while black people responded "Of course, what are you talking about?"

I was not following reactions to Smollett so I can't really say one way or another, but that too-cool-for-school retconning was straight bullshit, as we know the vast majority of black people were as surprised by the election results as whites.

 
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Dave isn't "punching down." He's not shittin' on a Class or caste of peasants or minions or anything, fuck is HE talm bout?
He knows his audience and is addressing LATERAL social issues in his humor. He's amassed wealth and doesn't shy away from making mention of it in any way, but he knows damn well that his audience is working and middle class people. This dude makes it sound like he's Dennis Miller or some anal retentive, smug ass Comedian. Such is not the case at all.

With the clout and persuasion of the LGBTQ+, does this dude think that they are some helpless entity or something? That's laughable.

"With the clout and persuasion of the LGBTQ+, does this dude think that they are some helpless entity or something?"

The bullying and suicide rates among LGBT youth is a serious issue... It is a mistake to think that "the gay mafia" or gay influence in Hollywood makes all gay people Illuminati.

I'm not saying that community can't be joked about but you're misunderstanding a lot if you think targeting gay people is punching up like targeting Wall Street execs.
 

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Dave isn't "punching down." He's not shittin' on a Class or caste of peasants or minions or anything, fuck is HE talm bout?
He knows his audience and is addressing LATERAL social issues in his humor. He's amassed wealth and doesn't shy away from making mention of it in any way, but he knows damn well that his audience is working and middle class people. This dude makes it sound like he's Dennis Miller or some anal retentive, smug ass Comedian. Such is not the case at all.

With the clout and persuasion of the LGBTQ+, does this dude think that they are some helpless entity or something? That's laughable.
here's my take on daves subject matter and how he talks about... dave was being purposefully provocative and literally telegraphed it and people STILL freaked out..thats just ridiculous...BUT that sword cuts both ways...

Everyone here laffs at the faux outrage BUT if a nonblack comedian starts talking about ADOS (the 4th or 5th name we're on after negro, colored, afro american, and african american) reparations and some of the contradictions and hypocrisies black people exhibit in some of our arguments and issues in american society....do you think cats here would laff it off or would there would 10 page long outrage thread? mind you like Chappelle, that nonblack comedian is just purposefully being provocative for the sake of free speech and a comedians right to ride the edge in the name of stand up comedy??

What do YOU think would happen?

I'll give you an example of a great comedian making a socio-political joke and regretting it later

Chris Rock and the Blacks vs Niggas bit.

This controversial routine on HBO's "Bring The Pain," made Rock a star back in 1996: "There's, like, a civil war going on with black people, and there's two sides. There's black people, and there's n------. And n------ have to go."

Why does he think it got so much attention?

"I think a lot of people were thinking in those terms and hadn't been able to say it. By the way, I've never done that joke again, ever, and I probably never will," says Rock. "'Cause some people that were racist thought they had license to say n-----. So, I'm done with that routine."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rock-bring-on-oscar-safety-net/
 
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"With the clout and persuasion of the LGBTQ+, does this dude think that they are some helpless entity or something?"

The bullying and suicide rates among LGBT youth is a serious issue... It is a mistake to think that "the gay mafia" or gay influence in Hollywood makes all gay people Illuminati.

I'm not saying that community can't be joked about but you're misunderstanding a lot if you think targeting gay people is punching up like targeting Wall Street execs.
Laterally. There is no part of his audience demo that don't also have Gays, Lesbians, or otherwise.
If he's not punching UP at Wall Street, then he's also NOT targeting the Queer in the 1%.
 

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Nah. This is not even Dave's funniest Netflix

Recency bias like a motherfucker in this thread. It's not bad, but best standup ever? C'mon, fam.

There's definitely a "prisoner of the moment" theme in the analysis here.

I'd have to watch all the Netflix specials to rank them-- They blend together in my mind.

I definitely like Killin' 'Em Softly over his pre-Netflix material and think all the Netflix stuff is competitive with that.
 

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Laterally. There is no part of his audience demo that don't also have Gays, Lesbians, or otherwise.
If he's not punching UP at Wall Street, then he's also NOT targeting the Queer in the 1%.


Shows you how soft this generation is. Dave Chapelle has been joking on every group including gay people for over 20 years. Now all of a sudden his comedy show is getting a backlash? For telling jokes ?
 

Shaka54

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here's my take on daves subject matter and how he talks about... dave was being purposefully provocative and literally telegraphed it and people STILL freaked out..thats just ridiculous...BUT that sword cuts both ways...

Everyone here laffs at the faux outrage BUT if a nonblack comedian starts talking about ADOS (the 4th or 5th name we're on after negro, colored, afro american, and african american) reparations and some of the contradictions and hypocrisies black people exhibit in some of our arguments and issues in american society....do you think cats here would laff it off or would there would 10 page long outrage thread? mind you like Chappelle, that nonblack comedian is just purposefully being provocative for the sake of free speech and a comedians right to ride the edge in the name of stand up comedy??

What do YOU think would happen?
There probably WOULD be outrage, it depends on the delivery and the context. I think you should've said non-white comedian. Why limit it to ADOS? The same reactions would probably be garnered regardless of what Black people within the Diaspora.

Here is the difference though. A Group/Ethnicity of people is separate from their sexuality. Dave made jokes about Queers. Within that community are Whites, Blacks, Asians, Latinos, and everything else. Only once did he specify "White, Gay, Men" in performing this act.
 

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"With the clout and persuasion of the LGBTQ+, does this dude think that they are some helpless entity or something?"

The bullying and suicide rates among LGBT youth is a serious issue... It is a mistake to think that "the gay mafia" or gay influence in Hollywood makes all gay people Illuminati.

I'm not saying that community can't be joked about but you're misunderstanding a lot if you think targeting gay people is punching up like targeting Wall Street execs.

He really wasn’t “punching” at all. He didn’t say anything mean-spirited or ugly. He was intentionally poking fun at that group because they’ve been the most sensitive about his humor. And NOT because it’s cruel but simply because they were targeted at all.
 
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