Can you image being a struggling thousandaire while the dude you was in business with for yrs left and became a billionaire with a billionaire bitch......
Dame still bitter about the jayz situation claims jayz did him dirty
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I just read thru 4 pages and think some of you are thinking Jay got his major cake from rap. I don't think so.
The three top rappers, or highest wealth rappers made their real bread not from music but mostly clothing and their other ventures.
Jay, Poofy and Master P, made their major leap into real bread with clothing.
Correct me if I'm wrong. At one point Bad Boy was only worth like $25m. But Sean John... Sheeeit, was over half a billion.
Rocafella wasn't worth much either. It was Rocawear being everywhere with distribution that took him over the top. Dame thought it wasn't worth big money and sold off his part of it. Didn't think it made any bizness sense and it made Jay who he is today as in wealth. Catapulted his success so he could mess with bigger things.
Master P, somewhat similar. Was branding every and any damn thing. Music made him money but not hundreds of millions. It was his many other ventures. Along with producing flicks and the likes.
The three top rappers, or highest wealth rappers made their real bread not from music but mostly clothing and their other ventures.
Jay, Poofy and Master P, made their major leap into real bread with clothing.
Correct me if I'm wrong. At one point Bad Boy was only worth like $25m. But Sean John... Sheeeit, was over half a billion.
Rocafella wasn't worth much either. It was Rocawear being everywhere with distribution that took him over the top. Dame thought it wasn't worth big money and sold off his part of it. Didn't think it made any bizness sense and it made Jay who he is today as in wealth. Catapulted his success so he could mess with bigger things.
Master P, somewhat similar. Was branding every and any damn thing. Music made him money but not hundreds of millions. It was his many other ventures. Along with producing flicks and the likes.
He also tells people oversimplified shit like "just flip", and talks about integrity and morals, as if he wasn't a drug dealer. That's how he got his money to "just flip". The path he took, most of the guys are in jail or dead. So he's LUCKY he lived through that part.
And you're right, is ok to fail on many businesses. I wouldn't judge him on that, except for the fact that HE JUDGES other people. That bullshit talk he gave on the breakfast club back in the day, that still has people talking , was him judging all of them for not owning the station. Meanwhile, he don't own the platform his bullshit tv network is on. It's a glorified YouTube channel, with even less viewers.
I don't know if any of that is true , but I do know that none of that would've been possible without rap first.
Isn't it funny how when talking about the music industry , everyone always says the artists get fucked and other people in the industry got more off their work than them, and now that the artist IS the businessman, getting the Lions share of his work, we got people in this thread , cheerleading for the guy they swear did all the "real work"? Lol kinda unrelated to your post, just a thought
So let me.get this straight.
Sound like this movie.. Dame and Gotti breakdown 1mil of BET money. BET would’ve still got their 40min episode. Plus he would’ve put out another movie in the process. Thanks for the time stamp can’t listen to this coke head Gotti. Even Nore said we got cocaine or whatever you like.
If I come.to you with budget to make a movie commissioned by BET-- just enough money to make a quality product, plus it's split between me and you--/ you're gonna attempt to make your own film with the budget? For your own shit?
Have you seen Dames recently released movies ? They're trash.
Have you seen Gottis tales series? Those episodes take that whole budget because they're GOOD. Not like them home movies Dame is making.
A million is not that much when it come to producing a film, especially split between two people.
Dame still thinks like a corner store Hustler.
cam took a bunch of nigs you more likely you would of never heard of and made them into millionaires... Jim jones, juelz, duke the god, even freaky made a lil money... Juelz could of been bigger but every1 said he was lazy as Shi t plus he had drug problems... Jim literally rode the coattails as a hype man than learn the industry being around cam.. If cam ain't around you think Jim is allowed in the game he'll no... Duke made a lot of bread off those stop snitching t-shirts and mixtapes... Freaky became the hype man eventually... After variety of subset groups came out purple city Byrd gang, 730 dip, even joe made money off them dipsexx porn dvds... Peep game all these entities made money off of cam back... So how wouldn't he be a great ceo if under his authority all these things came out... Even vado got more burn dealing with cam than anybody else... Certain people wanted to be bigger and was feeling themselves and try to part ways (jim)
Yes rap got them the seed money. But doubt any broke their first hundred million without other things, mostly clothes.
I think the highest paid rapper, off rap alone may be Eminem.
And as far as rap labels, the real money is made at distribution, as in all things dealing with music, and back then dvd's and the likes. Today, fast forward, streaming.
People do it all the time, you sound surprise. NBA may start point shaving.( Tim Donaghy) Boxers take a dive on purpose. On the corner at a dice game may get robbed from a inside source. Lawyers steal from people all the time. Lawyers are scheming from their clients all the time. Negotiating with the other Lawyers while talking money.
If tales which is a great show. Why Irv need to reach out to Dame Dash? What he need Dame for in the first place? Dame seen a win win opportunity.
A those points do is show exames of how he "makes other people rich", which you NOW agree with.
How do you think he "makes other people rich"?
You think livenation gave him advances in something they wouldn't profit from? Of course not. They get rich off of promoting acts that out asses in seats. He's one of em.
So you admit it's stealing. Ok.
r i f- you keep arguing against points I never posted...
I never disagreed with the fact that Jay has made others rich - one of your examples (the quote) was erroneous
Jay doesn't work with promoters nor venues and can't push opportunities for others in that way
U can't say Dame didn't want everybody
to be a boss when Joe Budden, Nore, Peedi, O. Sparks, etc all spoke about Dame trying to do exactly that in their past now they disagreed with some of his tactics but when they got older and rethought it they all realized it was necessary at that moment.
This another subject but If u go listen back to ppl like Kevin Hart n Kanye they all say it was Dame not Jay who believed in their talents
Problem is ppl think u have to choose sides we could all say Jay did sum grimy shit yet say he's an easier person to deal with than Dame
It's kinda like u liking the person that smiles in ya face then don't accept your phones calls after oppose to the person who let's u know off the rip he don't like ya work come back when u improve ya shit
All that means is you jumped in something that didn't have to do with you. That's your own fault.
You brought up what livenation does. I don't give a shit what they do. when I said the money Jay makes for promoters and venues, all I meant was his shows sell tickets. And whatever deal he has with livenation provides that for other people as well. That company, that HE formed, is called Roc nation. If they could go get these artists and athletes without him, I'm sure they would. If it wasn't profitable for them, I'm are they would drop his company. I didn't mean that he personally is sitting on the phone calling every venue.
And ultimately , that makes people on both sides of him RICH , if they take advantage of the opportunity.
and every time he makes news it's for an arrest over some child support shit or talking about Jay-Z
You must of missed the part where Dame. Gave his child mother a business that brought in 6 mil. Where she owns and cut checks, one for herself and one for child support.
She was suppose to pay the child support. She for some reason didn’t write a check for child support. Which cause him to default. But paid a lawyer 900k instead. Basically gave this chick a football team for free. With one stipulation take care of the child support.
IF what Dame is saying about that is true - he chose very poorly on the chick (Roy) he seeded up and later started a business with
This was stupid on his part.
Lol you believe this shit.
I wonder why none of his babys mom's can stand him. I mean damn, the way he describes it, they're living their best co parenting life. He just told one of em "lemme get you a house" just cuz he ain't like where she was living. What a great, loving father. The nerve of these hoes lmaooooo
As soon as people start all that explaining shit, you shoulda known it was bullshit homey.
On top of the fact that he's lying anyway. His stans believe that dumb shit.
"Here, ex wife who just too custody of my kids and put a restraining order on me. Take control of my responsibility to pay you child support. Make.sure ya do it now, and remember , I could possibly go to jail if ya don't, ok?"
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight
and you believe that shit?
Doesn't Dame have about three kids? He doesn't know how child support works?
Doesn't Dame have lawyers to run that by them?
I see somebody hasn't been paying attention. Bosses don't run shit by their lawyers.
nothing wrong with honest constructive criticism.. but discovering and coaching talent is different from running a business..
prove it
I don't have too... anyone that has recruited interviewed hired and managed employees would already know
same way that you should be aware of today's math in the other thread
LOL
so a ceo should be a recruiter/interviewer/ and manager...
good lawd....
ok youre talkin mom and pop type bossin up.... I get it
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