Dame still bitter about the jayz situation claims jayz did him dirty

[HeathCliff]

I would be guessing, Bee High, Biggs, Emory, TyTy.....

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and have you ever thought he had a reason?

How many people still fuck with Dame?

You bring up a good point. If Dame got "robbed", then how come we don't ever hear any shit from Kareem? He was the other third of that deal.

 

[Amajorfucup]

I would be guessing, Bee High, Biggs, Emory, TyTy.....

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and have you ever thought he had a reason?

How many people still fuck with Dame?

Im not a Dame defender.. im critical of them all when i see reason to be. But again, regardless of how Dame has destroyed relationships and offended business associates.. the fact remains Jay is not without fault or flaws. They were a business collective and Dame represented his interest and they all became uber successful as a collective. Jay blindsided both his partners when he left and has a track record of suspect behavior across the board.

 

[exiledking]

I said before Dame is extra, but all the yelling, barking and fighting in them days was for Rocafella. Jay let Dame be the hammer, while he sweet talked to stay in the good graces of the higher ups, so when Dame wasn't needed the corporations could say Jay we wanna move forward with u but Dame not so much. So Dame in fighting for his artists and label got himself exed out and Jay just cut bait.

Lol you really believe that shit about Dame, even though nobody worth a shit will fuck with him, while you also believe the second about Jay, just because people who ain't got shit say shit about him on vlogs.

I don't believe Dames a piece of shit. Ecause of what someone says. I do because He's been telling verifiable lies Out of his own mouth for years.

I don't even need either of em to be angels. One of em gets shit done , one makes excuses.

 

[exiledking]

You bring up a good point. If Dame got "robbed", then how come we don't ever hear any shit from Kareem? He was the other third of that deal.

Exactly. For every "real street dude" who dealt with Jay and don't like him anymore , there's 10 more who are cool with him. And these stories are always "MY business is.failong because of this man". How is he so important in the lives of these grown men, especially the one who tells everybody to boss up all the time?

 

[ViCiouS]

No I dont. Now ask yourself the opposite. You imagine Dame.and Biggs are a success without reasonable doubt being written ? By Jay.

irrelevant- you are arguing about J necessity - no one doubts that

at various times all 3 have said that reasonable doubt and the defjam deal doesn't happen if any member of the three was missing
J could pen a masterful best ever in 1994 - but no one would hear it w/o contributions AnR foot work and financing of his partners

Dame n Bigs could be genius but the deal that made them all rich doesn't happen w/o J

chicken nor the egg - mid 90s- these 3 did not exist w/out the other

You're the one trying to act like nobody has gotten rich from doing business with dude. Plenty have.

no in your op you made a series of erroneous claims concerning J's current dealings via promotions - I corrected you

yes J has made plenty of people rich but he aint handing out vendor contracts nor leveraging employment opportunities at venues
and at this stage of the game J can't even imagine doing live production with teams he hasn't worked with before - just way too risky

 

[World B Free]

I remember on MTV Doc stories back in the day, they were doing a show on Dame in London. On one segment he talked about never wearing the same t-shirt twice, he wears it once and then gets rid of it. All I thought was "this dude is going to have money problems thinking like that."

 

[O.J PIMPSON]

Lol you really believe that shit about Dame, even though nobody worth a shit will fuck with him, while you also believe the second about Jay, just because people who ain't got shit say shit about him on vlogs.

I don't believe Dames a piece of shit. Ecause of what someone says. I do because He's been telling verifiable lies Out of his own mouth for years.

I don't even need either of em to be angels. One of em gets shit done , one makes excuses.

So you feel Rocafella was successful just because Jay could rap good?

 

[exiledking]

So you feel Rocafella was successful just because Jay could rap good?

Not JUST, But primarily. Jay Z and his rhyme skills are THE PRODUCT. You got nothing to sell, you got nothin. His talent was the thing everything else was built upon.

Now , let's say Dames talent played an equal part. That means he should be able to take that talent and have made his own shit work as well.

Jay, is still rhyming, and still putting out hits , even as a 50 year old. That's unheard of. His business skills have him owning one of the major streaming services, a talent agency, a sports agency, and several other businesses. Of course he delegates to other people to do this, but even that requires discerning skills, and those people seem to be doing the job tbag Dame did, just as good , if not better.

Dame, on the other hand, has not succeeded in ANYTHING, Even walking away with the capital he earned at the roc, and the experience people know he must have. His reputation couldn't have been all bad with EVERYBODY, unless...

But we know it isn't all bad, because the Greek billionaire Alki Davis gave him a shot with that shitty "channel" he ain't to have. Yes, even though he tells everyone he owns shit, he doesn't own the platform that his "channel" is on. And even that's a flop.


Name me.ONE successful venture Dame has had in 20 years. Rememember he was saying he had oil fields? No more. Art galleries? Where? What does he sell? Movies? I saw em. They were on Vimeo, and now on Filmon.

 

[mcguyver]

I said before Dame is extra, but all the yelling, barking and fighting in them days was for Rocafella. Jay let Dame be the hammer, while he sweet talked to stay in the good graces of the higher ups, so when Dame wasn't needed the corporations could say Jay we wanna move forward with u but Dame not so much. So Dame in fighting for his artists and label got himself exed out and Jay just cut bait.

Or Dame is a fucking loose canon and Jay stayed in the background trying to not get hit by Dame's shrapnel. Dame is the type of dude you can't take nowhere cause he gonna say some dumbshit that'll have folk hating you just cause you with him.

 

[O.J PIMPSON]

Not JUST, But primarily. Jay Z and his rhyme skills are THE PRODUCT. You got nothing to sell, you got nothin. His talent was the thing everything else was built upon.

Now , let's say Dames talent played an equal part. That means he should be able to take that talent and have made his own shit work as well.

Jay, is still rhyming, and still putting out hits , even as a 50 year old. That's unheard of. His business skills have him owning one of the major streaming services, a talent agency, a sports agency, and several other businesses. Of course he delegates to other people to do this, but even that requires discerning skills, and those people seem to be doing the job tbag Dame did, just as good , if not better.

Dame, on the other hand, has not succeeded in ANYTHING, Even walking away with the capital he earned at the roc, and the experience people know he must have. His reputation couldn't have been all bad with EVERYBODY, unless...

But we know it isn't all bad, because the Greek billionaire Alki Davis gave him a shot with that shitty "channel" he ain't to have. Yes, even though he tells everyone he owns shit, he doesn't own the platform that his "channel" is on. And even that's a flop.


Name me.ONE successful venture Dame has had in 20 years. Rememember he was saying he had oil fields? No more. Art galleries? Where? What does he sell? Movies? I saw em. They were on Vimeo, and now on Filmon.

But you can say Jay was able to keep the relationships Dame was sacrificing to keep Rocafella where they needed to be. Dame was the eye for talent not Jay, which is why Jay hasn't broke a new rap artist. Hell his Def Jam tenure was horrible. To me Jay learns what he can from you then discards you. Jay isn't squeaky clean in this shit. I'm not absolving Dame, he's his own worst enemy. He can't show humility in his chase to be this "boss" he wants so badly.

 

[O.J PIMPSON]

Or Dame is a fucking loose canon and Jay sayed in the background trying to not get hit by Dame's shrapnel. Dame is the type of dude you can't take nowhere cause he gonna say some dumbshit that'll have folk hating you just cause you with him.

It can be said Dame stabs you in the front, but a lot say Jay stabs you in the back

 

[Lexx Diamond]

Seems like Jigga Man just preferred to do business without Dame. I can see how they would have outgrown one another. Dame will always seem like the bitter one even if he's making a valid point. Just off their comparative fame and wealth Jigga won. Dame is better off than many others financially so he's alright.

 

[ViCiouS]

Not JUST, But primarily. Jay Z and his rhyme skills are THE PRODUCT. You got nothing to sell, you got nothin. His talent was the thing everything else was built upon.

real talk -
the talent is a feature - its never the rock the business is built on - J wasn't moving units until album 3 - but he was making money because of good business strategy

James Brown MJ & Prince weren't great because of their talent but instead it was consistency business and performance

more important than talent is the character integrity work ethic of the artist - essential - what are prime goals of the artist?
fame or evolving their art or both?

also does the artist have a problem compromising or "sell out" artistic principle to advance commercially?
and even if all of that going good- label politics will still shelf a good artist

using your logic: why not DMX why not Pharoahe Monch - why not Rakim -why not Jadakiss or Redman? etc
Why Drake over JCole?
flip side: Why was JaRule able to out sell J for a period of time until the Feds came knocking?

most artists can't see next week never mind 5 year plans
they are never on the same page or creative timetables of the management team nor label

but rockafella was 3 men on the same page with similar timetables and visions of success... and for a time they found ways to bypass roadblocks or avoid depending on label execs and internal politics to get budgets

W/o Dame n Biggs - J becomes Redman IF a label allows him time to evolve to the ability to release Hard Knock Life - if not he is Brooklyn's Keith Murray

 

[brando154110]

Start around the 1:17:40 mark

 

[bigman23]

Dame brings bad energy he is a boss of business that not really profitable now he had not had any major success outside of the rocafella umbrella

 

[PDQ21]

My whole thing is when Dame asked about it in certain interviews when he chooses not to answer it or say why don't yall ask Jay then he gets killed for being bitter but when he answers it truthfully he gets killed for it so he can't win

I believe he has issues and his ego is fuckin up his businesses but it's weird when u hear ppl call him broke or whatever when they working 9-5s. And he jumping in and outta Jets n luxury cars.

 

[trappstarr82]

real talk -
the talent is a feature - its never the rock the business is built on - J wasn't moving units until album 3 - but he was making money because of good business strategy

James Brown MJ & Prince weren't great because of their talent but instead it was consistency business and performance

more important than talent is the character integrity work ethic of the artist - essential - what are prime goals of the artist?
fame or evolving their art or both?

also does the artist have a problem compromising or "sell out" artistic principle to advance commercially?
and even if all of that going good- label politics will still shelf a good artist

using your logic: why not DMX why not Pharoahe Monch - why not Rakim -why not Jadakiss or Redman? etc
Why Drake over JCole?
flip side: Why was JaRule able to out sell J for a period of time until the Feds came knocking?

most artists can't see next week never mind 5 year plans
they are never on the same page or creative timetables of the management team nor label

but rockafella was 3 men on the same page with similar timetables and visions of success... and for a time they found ways to bypass roadblocks or avoid depending on label execs and internal politics to get budgets

W/o Dame n Biggs - J becomes Redman IF a label allows him time to evolve to the ability to release Hard Knock Life - if not he is Brooklyn's Keith Murray

Ok so how is Jay STILL successful without Dame then? Why is Dame NOT successful without Jay?

At some point you have to step outside of your hate for Jay and face facts.

If talent is not the the rock the business is built on, then Dame would have been able to duplicate it with his "good business strategy".

Bottom line is Jay was able to replace Dame EASILY 10 times over. Dame still hasn't found a way to replace HOV and its killing him... and you.

 

[KunningLinguist]

Dames a clown but he has legitimate grievances with Jay. And as much as a asshole we see Dame to be, its safe to say Jay is as big a snake.

Nah actually it's not safe to say that at all

 

[HeathCliff]

Bottom line is Jay was able to replace Dame EASILY 10 times over. Dame still hasn't found a way to replace HOV and its killing him... and you.

Yo that shit is hilarious

 

[ViCiouS]

Ok so how is Jay STILL successful without Dame then? Why is Dame NOT successful without Jay?

At some point you have to step outside of your hate for Jay and face facts.

If talent is not the the rock the business is built on, then Dame would have been able to duplicate it with his "good business strategy".

Bottom line is Jay was able to replace Dame EASILY 10 times over. Dame still hasn't found a way to replace HOV and its killing him... and you.

you did not comprehend my previous post....

back in 95 all 3 had to make it in the door or none would make it - but that was then not 6 years later when rocafella fell apart

talent loses when it doesn't work hard - there are more talented rappers than J but almost none are as smart as J
nor as consistent

if talent was everything then Dame could grab any talented guy or girl - but like I posted above
personal character consistency and performance are more essential than talent
its why Rihanna is a star now and Chrisette Michele is not

its why Beyonce is a household name and people struggle to remember there was a girl named Farrah in Destiny's Child - once upon a time



Jadakiss is great rapper but he doesn't keep appointments misses daytime rehearsals and studio sessions etc etc - Jay on the other hand is early for appointments and doesn't flake on sessions no matter the time
guess who was getting those calls for redefining opportunities? it wasn't Kiss

After Rocafella what Jay did with his access was hustle
Dame instead burned his bridges and lost access - Jay never did that

success attracts... so execs that would never do business with Hawaiian Sophie JayZ
or brands that can't associate with Big Pimpin Jay Z
have open doors and red carpets for Hov Pres of Defjam, fiance to Beyonce and later founder of RocNation

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Dames a clown but he has legitimate grievances with Jay. And as much as a asshole we see Dame to be, its safe to say Jay is as big a snake.

"When I flip Rocawear I told'em give me money cash/Yeaaaah checks might bounce, alphabet boys might check my accounts/Still hustlin baby! Hurry up kill me/I'm already the GOAT, next stop is the billy”

 

[tallblacknyc]

Ok so how is Jay STILL successful without Dame then? Why is Dame NOT successful without Jay?

At some point you have to step outside of your hate for Jay and face facts.

If talent is not the the rock the business is built on, then Dame would have been able to duplicate it with his "good business strategy".

Bottom line is Jay was able to replace Dame EASILY 10 times over. Dame still hasn't found a way to replace HOV and its killing him... and you.

Jay was the hoe with amazing skill set but didn't know how to promote herself right to get clientele... Dame was the pimp that saw how marketable the hoe was and knew how to promote her to get a huge customer base... Once the hoe saw how marketable she was and how many tricks was willing to pay for her skill set she got big headed and left... The pimp never got a marketable bitch like that ever again... That is the jay/dame story in a nutshell

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Seems like Jigga Man just preferred to do business without Dame. I can see how they would have outgrown one another. Dame will always seem like the bitter one even if he's making a valid point. Just off their comparative fame and wealth Jigga won. Dame is better off than many others financially so he's alright.

Dame is fuckin delusional...

And a wannabe boss

Some folks are natural CEO..types and command respect...ahem not bragging but I have those genetics..

He doesnt which is why he is always yelling and tryin to bully people into believing something he is not..

Any real leader/boss/
CEO knows

You are only good as the people around you..

A real boss knows who his top performers are....

The proper way to acknowledge and compensate..

And who the weak links are..and regulate..

Asshole talking about making everyone a boss...

In the world of business that is about the most fuckin dumbest shit you can utter...

And he is full of shit... He wanted to be the only boss..

Fuck he think he fooling..

He is a great case study to learn how NOT to be a boss..

 

[HeathCliff]

Start around the 1:17:40 mark

Thanks for the marker. I been had this video on my waiting list but I didn't want to sit through this whole interview listening to this dude ramble on.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Dame is fuckin delusional...

And a wannabe boss

Some folks are natural CEO..types and command respect...ahem not bragging but I have those genetics..

He doesnt which is why he is always yelling and tryin to bully people into believing something he is not..

Any real leader/boss/
CEO knows

You are only good as the people around you..

A real boss knows who his top performers are....

The proper way to acknowledge and compensate..

And who the weak links are..and regulate..

Asshole talking about making everyone a boss...

In the world of business that is about the most fuckin dumbest shit you can utter...

And he is full of shit... He wanted to be the only boss..

Fuck he think he fooling..

He is a great case study to learn how NOT to be a boss..

I'm pretty sure a lot of people would have wanted to not be a boss and create a 8-9 fig company like the not so boss dame you speak... If you understand what he meant by making everyone leaders it's being in a room full of talented people and making them their own entity and it becoming very profitable... If 10 individuals with diff skill sets with the capability of making millions were given the encouragement to do so it is possible that they can all be bosses.. JUss need the motivation and blueprint to do so... In his words he was attempting to do that which is why dipset and state property were given there own platform to progress... If you think about it they had multiple entities under the same umbrella

 

[GOD MATERIAL]

I remember on MTV Doc stories back in the day, they were doing a show on Dame in London. On one segment he talked about never wearing the same t-shirt twice, he wears it once and then gets rid of it. All I thought was "this dude is going to have money problems thinking like that."

I LIKE DAME (I THINK HE HAS SOME MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, THOUGH) BUT I REMEMBER AN INTERVIEW WHERE DAME SAID FILING LAWSUITS WERE CORNY. IF YOU ARE A REAL BUSINESS MAN YOU KNOW LAWSUITS ARE A PART OF THE GAME.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

I'm pretty sure a lot of people would have wanted to not be a boss and create a 8-9 fig company like the not so boss dame you speak... If you understand what he meant by making everyone leaders it's being in a room full of talented people and making them their own entity and it becoming very profitable... If 10 individuals with diff skill sets with the capability of making millions were given the encouragement to do so it is possible that they can all be bosses.. JUss need the motivation and blueprint to do so... In his words he was attempting to do that which is why dipset and state property were given there own platform to progress... If you think about it they had multiple entities under the same umbrella

Maybe in Narnia...

But in the real world you planning to fail running a business with multiple bosses...

Now if dame wouldve said..

Its my goal to groom everyone

so they can venture on their own and be their own boss..

But that bullshit dame was talkin about.. Is just him trying to justify being an asshole..

And anybody that knows him

Knows he is talkin out his ass..

He is a spoiled brat attention whore..

Who cant even control his emotions at this stage of his life..

What keeps him in the game tho..

Is he is savvy..in the streets

And can run a damn good bando

Now his type of bossmanship

Works great in the streets...

.hed make an excellent bando CEO

 

[shaddyvillethug]

That nigga Dame paid for all that shit.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Maybe in Narnia...

But in the real world you planning to fail running a business with multiple bosses...

Now if dame wouldve said..

Its my goal to groom everyone

so they can venture on their own and be their own boss..

But that bullshit dame was talkin about.. Is just him trying to justify being an asshole..

And anybody that knows him

Knows he is talkin out his ass..

He is a spoiled brat attention whore..

Who cant even control his emotions at this stage if his life..

What keeps him in the game tho..

Is he is savvy..in the streets

And can run a damn good bando

Now his type of bossmanship

Works great in the streets...

.hed make an excellent bando CEO

not Narnia real life... You can have a bunch of companies under the same umbrella... Each company could be different or similar... Each company could have its own boss... It's kinda like if you were an investor and you knew 10 chefs that wanted to own their own restaurant you could put the money up for each person and collect percentages for being the investor and umbrella... Each individual runs their own restaurant ... 10 chefs, 10 different resturants, 10 diff bosses, with 1 main person as the funder.. This is how you can have a bunch off bosses... State property, dipset was kinda like them individual resturants and rocafella was the main funder

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

not Narnia real life... You can have a bunch of companies under the same umbrella... Each company could be different or similar... Each company could have its own boss... It's kinda like if you were an investor and you knew 10 chefs that wanted to own their own restaurant you could put the money up for each person and collect percentages for being the investor and umbrella... Each individual runs their own restaurant ... 10 chefs, 10 different resturants, 10 diff bosses, with 1 main person as the funder.. This is how you can have a bunch off bosses... State property, dipset was kinda like them individual resturants and rocafella was the main funder

That would be nice in a different world..


But everyone is not cut out to be a boss..

For example Cameron he is a great spokesperson..

Extremely street wise..

But no way in he'll is he CEO material...

And definitely not someone you would place at the CEO position in a subsidiary..hed run that shit to the ground..

Now in the streets they can boss up all they want to..

Their style would make them big targets..and their run

On top would be shorter than trumps fingers..

But it will work..

In a boardroom..aint no fuckin way in he'll..

Anybody worth a damn would NOT put up with being talked to and treated like a bitch...

And dame still aint learn his lesson..

He has a great reality tv personality
But too arrogant to pimp it for profit

 

[exiledking]

irrelevant- you are arguing about J necessity - no one doubts that

at various times all 3 have said that reasonable doubt and the defjam deal doesn't happen if any member of the three was missing
J could pen a masterful best ever in 1994 - but no one would hear it w/o contributions AnR foot work and financing of his partners

Dame n Bigs could be genius but the deal that made them all rich doesn't happen w/o J

chicken nor the egg - mid 90s- these 3 did not exist w/out the other
no in your op you made a series of erroneous claims concerning J's current dealings via promotions - I corrected you

yes J has made plenty of people rich but he aint handing out vendor contracts nor leveraging employment opportunities at venues
and at this stage of the game J can't even imagine doing live production with teams he hasn't worked with before - just way too risky

You didn't correct anyone but yourself when you just said am this post

"Yes J has made plenty of people rich"


Cuz that's all I ever said in the first place.

 

[exiledking]

Start around the 1:17:40 mark

Explains EVERYTHING

 

[Mafamaticks]

I'm pretty sure a lot of people would have wanted to not be a boss and create a 8-9 fig company like the not so boss dame you speak... If you understand what he meant by making everyone leaders it's being in a room full of talented people and making them their own entity and it becoming very profitable... If 10 individuals with diff skill sets with the capability of making millions were given the encouragement to do so it is possible that they can all be bosses.. JUss need the motivation and blueprint to do so... In his words he was attempting to do that which is why dipset and state property were given there own platform to progress... If you think about it they had multiple entities under the same umbrella

See Dame relies on dudes like y’all to try and clean up the bullshit he saying. Every time he runs his mouth somebody always shows up and is like “Well what he’s tryna say is...”

Fact of the matter is being an entrepreneur is difficult. Most businesses don’t even make it past their first year. And that’s including people who go to school for it. You don’t hear Dame say that though. You hear about Rocafella, but you won’t hear about anything else. What about businesses that failed before Rocafella?

The dumbest shit I heard him say was “Saving money is for suckas.” Somebody like you will come and say “What he was tryna say is...” but for James, who won’t hear what you’re going to say will burn up all their savings for something unsuccessful in the pursuit of being a “boss.” So when somebody who works a 9-5 asks James "why you don’t have any money saved up", James will ask him, “Are you gonna call another grown man Daddy?”

Dame doesn’t have the blueprint. In the real world we all don’t hit a lick on the first attempt. He’s figuring it out as he goes. You see him failing now and there’s nothing wrong with that. That’s part of being an entrepreneur. Dame is probably at a spot where most business owners would love to be in. But Dame isn’t where he thinks he SHOULD be. And instead of being honest about the hardships of entrepreneurship, he blames it on culture vultures, being a boss and what a boss does, or and how you shouldn’t answer to anybody.

Come to think of it, I’ve heard him say boss one million times but never heard him say entrepreneur. Bosses have a boss. Entrepreneurs don’t.

 

[ANGRY MAN]

Start around the 1:17:40 mark

Sound like this movie.. Dame and Gotti breakdown 1mil of BET money. BET would’ve still got their 40min episode. Plus he would’ve put out another movie in the process. Thanks for the time stamp can’t listen to this coke head Gotti. Even Nore said we got cocaine or whatever you like.

 

[Backshot Bully]

Sound like this movie.. Dame and Gotti breakdown 1mil of BET money. BET would’ve still got their 40min episode. Plus he would’ve put out another movie in the process. Thanks for the time stamp can’t listen to this coke head Gotti. Even Nore said we got cocaine or whatever you like.

yeah dude is high and rambling