First, if you are arguing the validity of the bible, you may not bring scriptures inside the bible, but facts surrounding the validity of events.
You need an archeologist, if you want to dig in the dirt for dead fossils. I am not. don't tell me I can't talk about the bible when talking about bible.
second, this is evident in leading Jesuit and Theologian universities and colleges, not the nickle and dime internet. The library alone is self evident in Norte Dame as well as Fordham University.
Jesuits!!
Very shadey character. Aren't they part of the Masons? The order of Jesuit Knights? I just to go to a Jesuit school as a freshmen. 
Thirdly to cut argument short on Commandments to follow and what was given in the bible, you go to Matthew 5:18 which tells you automatically that the former rules given by his Father are not to be disobeyed, forgotten, tampered, or evaded. hence the wording not a letter, not a dot would disappear from God's law with his teachings. Hence, don't forget the Commandments of 10.
Absolutely, if you obey the first commandment of Jesus you will obey the 10.
Lastly, don't take any of these personally as an attack on your person, I don't know your history and everyone made their choices in their pursuit to this very moment, your actions, present and former is your history, more on that part later.
I don't take any of this personally, that why I don't get made at you guys and I still call you brother and never curse at you guys. How can I get mad at you guys for not knowing what you talking about? I would rather just show you the info and help you understand
To let you know, I have studied for a combination of 15 years, under the guide of Roman Catholic, Southern Baptist, Seventh Day Adventist, and non-denomination in order to seek before choosing to study in Fordham... and you know what I found out from the 30 odd preachers, ministers, bishops, professors, and deans? that the King James Version among all other versions is the most contradictory in terms and incomplete in both. With the old testament taking only the few books from the Torah and NT reduced to the flimsy reading today in order to support Jesus of Nazareth teachings and the whoring by the disciple which never met him but formed the church, Paul.
If you are SO astute then how could you know that good had forgiveness many, many, many (time 77 plus infinity) forgave? Not to mention Atonement sacrifices? As far as "research" as you say you don't know me, You don't know what I know. If so, then what number am I think right now? You don't where I get my understanding or what I have learn. I have Messionic Jew friends, I have Ex Devil Worshipping friends. It's assuming to think that you are only one who have had training in the "hebrew" root words. There are many Christain churches and preacher who are truly men of God and astute in that area. To assume their are not is to underestimate God. As far as Paul, again...that's your opinion again Mine is, there's enough in one verse of he bible to save you. "Jesus died for your sins
I know the words are alarming, although I was disgusted to find the book which was 'written with the spirit so may not be tarnished' or 'eloquently perfect through the words of GOD given to man', but it plainly isn't so. The book in itself as I say gives perfect example of good behavior for humanity albeit it doesn't follow its example in many parts [OT, not NT in that defense]
Where do you get this behavior CRAP from? Was anyone in the bible GOOD? Save Jesus? The bible is about "Real Men". Right now I reading what the heck happen to Elijah and why he ran from a death threat of a women after killing 451 of her prophets. Dude, you need a good teacher. One with the right spirit cause ya just don't get the obvious. Dude if you need more books than what is in the bible, if a thousand pages ain't enough then it has nothing to do with the other books.
The only thing that is pointed out is the obvious arguments. The first and foremost, which is not to be taken lightly but asked for others to do if they must pursue since the mandate is 'seek and ye shall find'. l
ook at historians at the time of the walk of the 3 year teachings of Jesus. I don't attribute Christe since it is a title and not part of his name.
The following would be common sense in the modern world as well and would of course end the argument of this.
Which Historian spoke of
-Jesus of Nazareth performing any of the superhuman acts portrayed in any of the Gospels, you may also include the apocrypha if you require of those acts as well.
Bullcrap, they walked and talk with Jesus but when the shit hit the fan they scattered like flies. It wasn't until Jesus blew His Holy Spirit on them in the upper room that they UNDERSTOOD what He had taught them was real. It's not about books dude, it's about the Living Spirit of God.
I say this plainly for 1 reason and that reason alone. If anyone truly seen
-walking on water (Only the Apostle were there read the story)
-raising from dead (Many people saw Lazarus, the girl and Jesus)
-calming the storms (Only the Apostle were there read the story)
-healing the obviously incurable (the pharisee saw this)
the historian of the empire which ruled as well as province writings would reflect so since they reported on all major events of their time. Not in any 3 of the historians these acts were written or even mentioned, nor his name written in the annals of history
other than his death, which was maintained only as record of punishment.
secondly, Pilate was punished and sent to prison to die, but his crimes were losing control of his province to riots and was punished accordingly by Rome. This goes to more than sight simply, this only states the obvious. If superman truly existed, that word would spread like wildfire to the historians since it happened in their backyard. 3 minor revolts at that time made it, the death of the sinner beside him made it, but the superman never made it?
On the contrary, There were greeks who did mention Jesus, it's not important to me but if you that Pilate did lose of control and the bible mention how and why, and that Jesus had everything to do with how he couldn't handle his trial. by your own words this gives testament that the events of that time were true. Lastly everything that has to do with Jesus, to this VERY DAY is always attempted to be squelched. Where have you been? Not until you talk about Jesus that people try to quiet you. Take him out the schools, TV, state country Marriage, everything. Dont' mention Jesus. Pharisees want to stay in power, they could never let Jesus be considered a "superman" or the son of God he could only be considered a "blasphemer, rebel and heretic". Everything about Jesus had to be covered up. The Pharisees bribed the guards to lie an say the disciples stole his body.
http://www.carm.org/apologetics/evi...s-stole-jesus-body-and-faked-his-resurrection
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Again, you skip factual content to lean on the words of a book which has been written in hindsight and chosen by a group of men not fit to choose its interpretation. The books themselves other than Paul, who never met him were not written by any of his disciples, only those who followed in the teachings of the disciples via oral history.
This in itself tells me you would take the time to find scriptures in the book to give to others in your defense which is not required, but again won't take the time to research your own religion to see where it originated from than what is written in same book which has been placed under scrutiny in the first place.
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stead of writing this, you should have gone to the Authorship section of Wikipedia. It's the same argument. Here's the short of it.
"e authorship of all non-Pauline books have been disputed in recent times. Ascriptions are largely polarized between Christian and non-Christian experts, making any sort of scholarly consensus all but impossible. Even majority views are unclear."
Christian= me
non-christian= You.
I believe it has great intergrity..You don't. Paul was very qualified having met Jesus being after being a High society Greek, and Jew, who persecuted and kill Christian, became one of the best. It's still happening today. Some devil worshipper turn to Jesus after they see what the devil can do. He saves them.
I don't mince words, or waste the time to copy and paste rhetoric which is easily thought of or at hand.
Again as an escape to this, this is also not a judgement in your faith in the book which you follow because in earnestness I don't care, as it is said, you bear your own burdens on the moment of death in 'to each his own...'.
The only thing I supplied is the facts which disprove the foundation without further seeking the New, since those within your circle are 'Christians' is that correct?
My circle of people/christian? It's a big world dude.
not a denomination but those who only follow the teachings of Christe? For you being on this board kind of negates a lot of his teachings in either book... with all of the flesh here and all. with the 2,000+ post all being in defense of upliftment of his words and all. But, battles of the flesh are a bitch and kicks a lot off the road, including those who teach it, especially those who teach it.
Actually, for excitement I like to throw myself in the midst of the enemys posse unarmed just so I can fight my way out. I like a challenge. 
But you niggas is weak. As a validity, You still haven't figure it out yet. but Is this really a battle? There's only one of me. I run you down 13 pages in 3 different threads. Baal does not fight Baal.
You may believe anything that you want to for your mind will continue to argue without seeking any truth yet rely on faith. I get that, I've been there and suffered from it as well. Suffer is a bad word to use, we will say you are convicted by your faith in his teachings.
Dude, Your faith has failed you. I'm sorry. But as you accuse me God continues to bless me, I can only witness to you. While you speak faithless words, God is moving in real ways in my life as you speak. I hope you find hope again. But while you search God reveals hidden treasure to me in dark places.
Isaiah 45:3
And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.
Plus, God is not forgiveness, God's actions are punishment. Jesus is the Loophole which you seek, for there is little to no leadway through God. Hence, the OT and need of the NT.
All I can say dude, you are not very astute in the bible or maybe just not wise, no maybe you thought yourself wise and became faithless?. You don't want me to talk about the bible because you just don't know it. In the new testament when Adam and Eve sinned. God had already revealed his plan of mercy for the new testament with Jesus. Jesus was crushed the snake but the snake bruised his heel with death. That was our New Testament, forgiveness and salvation warp into one line from God. And you thank He was made and unforgiving.
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
As it is said, sin is death in those days, for if it wasn't death, Eden would still exist on earth, the sons of Adam would be forgiven and the some odd 1,000+ pages wouldn't need to be written. Sin is never forgiven, and since it is death... you are not forgiven for them. If hell existed, you will be sent there due to it to be with the original sinner, Cain.
Incomplete but will do, I lost interest in this
. you religious zealots really don't know shit about science
