Congress To Hold Hearing On Hip-Hop
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divine said:
I didn't know you supported the Nancy Reagan, "just say no" bullshit when it comes to lyrics in music. Just turn it off and no one is affected? Fuck outta here. You think kids are stupid? You think they won't figure out whats being said in that shit just because you bleep a word?
I don't think this conversation should be in the congress but you sure think that has no impact on children. "Just say no" didn't work and "just turn it off and don't listen" doesn't work either.
And why is it anytime anybody has a point you disagree with, you got that n word flying out your mouth? You trying to be klan?
Grow up and learn what freedom of speech means. Doesn't mean you can say anything you want when ever. It also doesn't mean you teach that shit to kids which is what you are advocating.
-VG
If they go after all forms of media, including calling blacks ****** etc, on tv, as someone pointed out in the sopranos, I won't care, if this is about anti-degradation towards our race then I'm all for it.. If this solely focuses on the music, as it probably will be, then fuck em.... Also the question has to be asked, there are some rappers out there, like Nas, and a few others who's music is actually positive but could be misconstrued and lumped with fifty, the southern music, and the rest, what will happen to them... Even getting witnesses to congress, I don't feel they can actually understand, or relate to the music in the first place, who's to say if they can differentiate between "good", and "bad" music..
TO DjMorpheus
(IS STILL IS THE BEST MUSIC OUT THERE)
THAT'S MY OPINION
I LIKE P.E. ,KRS-1,FACE,ICE CUBE (90-94)
G.B. AND EPMD
EVERY NOW THEN SOMEONE DROP A NICE JEWEL
BUT YOU TELL ME
WHAT IS THE BEST MUSIC OUT THERE?
(IS STILL IS THE BEST MUSIC OUT THERE)
THAT'S MY OPINION
I LIKE P.E. ,KRS-1,FACE,ICE CUBE (90-94)
G.B. AND EPMD
EVERY NOW THEN SOMEONE DROP A NICE JEWEL
BUT YOU TELL ME
WHAT IS THE BEST MUSIC OUT THERE?
Nope, the only difference is, I don't try to shield my kid from stuff like that. I explain to him shit that I think is negative. Like you said, kids arent stupid... so why the fuck you trying to treat them like they stupid?
What you gonna ban hip hop? Nigga get real. before Hip Hop was taken mainstream it was an underground corporation anyway.. it will just go back to being that if they "try" to so-call ban explicit lyrics.
My comment about not buying or listening to the stuff you don't like is just plain COMMON SENSE. Do you buy shit you don't like?
On another note.. as far as know, don't they use words like "bitch" on TV? You gonna ban that shit too? Where does it end. Soon you gonna ban it from Cable? Satelite?
Quit looking for the gov't to be your brain... like Public Enemy said TURN OFF THE RADIO if you have a problem with it. Trust me, if noone is listening, it will go away...
What you gonna ban hip hop? Nigga get real. before Hip Hop was taken mainstream it was an underground corporation anyway.. it will just go back to being that if they "try" to so-call ban explicit lyrics.
My comment about not buying or listening to the stuff you don't like is just plain COMMON SENSE. Do you buy shit you don't like?
On another note.. as far as know, don't they use words like "bitch" on TV? You gonna ban that shit too? Where does it end. Soon you gonna ban it from Cable? Satelite?
Quit looking for the gov't to be your brain... like Public Enemy said TURN OFF THE RADIO if you have a problem with it. Trust me, if noone is listening, it will go away...
VegasGuy said:
nittie said:
get the fuck outta here with that illogical solution
Let a machine with AI make decisions for you and you deserve what you get.
"Hello BGOL"
I can't believe he just said that
Doesn't Congress have more serious national issues to deal with, or even issues within Congress such as Senators soliciting sex in bathrooms.
Rap music is made up of, for the most part, males artists communicating with male listeners. That's why the lyrics are similar to the conversation that men might have in a locker room, a poker game, or even a BGOL thread for that matter.
We talk foul about women when we are amongst ourselves because lets face it, women can frustrate and anger the hell out of us sometimes. It doesn't mean that we're particularly misogynistic, but it sometimes it's healthy to let that out. That's all these rappers are doing through their music and that's all the listeners are doing through our purchases.
Women do it too. Look at any kind of music, movie, TV program or other media made for a female audience and you'll see that they bash the shit out of us just as bad. Even in hip hop. When UTFO came out with a song about being dissed by "Roxanne Roxanne" look at how many female rappers stepped up and put a "Roxanne" in their name. Shit, even pop artists like Salt n' Peppa and Queen Latifah made entire careers out of bashing black men in their songs. Nobody said shit to them, but have a black man put his frustrations on wax and everyone sees it as a threat.
We talk foul about women when we are amongst ourselves because lets face it, women can frustrate and anger the hell out of us sometimes. It doesn't mean that we're particularly misogynistic, but it sometimes it's healthy to let that out. That's all these rappers are doing through their music and that's all the listeners are doing through our purchases.
Women do it too. Look at any kind of music, movie, TV program or other media made for a female audience and you'll see that they bash the shit out of us just as bad. Even in hip hop. When UTFO came out with a song about being dissed by "Roxanne Roxanne" look at how many female rappers stepped up and put a "Roxanne" in their name. Shit, even pop artists like Salt n' Peppa and Queen Latifah made entire careers out of bashing black men in their songs. Nobody said shit to them, but have a black man put his frustrations on wax and everyone sees it as a threat.
I think in everyone of those genres you stated there are a significant number of whites who profited tremendously by diluting the music for mainstream white culture.JD Walker said:
In hip-hop only a few whites have profited from it. Thus, Congress wants to do something about it.
Dannyblueyes said:
Agreed. When they call oprah to testify about how her movies stereotype black men, then they may have some credibility with me. Until then, it seems more like a way to attack freedom of speech using something everybody hates as an excuse – black men and their music.
Driftline said:
FEW whites have profited from (c)rap?
Last I check, the same record companies and distributers that markets (c)rap also markets jazz, R&B, rock, downtempo, and the heads of those record companies are mostly white.
You have to come better than that homey. White made/make a killing off (c)rap.
This is bullshit and I hate all you niggas who condone this fuckery.
JD Walker said:
Hold on a minute. I just caught that. Town meetings never held on Rock? Where have you been for the last 50 years. The FBI did a year long investigation into the supposed "obscenity" of the Kinsmen's "Louie Louie" back in the 1950's. Then You have the controversy behind Elvis. The White Citizen's Counsel's appeal to ban the "jungle rhythm's" of Chuck Berry and others. There was a trial to see if Ozzy Osbourne's "Suicide Solution" induced someone to kill themselves.
BTW you know those parental advisory labels you see on rap records everywhere? The catalyst for those stickers was a rock song by Prince back in the 1980's.
As for Jazz, back in the 1940's Harry Anslinger tried to do a major raid on every Jazz artist in the state of California for using marijuana. Even though most popular performers of all genres were smoking (as they are today) Anslinger made a special effort to target jazz musicians because he felt their influence was destroying white youth.
Sorry man, but you have shown profound ignorance on this thread.
Dannyblueyes said:
STFU cracka. I am fully aware of the backlash those genres got when they first came out. However they didn't face decade after decade of scrutiny. Further more these art forms didn't deteriorate in to nursery rhymes of self degradation. And none of these chicks have yet to even attempt to answer my question.
JD Walker said:
Are you OK did somebody shit in you corn flakes this morning cause you the angriest clown I've seen. Son its not that bad...................really its not.
kewlphucker said:
Nigga, I post what I want, when I want. Stay on the subject.
I want one of these bitches who own music from any of these (c)rappers to answer my question. Especially these bitches who love Tupac, who wasn't so bad after all, because he made it ok fro me to address Black women as bitches.
JD Walker said:
You sound just like one of them. With the Nigga,Bitches maybe congress should investigate your nitwit ass.
kewlphucker said:
I SWEAR THIS BITCH AZZ NIGGA STAY HATING ON SOMEBODY
Simply_Black said:
Don't these uptight whiteys ever learn?? Remember what happened in the 80's when they banned Ice-T, NWA, 2 live crew and others from having their music on general release to the public and also started to put 'warning , explicit lyrics' and 'parental advsory' labels and their records and CDs. Their underground record sales not only went 'through the roof' but nearly every little rich upper class white boy wanted to be a black gangster rapper and started to rebel against their parents. Censorship didn't work then and it work work now. In fact rap music will only benefit from the publicity and exposure that congress will give it, and if they go ahead and make explicit lyrics taboo and banned it will only boost the 'street cred' that rappers and rap music feed off to hype it up and make it more popular.
JD Walker said:
JD Walker said:
Awwwwww I Didn't know you cared.
JD Walker said:
Yes they did. Click this link to see what the government was trying to do to rock music back in the 80's (when rock was roughly the same age that rap music is now)
http://ericnuzum.com/banned/incidents/80s.html
Want to talk about self degradation. Talk about Jimmy Hendrix, Janis joplin, Jim Morrison, Brad Nowell, Kurt Cobain, and a slew of other rockers that have died of drug overdoses, the ultimate form of self degredation. How many rappers have OD'd? Aside from Keith Cowboy and Ol' Dirty Bastard I can't think of any.
Oh yeah, one more thing on the topic of degrading women, no rapper has even come close to the blatantly anti-women song "I used to love her" by Guns n' Roses.
No more smackin a BITCH or FUCK a Ho, No BITCH betta have my MONEY...
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