(Cnet) Should I buy an OLED TV now or wait for 2017 models

Amazon and Best Buy for premium TVs.

I'll hit up Target or Wal-Mart for cheaper TVs



I used to mess with Visions back in the day for older PCs. Some car stereo stuff. Back in the day A&B Sound (Western provinces) was good for most CDs, DVDs, car stereo & alarm installations. London Drugs is good in that they're honest. Have had family do dealings with them and them discuss plenty of pros and cons with their products, and discourage people from buying more expensive stuff due to sketchy quality or warranty issues. Even had them call my mom in the past when she bought some TV and Mac-related items ... only to have them go on sale for $100 - 200 cheaper weeks later. Sales person called her up and told her about the sale ... and to come back so they could refund her money, or give her a store credit. Her choice. Target was only here for a few years, then they left Canada.
 
For the 3D fans



Best Buy has select 3D Blu-ray Movies for $8.99 each when you follow the steps below. Store pickup is free if stock permits. Thanks persian_mafia

  1. Make sure you're viewing the Best Buy Mobile Site (from a computer, scroll down to the bottom of any page at BestBuy.com & click "Mobile Site")
  2. Select the 3D blu-ray movie of your choice of those listed below (via mobile site):
  3. Add your movie to cart
  4. Select shipping and click Checkout
  5. Look for "$1 OFF order" in green text in the upper right and select free store pickup
  6. Total should now be $8.99 w/ free store pickup

IMO unless they also sell inexpensive 3D glasses to go with those cheep Blu-ray movies I say Fuck'em :thefinger:
 
LG's 2016 OLED TVs Secretly Get Major New Future-Proofing Feature [Updated]



[Update: The situation regarding the firmware update discussed in this article is more complicated than first appears. For starters, an update (05.30.01) that introduces support for HLG via YouTube is available for G6 models in Europe at the time of writing, but not the US. Also, it appears that the HLG-supporting firmware update was rolled out to European E6 and C6 owners a few days ago, but is now no longer available having potentially been pulled because of unexpected side effects... Effects which appear to include damage to the TVs' HDR Game mode, as reported in this separate story. I'm seeking clarification on all of this from LG and will update this story further or post new stories depending on what they say]

LG Electronics has just started rolling out an update to some of its 2016 OLED TVs that makes them capable of playing the new ‘Hybrid Log Gamma’ (HLG) HDR format.

With HLG expected to be a key player in the burgeoning HDR broadcasting world over the coming months and years, this new firmware upgrade really does represent a substantial addition to some models (more on this later!) from LG’s much-loved 2016 OLED TV range. Which makes it all the more strange that LG doesn’t seem to want anyone to know about it…

LG always provides release notes to go with its TV firmware updates, yet the notes accompanying update 05.30.02 make absolutely no mention of HLG support. The only improvements listed are added notification pop up for when an app is no longer available; a change in the background image of the ‘no signal’ screen; and a change in the Amazon HDR mode.

LGOLED65LeftAngleDone.jpg



It’s not clear why LG has rolled out this HLG update seemingly in secret; maybe they were wanting to beta test it ‘in the wild’ before going public about it. But I have had it confirmed by a number of US-based contacts over recent days that the update does indeed introduce HLG recognition, with the screen recognizing HLG test files after the new software has been installed that it couldn’t recognize previously.

It can’t be confirmed yet if the update enables the affected LG OLED TVs to recognize HLG via their tuners, but given the broadcast focus of this particular HDR format you’ve got to imagine that it does.

It’s worth adding, too, that the new firmware update doesn’t just apply to LG’s 2016 OLED TVs. It’s also compatible with LG’s UH9500 and UH8500 LCD TVs, as well as the 75UH6550.

Before you all rush off to check out your 2016 OLED TV’s new HLG talents, though, there are a couple of limitations you need to be aware of. First, at the time of writing the update currently only applies to LG’s E6 and C6 2016 models in the US, and the G6 in Europe. I’ve asked for confirmation of if and when the same feature will be rolling out to B6 models, and will update this story when I hear anything concrete.

Presumably the update will eventually roll out for all E6, C6 and G6 models in every global territory, but even by LG's rather patchy (pun intended) firmware update standards this one is starting to look like a bit of a mess.

Second, you should note that so far as I’m aware the only HLG broadcasts available so far are on the TravelXP channel, so unless you can get that, your only way of testing the HLG compatibility out for yourself will be to find and download an HLG demo file.

It seems certain that HLG is going to become a significant part of the HDR landscape in the not so distant future, though, so it’s great to see LG adding it to its OLED TVs’ already class-leadingly long list of supported HDR formats.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnar...jor-new-future-proofing-feature/#41fd4d145bcd

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1500441850





This is why i went with the E6 over the B6

The changelog lists the C6 and E6 OLED models as applicable models, and it has later been confirmed that G6 flagship model has received a similar, although separate, update. There is no mention of the more affordable B6, which uses a non-LG system chip from Realtek. It will require a separate firmware update but the plans are unclear. When LG originally confirmed the news about the HLG update to FlatpanelsHD, they said:

- ”HLG is being implemented in 2016 OLED and Super UHD.”

FlatpanelsHD has since asked for clarification regarding the B6 model but has not received any concrete information. The changelog for the firmware update also lists the UH9500 and UH8500 LCD models from 2016 as applicable.





Rasmus Larsen Mod • 6 days ago

Here's a good demo video in HLG if you want to try:
http://4kmedia.org/lg-cymat...

4636603211ff5e6b6b8be0d4055bddc27f3b85790c8a3e50ca17fc6e799b71a5.jpg


Rasmus Larsen Mod • 6 days ago

The update also includes new screen saver pictures. That was how I noticed that my E6 had automatically installed the update the other day.

Fed with HLG, the TV switches to HDR mode. You still have access to general picture settings includes the various HDR picture modes.

2f452ea8726baae6cea2da2ebed0a9c8276686e5d489307beb82f9d1a8742aaa.jpg



http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1500441850


HLG (Hybrid Log Gamma) test video


Most manufacturers are currently working to issue firmware updates to enable HLG support. HLG is the third HDR format and intended for broadcast TV (TV channels).

So in the future, HLG support will be crucial if you are planning on watching broadcast TV in the best possible video quality.

If you want to check whether your TV supports HLG you can download a test video here: http://4kmedia.org/lg-cymatic-jazz-hdr-hlg-uhd-4k-demo/

Note that the test video will play on all TVs - that's how HLG is designed - so your TV supports HLG only if it switches to the HDR picture mode. Like this:

lg2016oledhlg-1l.jpg


We've done some testing and can confirm that HLG is supported on the following TVs:

- 2016 LG OLED (with latest firmware), except B6
- 2017 LG OLED
- 2017 Panasonic 4K TVs
- 2017 Sony 4K TVs
- 2016 Sony 4K TVs (with latest firmware)
- 2017 Philips 4K TVs
- 2017 Samsung 4k TVs

I've also had it confirmed from an owner of Sony Z9D (ZD9) that it works over the internal TV tuner (DVB-S) after the latest firmware update. You can tune in on Eutelsat Hotbird 13 East.


General information about HLG:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?su ... 1473338993

HLG requires HDMI 2.0b if transmitted via HDMI:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?su ... 1481526782

HLG firmware update for 2016 LG OLED TVs:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?su ... 1500441850

HLG firmware update for 2016 Panasonic TVs:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?su ... 1487319665

HLG firmware update for 2016 Philips TVs:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?su ... 1489426063

HLG firmware update for Loewe OLED TVs:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?su ... 1491303757

HLG firmware update for 2015 and first-half 2016 Sony TVs:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?su ... 1498724600

HLG support in Google's Android TV:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?su ... 1473405995

HLG included in BT.2100 standard:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?su ... 1467719709

Next phase of DVB tuner standard includes HLG:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?su ... 1483671117

Read more at http://www.flatpanelshd.com/flatforums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8493#WluOQbqQPmc7kZ4t.99
 
Last edited:
Hisense reveals what your television needs to make the most of the Xbox One X

Microsoft’s new release will change everything this November, Hisense’s TV experts explain what features your TV needs to make the most of the Xbox One X

This year’s E3 in June was remarkable for many reasons, including Bethesda managing to find yet another way to re-box Skyrim, but one announcement stood out head and shoulders above the rest. Microsoft finally announced the full details of its much-anticipated Project Scorpio. The Xbox One X, as it is now known, will be the most powerful gaming console ever and will out-perform the vast majority of gaming PCs at the same price point - never mind Sony’s PS4 Pro.

With such a powerful machine only months away, the question is what features does your new 4K Xbox One X ready TV need to make sure you make the most of every last drop of the incredible six teraflops of processing power.

High Dynamic Range (HDR)

The X will render in native 4K HDR10, thanks to its eight-core CPU running at 2.3 GHz, 8GB flash memory and 12GB of GDDR5 RAM, and therefore if your 4K set is more than 18 months old you’re going to miss out on one of the most impressive visual upgrades thanks to the Xbox’s new-found power. High Dynamic Range, which reached the market in 2016, protects detail in the highest and lowest ranges of contrast while also increasing the upper and lower limits of contrast. Meaning, come November when you’re battling your way through Gears of War 4, the flash of your Lancer muzzle will burn ever brighter and the dank corridors you creep through will be ever darker. Couple this with Hisense’s local dimming technology which breaks down the backlight into independent panels, the Xbox One X will be capable of incredible contrast – who knows what will be creeping in the dark, mere millimetres from your flashlight.

Wide Colour Gamut (WCG)

Wide Colour Gamut (WCG) technology is also key if you want to achieve the true spectacle of 4K gaming, developed to really make colours pop, whereas HDR10 makes bright, brighter and dark, darker WCG technology makes reds, redder and greens, greener. Screens with WCG and HDR10 take full advantage of the 4K resolution, creating genuinely astonishingly crisp, colourful and dynamic images. If you’re looking to be blown away by Final Fantasy XV all over again this November, there’s only one way to make your adventure through Lucis and the rest of Eos your most beautiful gaming experience yet.

Motion Estimation/Motion Compensation (MEMC)

Many pessimistic fans questioned whether Project Scorpio could really produce a console that could render 4K at 60FPS but the Xbox One X will certainly achieve this. Coupled with Hisense’s Motion Estimation/Motion Compensation (MEMC) technology, November will be the dawn of the smoothest gaming experience any living room gamer has experienced previously. MEMC, actively reduces on screen motion blur of fast moving objects by rendering extra frames, meaning even the most rapid of movements appears smooth and realistic. Forza 7 developers, Turn10, boasted in their E3 show that you’d be first to drive the yet unreleased Porsche 911 GT2 RS when you stepped up to Forza this November, MEMC and the Xbox’s 60FPS capabilities mean that you won’t miss a beat as you sweep through Eau Rouge or barrel down the Corkscrew at Laguna Seca.

Equipped with HDR plus and an 85% WCG, a 16-block local dimming system and motion blur reduction technology, the N6800 is available from £599 and is the perfect first 4K TV for any gaming-mad fan – you could be gaming with a brand new Xbox One X and Hisense 4K N6800 for £1198. For those looking to step up the heady heights of premium UHD, the Hisense NU9700 is equipped with HDR Supreme and a 100% wide colour gamut, motion blur reduction technology and 128 panel local dimming technology, the 70-inch model is available for £2,999.

http://www.icxm.net/x/what-your-tv-needs-to-make-most-of-xbox-one-x.html
 
Those over priced ass tvs. They better throw something in to make up for the hundreds of dollars a consumer is overpaying.

I agree, that's why i bought my TV brand new off ebay with a two year square trade warranty. Saved $1000 :cool:

Some people prefer Bestbuy and Walmart. So those deals might catch their eyes.
 
If yall can't pick it up at walmart at 4am black friday everything is over priced with bgol.

I don't do black friday sales. I worked retail and I know most of them are bullshit. My point is Sony products are tremendously overpriced when there are cheaper and better alternatives with Samsung and LG...but Samsung is starting to get in that bullshit too with the pricing.
 
based on the info here and my x1x pre-order, my next tv purchase is looking like
49" or larger
240 refresh rate
hdr
wcg
oled
probably Samsung for the steam link app
sub $600
 
I got the Sony XBR-A1E. It was between that and the samsung qleds. The Magnolia associate sold me on the A1E. So far i'm not mad at it. The colors are insane. The blacks are truly black. The sound quality is not bad for built in speakers. There's a woofer behind the unit for LF and the Mid-HF sound actually reverberates from the screen itself. Only downfall is that the tv is heavy af since the screen is glass and not plastic.

https://www.sony.com/electronics/televisions/a1e-series
 
I don't do black friday sales. I worked retail and I know most of them are bullshit. My point is Sony products are tremendously overpriced when there are cheaper and better alternatives with Samsung and LG...but Samsung is starting to get in that bullshit too with the pricing.

So u would take LG the E or G series over the Sony A1 based on price
 
I'd compare models with the same displays. I don't care about smart features because there's going to be an Xbox or a Ps4 connected to it.


That's why i asked about the G series and the A1 oled from your pov. I was told LG picture wise is the same. The G series has a glass front instead of plastic it also has a foldable sound bar in case u wanna wall mount the tv
 
That's why i asked about the G series and the A1 oled from your pov. I was told LG picture wise is the same. The G series has a glass front instead of plastic it also has a foldable sound bar in case u wanna wall mount the tv

I say check rtings.com. They are better than cnet in my opinion.
 
How the Xbox One and Xbox One X will protect your OLED TV from burn-in

xbox-hideit-0.jpg



The general consensus right now is that OLED TVs are the best for 4K HDR gaming, providing the best viewing angles, the best contrast ratios, and the best color gamuts. We list the LG C7 as the best OLED 4K HDR TV you can pick up right now for the Xbox One S and Xbox One X, and that's not likely to change for a while.

However, more and more people are waking up to the fact that OLED sets can suffer from burn-in and image retention. Microsoft is aware, however, and in Xbox One build 1710, they have already prepared a way to combat this issue.

What is OLED burn-in?
Burn-in typically refers to the appearance of previous images shown by the becoming "burned" into the display, appearing like a faint ghost-like blur or image on top of whatever you're currently watching. Burn-in was particularly notable on Plasma TVs, which are no longer in circulation.

OLED TVs are made up of organic light emitting diodes, with each pixel representing an individual point of colored light. The "black" in an OLED is simply a pixel that is switched off, giving OLED screens vivid contrast ratios with support for truly black points of darkness.

For Xbox One and other consoles, burn-in is potentially a bigger problem, as the system menus with bright elements and outlines can quite easily lead to burn-in if left turned on and unattended, fixed on screen for long periods of time.

xbox-one-1710-dashboard.jpg


OLED burn-in doesn't seem to be anywhere near as widespread as Plasma burn-in was, but it still represents an issue potential owners should be aware of.

One of the more common issues you'll notice for OLED sets is temporary image retention. If left on a static screen for too long, the image can become retained in the display, albeit temporarily. For example, the white text on the Xbox dashboard or the HUD in a first person shooter fixes pixels in a high-intensity state for the duration of their active use. If you're playing 4-6 hours of Battlefield 1, you're keeping those pixels representing the HUD locked in a single state for a long time.

Turning off the TV for a while, typically, seems to resolve this temporary retention issue, but OLED TVs on display in stores for months, cycling through the same content or displaying a single image have been known to suffer from more serious bouts of burn-in. If you're playing serviced-based games for months, showing the same HUD for months, that could potentially represent a problem. Thankfully, Microsoft has already developed technology to help combat this issue.

How the Xbox defends against burn-in
In the Xbox One's 1710 update, Microsoft introduced new screen dimmer features to the console. Some of these features include large notifications that let you view invites at a glance, when you might not be paying attention to the TV, but also, a special technique designed to prevent against OLED burn-in and other types of image retention.

By enabling the new Xbox One screen dimmer, it will induce a screensaver of sorts, that not only defends against burn-in over longer periods of time but also "scrubs" image retention from the screen.

xbox-screen-dimmer-scrubber.gif


In the capture above, we've dialed up the contrast and brightness quite high so you can see the Xbox screen dimmer in action. In practice, it will be very hard to see with the naked eye.

There are bands of varying intensity scrolling from left to right across the screen, comprised of a noise pattern that is quite difficult to reproduce in a screen shot, but you can see it if you enable it on your own TV. The noise intensity increases and decreases as the pattern scrolls across the display, exercising the individual diodes with subtle differences in light and color.

Your OLED should be safe with Xbox
This technique was designed specifically by the team at Xbox to combat image retention and burn-in, and for those picking up OLEDs, enabling the screen dimmer will go a long way to extending the longevity of your set.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-xbox-one-and-xbox-one-x-will-protect-your-oled-tv-burn
 
Amazon slashes prices on 4K content in response to Apple TV 4K’s launch

W_RQ.0.jpeg

One of the many announcements at Apple’s keynote a couple weeks ago was that 4K movies would be added to iTunes at the same price as HD content. Previously purchased HD movies would also be upgraded to 4K for free, though for streaming only. In response, Amazon Video has drastically slashed the prices of its own 4K content to match iTunes.

As Pocket Lint notes, Amazon Video’s 4K selection is not only limited in comparison to Apple’s, but was incredibly expensive with purchases running over $30. (This price was comparable to services like Vudu and Google, but Apple’s worked out deals to offer 4K HDR movies at $19.99.) Over the weekend, it appears prices for 4K titles on Amazon Video are now starting at around $5, with newer releases in the range of $7 to $19.

Amazon has recently stopped selling the Fire TV amid rumors of new devices that will support 4K and HDR content; one will have a built-in IR blaster to control older TVs that don't support the HDMI-CEC standard. While that’s appealing, the new Apple TV 4K is now the only standalone box that supports the Dolby Vision HDR standard, and will eventually support Dolby Atmos surround sound. Apple’s version is definitely a little more of a luxury product, but with a more robust catalog and fuller high-end AV support coming, Amazon is certainly adjusting to compete.


https://www.theverge.com/tech/2017/9/25/16361682/amazon-slashes-prices-4k-content-apple-tv-4k-launch
 


DKmXZ5QXkAAtUzN.jpg:large



He got his OLED hooked up to the same Belkin surge protector as my OLED. A repair man came to fix my old LED told me to hook it up to a intelligent LCD UPS system.:dunno:
 
Last edited:
Dude got a 77" W-OLED and put that shit so high it looks stupid...should have mounted it lower and did a better job of hiding the cable (double sided tape), otherwise must be nice to be given a $15K!
 
Go with the LG if you going OLED...Sony uses LG panel and LG is beating Sony straight up in some comparisons...Sony cost at least 1000 more so that's an easy decision for the LG...they are pretty much tied overall...Panasinic using LG OLED panels too but the Panasonic not available in the States
 
Go with the LG if you going OLED...Sony uses LG panel and LG is beating Sony straight up in some comparisons...Sony cost at least 1000 more so that's an easy decision for the LG...they are pretty much tied overall...Panasinic using LG OLED panels too but the Panasonic not available in the States

Had an LG plasma, gave it to my mom's cause I wanted a bigger tv, I miss that damn LG, LG will be my next purchase when I need another set:lol:
 
Back
Top