(Cnet) Should I buy an OLED TV now or wait for 2017 models
Bad move Samsung
Samsung's "QLED" TVs go up for pre-order, starting at $2500
If you want one of Samsung’s 2017 LCDs, branded “QLED”, you must be prepared to spend a lot. The Q7 and Q8 are now up for pre-order starting at $2500 for a 55-inch TV.
Samsung 2017 TV pricing
At CES 2017, Samsung unveiled its 2017 line-up of TVs that the company will sell as “QLED”. To be clear this is not a new display technology but LCD TVs that utilize quantum dots, much like the 2015 and 2016 Samsung “SUHD” LCD TVs.
Still, the 2017 TVs will be considerably more expensive than last year’s models. The flat Q7F (F for flat) starts at $2500 dollars for the 55” version. For comparison, last year’s 55” KS8000 was $1800 at launch. The curved Q8C (C for curved) will cost you $3500 for a 55” model whereas last year’s KS8500 was $2000 at launch.
Samsung has started taking pre-orders for the Q7F and Q8C. The Korean company will also launch an even more premium Q9 series but has yet to reveal pricing.
Samsung has chosen to position the new QLED models as high-end competitors to OLED models that have taken over a considerable share of the premium TV market. Pricing must reflect that but it still seems quite steep for edge-lit LCD TVs.
You can pre-order the TVs from samsung.com.
Samsung 2017 QLED LCD TV pricing
Q7 flat - Q7F:
55” $2,499.99
65” $3,499.99
75” $5,999.99
Q8 curved – Q8C:
55” $3,499.99
65” $4,499.99
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1486376804
https://hdguru.com/samsung-reveals-prices-on-2017-q8c-q7f-4k-uhd-qled-tvs/
Samsung's "QLED" TVs go up for pre-order, starting at $2500
If you want one of Samsung’s 2017 LCDs, branded “QLED”, you must be prepared to spend a lot. The Q7 and Q8 are now up for pre-order starting at $2500 for a 55-inch TV.
Samsung 2017 TV pricing
At CES 2017, Samsung unveiled its 2017 line-up of TVs that the company will sell as “QLED”. To be clear this is not a new display technology but LCD TVs that utilize quantum dots, much like the 2015 and 2016 Samsung “SUHD” LCD TVs.
Still, the 2017 TVs will be considerably more expensive than last year’s models. The flat Q7F (F for flat) starts at $2500 dollars for the 55” version. For comparison, last year’s 55” KS8000 was $1800 at launch. The curved Q8C (C for curved) will cost you $3500 for a 55” model whereas last year’s KS8500 was $2000 at launch.
Samsung has started taking pre-orders for the Q7F and Q8C. The Korean company will also launch an even more premium Q9 series but has yet to reveal pricing.
Samsung has chosen to position the new QLED models as high-end competitors to OLED models that have taken over a considerable share of the premium TV market. Pricing must reflect that but it still seems quite steep for edge-lit LCD TVs.
You can pre-order the TVs from samsung.com.
Samsung 2017 QLED LCD TV pricing
Q7 flat - Q7F:
55” $2,499.99
65” $3,499.99
75” $5,999.99
Q8 curved – Q8C:
55” $3,499.99
65” $4,499.99
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1486376804
https://hdguru.com/samsung-reveals-prices-on-2017-q8c-q7f-4k-uhd-qled-tvs/
Wow
Sony's 2017 high-end LCD TVs cost more than LG's OLEDs
For the last couple of years the best TV picture quality has come courtesy of LG's OLED TVs. They've also been the most expensive.
Thanks to a combination of LG's aggressive price drops and high initial pricing by rivals like Samsung and now Sony, however, the relative price of OLED isn't sky-high anymore.
Sony's latest 2017 LCD-based TVs are now up for preorder. They start at $2,400 for the 55-inch size in the midrange X900E series, which is $400 more than LG's 55-inch B6 OLED TV from 2016, which we called the best-performing TV we've ever tested. In Sony's higher-end X930E series, prices are even higher.
If you're wondering about Sony's own OLED-based TV, the A1E series, Sony has yet to announce its price or when it will be available. Based on the prices of its 2017 LCDs, however, I think the A1E's rumored price of $2,000 for a 55-incher is wildly optimistic.
So what does that mean for high-end TV shoppers in 2017? Just like Samsung with its similarly priced QLED televisions, Sony is claiming picture quality advantages over OLED technology, including superior light output and color. Based on my experience and previous reviews, however, I don't expect either QLED or Sony's new LCD TVs to beat OLED in overall picture quality. In other words, OLED remains the TV technology to beat, and high-end LCD TVs will have to be as good or better at the same price (or lower) to compete.
I'll know for sure when I can compare Sony's new LCD TVs and Samsung's QLEDs with LG's 2016 and 2017 OLED models in the lab. In the meantime I can compare their prices as far as I know.
Sony high-end 2017 LCD TVs vs. LG OLED TVs
Size Model year Shipping date Local dimming Price
Sony XBR-49X900E 49-inch 2017 March Full-array $1,700
Sony XBR-55X900E 55-inch 2017 March Full-array $2,400
Sony XBR-65X900E 65-inch 2017 March Full-array $3,200
Sony XBR-75X900E 75-inch 2017 March Full-array $6,000
Sony XBR-55X930E 55-inch 2017 March Edge-lit $3,300
Sony XBR-65X930E 65-inch 2017 March Edge-lit $4,000
Sony XBR-75X940E 75-inch 2017 March Full-array $7,500
LG OLED55B6 55-inch 2016 Now Flat $2,000
LG OLED65B6 65-inch 2016 Now Flat $3,000
LG OLED55C7 55-inch 2017 Spring? Flat $2,500
LG OLED65C7 65-inch 2017 Spring? Flat $4,000
LG OLED65W7 65-inch 2017 March "Wallpaper" $8,000
Of course, all of those prices are basically starting bids, and as always I expect them to fall throughout the year. The 2016 Sony XBR-65X930D, for example, was introduced at $5,000 and fell all the way to $1,800 on February 4 according to price tracking site camelcamelcamel. That's a drop of 64 percent, and includes a massive cut of $1,500 very early in its lifespan. If the same thing happens with its 2017 successor, the XBR-65X930E may get as low as $1,500. I'll be surprised if LG's 2017 65-inch OLED TVs ever get that low.
The moral, as always with TV shopping, is to wait until at least the Black Friday time if you want the best price.
Sweet picture-quality specs and Google smarts
The 2016 X930D was one of the best-performing TV we tested in 2016, and the high-end Z9D (which I haven't tested yet) is widely thought to be one of the best LCD TVs ever made, so Sony's new 2017 models have a great picture-quality pedigree.
The main difference between the X900E series above and the two more expensive X930E sets is their local-dimming backlight scheme. The more-expensive X930E uses edge lighting while the X900E uses full-array. Despite the fact that full-array usually performs better in our tests, Sony says the edge-lit X930E is actually the superior performer with better contrast (light output and black levels), thanks to an improved version of the Slim Backlight Drive system we liked so much last year. Meanwhile the highest-end Sony LCD aside from the Z9D (which remains on sale throughout 2017) is the 75-inch X940E, which uses a full-array backlight and should be a superb performer.
Sony also claims superior video processing on the higher-end X930E/X940E sets; there the X1 Extreme chip supposedly "improves HD content to near 4K HDR quality." TVs with that processor, including the 2016 Z9D and the A1E OLED TV, will receive a firmware upgrade later this year to enable Dolby Vision HDR content.
Sony also introduced the lower-end X800E/X850E series, with the 43-inch XBR-43X800E ($1,000), 49-inch XBR-49X800E ($1,100), 55-inch XBR-55X800E ($1,900), 65-inch XBR-65X850E ($2,500), and 75-inch XBR-75X850E ($5,000). These sets lack local dimming but, like all of the the step-up models, do handle HDR10 content and claim a wide color gamut.
Just like last year, Sony uses Google Android TV for its smart-TV system, and I liked it better than the ones used by Samsung and LG, mainly because of its superb app support and voice control. In addition, it enables control of stuff like Netflix and YouTube streaming using the Google Home speaker -- just like Chromecast.
Later this year Sony TVs will receive an update that integrates Google Assistant into the TV itself. Since there's no far-field mic built into the TV (a la Home or Nvidia Shield), you'll have to speak into the TV remote's microphone rather than into thin air, but otherwise the TV should do everything any Assistant-equipped device can, such as control compatible smart home devices. Sony also demonstrated TV-specific functions like refining search results using natural language.
Sony's 2017 TVs start shipping in March and I hope to have full reviews soon afterward.
https://www.cnet.com/news/sonys-201...d0ad&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter
This could be the 2017 LG OLED TV to beat
If you can afford an OLED TV but don't have piles of money to burn, this is the model for you. At least for now.
The C7 series is the cheapest member of LG's 2017 OLED TV lineup. The 55-inch size costs $3,500 and debuts later in February, while the 65-inch size costs $4,500 and arrives in March.
Those prices aren't cheap, of course. They're significantly higher than what LG is charging for the cheapest 2016 models, the B6 series, which we called the best-performing TV we've ever tested. They're also higher than what Samsung and Sony charge for some of their higher-end 2017 LCD TVs.
They might also be higher than what LG will charge for the B7, a model it announced at CES but hasn't priced. And as with all TV prices, those of the C7 will likely fall throughout the year, reaching a low point sometime around Black Friday or the holiday season.
Here's the pricing for the 2017 OLED models LG has announced.
LG 2017 OLED TVs
Model Size Price Availability
OLED55C7P 55-inch $3,500 February
OLED65C7P 65-inch $4,500 February
OLED55E7P 55-inch $4,500 May
OLED65E7P 65-inch $6,000 March
OLED65G7P 65-inch $7,000 March
OLED65W7P 65-inch $8,000 March
The main differences between the various 2017 LG OLED TVs are related to styling. Here's a rundown:
- B7: crescent stand, "blade slim" look
- C7: premium aluminum stand and bezel
- E7: picture-on-glass design with integrated sound bar (similar to 2016 E6)
- G7: picture-on-glass design with foldable integrated sound bar
- W7: ultrathin picture-on-wall design with separate sound bar
The 2017 models offer the following picture quality improvements over the 2016 versions:
- 25 percent brighter in highlights
- 2 percent better coverage of DCI/P3 color (from 97 to 99 percent)
- compatible with Technicolor and HLG HDR formats
- "Active HDR" mode
- Technicolor picture mode
- Dolby Atmos sound
Of course I won't know for sure until I can test one, something that will hopefully happen soon.
https://www.cnet.com/products/lg-oled55c7p/preview/?ftag=COS-05-10aaa0b&linkId=34868277
Lg did a update to fix the gaming input
http://4k.com/news/the-4k-tv-hdr-ga...been-fixed-by-lg-for-some-tvs-at-least-17828/
http://4k.com/news/the-4k-tv-hdr-ga...been-fixed-by-lg-for-some-tvs-at-least-17828/
Electronics retailer hhgregg is going out of business
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...egg-is-going-out-of-business/ar-BBzy1Om?pfr=1
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...egg-is-going-out-of-business/ar-BBzy1Om?pfr=1
Yea man
I was just driving down the highway a couple hours ago
And saw a dude holding up a "HH Gregg going out of business" sign, near the store corner
I live in North Carolina, so I'm not sure where else they are going out of business
But pretty soon won't be shit left but BestBuy
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I did the same, got the E6 for $2k....and at that price its def a steal....I been doing TV wrong all this time, never going back to LED/LCD!!! Shit is crazy, its like a big ass Smart Phone screen super crisp, clear, uniform, with extreme viewing angles. No Gaming lag either, havent tried 3D yet but heard its sick.
If you are not getting 3D, wait. The price to build is going down every year. Plus Panasonic and Sony are joining the party this year. Sony has the best processors and technology. The only thing that holds them back is money. They built the first consumer oled TV and the first QLED tv. They are only held back by the partnership with sharp. The will buy panels from LG.
Anyone getting 3D buy now, there will be no 3D's produced for 3017.
Anyone getting 3D buy now, there will be no 3D's produced for 3017.
B6 is no 3d, just a heads up
Not really. They still produce 3d movies.
LG OLED55E6P $1799 Ebay
http://pages.ebay.com/rewards/faq.html
Back on the E6 bandwagon lol I might cop.
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http://pages.ebay.com/rewards/faq.html
Back on the E6 bandwagon lol I might cop.
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I have owned an LG OLED 55EF9500 since it first hit the market, cost me $2999 and it's an awesome TV.
It did take a shit about a year after I got it (lost a video board) but LG took care of everything quickly, I did not have to leave the house.
It did take a shit about a year after I got it (lost a video board) but LG took care of everything quickly, I did not have to leave the house.
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LG E6 Calibration Settings
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/e6/settings
LG 65 inch E6 OLED TV Best Picture Settings
TV Comparison: Sony XBR A1E and LG OLED G7P
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/e6/settings
LG 65 inch E6 OLED TV Best Picture Settings
TV Comparison: Sony XBR A1E and LG OLED G7P
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