Ciara is being petty after laughing about co-parenting with future.

Yes, let's make it by law that every child a man fathers MUST spend 50% of their time living with the father and that father has to then fully take care of all his children 50% of the time. Get them to school, get them fed, make sure they do their home work, parent conferences at school, for every single child.

Easy!! I love this!! That automatically means father gets residential and primary custody!! Agreed
And what do the mothers do?
 
Easy!! I love this!! That automatically means father gets residential and primary custody!! Agreed
And what do the mothers do?
Split custody. So both parties are responsible. And every man has to maintain a household suitable to house and raise every child he has fathered.
 
At this point and before you’re just typing to type..Caping for Future is another Bgol low point…aka Mr

Before you continue poorly trolling or genuinely don't comprehend well...

I don't personally know Future to cape for him nor am I that invested. Unless you have something to add, you don't know Future, Ciara or Russell to give details about what their issues are either. All we have is poor behavior from adults who seem to be more concerned about belittling each other in public than thinking about whats good for the kid.

From my point of view all parties are equally responsible for the situation. That seems to be the difference between me and you. Does Future need to talk shit in songs. No, he does not. Should Ciara publicly give negative impressions of their co-parenting situation. No, just give the basic bs response about we are working on it and we both love our kid. Both are involving themselves in antics that aren't constructive to their overall goal.

Can you co-parent effectively from a significant distance? yes or no

Do you believe they are doing a good job of it from what we can observe? Yes or no

Does good co-parenting mean working together for the interests of the kid? Yes or no

Does Future moving really address the larger issue of how they are able to coparent? Yes or no.
 
That being said, neither party seems to be helping the situation outside looking in. While possible we'll intended overall, Russell is also a problem....
One party is raising the child and one isn't. Playing the "both sides" bullshit on absentee parenting is clown shit. Almost as clownish as blaming Russ for being the only present father raising that boy.
 
Before you continue poorly trolling or genuinely don't comprehend well...

I don't personally know Future to cape for him nor am I that invested. Unless you have something to add, you don't know Future, Ciara or Russell to give details about what their issues are either. All we have is poor behavior from adults who seem to be more concerned about belittling each other in public than thinking about whats good for the kid.

From my point of view all parties are equally responsible for the situation. That seems to be the difference between me and you. Does Future need to talk shit in songs. No, he does not. Should Ciara publicly give negative impressions of their co-parenting situation. No, just give the basic bs response about we are working on it and we both love our kid. Both are involving themselves in antics that aren't constructive to their overall goal.

Can you co-parent effectively from a significant distance? yes or no

Do you believe they are doing a good job of it from what we can observe? Yes or no

Does good co-parenting mean working together for the interests of the kid? Yes or no

Does Future moving really address the larger issue of how they are able to coparent? Yes or no.
Im trolling while you’re defending a notorious deadbeat with 8 babymothers….have a nice day Sir
 
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First though regarding this SPECIFIC clip the woman is joking. We as men can't act like we perfect and innocent either. future lied to her hurt her and cheated. How the f*ck we expect her to react?

And I've been in those court rooms and offices a few times too

Father's get treated like extras in the movie. Judges will overwhelming always side with the mother. Kids get manipulated. Men are silenced. Its petty vengeful spiteful.

It's wrong been wrong but we also have to understand what all that stems from.

Go visit a women's shelter foster care etc.

And listen and see what many men do to their wives baby mothers and kids.

Most men go to court, hold on real talk? Most don't show up. Most don't want the kid. Most don't make an effort to get lawyers.

Cause like Tall, I KNOW dudes who FOUGHT for their kids. Got lawyers, statements, etc and got increased custody, etc.

Actually I know quite a few who got full custody

But it is NOT easy but it also isn't impossible or insanely difficult if you educate yourself and do the work.

And quiet is kept?

Every woman isn't a b*tch. Many make comfortable agreements with the father too.

it's a two sided situation that's messy and complicated.

But to act like dudes are all innocent and want their kids is utter bullsh*t.

And to act like there are not many stand up outstanding black singles dads doing a great job is also bullsh*t.
One of Jonas brothers pulled some shit on Sansa from game of throne. Where he took the kids for a few and filed for divorce and custody while in Miami. After agreeing to move the family to england and work on their marriage.
 
One party is raising the child and one isn't. Playing the "both sides" bullshit on absentee parenting is clown shit. Almost as clownish as blaming Russ for being the only present father raising that boy.
One party has the child with them and the other is in another state. Did Future move away from his kid or was the kid moved away? This goes back to my entire point. If they were better co-parents maybe the move never happens or Ciara/Russ only live out of state during the season. Russell has money to have multiple homes just like Future. During the season the kid is with Future. Because of their poor communication skills, this option was likely never discussed.

The kid has a father that claims to want to be a part of his kids life. What Russell is doing is respectable high level, but my personal belief is step- parents should assist in the co-parenting process and avoid the dumb shit. If you believe Russell is being genuine then he should be more empathetic to the situation and avoid shit that maybe taken wrongly. Again, my thoughts are coming from Future claiming to want or pretending to want to be a father. I'm not naive enough to say it's the truth but all we can do is take his words at face value.
 
Split custody. So both parties are responsible. And every man has to maintain a household suitable to house and raise every child he has fathered.

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Anyways on a more serious note,
I feel like this is a great opportunity to have the discussion on solutions and changes
 
:roflmao2:


Anyways on a more serious note,
I feel like this is a great opportunity to have the discussion on solutions and changes
Talking about it on BGOL is cool but that also needs to be talked about with lawyers or people attenting meetings for the change they want to see when it comes to child support..
 
She’s laughing at the same man she let nut in her even though she definitely knew he wasn’t shit. Did she think she was going to change him? He already had several baby mommas at that point.
I'm guessing here...but at the time she wasn't thinking along those lines....also the kid is like 10 years old which means she was in her 20s at the time she got pregnant.

People are allowed to grow bruh. If you're still thinking the same after 10 years you are failing at life.

Are you still attracted to the same types of women you were in your 20s?
 
And I love what you are saying.

The first step is, men need to stick together and teach eachother certain things.

The next step is we've got to be vocal about changing the laws that are archaic and unfair.

Do you agree?
I agree be once again the system is design to make money and oppress us black people from moving forward. (Divorce Corp documentary) explains this.

Imagine a tiger has a baby, and you go in the cage and take the baby away from the tiger. Close the cage and then don’t never return the cub. What do you think that tiger would do to you, when he get a clear shot. This is ideally what you do to fathers and expect them to remain sane, silent and level headed.

It takes three months to get a child support hearing and even if it takes longer. Your CS started on the day she filed, so you already behind. Now it takes almost a year to gain some type of visitation. You’re not awarded no extra days you missed before your court date period.

Therefore you resent your child’s mother for the pain you missed. The kid first steps, first words while your parents haven’t seen their grandchild yet. But theirs light at the end of the tunnel because the lawyer is telling you I got you. Meanwhile his retainer starts at 3k and $250 for any phone you make to him.

So now you get some sort of visitation and everything is going smooth. Until X-Mas your schedule to pick up your child 12/25 at 3pm. Well baby mother decides to not answer the phone and take your day. You call the police they tell you file a contempt and they can’t take the kid away from her. Even with your paperwork, they hit you with theirs nothing we can do take it back to court.

By this time you missed Christmas, get back to court 4 months later around April. Judge just gives you a make up day and this year Christmas is all yours. Judge ask mother why you didn’t give him the kid..she say oh the kid was sick..case dismissed just like that.

The system is designed for us to argue and break up two income homes. Which makes the man struggle cause he can barely afford cs and his rent and bills together. While the mother is sitting in a 2300 dollar house with damn near a thousand dollars off for at least 18 years.

Just think how powerful Ciara/Russ and Future would be if they work together. Instead Ciara no the game as well, the minute future buys a house out Denver she moving to another state period. She laughs now..but the son is going to be mentally destroyed when he gets older. He’s going to resent his mother. While running back to his dad, future just has to wait this out.

Last thing both parents should pay child support and have it in an account. Once the kid hit maybe 25 all the money is his.

Sorry for the Colin Powell
 
Could’ve had something to do with Kanye acting like a stalker? Sending weird messages, video rants, music videos beheading Pete Davison, crying about not wanting a divorce and winning Kim back…….
Bro you can’t take a child away from a man and expect him to be calm. Was he this same person before Kim had 4 kids with him? And she proceeded anyway.

Where you think that Tyrese crying meme came from. His daughter was taken away from him.

Yet Deion Sander is doing a hella of a job with his kids from crazy ass Pilar. But nobody give him his flowers as a single Father.
 
I agree be once again the system is design to make money and oppress us black people from moving forward. (Divorce Corp documentary) explains this.

Imagine a tiger has a baby, and you go in the cage and take the baby away from the tiger. Close the cage and then don’t never return the cub. What do you think that tiger would do to you, when he get a clear shot. This is ideally what you do to fathers and expect them to remain sane, silent and level headed.

It takes three months to get a child support hearing and even if it takes longer. Your CS started on the day she filed, so you already behind. Now it takes almost a year to gain some type of visitation. You’re not awarded no extra days you missed before your court date period.

Therefore you resent your child’s mother for the pain you missed. The kid first steps, first words while your parents haven’t seen their grandchild yet. But theirs light at the end of the tunnel because the lawyer is telling you I got you. Meanwhile his retainer starts at 3k and $250 for any phone you make to him.

So now you get some sort of visitation and everything is going smooth. Until X-Mas your schedule to pick up your child 12/25 at 3pm. Well baby mother decides to not answer the phone and take your day. You call the police they tell you file a contempt and they can’t take the kid away from her. Even with your paperwork, they hit you with theirs nothing we can do take it back to court.

By this time you missed Christmas, get back to court 4 months later around April. Judge just gives you a make up day and this year Christmas is all yours. Judge ask mother why you didn’t give him the kid..she say oh the kid was sick..case dismissed just like that.

The system is designed for us to argue and break up two income homes. Which makes the man struggle cause he can barely afford cs and his rent and bills together. While the mother is sitting in a 2300 dollar house with damn near a thousand dollars off for at least 18 years.

Just think how powerful Ciara/Russ and Future would be if they work together. Instead Ciara no the game as well, the minute future buys a house out Denver she moving to another state period. She laughs now..but the son is going to be mentally destroyed when he gets older. He’s going to resent his mother. While running back to his dad, future just has to wait this out.

Last thing both parents should pay child support and have it in an account. Once the kid hit maybe 25 all the money is his.

Sorry for the Colin Powell



This is what I'm talking about! Grown man discussion!!

I'm at the busiest part of my day. I'll be back to properly respond.
 
Talking about it on BGOL is cool but that also needs to be talked about with lawyers or people attenting meetings for the change they want to see when it comes to child support..


100000% agreed. I got much more to expound on

It's happening already, we HAVE to stick together and push for equality with thjs !!





 
Bro you can’t take a child away from a man and expect him to be calm. Was he this same person before Kim had 4 kids with him? And she proceeded anyway.

Where you think that Tyrese crying meme came from. His daughter was taken away from him.

Yet Deion Sander is doing a hella of a job with his kids from crazy ass Pilar. But nobody give him his flowers as a single Father.
I mean back then her and bow wow used to go together because she could've been with him before he had a kid himself as well or anyone else for that matter that didn't have multiple kids by different women. So, he had aot or choose from because of her status and being famous. She made that choice and have to lay in that bed and what's crazy is the fact dudes don't want to hold Ciara accountable for her poor choice in men and then wanted to rebound by getting a simp in Russell.
 
I agree be once again the system is design to make money and oppress us black people from moving forward. (Divorce Corp documentary) explains this.

Imagine a tiger has a baby, and you go in the cage and take the baby away from the tiger. Close the cage and then don’t never return the cub. What do you think that tiger would do to you, when he get a clear shot. This is ideally what you do to fathers and expect them to remain sane, silent and level headed.

It takes three months to get a child support hearing and even if it takes longer. Your CS started on the day she filed, so you already behind. Now it takes almost a year to gain some type of visitation. You’re not awarded no extra days you missed before your court date period.

Therefore you resent your child’s mother for the pain you missed. The kid first steps, first words while your parents haven’t seen their grandchild yet. But theirs light at the end of the tunnel because the lawyer is telling you I got you. Meanwhile his retainer starts at 3k and $250 for any phone you make to him.

So now you get some sort of visitation and everything is going smooth. Until X-Mas your schedule to pick up your child 12/25 at 3pm. Well baby mother decides to not answer the phone and take your day. You call the police they tell you file a contempt and they can’t take the kid away from her. Even with your paperwork, they hit you with theirs nothing we can do take it back to court.

By this time you missed Christmas, get back to court 4 months later around April. Judge just gives you a make up day and this year Christmas is all yours. Judge ask mother why you didn’t give him the kid..she say oh the kid was sick..case dismissed just like that.

The system is designed for us to argue and break up two income homes. Which makes the man struggle cause he can barely afford cs and his rent and bills together. While the mother is sitting in a 2300 dollar house with damn near a thousand dollars off for at least 18 years.

Just think how powerful Ciara/Russ and Future would be if they work together. Instead Ciara no the game as well, the minute future buys a house out Denver she moving to another state period. She laughs now..but the son is going to be mentally destroyed when he gets older. He’s going to resent his mother. While running back to his dad, future just has to wait this out.

Last thing both parents should pay child support and have it in an account. Once the kid hit maybe 25 all the money is his.

Sorry for the Colin Powell
That kid is calling Russ "daddy". He won't even really know Future when grows up. And Future can afford legal bills if he wants to see his son.
 
Bro you can’t take a child away from a man and expect him to be calm. Was he this same person before Kim had 4 kids with him? And she proceeded anyway.

Where you think that Tyrese crying meme came from. His daughter was taken away from him.

Yet Deion Sander is doing a hella of a job with his kids from crazy ass Pilar. But nobody give him his flowers as a single Father.
Bro you can’t take a child away from a man and expect him to be calm. Was he this same person before Kim had 4 kids with him? And she proceeded anyway.

Where you think that Tyrese crying meme came from. His daughter was taken away from him.

Yet Deion Sander is doing a hella of a job with his kids from crazy ass Pilar. But nobody give him his flowers as a single Father.
I agree great fathers deserve more recognition but I don’t recall anyone ever saying Kanye was a bad father? Kanye has mental health issues and has been batshit crazy since about 2015ish but I think he’s a great father

Tyrese is very public about his mental health issues

Deion is amazing
 
One party has the child with them and the other is in another state. Did Future move away from his kid or was the kid moved away? This goes back to my entire point. If they were better co-parents maybe the move never happens or Ciara/Russ only live out of state during the season. Russell has money to have multiple homes just like Future. During the season the kid is with Future. Because of their poor communication skills, this option was likely never discussed.

The kid has a father that claims to want to be a part of his kids life. What Russell is doing is respectable high level, but my personal belief is step- parents should assist in the co-parenting process and avoid the dumb shit. If you believe Russell is being genuine then he should be more empathetic to the situation and avoid shit that maybe taken wrongly. Again, my thoughts are coming from Future claiming to want or pretending to want to be a father. I'm not naive enough to say it's the truth but all we can do is take his words at face value.
You blaming everybody but the 40 year old nigga with 10 kids, 9 baby mamas, and none of em who live with him.
 
You blaming everybody but the 40 year old nigga with 10 kids, 9 baby mamas, and none of em who live with him.
There's enough blame that can go around and Ciara and all those other dumb bitches get blame too for allowing future to shoot the club up inside them.
 
You blaming everybody but the 40 year old nigga with 10 kids, 9 baby mamas, and none of em who live with him.
You should go back read my post and get back to me. Or don't.

As far as his kids go, Ciara was aware of his kids and chose to have her own by him. She is no more a victim than he is. She was a willing participant and now may be having buyers remorse. If he is a bad father, I'm sure there were signs he may not be the best parent she clearly ignored. For him, he assumed she'd be like the rest of his baby moms and in some way be dependent on him. He was wrong. Now they have a kid and they need to find a way to co-parent with the other 8 baby mothers.
 
You should go back read my post and get back to me. Or don't.

As far as his kids go, Ciara was aware of his kids and chose to have her own by him. She is no more a victim than he is. She was a willing participant and now may be having buyers remorse. If he is a bad father, I'm sure there were signs he may not be the best parent she clearly ignored. For him, he assumed she'd be like the rest of his baby moms and in some way be dependent on him. He was wrong. Now they have a kid and they need to find a way to co-parent with the other 8 baby mothers.
:bravo::clap::clap:
 
All them
There's enough blame that can go around and Ciara and all those other dumb bitches get blame too for allowing future to shoot the club up inside them.
All them "dumb bitches" aint they ones abandoning kids and being absentee parents.. Again, the "both sides" bullshit is sucka shit.
You should go back read my post and get back to me. Or don't.

As far as his kids go, Ciara was aware of his kids and chose to have her own by him. She is no more a victim than he is....
The only "victim" here is the got dam kid who is growing up without a present father you dumb son of a bitch.. Nothing else matters.. Your hyper focus on anything other than that leads me to believe you may be a piece of shit deadbeat father of bastards yaself.. Either that or just a moron.
 
All them "dumb bitches" aint they ones abandoning kids and being absentee parents.. Again, the "both sides" bullshit is sucka shit.
Not sucka shit at all when women can control who they allow access to their pussy. Also, it's not like they don't know he was fucking with other bitches that they still allowed him to procreate with them and then get mad because he wasn't shit but that's the dude they allowed to fuck them. So, like I said both parties needs to be held accountable. Its one sided when a lot of dudes always making excuses for women when they do wrong but then got a lot to say when dudes do wrong.
 
Not sucka shit at all when women can control who they allow access to their pussy.
More sucka shit. You talking about a bitch and her pussy.. Im talking about a child and parenting. You sound like a bitch ass nigga focusing on the wrong shit.

Further, that women is the one upholding the responsibility of parenthood that she undertook with pregnancy. She aint the issue here.
 
More sucka shit. You talking about a bitch and her pussy.. Im talking about a child and parenting. You sound like a bitch ass nigga focusing on the wrong shit.

Further, that women is the one upholding the responsibility of parenthood that she undertook with pregnancy. She aint the issue here.
Women gotta stop fucking these dudes raw they see no future with the same goes for dudes as well so there won't be None of this going on because a child never asked to be here and it takes 2 to make a baby as well to take care of them. It goes both ways.

And you sound like a caping ass bitch taking a side of women like that bitch got pregnant by a ghost.
 
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All them

All them "dumb bitches" aint they ones abandoning kids and being absentee parents.. Again, the "both sides" bullshit is sucka shit.

The only "victim" here is the got dam kid who is growing up without a present father you dumb son of a bitch.. Nothing else matters.. Your hyper focus on anything other than that leads me to believe you may be a piece of shit deadbeat father of bastards yaself.. Either that or just a moron.
Again, go back and read. Or don't.

If you're having issues comprehending, ask for clarification. My statement implies that neither are victims and they both made choices for better or worse. The fact that I'm constantly saying they need to work on their co-parenting and communication for the betterment of their son seems to be loss on you.

Stop talking just to be talking and learn to remove yourself from discussions you aren't capable of having. If you're this emotional about a situation that has nothing do with you, how can you have discussions with your kids? Assuming you have them.
 
Again, go back and read. Or don't.

If you're having issues comprehending, ask for clarification. My statement implies that neither are victims and they both made choices for better or worse. The fact that I'm constantly saying they need to work on their co-parenting and communication for the betterment of their son seems to be loss on you.

Stop talking just to be talking and learn to remove yourself from discussions you aren't capable of having. If you're this emotional about a situation that has nothing do with you, how can you have discussions with your kids? Assuming you have them.
:bravo: :bravo: :clap:
 
If they were better co-parents maybe the move never happens or Ciara/Russ only live out of state during the season. Russell has money to have multiple homes just like Future. During the season the kid is with Future. Because of their poor communication skills, this option was likely never discussed.

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Again, go back and read. Or don't.
No thanks. idiocy sounds the same no matter how many times you read it.
f you're having issues comprehending, ask for clarification. My statement implies that neither are victims and they both made choices for better or worse.
Not a comprehension issue. The issue is your refusal to address the matter of actual parenting while focusing on the decision making beforehand. Its literally the only thing you can do to continue to redirect focus on the woman. Which again, leads me to believe you're a piece of shit deadbeat bastard maker. And maybe YOU should go back and re-read some shit.. because i have already told you the only victim here is the child.
Stop talking just to be talking and learn to remove yourself from discussions you aren't capable of having. If you're this emotional about a situation that has nothing do with you, how can you have discussions with your kids? Assuming you have them.
This has become the calling card of the low IQ BGOL debater.. deflect, and accuse the opposing viewpoint of being emotional. There is no emotion involved here son.. Just common sense.. which you appear to be empty on.

And you sound like a capping ass bitch taking a side of women like that bitch got pregnant by a ghost.
I think you mean "caping"... but if pointing out that absentee fatherhood is problematic and sucka shit is me "capping".. then sobeit. I find deadbeat dad dick eating far more offensive.
 
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