Ciara is being petty after laughing about co-parenting with future.

We should build then…
I have won full custody of my son IN NY and moved out of state. It was an expensive and took almost three years but it’s possible. It will require ALL your energy and resources though, but it can be done.
Bingo
 
All my boys sounded just like you at one point in their lives. It was me that stopped a few of them from shooting their baby moms, going to jail for inflicted violence on individuals, etc. .. This topic hits more to home than you realize. Literally some of my boys went to hell and back with baby mama drama, from losing jobs, homes, paying child support, having altercations with baby mother boyfriends/ significant others, chicks not letting them see their kids for months even over a yr. Putting nigs through hell to the point they giving up hope and was on fuck it mode and wanted to take actions “violently “.. but who was there taking away guns, giving nigs motivation, telling them karma is real, that there’s light outside of this dark tunnel, it was me. Literally each of those individuals lives switched up and the complete 180 happened and everything worked for the better. In fact that’s how the whole damn convo started on Monday cause 1 of my boys who went through the shit with his babymom during Covid whipped it around my way with his new 6 fig truck fully paid hopped out and started doing a dance cause he won a court battle vs his babymom. He literally gave me the update with an incredible smile and said nig you were completely right about the tides were turning. It just so happened that a few of my other boys was there who went through the shit who also had me be their motivational nig to calm them down during the shit storm with their babymama drama and who are now in a good situation after winning their court battles. They all was laughing , comparing notes, and talking shit about how the tides turned. That’s how the convo of the organization begin and how they was like there needs to be a support group for nigs going through the shit that needs to be informed, educated, motivated, etc… so don’t tell me about false nig there’s tons of individuals that will tell you I pulled them out the shit when there was no hope and when there was nobody else around to help with the mental stress and even physical stress nigs were going through with all the bullshit. You have no idea how many people lives I saved, how many people I stopped from going to jail, etc. that’s why I get crazy love from individuals and why certain individuals will go all out for me if some shit would to present it’s negative self in front of me. I’ve always been the cool nig that makes sure everybody good. That’s mentality, financially, etc

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Dudes in here caping for Future when Future don't even cape for his own kids.

The only thing I'm waiting for now is the weird dudes who will say Future should beat up Russ and then get mad when you tell them Future couldn't whip Russ's ass even in his dreams.

I watch dudes gargle Future's nuts on Black Twitter is going to be a sad day if I see you dudes in here acting the same way.
 
If you want to fix issues you have with parenting or the child support system the easiest way is to fix your relationship with your baby's mother. News flash fellas. Women don't have to put you on child support. The court actually prefers if you come to an agreement between each other. But when you lack the conflict resolution skills to effectively have a conversation about the best well being of the child and you let your emotions get involved the court steps in. The court can't control your emotions or your behavior but they can hit your wallet. And that's what they do.

The line it's cheaper to keep her is real. And even if you ain't keeping her keep her in the fold give her a hug make her feel like she is part of your tribe and even if you ain't with her she will be down and loyal. If future was just being nice to Ciara. Nothing special just fucking be nice. The bitch will lie to the blogs for you. My past is riddled with bitches baby momma's ex-wife, co-bitches but ain't none of them got a bad word to say about me. I keep my face clean. I don't disrespect them and they don't disrespect me.
 
Given this particular situation yes money is a factor. Future has the means the majority of fathers don’t have. I have a Homie who lives in Tampa makes only $100k yet flies to Columbus, Ohio every week to see his kids and also gets them during the Summer. Why? Because he wants to be apart of his kids lives. It would take nothing for Future to maintain a condo or house in Denver or even get joint custody with his kid, like I said it’s a matter of making the effort. I’ve heard Future speak more on Russ and Cierra than his actual Kid…cut the bullshit excuses.

Also saying Russ is wrong for being more of a dad than the real dad is dumb as fuck….I swear our community needs some kind of reset



Visiting once a week does not compare to being in the home everyday or within reach in an hour or less. Money doesn't make up for the connection you lose with your kid. It's the reason why parents who focusi on buying things for their kids raise kids who view them as banks instead of parents.

I never said he was wrong for attempting to be a father figure. I said he's wrong for not knowing his role in the dynamic of the relationship. The reality is that is not his son. Assuming Future really does what to take part in that child's life it's Russell role to help facilitate that with Ciara or stay out of it all together. You don't need to be best friends but you all need to work together as a unit. That's why alot of people claim they don't want pre-made families. They don't want that type of responsibility or outside people having a vote on their home. Russell didn't get tricked. He went in to his relationship and marriage knowing a child existed, so he accepted the duties better or worse that come with being a step parent. Like it or not dealing with Future Senior is part of the package.
 
Visiting once a week does not compare to being in the home everyday or within reach in an hour or less. Money doesn't make up for the connection you lose with your kid. It's the reason why parents who focusi on buying things for their kids raise kids who view them as banks instead of parents.

I never said he was wrong for attempting to be a father figure. I said he's wrong for not knowing his role in the dynamic of the relationship. The reality is that is not his son. Assuming Future really does what to take part in that child's life it's Russell role to help facilitate that with Ciara or stay out of it all together. You don't need to be best friends but you all need to work together as a unit. That's why alot of people claim they don't want pre-made families. They don't want that type of responsibility or outside people having a vote on their home. Russell didn't get tricked. He went in to his relationship and marriage knowing a child existed, so he accepted the duties better or worse that come with being a step parent. Like it or not dealing with Future Senior is part of the package.

You’re missing the point and just rambling. Again Future has the means to be in his child’s life if he wanted too. Meaning he can travel, he’s not tied down to one location due to career, he c as n have property in Denver and ATL. Future has made a choice.
 
Dudes in here caping for Future when Future don't even cape for his own kids.

The only thing I'm waiting for now is the weird dudes who will say Future should beat up Russ and then get mad when you tell them Future couldn't whip Russ's ass even in his dreams.

I watch dudes gargle Future's nuts on Black Twitter is going to be a sad day if I see you dudes in here acting the same way.

Facts
 
All my boys sounded just like you at one point in their lives. It was me that stopped a few of them from shooting their baby moms, going to jail for inflicted violence on individuals, etc. .. This topic hits more to home than you realize. Literally some of my boys went to hell and back with baby mama drama, from losing jobs, homes, paying child support, having altercations with baby mother boyfriends/ significant others, chicks not letting them see their kids for months even over a yr. Putting nigs through hell to the point they giving up hope and was on fuck it mode and wanted to take actions “violently “.. but who was there taking away guns, giving nigs motivation, telling them karma is real, that there’s light outside of this dark tunnel, it was me. Literally each of those individuals lives switched up and the complete 180 happened and everything worked for the better. In fact that’s how the whole damn convo started on Monday cause 1 of my boys who went through the shit with his babymom during Covid whipped it around my way with his new 6 fig truck fully paid hopped out and started doing a dance cause he won a court battle vs his babymom. He literally gave me the update with an incredible smile and said nig you were completely right about the tides were turning. It just so happened that a few of my other boys was there who went through the shit who also had me be their motivational nig to calm them down during the shit storm with their babymama drama and who are now in a good situation after winning their court battles. They all was laughing , comparing notes, and talking shit about how the tides turned. That’s how the convo of the organization begin and how they was like there needs to be a support group for nigs going through the shit that needs to be informed, educated, motivated, etc… so don’t tell me about false nig there’s tons of individuals that will tell you I pulled them out the shit when there was no hope and when there was nobody else around to help with the mental stress and even physical stress nigs were going through with all the bullshit. You have no idea how many people lives I saved, how many people I stopped from going to jail, etc. that’s why I get crazy love from individuals and why certain individuals will go all out for me if some shit would to present it’s negative self in front of me. I’ve always been the cool nig that makes sure everybody good. That’s mentality, financially, etc



By your own account then your agreeing that it's not fair, and it's not equal... This is what I want to fix.

I'm not trying to debate whether it's plausible, rather making it even.

Does this make sense?
 
By your own account then your agreeing that it's not fair, and it's not equal... This is what I want to fix.

I'm not trying to debate whether it's plausible, rather making it even.

Does this make sense?
Making it even might be a lil harder. But giving dudes the guidance that it’s not hopeless increases their winning percentage. I’m about increasing the odds in someone’s favor if they truly deserve it. Yes the system is corrupt, damn near all financial institutions in america are. Yes I consider the child support system some type of financial institution
 
Making it even might be a lil harder. But giving dudes the guidance that it’s not hopeless increases their winning percentage. I’m about increasing the odds in someone’s favor if they truly deserve it. Yes the system is corrupt, damn near all financial institutions in america are. Yes I consider the child support system some type of financial institution


No!! I refuse that.

We should just lie down and accept this?
No!
I'm sorry.. Enough is enough.
 
There’s laws against stuff like this. In fact I know individuals who literally stopped females from moving to diff states cause they didn’t give the courts permission for her to do so. Learn about the laws and get a good lawyer. I have friends that won full custody of their kids and now make the chicks pay child support even when the guys make more lmaoooo. In fact that was a conversation on Monday amongst a few of my friends who change the game on the court system and have custody of their kids and have the baby mom pay them. We were actually talking about finding a way to create an organization to give nigs hope out here about how the system can work for them. Can’t go into more details but there definitely were talks

^^^^
 
No!! I refuse that.

We should just lie down and accept this?
No!
I'm sorry.. Enough is enough.
You’ve been accepting unfairness all your life in Amerikkka. This is reality. I didn’t say lie down I said increase your odds.. this is the reality of amerikkka. Nothing is truly fair when it comes to black people and the common man. But there are things that have or can increase our favor in this corrupt system.
 
You’ve been accepting unfairness all your life in Amerikkka. This is reality. I didn’t say lie down I said increase your odds.. this is the reality of amerikkka. Nothing is truly fair when it comes to black people and the common man. But there are things that have or can increase our favor in this corrupt system.


You accept it sir.
I will work towards changing it.
 
Are you for or against men parenting equality?

Sounds like we're 100% in agreement! Let's make an actual effort to end this inequality.
I’m frontline in the court system. I’ve had to help many brothers out with custody and paperwork etc etc. I don’t teach none of this stuff to women at all. So I’m all for fathers, theirs just so many X-Factors that happen in court. That’s unpredictable women stick together and no the system way better than men.

At a certain age they can put the kid on the stand. And get the kid to say I don’t want to go over dads house no more. Regardless of the order the baby father no the mother made the kid lie on the stand. Judge then will a therapists for the minor, mother will except play the role.

Come back maybe 6 months later..meanwhile you just got your child taken away until the kid get better. Comeback 6 months and not her says I couldn’t afford to take him to therapy due to work or being sick, or school activities. Judge give her another try by this time the father is pissed. I haven’t seen my kid in 6 months your honor. Well sir will give you 2 hours of supervised visits at a park every other weekend.

Overall I have plenty of stories just like you. And I hate to bring up the dude whole hit the mother in the carry out and the boy shot and killed him. But he also had two daughters as he got killed. NO I DONT AGREE THAT HE HIT THE WOMEN!!
 
I’m frontline in the court system. I’ve had to help many brothers out with custody and paperwork etc etc. I don’t teach none of this stuff to women at all. So I’m all for fathers, theirs just so many X-Factors that happen in court. That’s unpredictable women stick together and no the system way better than men.

At a certain age they can put the kid on the stand. And get the kid to say I don’t want to go over dads house no more. Regardless of the order the baby father no the mother made the kid lie on the stand. Judge then will a therapists for the minor, mother will except play the role.

Come back maybe 6 months later..meanwhile you just got your child taken away until the kid get better. Comeback 6 months and not her says I couldn’t afford to take him to therapy due to work or being sick, or school activities. Judge give her another try by this time the father is pissed. I haven’t seen my kid in 6 months your honor. Well sir will give you 2 hours of supervised visits at a park every other weekend.

Overall I have plenty of stories just like you. And I hate to bring up the dude whole hit the mother in the carry out and the boy shot and killed him. But he also had two daughters as he got killed. NO I DONT AGREE THAT HE HIT THE WOMEN!!



And I love what you are saying.

The first step is, men need to stick together and teach eachother certain things.

The next step is we've got to be vocal about changing the laws that are archaic and unfair.

Do you agree?
 
I know what it is and help motivate others to see that they can increase their odds and they have won

^^^^

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First though regarding this SPECIFIC clip the woman is joking. We as men can't act like we perfect and innocent either. future lied to her hurt her and cheated. How the f*ck we expect her to react?

And I've been in those court rooms and offices a few times too

Father's get treated like extras in the movie. Judges will overwhelming always side with the mother. Kids get manipulated. Men are silenced. Its petty vengeful spiteful.

It's wrong been wrong but we also have to understand what all that stems from.

Go visit a women's shelter foster care etc.

And listen and see what many men do to their wives baby mothers and kids.

Most men go to court, hold on real talk? Most don't show up. Most don't want the kid. Most don't make an effort to get lawyers.

Cause like Tall, I KNOW dudes who FOUGHT for their kids. Got lawyers, statements, etc and got increased custody, etc.

Actually I know quite a few who got full custody

But it is NOT easy but it also isn't impossible or insanely difficult if you educate yourself and do the work.

And quiet is kept?

Every woman isn't a b*tch. Many make comfortable agreements with the father too.

it's a two sided situation that's messy and complicated.

But to act like dudes are all innocent and want their kids is utter bullsh*t.

And to act like there are not many stand up outstanding black singles dads doing a great job is also bullsh*t.
 
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You’re missing the point and just rambling. Again Future has the means to be in his child’s life if he wanted too. Meaning he can travel, he’s not tied down to one location due to career, he c as n have property in Denver and ATL. Future has made a choice.
No. You are missing the point. Their issue is not about money, taking weekend trips or moving. It's about their ability to effectively work together for the benefit of the kid. From what we can see, they can not behave like adults. Future moving doesn't change any of that. You also aren't factoring his other 50 kids who may also be spread out. All three choose to be a part of that situation. It's up to them to be civil and remove whatever personal issues to the side.

You talked about your friend. Do you have personal experience on any level? Do you even have kids? If not, you're really talking out of your ass like most people tend to do in these types of discussions. Just like every non- parent says they'd homeschool their child.
 
No. You are missing the point. Their issue is not about money, taking weekend trips or moving. It's about their ability to effectively work together for the benefit of the kid. From what we can see, they can not behave like adults. Future moving doesn't change any of that. You also aren't factoring his other 50 kids who may also be spread out. All three choose to be a part of that situation. It's up to them to be civil and remove whatever personal issues to the side.

You talked about your friend. Do you have personal experience on any level? Do you even have kids? If not, you're really talking out of your ass like most people tend to do in these types of discussions. Just like every non- parent says they'd homeschool their child.

It is about money in this situation dude said cierra moving across the country…Future has the means where that doesn’t matter like the typical other parent would have. We are talking about THIS situation but you’re giving examples as if it was you and me.

The things you type are what YOU personally believe are examples of coparenting that may not be the case for others.

Yes I have kids I was going to ask you the same.
 
It is about money in this situation dude said cierra moving across the country…Future has the means where that doesn’t matter like the typical other parent would have. We are talking about THIS situation but you’re giving examples as if it was you and me.

The things you type are what YOU personally believe are examples of coparenting that may not be the case for others.

Yes I have kids I was going to ask you the same.
Please keep in mind Kanye bought the house right next door. To be closer to his kids, while women and others not all….said he was stalking her. Like said earlier America isn’t about equality period!
 
Please keep in mind Kanye bought the house right next door. To be closer to his kids, while women and others not all….said he was stalking her. Like said earlier America isn’t about equality period!

Could’ve had something to do with Kanye acting like a stalker? Sending weird messages, video rants, music videos beheading Pete Davison, crying about not wanting a divorce and winning Kim back…….
 
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Didn't listen but Ciara, moves her kids, literally to the farthest place from Atlanta in Washington State, then in Denver. How can someone possibly co-parent when their kids are 3,000 miles away?
If only Future could afford a plane ticket.
 
Are you for or against men parenting equality?

Sounds like we're 100% in agreement! Let's make an actual effort to end this inequality.
Yes, let's make it by law that every child a man fathers MUST spend 50% of their time living with the father and that father has to then fully take care of all his children 50% of the time. Get them to school, get them fed, make sure they do their home work, parent conferences at school, for every single child.
 
It is about money in this situation dude said cierra moving across the country…Future has the means where that doesn’t matter like the typical other parent would have. We are talking about THIS situation but you’re giving examples as if it was you and me.

The things you type are what YOU personally believe are examples of coparenting that may not be the case for others.

Yes I have kids I was going to ask you the same.

The examples are of any co-parenting situation that involves step-parents. To your own point, Future could easily move. That doesn't address the root cause of their problems from what we are able to see.You are ignoring my larger point that they'd likely have issues regardless of where the kid was located.

The person was speaking to co-parenting at a distance. He never mentioned money or the ability to relocate. You brought that into the discussion. I'm taking the initial statement as can you be an effective parent from out of state. Not does Future have the means to relocate. From out of state, you'll hopefully do your best, but you can visit every week and it's not the same as being in state. It literally makes co-parenting harder if it works at all.


I have biological and step child so I'm speaking from that experience. You do the best you can for the best interest of the kid. That is what all parents should aim for and real coparenting means working together. Everyone has their own rules but the key is to avoid bullshit which these people can't seem to do. I'm not pointing a finger at one person but two of the three are definitely responsible and the third may not be helping the situation.
 
Future has what 8 kids.......

He is notoriously absent from most of his kids lives, there's nothing to see here.
Yup. Ciara fucked up having a baby with dude, but Future dont give two fucks bout them kids. None of em. He'd rather rap about drugs, pussy, and Russ being a simp instead of making it happen with his kids. Fuck dude.
 
The examples are of any co-parenting situation that involves step-parents. To your own point, Future could easily move. That doesn't address the root cause of their problems from what we are able to see.You are ignoring my larger point that they'd likely have issues regardless of where the kid was located.

The person was speaking to co-parenting at a distance. He never mentioned money or the ability to relocate. You brought that into the discussion. I'm taking the initial statement as can you be an effective parent from out of state. Not does Future have the means to relocate. From out of state, you'll hopefully do your best, but you can visit every week and it's not the same as being in state. It literally makes co-parenting harder if it works at all.


I have biological and step child so I'm speaking from that experience. You do the best you can for the best interest of the kid. That is what all parents should aim for and real coparenting means working together. Everyone has their own rules but the key is to avoid bullshit which these people can't seem to do. I'm not pointing a finger at one person but two of the three are definitely responsible and the third may not be helping the situation.

At this point and before you’re just typing to type..Caping for Future is another Bgol low point…aka Mr Toxic
 
Dudes in here caping for Future when Future don't even cape for his own kids.

The only thing I'm waiting for now is the weird dudes who will say Future should beat up Russ and then get mad when you tell them Future couldn't whip Russ's ass even in his dreams.

I watch dudes gargle Future's nuts on Black Twitter is going to be a sad day if I see you dudes in here acting the same way.

Future might can't whip Russell's ass, but he commands an army of dumb niggas
 
It speaks volumes the simps that are on this thread condoning fuck shit of what Russell allows and scared to put her in check when she's wrong.
 
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