Brooklyn Nets prep Dwight Howard offer!

deandre is a free agent they have relinquish their rights to him in order to even be in the running for Dwight. Same way we would have to with Kris.

Again we have GSW and Houston pick this year. Also the Clippers said they would be willing to take back Hedo to and give up multiple picks as well??

Otis has options but after december 9 those options will be slim.

that is why he is changing his tune.

before the lockout Otis said this.



he said that in april compare that to what he said today.

Also as David Alridge said.

Ever since Proky has been part of the Nets they have always added cash along with their trades.

Remember the Nets gave the Wizards 3 million to take Yi. We gave Utah two first round picks Devin harris and Favors. Plus 3 million. You don't think Proky won't reach in that check book and add cash along with this trade.

Remember Orlando owners said if Dwight is gone they don't want to spend money.

These are the guys who run otis. Which is why Otis has gone from "I ain't trading Dwight." to "I will do what best for the Orlando Magic organization."

otis sounds like a professional now... it isn't nj or bust... clippers can sign deandre and trade him in a few months, no rules against it...i'm not saying no nets but the nets rn't the only ones who can make a compelling offer especially if it takes dwight out of the east.
 
otis sounds like a professional now... it isn't nj or bust... clippers can sign deandre and trade him in a few months, no rules against it...i'm not saying no nets but the nets rn't the only ones who can make a compelling offer especially if it takes dwight out of the east.

I didn't say it was Nets or bust. I said the offer he has right now he is not going to get with no other team.

you just said it they would have to trade Deandre later.

again that means Orlando a team losing their star player will be adding another pay role on their team. They want to rebuild.

Also DA just brought up. Eric Gordon will be free agent and he has made it no secret he wants to win and unlikely he would resign the Clippers let alone the Magic rebuilding. Brook on the other hand loves Florida. He has a home there during the summer and he loves Disney land. Brook would resign there or PHX suns if traded.

All I said this offer has a limit on which I love. I will be honest what I love about this trade for the Nets they don't accept it by the 9 no one will be offering this again.

this is the only chance for them to get rid of Hedo and take nothing back and free up space.

again Orlando Owners got what they wanted a new arena. They have let it be known if Dwight leaves they want to go into cost cutting. you don't do that by adding contracts.

which is why Otis tune has changed. It's about what his bosses want. Dwight is gone they are going to want the best offer that saves them money
 
I didn't say it was Nets or bust. I said the offer he has right now he is not going to get with no other team.

you just said it they would have to trade Deandre later.

again that means Orlando a team losing their star player will be adding another pay role on their team. They want to rebuild.

Also DA just brought up. Eric Gordon will be free agent and he has made it no secret he wants to win and unlikely he would resign the Clippers let alone the Magic rebuilding. Brook on the other hand loves Florida. He has a home there during the summer and he loves Disney land. Brook would resign there or PHX suns if traded.

All I said this offer has a limit on which I love. I will be honest what I love about this trade for the Nets they don't accept it by the 9 no one will be offering this again.

this is the only chance for them to get rid of Hedo and take nothing back and free up space.

again Orlando Owners got what they wanted a new arena. They have let it be known if Dwight leaves they want to go into cost cutting. you don't do that by adding contracts.

which is why Otis tune has changed. It's about what his bosses want. Dwight is gone they are going to want the best offer that saves them money

you're still ignoring the fact that the clippers is willing to take on gilbert arenas contract too..which saves them from having to use the amnesty clause..with the magics all of a sudden having cap space and multiple draft picks they can build a great team around eric gordon and jordan..I'm sure winning is important to gordon but being the face of a young winning team is equally enticing if not more..
 
you're still ignoring the fact that the clippers is willing to take on gilbert arenas contract too..which saves them from having to use the amnesty clause..with the magics all of a sudden having cap space and multiple draft picks they can build a great team around eric gordon and jordan..I'm sure winning is important to gordon but being the face of a young winning team is equally enticing if not more..

I haven't read that. you are going to have to show me a link.

Gordon comments during the world games is what made the clippers nervous he said he wants to win. same thing Kevin Love said over this summer.

Again I have to see what rumor said they would take back both. I saw that here saying they could.

Now correct me if I'm wrong the Clippers a team how many times has went over the cap is going to go over the cap now??

Again I still give the edge to the Nets again because dwight has been flirting with this team for the longest and he wants to play with deron.

that is something else being annoyed.

as Alex Kennedy Orlando insider said.

Dwight can force himself to the nets.
 
I haven't read that. you are going to have to show me a link.

Gordon comments during the world games is what made the clippers nervous he said he wants to win. same thing Kevin Love said over this summer.

Again I have to see what rumor said they would take back both. I saw that here saying they could.

Now correct me if I'm wrong the Clippers a team how many times has went over the cap is going to go over the cap now??

Again I still give the edge to the Nets again because dwight has been flirting with this team for the longest and he wants to play with deron.

that is something else being annoyed.

as Alex Kennedy Orlando insider said.

Dwight can force himself to the nets.

See below from Chris Broussard's twitter:

Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Clippers will do whatever it takes - outside of trading Blake Griffin - to get Dwight, sources say.

They are currently about $14M under the salary cap (without waving anyone). They can probably afford to take both Turk and Arenas and Dwight and give up the draft picks.

Plus Dwight gets to play with Blake and live in LA.

again i want Dwight to come to brooklyn but I'm just looking at it from a realistic pov..if I was Otis Smith I would rather get this deal done with the clippers where I can get 2 good players instead of one and get rid of both hedo and gilbert without having to use my amnesty clause..a couple of draft picks and the added peace of mind that I dont have to face dwight 4 times a year or in the playoffs..
 
again i want Dwight to come to brooklyn but I'm just looking at it from a realistic pov..if I was Otis Smith I would rather get this deal done with the clippers where I can get 2 good players instead of one and get rid of both hedo and gilbert without having to use my amnesty clause..a couple of draft picks and the added peace of mind that I dont have to face dwight 4 times a year or in the playoffs..

probably and willing is two different things.

again the Nets are willing to take back Hedo.

and more important what did Otis say today?? He said he would first talk with Dwight's agent then when the league permit him too he will talk with Dwight.

Now Dwight this summer name the players he wanted to play with two of them are nets. again they will do the deal that both parties can get what they want.

again I'm looking at this from a realistic point.

I didn't even say this deal will get done. I said this is the best deal he will get. Plus Dwight wants to play Deron. This has been no secret.

Again remember when KG wanted be traded he had refused Boston once he told them to it would take more than Paul Pierce. then they made the trade for jesus and KG gave Boston his blessings.

again Dwight will have some say so. Judging from this summer and everything he said so far he is willing to play in BK.

again no pressure on the Nets the pressure is on Otis. He has a deal that is on the clock. that goes for anyone who has cap space because once december 9 that's it.

Orlando will have to take salaries back
 
One key thing your forgetting remember how Lebron wanted to play with wade and bosh. Melo wanted to play with Amare. KG wanted to play with PP and Jesus.

Dwight and Deron that gives the Nets advantage right there.

Yeah but Otis smith is an asshole he won't care and the clippers won't lose anything since those guys r free agents anyway they could gamble on Dwight without the extension...that would pressure the nets to sign him in the offseason and deron... The nets need this deal more than the magic in that regard.
 
Yeah but Otis smith is an asshole he won't care and the clippers won't lose anything since those guys r free agents anyway they could gamble on Dwight without the extension...that would pressure the nets to sign him in the offseason and deron... The nets need this deal more than the magic in that regard.

Otis Smith is an asshole?? what gave you that thought?? Is he dumb and makes stupid mistakes yes but an asshole?? nawwwwwww you got him confused with someone else.

did you not see his comments today.

he said I will talk to Dwight's agent first then talk to Dwight when the league's allow me too. Again only reason Otis still has his job is because he and Dwight are close and considered each other friends.

Now had he said something like "We are going to make the best move for us not Dwight." then yea I would buy that but he said he wants to get Dwight's thoughts on this.

Same as Denver did.

Same way as Kevin Mchale and the Twolves with KG

Last time we saw an asshole was when the Sixers owner told AI to sit his ass at home and they will let him know when he is traded.

that is the last time we saw someone treat a star player like that.

the nets don't need this deal again this is the beauty of it. this deal has a ticking clock on it. once decemeber 9 comes and goes the Nets will move on.

Billy King said today on WFan he isn't going to repeat Melo. They will either take the deal or they will move on and sign other players

No pressure on the Nets. They were the ones who leaked this deal to make it public.
 
Otis Smith is an asshole?? what gave you that thought?? Is he dumb and makes stupid mistakes yes but an asshole?? nawwwwwww you got him confused with someone else.

did you not see his comments today.

he said I will talk to Dwight's agent first then talk to Dwight when the league's allow me too. Again only reason Otis still has his job is because he and Dwight are close and considered each other friends.

Now had he said something like "We are going to make the best move for us not Dwight." then yea I would buy that but he said he wants to get Dwight's thoughts on this.

Same as Denver did.

Same way as Kevin Mchale and the Twolves with KG

Last time we saw an asshole was when the Sixers owner told AI to sit his ass at home and they will let him know when he is traded.

that is the last time we saw someone treat a star player like that.

the nets don't need this deal again this is the beauty of it. this deal has a ticking clock on it. once decemeber 9 comes and goes the Nets will move on.

Billy King said today on WFan he isn't going to repeat Melo. They will either take the deal or they will move on and sign other players

No pressure on the Nets. They were the ones who leaked this deal to make it public.

otis won't be melo'd thats why he'll be in full asshole mode he knows about deron and dwight doesn't mean he will make it easy long as he gets picks or players back and the other team assumes the risk he'll trade him... dwight would have to literally force his way to nj like melo forced his way to ny he doesn't seem the type.
 
otis won't be melo'd thats why he'll be in full asshole mode he knows about deron and dwight doesn't mean he will make it easy long as he gets picks or players back and the other team assumes the risk he'll trade him... dwight would have to literally force his way to nj like melo forced his way to ny he doesn't seem the type.

Dwight doesn't seem the type you didn't see his comments this summer??? Creed first off Otis already threw up the white flag.

He went from saying he won't trade him till I will if I have to.

second he has said today he will talk with Dwight's agent then Dwight.

again he is going to ask dwight for his input.

an asshole wouldn't ask for input. An asshole would do a move that is in the best interest for the team fuck the player.

Utah owner and GM traded deron and he found out watching sports center. the reason Deron was bullshitting whenever he said he didn't know where he would sign.

They didn't say we will talk to Deron's agent or Deron. We will figure if he wants to stay or this.

That is an asshole move. Otis and Dwight are friends. One thing about Otis he lets his personally relationships effect his business perfect example was Gilbert. He is real close with GA and said during Gilbert problems in Washington if they void his contract he would have a roster spot for him. Then he traded for Gilbert horrible contract and all. Gilbert under perform last year and Otis has went on record saying he wants Stan to start GA if that means trading Jameer.

Full Asshole mode??:lol::lol: Dude is in humble mode right now.

Dwight won't force his way out?? you didn't see what he told Orlando fans a month ago???

"I can't make everyone happy."

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sp...-howard-on-twitter-i-have-to-live-for-me.html

"I have to live for me."

After the interview basically saying he is leaving Orlando, Dwight had fans on the sports radio and social media attacking him. Dwight responded but not with an apology like he did during the summer. This time with a can I live.

SR: Do you think that the drive to represent, on an iconic level, will be a factor in your free agency? Do you see yourself in a much larger market?

DH: There's more you can do in a bigger place. I'm stuck in a tough position because I feel like right now, where I'm at, I've done so much. And I just don't know what else I can do. I can't live for everybody else. I don't know what decision I'm gonna make as of right now. It's been crazy. Everybody wants me to come here, come play here, come to our team, do this. It's a great feeling, though, to be wanted.

SR: You're gone. I can feel it.

DH: The toughest part for me is the city — the people. They've got burgers named after me in Orlando, they've got a Web site saying, "Please stay." I love the people in the city. I've literally sat on the bench with a towel on my head crying, because I feel the passion in the stands. I just think about what's going to be best for what I want to accomplish in my life. And I don't want that door to close on me, wherever that door is. I don't want it to close.

SR: Just don't do it as an hour-long ESPN special. Please.

DH: That's not me.

Read more: http://www.esquire.com/features/man-at-his-best/q-and-a/dwight-howard-interview-1111-2#ixzz1b3Kmx5WL
 
Dwight doesn't seem the type you didn't see his comments this summer??? Creed first off Otis already threw up the white flag.

He went from saying he won't trade him till I will if I have to.

second he has said today he will talk with Dwight's agent then Dwight.

again he is going to ask dwight for his input.

an asshole wouldn't ask for input. An asshole would do a move that is in the best interest for the team fuck the player.

Utah owner and GM traded deron and he found out watching sports center. the reason Deron was bullshitting whenever he said he didn't know where he would sign.

They didn't say we will talk to Deron's agent or Deron. We will figure if he wants to stay or this.

That is an asshole move. Otis and Dwight are friends. One thing about Otis he lets his personally relationships effect his business perfect example was Gilbert. He is real close with GA and said during Gilbert problems in Washington if they void his contract he would have a roster spot for him. Then he traded for Gilbert horrible contract and all. Gilbert under perform last year and Otis has went on record saying he wants Stan to start GA if that means trading Jameer.

Full Asshole mode??:lol::lol: Dude is in humble mode right now.

Dwight won't force his way out?? you didn't see what he told Orlando fans a month ago???

an asshole has too look appealing after a move... den came off as assholes and look at them now no one really wants to fuck with them... otis seems like he's trying to be both good and bad seem fair but be stern... i'm not saying he won't trade to the nets but i am saying he won't make it easy and if another option for his team comes up he'll take it. it won't be melo part 2 but it won't be a nice lets make dwight happy deal either.
 
an asshole has too look appealing after a move... den came off as assholes and look at them now no one really wants to fuck with them... otis seems like he's trying to be both good and bad seem fair but be stern... i'm not saying he won't trade to the nets but i am saying he won't make it easy and if another option for his team comes up he'll take it. it won't be melo part 2 but it won't be a nice lets make dwight happy deal either.

you not making sense Creed

okay this isn't denver because Melo wanted his extension because he knew once the lockout was over that would have hurt him

Carmelo Would Have Lost $5.8M Without Extend-And-Trade

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/216830/Carmelo_Would_Have_Lost_$58M_Without_Extend_And_Trade

with that being said Dwight doesn't have that problem. He didn't give a shit about his extension. Which is why he declined it.

What power does Otis have??? Dwight already showed you he is willing to walk away from money so what and how can he threaten him???

You saying asshole mode his comments today were humble. As someone who finally realized the horrible truth and he is going to have to act accordingly.

This is why he said he will talk with Dwight's agent and then dwight.

Dwight walks for nothing like he is planning they are fucked cap wise and the owners are pissed.

Orlando Owners have let it be known they are not interested in taking on contract they want to save money and want money.
 
you not making sense Creed

okay this isn't denver because Melo wanted his extension because he knew once the lockout was over that would have hurt him



http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/216830/Carmelo_Would_Have_Lost_$58M_Without_Extend_And_Trade

with that being said Dwight doesn't have that problem. He didn't give a shit about his extension. Which is why he declined it.

What power does Otis have??? Dwight already showed you he is willing to walk away from money so what and how can he threaten him???

You saying asshole mode his comments today were humble. As someone who finally realized the horrible truth and he is going to have to act accordingly.

This is why he said he will talk with Dwight's agent and then dwight.

Dwight walks for nothing like he is planning they are fucked cap wise and the owners are pissed.

Orlando Owners have let it be known they are not interested in taking on contract they want to save money and want money.

ur missing what i'm saying..

i think dwight will be traded and likely to the nets buuuut otis has to say things in public to show fans he isn't just gonna bend over to the nets offer. he has too or he shows nothing to ticket buying fans who fear shaq part 2.
i'm just saying he will not make it easy and will move the goal post maybe 4 an extra 1st or more cash, he'll holla at teams like the clips he'll touchbase with the lakers he'll talk to the mavs...he'll create a market and if the nets leave dec 9th he'll find a taker outwest then say i did what was best for the organization. if dwight ends up a net after that is not otis' fault.

besides we know the nets wont leave they r desperate if they hear orlando is close to moving dwight to the clips the nets will jump back into the contest. thats really the only way they keep deron. they just wont say "oh dec 9th no dwight, we're done"
 
Ric Bucher just named the Dallas Mavericks as the likely destination for Dwight Howard..

Marc Stein just said that Otis is really thinking this offer over.

:lol::lol::lol:

Everyone will be saying this or that.

Marc Stein broke the story about the Nets' planned offer for Dwight Howard. Later Wednesday, he told ESPN Radio that he thinks the Magic will soon trade Dwight Howard. And if the Nets offer Brook Lopez, two first round picks and other assets for Howard and Hedo Turkoglu, Stein says the Magic should take it. It's likely the best deal they'll get.

"I think they’re going to trade him now," Stein told Doug Gottlieb, citing Magic GM Otis Smith's comments to the Orlando Sentinel earlier in the day.

Stein dismissed the idea that the Knicks, Clippers or Lakers will offer a better deal than the Nets. "A young center in Brook Lopez and two first round picks AND the Nets willingness to take back Hedo’s contract combined with Orlando’s ability to use the amnesty provision on Gilbert Arenas – Orlando really would have a chance to start off with financial flexibility."

Otis Smith sound humble today and when he said he will do what's best for the Magic Organization :lol::lol::lol: all that tells me is his bosses gave him their blessing.

Remember I said this a year ago.

Orlando Owners said they want cap space picks and young players. I bet any money Nets will offer that along with money.

We will find out by next week what's up though
 
Ric Bucher just named the Dallas Mavericks as the likely destination for Dwight Howard..

and there u go... all u need is a decent offer and an owner like cuban who likes to gamble and will take howard without an extension and boom...they'll prob try to clear cap to try to sign deron in the offseason...

as i said, the nets need this deal more than orlando especially with that new stadium..no howard then lose williams what u open withas ur star atraction? anthony marrow?

there are teams who can't use the amnesty who will take hedo's contract for a package of players just to amnesty him since u can use it at any time and instantly become free agent contenders.

i think the nets were to bold in their move trying to force orlando's hand.
 
and there u go... all u need is a decent offer and an owner like cuban who likes to gamble and will take howard without an extension and boom...they'll prob try to clear cap to try to sign deron in the offseason...

as i said, the nets need this deal more than orlando especially with that new stadium..no howard then lose williams what u open withas ur star atraction? anthony marrow?

there are teams who can't use the amnesty who will take hedo's contract for a package of players just to amnesty him since u can use it at any time and instantly become free agent contenders.

i think the nets were to bold in their move trying to force orlando's hand.

again can Dallas give Orlando the cap space we can.

see you are losing that again.

they would have to take back contracts and Orlando doesn't want that.

that is why after December 9th the nets will be out of it.

what can they do trade players they just signed to Orlando???

Orlando owners do not want added salary to cap what did they do when Shaq left??? hell what did they do when T-mac was traded.

The Nets are not desperate they put this out. This deal has a clock on it. Billy King said today they are not waiting on superstars.

the deal doesn't happening they move on and sign players.

again.

the pressure is Orlando because they know the Nets offer is only good for a limited time after that they will be restricted by their cap.

Again one rule about trading your star you try to free up as much space as possible. It was a reason Denver included Balkman and billups with Melo.

Nets desperate? They put Orlando on the clock. This is basically saying.

"Orlando won't get a better deal from us than this. If they don't do this. We are not getting Dwight and move on."

You not getting that.

People are giving BK and bobby marks props for this offer because now it's in Otis court
 
Marc Stein just said that Otis is really thinking this offer over.

:lol::lol::lol:

Everyone will be saying this or that.



Otis Smith sound humble today and when he said he will do what's best for the Magic Organization :lol::lol::lol: all that tells me is his bosses gave him their blessing.

Remember I said this a year ago.

Orlando Owners said they want cap space picks and young players. I bet any money Nets will offer that along with money.

We will find out by next week what's up though

ur doing what u did during the melo talks... the nets had the best offer but where did melo end up? the best offer isn't always the winning one... look at den if they could they'd take the nets offer b/c now they have jack really... moz hates den and will leave as a free agent in a yr... danilo is probably gone...chandler is gone... felton is gone and they got picks that may not be high.

if a good team makes an offer and otis asks dwight would he consider them he'll say yes..it's not nets or bust hell look at espn, cp3 shut down the boston trade early like at 10am early yet espn is still pushing cp3 to boston...espn once reported lebron has decided to become a knick look how that worked out... they reported melo will be a net again where is he?

otis isn't as powerless as he is being shown to be... if he takes the best offer its the nets hands down but if he doesn't he has options.
 
again can Dallas give Orlando the cap space we can.

see you are losing that again.

they would have to take back contracts and Orlando doesn't want that.

that is why after December 9th the nets will be out of it.

what can they do trade players they just signed to Orlando???

Orlando owners do not want added salary to cap what did they do when Shaq left??? hell what did they do when T-mac was traded.

The Nets are not desperate they put this out. This deal has a clock on it. Billy King said today they are not waiting on superstars.

the deal doesn't happening they move on and sign players.

again.

the pressure is Orlando because they know the Nets offer is only good for a limited time after that they will be restricted by their cap.

Again one rule about trading your star you try to free up as much space as possible. It was a reason Denver included Balkman and billups with Melo.

Nets desperate? They put Orlando on the clock. This is basically saying.

"Orlando won't get a better deal from us than this. If they don't do this. We are not getting Dwight and move on."

You not getting that.

People are giving BK and bobby marks props for this offer because now it's in Otis court

the nets also put out rumors that lebron was offended by donnie walsh meeting him in a wheelchair to the point that lebron's ppl had to let the knicks know it was not the case... the nets involved themselves 4 separate times in a melo deal even tho he did not want to be a net... they r leaking trade offers to force otis' hand so they can secure deron...

u even said proky was in atl for 10 days and may have tampered in russia...

the nets r desperate to keep deron and to change their image and to fill that arena. the moves they make r moves those make out of desperation ... maybe third times the charm but the first 2 backfired in their face they should be stealthy like how they got deron. that was a work of art deal.

we both know if they lose howard they'll lose deron...that reason alone makes them desperate.
 
ur doing what u did during the melo talks... the nets had the best offer but where did melo end up? the best offer isn't always the winning one...
otis isn't as powerless as he is being shown to be... if he takes the best offer its the nets hands down but if he doesn't he has options.

That's the thing about the Mavs, we can resign Tyson & include him in the trade with just as much cash as the Nets can. Plus you get him out the East.
 
the nets also put out rumors that lebron was offended by donnie walsh meeting him in a wheelchair to the point that lebron's ppl had to let the knicks know it was not the case... the nets involved themselves 4 separate times in a melo deal even tho he did not want to be a net... they r leaking trade offers to force otis' hand so they can secure deron...

u even said proky was in atl for 10 days and may have tampered in russia...

the nets r desperate to keep deron and to change their image and to fill that arena. the moves they make r moves those make out of desperation ... maybe third times the charm but the first 2 backfired in their face they should be stealthy like how they got deron. that was a work of art deal.

we both know if they lose howard they'll lose deron...that reason alone makes them desperate.


what I said Melo wanted his extension and he said and I posted the link he would have went to the Nets if he had to.

dwight isn't worry about money. He wants to play in a market and certain players.

Otis doesn't have the power because if he has to take back players he is not clearing cap space. As Marc Stein just said

"A young center in Brook Lopez and two first round picks AND the Nets willingness to take back Hedo’s contract combined with Orlando’s ability to use the amnesty provision on Gilbert Arenas – Orlando really would have a chance to start off with financial flexibility."


This what you are not getting that is what Orlando Owners want if Dwight is moved. I'm not even saying the trade is going to happen. All I'm saying is the same thing Stein is this is the best deal that gives Otis Smith's bosses what they want.

You don't think the Nets didn't hear when it was leaked when they heard what Orlando's Owners said.

Otis Smith came out and he didn't talk bad about the deal or dismiss it. Everyone was shocked at what Otis said.

You said he would be in asshole mode?? :lol::lol: dude was humbled today.

this isn't a desperation move. they know this is their best chance to get dwight. If they don't get dwight now they move and build a team with their cash.

again the nets are looking at it like DA said "this is best deal we are going to offer. Orlando either takes this deal or we move on."

Otis didn't shit on this deal like he did in the past so what does that tell you?? He listening will he take it?? we will find out
 
That's the thing about the Mavs, we can resign Tyson & include him in the trade with just as much cash as the Nets can. Plus you get him out the East.

are you taking back hedo too???? again you are adding salary to the Magic something their Owners are not interested in.

they have been in salary cap hell for the last three years. Again they lose dwight they don't want that to happen
 
are you taking back hedo too???? again you are adding salary to the Magic something their Owners are not interested in.

they have been in salary cap hell for the last three years. Again they lose dwight they don't want that to happen

We only have 3 guys signed for 2012...I'm sure Cuban wouldn't mind that. Taking on salaries have never been an issue for him.

My thing is what is space going to guarantee them? If they're trying to sell...fine, but getting rid of the best big man since Yao to clear cap space for who knows what player sounds good, but isn't clear how it's going to be accomplished.
 
We only have 3 guys signed for 2012...I'm sure Cuban wouldn't mind that. Taking on salaries have never been an issue for him.

My thing is what is space going to guarantee them? If they're trying to sell...fine, but getting rid of the best big man since Yao to clear cap space for who knows what player sounds good, but isn't clear how it's going to be accomplished.

you thinking in basketball terms

DA said it best the owners got their arena. They are not thinking basketball they are thinking $$$$$$$$

Otis Smith said today "I will do what's best for the Magic Organization."

Key word I'm going to do what the bosses tell me to do. They are not worried about conference they want to save money.

Dwight is ready to walk. He turn down his extension knowing he will never see that much money again. Dwight is willing to leave 40 million on the table. What pressure can they apply on dude?? None.

The Mavs have a salary total at just over $60 million, which is over the salary cap. This leaves little room to work with, and 6 players have become free agents that need to be resigned: J.J Barea, Caron Butler, Tyson Chandler, Brian Cardinal, Peja Stojakovic, and DeShawn Stevenson. There is only about $13 million to work with before hitting the luxury tax. With that money, these 6 players may be signed. The Mavs can not afford to target other, higher priced free agents without having to dip into their limited exceptions.

The Mavericks have 13 million to work with and Tyson Chandler's agent Jeff Schwartz has said the starting price for Ty will be 12 million.

again Orlando Owners want cap space and again this deal takes 47 million off their books that's before or after amnesty Gil I gotta recheck.
 
everyone is forgetting u can trade for a player with intent to amnesty him...and have it count once if u didn't use the amnesty b4... otis just has to find a team who will take hedo with the intent to amnesty him for savings... dallas just needs to resign stevenson from that list everyone else isn't that important except maybe barea...but u can use the mle on him...

there are plenty of teams who can trade multiple players to orlando for hedo and those players could be on 2 yr or 1 yr deals but their combined salary equals hedo's they they just amnesty him...then orlando amnesty's gil and lets those players expire.

hell dallas could take on hedo with the intent to amnesty him and get the savings...

there are ways to make moves with this new cba u can use the amnesty rule at any time...any time. thats a fantastic thing its like a trade exception..can u imagine a team under the cap clearing space and taking hedo and amnestying him? double savings plus a huge trade exception.

shit the spurs could jump on that to start clearing space for when tim retires...

if otis is diligent and creative he could make a great trade get assets save cap and not send dwight to the nets

there are options...
 
Nets general manager Billy King denied an ESPN.com report that he was preparing to offer Brook Lopez and two first-round picks to Orlando in hopes of getting Howard to play with Williams.

"I'll go on the record that I haven't talked to Orlando about a trade since February, right before the trade deadline," King said. "I have not had any conversations at all with my good friend Otis (Smith, the Magic general manager).

"So, I don't know where that is coming from."

:rolleyes:
 
Ric Bucher just named the Dallas Mavericks as the likely destination for Dwight Howard..

:cool:

We only have 3 guys signed for 2012...I'm sure Cuban wouldn't mind that. Taking on salaries have never been an issue for him.

My thing is what is space going to guarantee them? If they're trying to sell...fine, but getting rid of the best big man since Yao to clear cap space for who knows what player sounds good, but isn't clear how it's going to be accomplished.

:yes:

Cuban a player in free agency? :itsawrap:

Fuck around and have Dwight and Dirk on the team with cap space? :eek::itsawrap::itsawrap:
 
Take the Clippers out of it :lol::lol::lol:

Sources confirm Howard is not interested in the Clippers. The Clippers many thought would be a dark horse in the "Fight For Dwight" but this remains a two horse race. The Lakers and Nets are Howard preferred choices

Also looks like Otis wants an answer soon.

QUESTION: Of course, the mostly nonsensical trade rumors surrounding Dwight Howard have already begun in earnest. Do you think that Dwight’s pending free agency will be a distraction for him and the team this season? Is that a concern of yours?

OTIS SMITH: ``It’s hard for it to not be a distraction. You have to first figure out the road that he’s travelled in the past and figure out a way to keep the distractions to a minimum. It was a (distraction) a couple of years ago with LeBron (James), and I’m sure it is going to be the same way with Dwight and Chris Paul. If you are going to have one of the best players in the league, this is part of the program and at some point his contract is going to be up and you will have to deal with the matter of what’s next for him.’’

QUESTION: Do you go to Dwight at some point in the next couple of weeks or months and press him for an answer as to his future? Is it an absolute must to know what his intentions are before he becomes a free agent next summer?

OTIS SMITH: ``You have to do what’s in the best interest of your franchise because the future of this franchise is the most important thing at stake here. Dwight has been such a big part of our team and we’ve built around him for seven years. I really hope to get an indication of where he’s going so that our franchise can move forward. It’s tough to do that if we don’t have an inkling of what his plans will be.’’

QUESTION: You were a part of the management team that drafted Dwight, you’ve always had a good relationship with him and you have been around him for seven years now. Do you have a sense at all which way he is leaning as it relates to his future in Orlando?

OTIS SMITH: ``I can’t even venture to guess because it’s still up in the air. Because of the lockout, I haven’t spoken to him since July and there’s been no contact at all. I can’t really guess what he’s thinking right now, but I know he loves Orlando.’’


this is what I was saying Otis is not going dog Dwight out. He will work something out that will work for both sides.

As I said before the clock is ticking. I don't know if he will take this offer but seems like he is interested.

Can't wait till Dec 7
 
What's funny is now that D will hasn't sign an extension with the Nets just yet, Otis Smith needs to make offers for D Will. LoL
 
What's funny is now that D will hasn't sign an extension with the Nets just yet, Otis Smith needs to make offers for D Will. LoL

difference Dwill opted out to make 30 million more than he would by signing an extension.

Dwight turn down his extension knowing he would never see that money again under this new CBA.

any way let me say thank you to CP3.

Chris Paul demanding a trade to the Knicks today was a major blow to Magic. The Magic had a Paul on their wish list of players to acquire to convince Dwight to stay. The Nets Deron Williams said he would opt out of his contract but sources say this is a financial move. Williams can earn 30 million more by re-signing with the Nets. Williams is also on Otis wish list but the Magic lack the pieces to make a trade. Sources before the lockout said Williams prefers a big market and wants to see what Nets can do in free agency.

---The Chicago Bulls have their priorities in order, starting with laying the groundwork for a contract extension for Derrick Rose, according to an ESPN.com report, citing a league source.

Rose's rookie contract expires after the season. He became the youngest MVP in league history last season and will likely get a max extension at the appropriate time comes.

No official offers can be made or signed until Dec. 9, per an NBA memo sent to all teams Tuesday night.

Thanks CP3:yes::yes::yes::yes:
 
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