DownSouthCharlestonBoy said:I hear brothas talking about crime and going well I will only get a few years for what I am doing. What they don't realize is that just by having that record can fuck you up. Hard to find a really good job, have someone rent to you( good places do criminal checks as well as credit now), and if you get pulled over when the cop runs your license and see that you have a record more than likely you will get harrassed and your car tossed.
sirwoodz said:this is from skip gates' documentary about black america, its available at just about any public library for free...but yall cats heard how he said when he got out of prison he was treated like a celebrity? about how folks reject education? we need 2 make some serious changes in our community man...whether or not that will happen is another topic though...
cbm_redux said:I don't care what kind of upbringing you've had, unless a mother fucker is retarded, one would think they'd do some kind of informal cost-benefit analysis and realize that stupid shit like that just isn't worth the risk involved. And yet, the prisons are full of niggas who will tell you of the most nickle and dime harebrained schemes that landed them behind bars for a decades long stretch. I'm almost inclined to believe that these niggas want to be behind bars.
cbm_redux said:Yes, there is a definite unequal application of the law where black males, especially young black males, are concerned. However, niggas also do a lot of dumb shit. Three little teen aged idiots, here in Detroit, just decided to rob a nigga who'd just cashed his tax refund check. Of course, being the stupid niggas they are, they didn't just rob him, they killed him, despite his having begged for his life, and shot his cousin. An interesting wrinkle to this story is that the guy who was killed had just come back from Iraq. Now, being that these criminal masterminds were arrested within days of the shooting, how much leniency do you think they can expect from judge and jury considering the military record of the victim? Here in Michigan, they will be tried as adults and receive natural life. The shooter, who is 15, might do 60 years behind bars before he dies.
These dumb niggas made stupid choices and fucked their lives away, end of story. I grew up in a fucked up neighborhood too, and I never considered doing anything like this. I had plenty of opportunities to do so. Niggas were always trying to talk other niggas into "hitting licks," robbing Wendy's and stupid shit like that. I would just ask these idiots straight up, how much could we possibly get from robbing a Wendy's (especially when it's an inside job and you know the manger has cleaned the place out in advance) split between the four of us and divided by the 20 - 30 years of hard ass time we'll almost certainly get when one of you stupid motherfuckers takes your cut and goes immediately to the mall to blow it all on some conspicuously tacky shit you saw some rapper wearing?
I don't care what kind of upbringing you've had, unless a mother fucker is retarded, one would think they'd do some kind of informal cost-benefit analysis and realize that stupid shit like that just isn't worth the risk involved. And yet, the prisons are full of niggas who will tell you of the most nickle and dime harebrained schemes that landed them behind bars for a decades long stretch. I'm almost inclined to believe that these niggas want to be behind bars.

Laughing Man said:...because they lack the courage, the intellegence and the will to work hard for something more, they just want shit handed to them, and prison hands out three squares a day and a place to stay![]()
...that doesn't just display a lack of courage or intelligence it mostly displays to me a lack of guidance and resources needed to show these cats better since they may not have been exposed to this...now I'm not saying all these cats are innocent or whatever but if we had proper measures in place the jails would not be such a popular place for niggas...

Leroy Soup Nutz said:I think it's much more deeper than that...what you said applies to the criminals that are mostly homeless...what you'll find that most of these criminals lack is guidance and a positive male figure in their life...no father...no uncles...no grandfathers...no men in the community able/willing to step up just mostly looking down on them...I bet if we could get into the psychology of it...we'd see that those who rotate in/out of jail are just looking to fill that void of male companionship...and that void is so huge it sometimes borders on or crosses the line of homosexuality and we know that shit runs rampant in jail/prison...the shit is disgusting when you have young Black men wanting to be in a place like this...and it's nothing to get tossed in jail now...dude said 75% of the inmates in the jail in this vid are there for drug related crimes......that doesn't just display a lack of courage or intelligence it mostly displays to me a lack of guidance and resources needed to show these cats better since they may not have been exposed to this...now I'm not saying all these cats are innocent or whatever but if we had proper measures in place the jails would not be such a popular place for niggas...
Alot of homeless blakcs wanna be in jail just for food and warmth.Mistah__Mafioso said:You'd be surprised at the high number of learning-disabled niggas in there with intelligence levels befitting a 3rd and 4th grader. And yes, some have become institutionalized and actually DO want to be in prison for one reason or another. These are facts that I am very aware of...
moblack said:This video is one of the reasons why I want to get out of Education.

kayanation said:It's sad that you are exactly what is needed but the road is so rough ......![]()
Leroy Soup Nutz said:I think it's much more deeper than that...what you said applies to the criminals that are mostly homeless...what you'll find that most of these criminals lack is guidance and a positive male figure in their life...no father...no uncles...no grandfathers...no men in the community able/willing to step up just mostly looking down on them...I bet if we could get into the psychology of it...we'd see that those who rotate in/out of jail are just looking to fill that void of male companionship...and that void is so huge it sometimes borders on or crosses the line of homosexuality and we know that shit runs rampant in jail/prison...the shit is disgusting when you have young Black men wanting to be in a place like this...and it's nothing to get tossed in jail now...dude said 75% of the inmates in the jail in this vid are there for drug related crimes......that doesn't just display a lack of courage or intelligence it mostly displays to me a lack of guidance and resources needed to show these cats better since they may not have been exposed to this...now I'm not saying all these cats are innocent or whatever but if we had proper measures in place the jails would not be such a popular place for niggas...
Mistah__Mafioso said:When I was a practicing Social Worker a couple of years ago I was naive and had similar views and idealistic outlooks as yours, but not anymore. I woke up to reality after much experience dealing with niggas and realize that many are just prone to criminality and will not do right to save their own damn lives; regardless of family background.
Also, many of those sorry muthafukas do not take advantage of jail and outreach programs and are not deterred at the thought of reoffending and returning to prison. I've seen too much Larry, and I'm not buying your simplistic "lack of positive male figure" BS...
Leroy Soup Nutz said:They don't need weak, scary role models doing it for a paycheck...they just add to the problem...
moblack said:Man shut your dumb ass up. You don't even know my situation so don't speak. Working at a Title 1 school where your boss doesn't think you have a discipline problem takes a toll on you. At my school we have low TAKS scores, AYP list, and also we're on the list for Cheating on state test. We also have a drop out rate high as fuck as well. I have a perticular student who had pulled a razer on me. I got the weapon reported it to my principal and he did nothing. The same student has repeatedly threatened me , and also cursed out the prinicpal in front of other students and he still hasn't been removed from the school. His brother is tied with him for offenses. Just last week his brother had a fight in my room oh did I forget the kid took a punch at me. This was right after the prinicpal had left my room talking about some other related things. Heck the student cursed out the police and walked away from him. This happens to every teacher at my school and I've see the APs threatened. I teach Special Ed at my school and my kids don' t have an understanding of a social concept of what school is supposed to be. One thing is to teach, but just survival in a classroom isn't what I signed up for. Until you walk in my shoes don't judge me on what I'm going through. In the past 3 weeks I've gotten 2 new students who've just come from the Texas Youth Authority and another one of my students who just received a robbery charged from stolen auto parts. One of his co defendents took a 4 year deal already so I know it was something serious. Education in the inner city black schools has gone to garbage.
moblack said:Man shut your dumb ass up. You don't even know my situation so don't speak. Working at a Title 1 school where your boss doesn't think you have a discipline problem takes a toll on you. At my school we have low TAKS scores, AYP list, and also we're on the list for Cheating on state test. We also have a drop out rate high as fuck as well. I have a perticular student who had pulled a razer on me. I got the weapon reported it to my principal and he did nothing. The same student has repeatedly threatened me , and also cursed out the prinicpal in front of other students and he still hasn't been removed from the school. His brother is tied with him for offenses. Just last week his brother had a fight in my room oh did I forget the kid took a punch at me. This was right after the prinicpal had left my room talking about some other related things. Heck the student cursed out the police and walked away from him. This happens to every teacher at my school and I've see the APs threatened. I teach Special Ed at my school and my kids don' t have an understanding of a social concept of what school is supposed to be. One thing is to teach, but just survival in a classroom isn't what I signed up for. Until you walk in my shoes don't judge me on what I'm going through. In the past 3 weeks I've gotten 2 new students who've just come from the Texas Youth Authority and another one of my students who just received a robbery charged from stolen auto parts. One of his co defendents took a 4 year deal already so I know it was something serious. Education in the inner city black schools has gone to garbage.
Leroy Soup Nutz said:@ moblack...do you really want to help young Black men or did you just hook up with the job cause you wanted a check (not a good one but a check is still a check)...to be fair it sounds like you are working in a high school in a bad area...imo if you want to help these "at-risk" children the earlier you get at them the better...that's why I chose to work in an elementary school...but if you are just in it cause you just graduated from school and you were just looking to jump in to a quick job then no matter what level of school you teach at you will always have problems dealing with the kids...

