Bernie Sanders fans...Its time to give it up. He just got destroyed!

It's a wrap for Sanders-no way he can break through the delgate count. Black people want what they know (good or bad), and we as a "collective" people just don't think economics first. The voting shows what people prefer. Just the way it is.

Back to the issues according to Clinton PT II

Well he still has a lot of money so I hope he stays in and continues to speak on what needs to be done in this country...
 
Might very well be true. Bernie could get in there and be great, or he could get in there and completely fuck up. It's a crapshoot. I'm more concerned with who nominates justices for the court more than anything, so I'm comfortable with the kind of justices either would pick. All the rest.... I just don't know.



And Hillary will do both, this big picture nonsense has to stop because black folks are not a part of the big picture in Amerikkka. Black people will vote for Hillary and then complain when we see she's not doing a damn thing for us. The only people that will benefit from Hillary are white women, because at the end of the day that's who she is going to look out for. She says she wants to be the "small business president" and there are a lot of white women who have small businesses.
 
Black people will vote for Hillary and then complain when we see she's not doing a damn thing for us.

They said the same thing about Obama.

The only people that will benefit from Hillary are white women,

They also said the ONLY people who will benefit from Obama will be black people

Black people will vote for Hillary and then complain when we see she's not doing a damn thing for us.

I'm going to try this again. What EXACTLY do you want her to do for us and us alone?
 
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This^^



No, we're not "bamboozled" by a old white woman who calls us "super Predators", and takes money from private for profit prisons that HillBilly filled to the brim with our people. Who has CCA and Geo Group Private prison lobbyists working in their campaign???



Conservatives love low turn out, Progressives love high turn out, HRC loves the current turnout...... message?
The same low turn out thats helping her now will walk Trump right into the White House in Nov.





Since when in history have we failed to cut our own throat as a people? We excel at that shit!



Wall Street and the whole GOP is too! We're basically handing them the election in Nov. by delivering a candidate that polls so close that they can steal it from her and us. Ask Presidents Gore and Kerry.



:lol::lol::lol:



Yeah, unfortunately we're that bad. :smh:



:smh::smh:



Social media is the only thing that got Bernie this far. there was basically a corporate media blackout on his campaign until he started drawing record crowds too big to ignore.



Too Much Church and White Jesus "turn the other cheek" mental slave chains. Thats why Faggot Ass Hoover said the Black Panthers was the greatest danger to America. They we're breaking us away from that crap and into self sufficiency.



I think its not because white millennials "didnt get theirs", its more that they know the stories of how well their parents and grand parents did under FDR's "New Deal" and want that for themselves. They voted for Barack because they thought he would be Black FDR but didnt come back to vote in the mid terms to keep republicans out. Now they see an opportunity to have a do-over and with someone who understands that the other side cant be worked with, it must be eliminated and replaced with majority Democrats. Black People should have learned the same lessons but instead we left the Brotha blowing in the breeze, and are now blaming him for not being a King, maybe electing a Queen will work. (We just dont learn from our mistakes as a group.)



If you vote for your self cause you did well, and to hell with your brotha's and sista's then yes, you are a Sellout!
If you support a woman that calls you a "super predators that need to be brought to heel" like a wel trained dog, and fills the jails with your people cause you escaped being caught up in the system then you are either uninformed, or if you know and still co-sign that fuckery then yes you are a coon!
"Black Berners" are not supporting him because he's a Jew, we're voting for our own best interests (what a concept) which include strong economy, end of private for profit prisons, federal oversight on corrupt killer cops, universal health care that takes Obama Care, and makes it cheaper and better, end of NAFTA, CAFTA, and stopping TPP, Infrastructure spending that brings good union paying jobs back to America, and nominating a candidate that polls way better in the General Election against the Fuhrer than (low Nov. turn out) HRC, all of which positively affects Black People.
Ive laid out some of my reasons why Im with Bernie, Whats your reasons for supporting Hillary? loyalty to a brand name? or do you like status quo or worse... President Trump?



Its embarrassing just like Trump supporters interviewed on the streets being read quotes from Hitler and Mussolini, and thinking it was a good thing that Trump said. We are living in the "Idiocracy" that always precedes Fascism!
I'm taking all bets...anyone who thinks trump will win the general election...let's do it
 
They said the same thing about Obama.



They also said the ONLY people who will benefit from Obama will be black people



I'm going to try this again. What EXACTLY do you want her to do for us and us alone?
1 & 2 are a damn lie, and FYI black people are at the bottom of the totem pole so of course Barack was never going to do anything for us. As for #3 Outside of fixing the public school systems in the black communities and reparations there's nothing she can do for us, and you know those things i just mentioned will never be fixed. Guess what 4 years from now we will be in this exact same spot no matter who's elected, so go ahead and keep stumping for Hillary if you want to but it'll get you nowhere.
 
First....if someone from the civil rights era was suddenly campaigning for Trump you damn right I'd ignore what they did 50 yrs ago.

Sanders gave up on talking to or reaching out to any Black voters in diverse states. That's not some impression that's a FACT. So why would I give all that weight to marching 50 yrs ago when dude is actively ignoring Black people RIGHT NOW.

OK lets see... He didnt speak to us = Bad
But............... She and she Husband physically and economically fucked us over = absolute mindless loyalty and please please please let me us help you fuck us over again ??
Got it! :cheers:



So it's time to stop paying attention to John Lewis and James Clyburn because they both did an about face to support Clinton.

And Sanders didn't stop talking to Black people he stopped campaigning in states after it was clear he was going to lose. He spoke to the black people in those states and they chose not to listen and responded with their great admiration and relationship with the Clinton's.

But you cats get real sensitive with these make believe slights.

Sanders said this about Obama so fuck him when half this board including Obama supporters have said the same thing but at the same time ignoring what both Bill and Hillary have said about Obama.

We have all said that Obama has been weak and ineffective with Wall Street proven by not one of them being taken to trial.

At this point not one cop who has killed an unarmed black person has been charged by the DOJ.

So has he been weak and ineffective in some areas ? without a doubt yes.. Will he go down as one of the best presidents ever ? again yes.

And some of have said that Sanders can't win but he is forcing Clinton to the left. Well that is the same thing Sanders said when he suggested Obama be primaried.

But mofokrs want to be butt hurt and overlook that he voted with Obama most of the time.

So when it comes to their respective histories and they platform on ideas that will benefit black people. When it comes to that and Hillary's total package the voters are not woke with this undying loyalty.

And these people aren't saying Sanders can't win

Hillary is the lesser of two evils

Anybody but the GOP

They are saying she is great and has been great for black people. That they trust her....


Youre making too much sense to be on a BGOL thread!
MODs ban this guy! He's reducing the level of ignorance here and we cant have that!
 
1 & 2 are a damn lie, and FYI black people are at the bottom of the totem pole so of course Barack was never going to do anything for us. As for #3 Outside of fixing the public school systems in the black communities and reparations there's nothing she can do for us, and you know those things i just mentioned will never be fixed. Guess what 4 years from now we will be in this exact same spot no matter who's elected, so go ahead and keep stumping for Hillary if you want to but it'll get you nowhere.

Stumping for Hillary? LMAO. I'm stumping for the idea that if she wins she's be Hell of a lot better than any Republican ala Cruz or Trump.

The ACA didn't happen under Obama? Of course it did, so you didn't get what you wanted, but a lot of other people did and you mad? Hillary will at least push the damn ACA further (if not at least) keep it in place to allow it to take hold. You guys aren't looking at the bigger picture. Everyone wants something. If you don't get what YOU want then NOTHING happened. Grow up.
 
just for the record yall, Clinton didnt fill prisons to the brim with Black folks during the 90's. i showed the numbers, though that honesty in sentencing law was fucked up, and disproportionately affected Black people, it was the states outside of that federal law locking Black folks away.

thats just facts plain and simple.
 
just for the record yall, Clinton didnt fill prisons to the brim with Black folks during the 90's. i showed the numbers, though that honesty in sentencing law was fucked up, and disproportionately affected Black people, it was the states outside of that federal law locking Black folks away.

thats just facts plain and simple.

police hired with money Clinton sent them to lock them up in prisons built with money Clinton sent them after agreeing to implement the honesty in sentencing guidelines at their state levels.

:yes::yes::yes::yes:
 
Black folks have been under attack with Obama

Black folks will be under attack with Hillary

Black folks will be under attack with Trump.

We are fucked and we've been fucked no matter who wins.

We literally have no options, but to strategically withhold our vote or strap up for guerrilla warfare against racism/white supremacy.

But nobody wants those options.:dunno:
 
I actually hope Bernie runs as an independent, even if it syphons votes away from Hillary, just to fuck the Democratic Party for screwing Bernie from having more debates and anointing Clinton before the Primary season even began. I fucking hate Debbie Wasserman Shultz.

Probably going to hold my nose and vote for Clinton, or I might just write in Sanders name for the fuck of it.

I'm not even letting this shit get to me anymore. We all lived through 8 years of Raegan and Bush, we'll do the same if it's 4-8 of Trump or Clinton.
 
From an outsiders point of view.

You guys have a real shitty group of candidates to pick from.

in both parties.

its a case of who is not as bad,as oppose to who is better.
 
police hired with money Clinton sent them to lock them up in prisons built with money Clinton sent them after agreeing to implement the honesty in sentencing guidelines at their state levels.

:yes::yes::yes::yes:
funny thing is that after 4 states...JUST FOUR of them got that money, the incarceration of Black people DECLINED.

so, only 4 states took that money, nnd then fewer brothers went to jail.

again, CLinton's law was some supremem bullshit, but he did not fill prisons with Black folks.
 
funny thing is that after 4 states...JUST FOUR of them got that money, the incarceration of Black people DECLINED.

so, only 4 states took that money, nnd then fewer brothers went to jail.

again, CLinton's law was some supremem bullshit, but he did not fill prisons with Black folks.


you talk about the broad view.... how many people ended going to prison because of his welfare reform that created more poverty.

how many of those people that were turned out without any training or jobs committed crimes that ended up with them in the system ?

manufacturing job started to leave under Clinton due to NAFTA...how many people lost their jobs and couldn't find new ones and committed crimes and ended up in the system .

there were residual effects of Clinton's policies that were long ranging and long reaching.

he claims his deregulation of the banking and investment companies didn't have any effect leading to the financial collapse but others disagree.

the economy in the 1990s wasn't nearly as good for African-Americans as many perceived it to be, as Melissa Lacewell-Perry found in a 2005 study. Moreover, the poorest black Americans grew worse off.

"As Clinton performed blackness, real black people got poorer," she wrote in 2008.

And while the unemployment rate fell throughout the 1990s, "the jobless rate among black men in their 20s who didn't have a college degree rose to its highest level ever," Alexander writes. Why? High incarceration rates.
 
Wait until there are actual Republican attack ads run against him. Wait until the country hears 24 hours a day 7 days a week he's going to raise their taxes.

Wait until there are attack ads ran against Hillary....

She is still under and active federal investigation buy the DOJ and FBI, I am not talking about the GOP witch hunt.

They can go after Sanders with fear tactics and boogey man words....They will go after Hillary on her actual words and actions..

Either way it isn't gonna be pretty.... does Hillary have an advantage in a dirty campaign ? yes she does cause she is experienced in slinging dirt

Now you got the DNC with their bullshit ...
 
just for the record yall, Clinton didnt fill prisons to the brim with Black folks during the 90's. i showed the numbers, though that honesty in sentencing law was fucked up, and disproportionately affected Black people, it was the states outside of that federal law locking Black folks away.

thats just facts plain and simple.

He did allow his state to become the midwest distribution point for the dope Escobar was bringing into the US & this continues to get overlooked. The Clinton's haven't answered for Mena yet.
 
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just for the record yall, Clinton didnt fill prisons to the brim with Black folks during the 90's. i showed the numbers, though that honesty in sentencing law was fucked up, and disproportionately affected Black people, it was the states outside of that federal law locking Black folks away.

thats just facts plain and simple.

- 3 strikes law
- trying youth as adults
- $10billion, putting 100k more police on the streets
- another $10billion, to build new prisons
-welfare reform
- expanded the "war on drugs" even though he campaigned saying drug addicts should get treatment, not prison.
- more us citizens were locked up under him than any other sitting us president... or world leader... ever...

Clintons presidency set the stage for the mass incarceration problem we have now that disproportionally impacts black families.
 
- 3 strikes law
- trying youth as adults
- $10billion, putting 100k more police on the streets
- another $10billion, to build new prisons
-welfare reform
- expanded the "war on drugs" even though he campaigned saying drug addicts should get treatment, not prison.
- more us citizens were locked up under him than any other sitting us president... or world leader... ever...

Clintons presidency set the stage for the mass incarceration problem we have now that disproportionally impacts black families.
Bill Clinton is running again?
 
you talk about the broad view.... how many people ended going to prison because of his welfare reform that created more poverty.

how many of those people that were turned out without any training or jobs committed crimes that ended up with them in the system ?

manufacturing job started to leave under Clinton due to NAFTA...how many people lost their jobs and couldn't find new ones and committed crimes and ended up in the system .

there were residual effects of Clinton's policies that were long ranging and long reaching.

he claims his deregulation of the banking and investment companies didn't have any effect leading to the financial collapse but others disagree.
none of what you posted addresses my response.

i posted the actual numbers associated with that law being enacted.

based on FACTS, Clinton cannot be held responsible for the mass incarceration of Black people.



- 3 strikes law
- trying youth as adults
- $10billion, putting 100k more police on the streets
- another $10billion, to build new prisons
-welfare reform
- expanded the "war on drugs" even though he campaigned saying drug addicts should get treatment, not prison.
- more us citizens were locked up under him than any other sitting us president... or world leader... ever...

Clintons presidency set the stage for the mass incarceration problem we have now that disproportionally impacts black families
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my brother, this is a blatant lie.

i already posted the numbers.

Clinton's law did not set the stage for something that was already occurring, AND incarceration for Black people was already IN DECLINE, and CONTINUED to decline after 1994.

nobody can dispute this FACT, so why do you all keep stating this lie?

im not even caping for Clinton, but bullshit is bullshit.
 
So it's time to stop paying attention to John Lewis and James Clyburn because they both did an about face to support Clinton.

And Sanders didn't stop talking to Black people he stopped campaigning in states after it was clear he was going to lose. He spoke to the black people in those states and they chose not to listen and responded with their great admiration and relationship with the Clinton's.



They are saying she is great and has been great for black people. That they trust her....



They'll be calling her an "honorary black person" like they did with her husband soon
forgetting how he bitch smacked Sista Souljah on a national stage (when she was at the height of her fame)

All she gotta do is put on a dashiki on a black talk show or play the bongos or some shit and she's in there
 
The many costs of the ’94 crime bill


Twenty years ago this month, President Clinton signed into law theOmnibus Crime Bill, amid much self-congratulation by politicians.

Today, however, most observers on the Left and Right are critical of many parts of the bill, and have concluded that the public didn’t get as much public safety as $33 billion should have bought.


The bill offered $9.7 billion to the states for prison construction, setting off a frenzy of prison-building. This was a fool’s bargain. The feds provided one-time money for bricks and mortar, but they attached strings to the funding, requiring the states to severely increase sentences, even for those inmates who could be safely released.

This caused the number of state prisoners to soar, increasing by more than 45 percent, and the number in federal prisons more than doubled. The number of inmates in American prisons and jails grew from 1.01 million in 1994 to 2.3 million today. Roughly one out of every 100 adults in the U.S. is behind bars as you read this.


The bill’s proponents claimed that new prison cells were needed to protect us from violent criminals: “The worst of the worst.” But they pulled a bait-and-switch. Many of the new prison beds are not packed with violent predators. Instead, they are filled with nonviolent offenders.

We need prisons, but we are overusing them. Prisons are meant for people we are afraid of, but many of the inmates are there because they merely broke the rules. We are merely mad at them, not afraid of them. It makes no sense to put someone who writes bad checks in prison with murderers. Which inmate do you think will have the bigger impact on the other — the check-bouncer or the murderer?

The federal money for prison construction was one-time only, but the costs of operating the prisons continue to this day. The money for guards, supplies, utilities, food, etc. comes out of the states’ budgets, siphoning off money that could go to schools, roads and hospitals. And the Crime Bill didn’t provide a dime for programs that prepare the inmates to return to their communities. No wonder so many offenders return to prison within three years.

The states are saddled with the cost of these prisons, and it is busting their budgets. Prisons are the second fastest growing items in state budgets, second only to Medicaid.

But there is good news. Across the country, conservatives have been working to reverse the fiscal and human costs of the Crime Bill. Right on Crime, a partnership between the American Conservative Union Foundation (ACUF), the Texas Public Policy Foundation (TPPF) and Prison Fellowship Ministries (PFM), has been working with leaders in several states to cut prison costs by expanding drug courts, increasing drug treatment and mental health care and limiting the use of costly prison beds to dangerous and serious repeat offenders. These reforms have saved billions, and crime rates are down.


 
They'll be calling her an "honorary black person" like they did with her husband soon
forgetting how he bitch smacked Sista Souljah on a national stage (when she was at the height of her fame)

All she gotta do is put on a dashiki on a black talk show or play the bongos or some shit and she's in there

Yet he defends his Klan buddy as just a country boy and Hillary called him her mentor...

Not to mention how he talked to Clyburn..

yeah a great friend who is full of respect for black people.
 
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