BCS better Screw OSU

:rolleyes:

Kansas has one loss...Who other than OSU and Hawai'i can say they have less than one loss?

And since you don't want Kansas in there, who would take their place in the BCS bowl game?

I just want a +1 system and for the rankings (Harris and Coaches) not to be released until the 5th week of the season.

FUCK KANSAS!!!! they will get NO RESPECT from the coach's poll. none.

see my post above. all of their wins are against a bunch of teams-NONE OF WHICH WILL BE RANKED IN THE TOP 25 I THE COUNTRY.

they have played no one and you want them in a bcs bowl?

fuck that. let them play in the "bitch team" bowl vs osu.
 
FUCK KANSAS!!!! they will get NO RESPECT from the coach's poll. none.

see my post above. all of their wins are against a bunch of teams-NONE OF WHICH WILL BE RANKED IN THE TOP 25 I THE COUNTRY.

they have played no one and you want them in a bcs bowl?

fuck that. let them play in the "bitch team" bowl vs osu.

:dunno: bout that....They've been in the top 5 in the coaches poll since week 10 I think...They won't fall lower than 7 or 8 in that poll. They'd be in the top 10 at least in every poll. Can't be like that and not be in a BCS bowl game.

My thing is that you can't fault them for who they play unless you know that they backed out of a game that would've been tougher for them. Hard to look those up. I give props to teams that can play tough OOC games, because that doesn't always happen every year.
 
:dunno: bout that....They've been in the top 5 in the coaches poll since week 10 I think...They won't fall lower than 7 or 8 in that poll. They'd be in the top 10 at least in every poll. Can't be like that and not be in a BCS bowl game.

My thing is that you can't fault them for who they play unless you know that they backed out of a game that would've been tougher for them. Hard to look those up. I give props to teams that can play tough OOC games, because that doesn't always happen every year.

fuck kansas
fuck kansas
fuck kansas.

they are worst than ohio state for scheduling all those softies. it should HURT them instead of helping them.
 
Hawaii 11-0,

Ohio State 11-1

Kansas 11-1

These are the only teams that should get a chance at the BCS title game. Record speaks for itself. I for one think Hawaii can play anyone and have a good chance of winning. There are alot of 10-2 teams that have lost to unranked teams and Hawii just rolled the table and shoke off every challenge that was put infront of them.

I dont want to hear about Georgia they lost 2 games to unranked teams.
09/01 Oklahoma St W 35-14
09/08 S Carolina L 16-12
09/15 W Carolina W 45-16
09/22 at #16 Alabama W 26-23
09/29 Ole Miss W 45-17
10/06 at Tennessee L 35-14
10/13 at Vanderbilt W 20-17
10/27 at #11 Florida W 42-30
11/03 Troy W 44-34
11/10 #18 Auburn W 45-20
11/17 #23 Kentucky W 24-13
11/24 at Ga Tech W 31-17

I dont want to hear about LSU, they lost 2 games and one team was unranked also.
08/30 at Miss St W 45-0
09/08 #9 Va Tech W 48-7
09/15 M Tenn St W 44-0
09/22 #12 S Carolina W 28-16
09/29 at Tulane W 34-9
10/06 #9 Florida W 28-24
10/13 at #17 Kentucky L 43-37
10/20 #17 Auburn W 30-24
11/03 at #17 Alabama W 41-34
11/10 La Tech W 58-10
11/17 at Ole Miss W 41-24
11/23 Arkansas L 50-48
12/01 #14 Tennessee W 21-14

I dont want to hear USC also they lost 2 games and one team was unranked and the just barely cleared a few other teams that were unranked
09/01 Idaho W 38-10
09/15 at #14 Nebraska W 49-31
09/22 Wash St W 47-14
09/29 at Washington W 27-24
10/06 Stanford L 24-23
10/13 Arizona W 20-13
10/20 at N Dame W 38-0
10/27 at #5 Oregon L 24-17
11/03 Oregon St W 24-3
11/10 at #24 California W 24-17
11/22 at #6 Arizona St W 44-24
12/01 UCLA W 24-7

The BCS is complete and utter bullshit. I want to know what will happen if Hawii gets a BCS game, wins and end up being 13-0 and one of the 11-1 teams Ohio State and Kansas plays a 10-2 team Like Georgia, USC or LSU and lets say the 10-2 team wins how the hell can they feel they are national champs or how the hell can the voters vote for them as national champs with Hawii at 13-0.

Fuck the bullshit we need the top 8 teams playing in a playoff as this would bring the bullshit to a conclussion. We might not realy know who is 1 from 8 right now but they sure as hell would play it out to find out.
 
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Hawaii 11-0,

Ohio State 11-1

Kansas 11-1

These are the only teams that should get a chance at the BCS title game. Record speaks for itself.

The BCS is complete and utter bullshit. I want to know what will happen if Hawii gets a BCS game, wins and end up being 13-0 and one of the 11-1 teams Ohio State and Kansas plays a 10-2 team Like Georgia, USC or LSU and lets say the 10-2 team wins how the hell can they feel they are national champs or how the hell can the voters vote for them as national champs with Hawii at 13-0.

Fuck the bullshit we need the top 8 teams playing in a playoff as this would bring the bullshit to a conclussion. We might not realy know who is 1 from 8 right now but they sure as hell would play it out to find out.

what did you say?

kansas?
hawaii?
ohio state?

give me a MOTHERFUCKING break!!!

have you ever heard of this small little thing called, "STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE?"

kansas: all of their wins have been against teams that are NOT in the top 25.
ohio state: wasn't their strength of schedule ranked 116 out of 119 college teams?
hawaii: you have an argument there. they deserve a shot, but since these bowls are about $$$, it won't fly. sorry.

a plan has already been submitted for this.

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http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=dw-playoff112707&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

check this thread for discussion:
http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=213307
 
Blackmouth, here are the teams that Kansas played

09/01 C Michigan W 52-7
09/08 SE Louisiana W 62-0
09/15 Toledo W 45-13
09/22 Fla Int'l W 55-3
10/06 at #24 Kansas St W 30-24
10/13 Baylor W 58-10
10/20 at Colorado W 19-14
10/27 at Texas A&M W 19-11
11/03 Nebraska W 76-39
11/10 at Oklahoma St W 43-28
11/17 Iowa St W 45-7
11/24 #4 Missouri L 36-28

I am not defending Kansas or Ohio State. I am just saying that if there is no playoff system then the only thing you can go on is games won or loss. This polling on who is the best team is to biased towards who people like and what games people watch. I am sure 50% of the polesters did not see the Hawii game so how the hell can they vote on who is the best.

Now if you follow some of your statements of strength of games played and so forth and who you beat. I will show you how dumb the BCS polling is. Back in the 2000 BCS National Championship game Oklahoma played against FSU and Oklahoma won. Now FSU got to play in this National Championship game with an 11-1 record and beat out Miami with the same 11-1 and Miami beat FSU in a heads up game that year. So Miami and FSU had the same record at the end of the year before the National Championship game beating FSU but the Computers and polesters put FSU in the National Championship game. It is all bullshit and who is popular.

I am 100% sure these mothafuckurs are watching the ratings of games during the season and somehow make choices on BSC games more for the money than the true National Championship.

My point is if there is no playoff then record should be the final judge as a team can not know 4-6 years ahead if the teams they picked to play during the season will give them a strong strength of schedule as things change from year to year.
 
Sagarin ratings are out guys.......This is one of the six computers that ties into the BCS

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt07.htm

that is some bull shit...he has
OU
OSU
KSU
UF
Va Tech
LSU
WVU
USC
MIZZOU
UGA.....
in that order how the hell can ur number one and number two teams fall to 7 and 9, while your number 3 moves up to 2 and your number 4 falls to 10, ywt your number 7 team moves up to four .....come on..they fucking the shit out of UGA with no vasoline....
 
im just glad OSU doesnt have to play a spread offense... whew.

its not OSUs fault, its WVUs and Mizzou. To be honest, as an OSU fan, a better Natl Champ. game would be LSU and USC.... but it aint gonna happen.
 
All of this Big-10 hatred is puzzling to say the least. What the fuck did the Big-10 ever do to y'all? Why are y'all so mad? Were y'all not hugged a lot as children? Did one of the girls in y'alls pre-school touch you in your "special place"? The SEC still has the current national champion, and is clearly the best conference in all of college football.

Why tha fuck are y'all so mad? It's the holiday season for Christ's sake. Get some spiked egg nog in you and quit crying like y'all never won anything or like y'all never get any respect. You SEC fans are like the story of the woman with the two Virginia Hams under her arms, but she's going around town crying because she's got no bread.

Y'all remind me of that spoiled little brat from Willy Wonka:

"I want an oompa-loompa daddy and I want one NOW!!!" :D

:lol::lol::lol: TONY SAID IT BEST. STOP BITCHIN SEC FANS. AND BY THE WAY MY BUCKEYES ARE GOING BACK TO THE NC AGAIN.
 
:dance: Don't hate on us cause we are in a rebuilding year and about to win the national title. And don't blame us because teams cant keep up with us. The schedule we played was set Four or five years ago teams knew they were going to play us. Its not our fault they couldn't keep there programs in top form like we did. Hate all you want we'll be in the big dance:dance:


Dont blame us for winning blame yourselves for losing.:roflmao:


:groupwave
 
Here's another one....but I think this cat is just a stat geek...nothing affiliated....

but if he has the formula down that the bcs uses........gonna be a lot of pissed off people
and this is with LSU being ranked #2 in the polls.

http://www.tellshowbcs.com/index.html

His shit is pointless...based on the fact that LSU was ranked higher then Va-tech going into yesterdays game and then LSU beat Va-tech by 31 earlier this year..
 
Hawaii 11-0,

Ohio State 11-1

Kansas 11-1

These are the only teams that should get a chance at the BCS title game. Record speaks for itself. I for one think Hawaii can play anyone and have a good chance of winning. There are alot of 10-2 teams that have lost to unranked teams and Hawii just rolled the table and shoke off every challenge that was put infront of them.

I dont want to hear about Georgia they lost 2 games to unranked teams.
09/01 Oklahoma St W 35-14
09/08 S Carolina L 16-12
09/15 W Carolina W 45-16
09/22 at #16 Alabama W 26-23
09/29 Ole Miss W 45-17
10/06 at Tennessee L 35-14
10/13 at Vanderbilt W 20-17
10/27 at #11 Florida W 42-30
11/03 Troy W 44-34
11/10 #18 Auburn W 45-20
11/17 #23 Kentucky W 24-13
11/24 at Ga Tech W 31-17

I dont want to hear about LSU, they lost 2 games and one team was unranked also.
08/30 at Miss St W 45-0
09/08 #9 Va Tech W 48-7
09/15 M Tenn St W 44-0
09/22 #12 S Carolina W 28-16
09/29 at Tulane W 34-9
10/06 #9 Florida W 28-24
10/13 at #17 Kentucky L 43-37
10/20 #17 Auburn W 30-24
11/03 at #17 Alabama W 41-34
11/10 La Tech W 58-10
11/17 at Ole Miss W 41-24
11/23 Arkansas L 50-48
12/01 #14 Tennessee W 21-14

I dont want to hear USC also they lost 2 games and one team was unranked and the just barely cleared a few other teams that were unranked
09/01 Idaho W 38-10
09/15 at #14 Nebraska W 49-31
09/22 Wash St W 47-14
09/29 at Washington W 27-24
10/06 Stanford L 24-23
10/13 Arizona W 20-13
10/20 at N Dame W 38-0
10/27 at #5 Oregon L 24-17
11/03 Oregon St W 24-3
11/10 at #24 California W 24-17
11/22 at #6 Arizona St W 44-24
12/01 UCLA W 24-7

The BCS is complete and utter bullshit. I want to know what will happen if Hawii gets a BCS game, wins and end up being 13-0 and one of the 11-1 teams Ohio State and Kansas plays a 10-2 team Like Georgia, USC or LSU and lets say the 10-2 team wins how the hell can they feel they are national champs or how the hell can the voters vote for them as national champs with Hawii at 13-0.

Fuck the bullshit we need the top 8 teams playing in a playoff as this would bring the bullshit to a conclussion. We might not realy know who is 1 from 8 right now but they sure as hell would play it out to find out.

Funny you didnt post Hawaii's schedule. If they got into the title game, you would see teams scheduling Nortrhern Colorado and Charleston Southern every year. Even if it was a top 8 playoff, Hawaii shouldnt be in it.
 
georgia doesnt have a chance in hell

i keep telling these cats that. again, georgia is not going to the fuckin national championship game.

i predict

OSU VS. LSU

I DON'T LIKE OSU, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. There's not a cot dayum thing we can do about it but sit back, wait, watch the announcement and then here complaints all over the country of why their fuckin team didn't make it.
 
My point is if there is no playoff then record should be the final judge as a team can not know 4-6 years ahead if the teams they picked to play during the season will give them a strong strength of schedule as things change from year to year.

well, strength of schedule should have MORE influence in the final say-so. that means that you schedule good or average teams NOW-with the hopes that they'll remain consistent and good while you play them.

for example, instead of scheduling kent state, akron, etc., schedule south carolina, va tech, and miss. state from the SEC.

that is some bull shit.

in that order how the hell can ur number one and number two teams fall to 7 and 9, while your number 3 moves up to 2 and your number 4 falls to 10, ywt your number 7 team moves up to four .....come on..they fucking the shit out of UGA with no vasoline....

they (media) wants osu in the title game. let's hope they show up and at least compete this time.

im just glad OSU doesnt have to play a spread offense... whew.

its not OSUs fault, its WVUs and Mizzou. To be honest, as an OSU fan, a better Natl Champ. game would be LSU and USC.... but it aint gonna happen.

:eek: an ohio state fan that actually makes some sense. i don't agree with usc, but i do agree that osu does NOT belong there. usc only played 2 teams with winning records. osu had one of the weakest SOS in the country.

lsu vs ou vs va tech vs osu in a 4 team playoff. fuck it.

:lol::lol::lol: TONY SAID IT BEST. STOP BITCHIN SEC FANS. AND BY THE WAY MY BUCKEYES ARE GOING BACK TO THE NC AGAIN.

let's hope they show-up this year.

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most popular bumper sticker in the SEC following last year's slaughter.

:smh: you mufuckas better play a decent game this year.

:dance: Don't hate on us cause we are in a rebuilding year and about to win the national title. And don't blame us because teams cant keep up with us. The schedule we played was set Four or five years ago teams knew they were going to play us. Its not our fault they couldn't keep there programs in top form like we did. Hate all you want we'll be in the big dance:dance:


Dont blame us for winning blame yourselves for losing.:roflmao:


:groupwave

i blame y'all for NOT playing anyone out of conference.
i blame y'all for NOT voting for a playoff system. (see the big 10 commish).
i blame y'all for NOT having to play a conf. championship game.
i laugh at y'all for making up excuses like, "we were off too long between games" when you get hammered in a bowl.
i blame y'all for doing this shit year-in/year-out.
i blame y'all for making big 10 football seem like a fucking joke in last year's national title game and in the rose bowl.

that shit was horrible. the two top teams got embarrassed royally. :smh::smh::smh:

His shit is pointless...based on the fact that LSU was ranked higher then Va-tech going into yesterdays game and then LSU beat Va-tech by 31 earlier this year..

correction: lsu beat va tech by 41 pts, not 31.
 
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well, strength of schedule should have MORE influence in the final say-so. that means that you schedule good or average teams NOW-with the hopes that they'll remain consistent and good while you play them.

for example, instead of scheduling kent state, akron, etc., schedule south carolina, va tech, and miss. state from the SEC.



they (media) wants osu in the title game. let's hope they show up and at least compete this time.



:eek: an ohio state fan that actually makes some sense. i don't agree with usc, but i do agree that osu does NOT belong there. usc only played 2 teams with winning records. osu had one of the weakest SOS in the country.

lsu vs ou vs va tech vs osu in a 4 team playoff. fuck it.



let's hope they show-up this year.

353883476_f93a028c68.jpg


most popular bumper sticker in the SEC following last year's slaughter.

:smh: you mufuckas better play a decent game this year.



i blame y'all for NOT playing anyone out of conference.
i blame y'all for NOT voting for a playoff system. (see the big 10 commish).
i blame y'all for NOT having to play a conf. championship game.
i laugh at y'all for making up excuses like, "we were off too long between games" when you get hammered in a bowl.
i blame y'all for doing this shit year-in/year-out.
i blame y'all for making big 10 football seem like a fucking joke in last year's national title game and in the rose bowl.

that shit was horrible. the two top teams got embarrassed royally. :smh::smh::smh:

Conference championship games are nothing but selfish money grabs. We dont want one and we dont need one in the Big Ten. Most of these matchups are rematches anyway. Why would I want to see OSU play Wisconsin again? Ohio State played and beat good teams and has one loss.
 
Funny you didnt post Hawaii's schedule. If they got into the title game, you would see teams scheduling Nortrhern Colorado and Charleston Southern every year. Even if it was a top 8 playoff, Hawaii shouldnt be in it.


Well I did not post Hawiis schedule because they did not loose any games, but here it is.

09/02 N Colorado W 63-6
09/08 at La Tech W 45-44
09/15 at UNLV W 49-14
09/23 C Southern W 66-10
09/29 at Idaho W 48-20
10/07 Utah St W 52-37
10/12 at San Jose St W 42-35
10/28 New Mexico St W 50-13
11/10 Fresno St W 37-30
11/16 at Nevada W 28-26
11/23 #19 Boise St W 39-27
12/01 Washington W 35-28

That being said I did not post Kansas and Ohio States schedule either. My point was these teams that people want in the BCS NC game have lost to unranked teams and have 2 loses. Example GA, OSU, USC and LSU.

Hawii has not lost to any team ranked or unranked. Now the way the games have gone this year it looks like colege foot ball is more even between teams as far as skill thats why there were so many teams getting their asses beat by complete underdogs who should not have come close to beating them.

If Hawii is not in the BCS NC game it is all crap
 
Conference championship games are nothing but selfish money grabs. We dont want one and we dont need one in the Big Ten. Most of these matchups are rematches anyway. Why would I want to see OSU play Wisconsin again? Ohio State played and beat good teams and has one loss.

the BCS is a selfish money grab. conference championships are used to DETERMINE A CONFERENCE CHAMPION. in women's sports, all other men's sports, pro sports, european leagues, etc., AN OUTRIGHT CHAMPION IS DETERMINED FROM PLAY IN THE RESPECTIVE CONFERENCES.

why is the big 10 so opposed to playing a conference championship game? why? add more teams. make the conference more competitive or DON'T USE YOUR, "we haven't played in 50 days" excuse.

*it's sunday. so i'm gonna pray again for a playoff system to end all this easy scheduling, polling, and bullshit.

Hawii has not lost to any team ranked or unranked. Now the way the games have gone this year it looks like colege foot ball is more even between teams as far as skill thats why there were so many teams getting their asses beat by complete underdogs who should not have come close to beating them.

If Hawii is not in the BCS NC game it is all crap

where were you when auburn went undefeated a few years ago? i wonder if you would state their case this vehemently.

STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE. period. end of story. live with it.

both ohio state AND hawaii do NOT belong based on their SOS.

vote for a playoff system and let the teams decide this shit on the field. that's the ONLY right answer.
 
the BCS is a selfish money grab. conference championships are used to DETERMINE A CONFERENCE CHAMPION. in women's sports, all other men's sports, pro sports, european leagues, etc., AN OUTRIGHT CHAMPION IS DETERMINED FROM PLAY IN THE RESPECTIVE CONFERENCES.

why is the big 10 so opposed to playing a conference championship game? why? add more teams. make the conference more competitive or DON'T USE YOUR, "we haven't played in 50 days" excuse.

*it's sunday. so i'm gonna pray again for a playoff system to end all this easy scheduling, polling, and bullshit.

Blackmouth, since you have been shitting on peoples pick for the BCS NC game. I want you to tell us who you feel should be in the BCS NC game. The reason I ask for your opinion is because I have not seen you state who you feel is deserving to be there.
 
where were you when auburn went undefeated a few years ago? i wonder if you would state their case this vehemently.

Good question. but I am 100% sure Auburn was not the only undefeated team. USC was undeafeated to and Oklahoma was undeafeated also going into the Orange bowl for the NC. They could only pick 2 out of the 3. This was in the 2005 season and USC beat Oklahoma and they were ranked number 1. So they became the National Champs. Auburn ended the season as the number 2 ranked team.

Hawii is the only undeafeated team!
 
Well I did not post Hawiis schedule because they did not loose any games, but here it is.

09/02 N Colorado W 63-6
09/08 at La Tech W 45-44
09/15 at UNLV W 49-14
09/23 C Southern W 66-10
09/29 at Idaho W 48-20
10/07 Utah St W 52-37
10/12 at San Jose St W 42-35
10/28 New Mexico St W 50-13
11/10 Fresno St W 37-30
11/16 at Nevada W 28-26
11/23 #19 Boise St W 39-27
12/01 Washington W 35-28

That being said I did not post Kansas and Ohio States schedule either. My point was these teams that people want in the BCS NC game have lost to unranked teams and have 2 loses. Example GA, OSU, USC and LSU.

Hawii has not lost to any team ranked or unranked. Now the way the games have gone this year it looks like college football is more even between teams as far as skill thats why there were so many teams getting their asses beat by complete underdogs who should not have come close to beating them.

If Hawii is not in the BCS NC game it is all crap

Co sign. The BCS is so full of shit I can't stand it. The "haves" will always have and the "have nots" will always get held down. It's not Hawaii's fault that they have that schedule. Blame the big schools if you want to blame someone. The big schools know that if they played a team like Hawaii that its a no win situation. If they were to beat Hawaii people would say that they’re suppose to beat Hawaii. If Hawaii were to beat them, then everyone would say, “They should have never played them”.

The way it's set up now, the big schools know what they have and ain’t trying to share the wealth. The argument that Hawaii can't play with the big boys is full of shit. How in the fuck does anyone know? Look at this season and how many unranked teams beat ranked teams. Stanford beat USC this year... who in the fuck would have thought that would have happened? On paper that should have never happened.

My biggest beef with the BCS is it's set up for the "haves". At the start of every basketball season EVERY D-I team has the SAME chance of winning a title as the next team. In D-I football the Hawaii’s and Boise States of the world don't have that same chance as the USCs and LSUs even when they do everything that is asked of them (go undefeated)... and that to me as a former D-I athlete... is bullshit
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All your teams had to do was win Ohio State didn't beat anyone infront of them they beat themselves next year will be someone else's lucky year deal with it
 
All your teams had to do was win Ohio State didn't beat anyone infront of them they beat themselves next year will be someone else's lucky year deal with it

I am not a Hawii fan or Ohio State fan.

I am a proud Miami Hurricanes fan. 12-0 or 0-12 there is no band wagon jumping from me.
 
i hope OSU brings there A-game because LSU is going to stomp a hole in them and make the big ten look like a high school conference compared to the sec
 
Co sign. The BCS is so full of shit I can't stand it. The "haves" will always have and the "have nots" will always get held down. It's not Hawaii's fault that they have that schedule. Blame the big schools if you want to blame someone. The big schools know that if they played a team like Hawaii that its a no win situation. If they were to beat Hawaii people would say that they’re suppose to beat Hawaii. If Hawaii were to beat them, then everyone would say, “They should have never played them”.

The way it's set up now, the big schools know what they have and ain’t trying to share the wealth. The argument that Hawaii can't play with the big boys is full of shit. How in the fuck does anyone know? Look at this season and how many unranked teams beat ranked teams. Stanford beat USC this year... who in the fuck would have thought that would have happened? On paper that should have never happened.

My biggest beef with the BCS is it's set up for the "haves". At the start of every basketball season EVERY D-I team has the SAME chance of winning a title as the next team. In D-I football the Hawaii’s and Boise States of the world don't have that same chance as the USCs and LSUs even when they do everything that is asked of them (go undefeated)... and that to me as a former D-I athlete... is bullshit
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:yes: been like that for decades, fam...BCS, Bowl Alliance, Bowl Coalition...Call it what you want, but it will be this way until they can construct an efficient playoff system in the next 5 to 10 years.
 
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