Avengers: Endgame (2019) Discussion Thread (SPOILERS)

[Louis Koo]

that rat is the real MVP LOL!

????

 

[Gemini]

Every Avengers: Endgame Easter Egg


Avengers: Endgame - Ending Explained
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[babydaddy]

nah i heard she wasn't snapped, setting up GOTG3. the original Gamora died, so she couldn't have been snapped.

Why she couldn't have been snapped? Supposedly everything was sent back that came with thanos, but we'll have to see what happens in GOTG3. Looks like they filling her spot with thor, atleast for the moment if she still alive. She might have ran off with nebula somewhere.

 

[tallblacknyc]

I disagree with the last part

If there was a way to bring back loved ones you gotta do it

If they die cause you allowed evil back to exist... Than your selfishness ruined others existence... It's the saving your love 1 and sacrificing millions of other lives theory... Thanos : ungrateful bastards

 

[babydaddy]

????

The rat brought ant man back lol.

 

[Louis Koo]

Peter Parker is 20+ yrs old still in highschool... 5 yrs passed and yet they return back like it's 5 yrs ago

yea, the assumption is everyone got dusted in high school

 

[tallblacknyc]

????

The 1 who pushed the buttons to allow ant man to return

 

[ViCiouS]

i aint that big of a comic book reader, but the next monster movie will be Secret Wars with The beyonder. Does Galactus even appear in the Beyonder Secret Wars story arc?

 

[Gemini]

 

[babydaddy]

Man I cant wait to watch that battle in 4k......

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

That's why thanos sat down b4 he turned to dust... He was like you ungrateful bastards juss reset negativity back in the universe... The reality is you bein don't deserve my service... I seen the sunset, I had my Dr sebi diet I allowed peace for 5 yrs, fuck it time to have my internal peace in the dust world

If there was another way it'd make sense to do it I wouldn't be good with losing loved ones


But also he was noble
He did it
He left everyone alone

And even destroyed the stones so nobody could use them for power

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

If they die cause you allowed evil back to exist... Than your selfishness ruined others existence... It's the saving your love 1 and sacrificing millions of other lives theory... Thanos : ungrateful bastards

He was wrong about it though as far as that goes

Loss is too much for intelligent beings to bare

 

[Gemini]

The reaction for Robert Downey Jr.

 

[Louis Koo]

she be looking like a fucking dyke. no emotions when i saw this scene.

 

[Gemini]

 

[Louis Koo]

These are the moments people came to see...

Not watch Capt listen to some dude talk about his date with another dude.

what? did i miss this line? was this when Black Widow was getting updates through the line-up of holograms?

 

[slewdem100]

Alright, Im going IN...

This movie was VERY disappointing for more reasons than I can't explain in a single post but Ill try to touch on my major gripes briefly:

1) Shit was dragging its ass off for a "Comic Book/Super Hero" Movie, especially in comparison to IW. Outside of the first Thanos mission the first almost 1/3 of the movie was heros in plain clothes sitting around talking. Trying to invoke "drama" when they could have been filling in critical gaps in continuity.

2) They completely Shitted on the Hulk! You build him up in all of his movies as "The Strongest Avenger" that they take special care to control or he could cause mass destruction. Then they neuter him in favor of that bitch ass Mark Ruffalo. Hulk gets his ass handed to him in Ragnorok, gets his ass handed to him royally in Infinity War, and doesnt come out the rest of the movie. Now in the Endgame he is the size of the hulk with moist ass Mark Ruffalo's voice and personality and parodies himself in the past as soft. He does NOTHING Hulk-like, the only real HULK we got was in the past...horrible. No Hulk vs Thanos, No Hulk vs Cull Obsidian, he literally did nothing but be banner in a hulk costume.

3) Thor was a joke...it literally gave me flashbacks of the Madarin from Iron Man 3. His entire arc was to build him up to learn to be the King of Asgard, by learning lessons, maturing and becoming a successor and evolution of Odin. Instead, we get no real growth from him after losing everything, he decides to hand the throne to Valkyrie and be a goofball with the Guardians. AND he nearly killed Thanos while he had the Gauntlet with all the stones in IW, kills the old weakened Thanos in Present day easily....but gets handled by 9 years younger Thanos without the gauntlet or any stones and Thor had Mjolnir AND Storm Breaker and his unlocked potential???? FOH.

4) They CONSTANTLY go against the rules they set in this universe! They have always said that only beings of extraordinary powers can brandish an infinity stone, let alone all of them. They then say that in order hold and use all of the infinity stones a special device in the infinity gauntlet needed to be made by the Dwarves which need special metal and forging techniques to make, we even see the mold or the prototype in IW. Now despite establishing that Iron Man can just use his human-made nanotech to hold and use the stones!?!? WTF? The gauntlet allowed Thanos to safely have the stones and use them without it taking a toll on him. Using them all at once was the thing that the gauntlet couldn't contain and thus fried Thanos. Furthermore when they finally get the stones that say that Hulk is the only one capable of taking the strain of snap let alone putting the stones together period, and you see him struggle just to get it on with all the power withering his arm. How in the blue fuck was Tony able to even put the stones in his suit without exploding let alone having time and energy to snap. Also, how do any of them know how to use the stones!!??!?

Also, they have shown the time stone to have the ability to rewind time in general or on specific things. We have seen it in action in Dr. Strange, AND IW when Thanos used it to rewind vision and take the stone. So where the fuck was strange when Tony was dying? He could have easily rewound Starks body and injuries without effecting his actions in the snap.

5) Left SOOO many plotholes and questions!

• What happened to Loki? If he deviated from that timeline then the tesseract never goes back to Asgard and thus never ends up with Thanos.
  
• What did Stark actually snap? Just to end Thanos and all his crew? or to put them back where they came from?
  
• How come Captain Marvel whom is fueled by getting hit or touched by energy gets knocked seemingly out of the movie with just one hit from the power stone?
  
• How the fuck did Cap become worthy to wield Mjolnir?? and I know the theory about him keeping the Bucky-Stark secret was the thing that was holding him back, but thats bullshit...also how does he know how to use this new founded power??
• Where did cap get a second shield?
• How did Cap put the Soul Stone back and NOT have a scene with Red Skull?
• What happened to Gamora?
• What was Thanos sword made of that it breaks vibranium?
• So every planet in space has Earth-like oxygen? You need a suit and air to breath while moving through the quantum realm, but when on Morag or Vormir, or Titan, its just like earth?

Things I liked...
The Capt story was good like the way they let him live
Action scenes were fire, the final battle was epic!
Liked revisiting the past movies/characters

Not gonna lie...I didnt like the way the Hulk was neutered either...I was a Hulk and SpiderMan guy way back when I read comics....saw the movie late last night and was drowsy during parts of the first half...will see it again of course...battle scene was brilliant...loved the handling of the Avenger deaths and the way Cap was allowed to go out on his own terms...Thor was hilarious and funny Thor works better than serious Thor...any way, got to setup my second viewing

 

[tallblacknyc]

If there was another way it'd make sense to do it I wouldn't be good with losing loved ones


But also he was noble
He did it
He left everyone alone

And even destroyed the stones so nobody could use them for power

If your love ones didn't make the cut it was for a reason... That's what people not getting... The dusted are the problems of the universe... There was no peace when they were there but now that they're gone it's peace... Thanos voice: everybody want universal peace but aren't willing to sacrifice anything to get it... Thanos was a prophet.. Juss like most prophet the world wasn't ready for their knowledge and killed him when he was trying to change the universe for the better... Thanos was right ungrateful bastards

 

[DjMorpheus]

I read an article about what would happen if this were to really happen...

The article made a good point. Thanos killed half of ALL LIVING CREATURES. We only think of humans when we think of this event happening... You're talking humans, plants and animals... If you kill off some animals or plants they may go extinct.... Or, you may not have enough predators to control a population of another animal which in turn might overrun an area and throw off the balance of the ecosystem...

The example they gave was how the grey wolves were eradicated from Yellowstone park, then the elk population exploded and they in turn destroyed the grasslands... Other animals depended on that vegetation and they suffered and they suffered tremendously because of the elk overeating

And when they brought up the bee population and their pollination efforts it would get worse...

In conclusion they said Thanos doesn't make things better at all

https://amp.businessinsider.com/avengers-infinity-war-thanos-killed-half-all-life-earth-endangered-species-2019-4#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s

Yeah but if half the grey wolves and half the elk's is dust then it balances out.

Shit is logical when talking about animals but when you get to people...Thanos called that shit "dispassionate and fair" but his own people told him to fuck off behind that shit. They was like fuck you we die then we die of natural disaster but not by your hand. Intelligent beings ain't gon be wit that shit.

 

[Louis Koo]

My initial reaction to this movie is, it kinda of sucks. Just the whole thing being jump started by a fucking rat. In an abandoned parking garage. I wouldn't mind going to see this movie again. My opinion maybe scewed because of one asshole. In the movie theater, who felt it necessary to make comments. After EVERY SINGLE FUCKING THING that went on in the movie. Whoever cried watching this shit has no hope in life.

Good things about this movie I liked
Fat Thor
Thor Welding Mjolnir and Stormbreaker
CapTain America Scenes Subplot
Cap welding Mjolnir
AntMan
Everybody playing dynoman with the infinity gauntlet and the end, saving the day at the end

Bad things I hated about this movie
Annoying ass know it all, who was talking through out the whole movie.
Getting the rat to start the chain of events, to help the avengers.

wtf is this rat thing? i must've missed that shit. the whole first 20 minutes was the trailers.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Dr strange aka Mr line them up was somewhere on the sideline smiling... " I told you I'll sacrifice your life to protect the time stone"... Strange lined Tony up

 

[tallblacknyc]

wtf is this rat thing? i must've missed that shit. the whole first 20 minutes was the trailers.

It literally says San Francisco on the screen and less than a min later it shows a rat running around in ant man van.. He steps on a machine pressing buttons and antman gets shot out the machine

 

[gdatruth]

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[Louis Koo]

So was there a predetermined intermission for everyone that watched the movie? Right around the time Tony and Cap went back to 1970.

lol, that part was boring as fuck. knew they were gonna cast a fat black woman to rat on Cap and Tony.

i took a piss when they introduced Thor. that shit was corny.

 

[DJCandle]

not sure if Paul Bettany was in it, but "Jarvis" was in the 1970s scene when Tony's father was getting in the car.

Right. He's from the SHIELD spinoff series it seems

 

[Louis Koo]

It literally says San Francisco on the screen and less than a min later it shows a rat running around in ant man van.. He steps on a machine pressing buttons and antman gets shot out the machine

oh, yea. totally forgot. he lands in some warehouse full of garbage.

 

[chrislee]

Saw the movie today. Probably the best Marvel film to date. Everything about the film was great & out of left field. The off Thanos during the first act, Thor becomes comic relief getting fat, Bruce & Hulk are one body one mind now as rumors predicted, the elevator scene from Winter Soldier spoof, Cap wielding Mojnir, The moment when everyone comes back and joins the fight.

Nit pick issues I've had were couldn't Cap pull a Tony & Natasha from a previous time line into the future like Gamora.

Gonna miss the angry Hulk. Professor Hulk ain't the same.

Don't know if the New Avengers can hold a candle to the old guard. Its just won't be the same.

 

[Big Tex]

Okay I'm not sure if anyone else has answered this or not but, quick question.....
Doesn't present day Thanos (plus his minions) dying in the future, fuck up the events of a lot of different movies ???

Here is the sequence.....
Present day Thanos talks about getting Ronan to steal the power stone, so this is essentially the beginning of Guardians/Galaxy movie
But Thanos (along with Nebula, Gamora, & his army) jump forward in time when they see future Nebulas (#2) message
Then they all got snapped & died in the future, which means

Even with the Infinity stones put back, the issue now is,
Present day Thanos isn't there anymore, so some of the shit from other movies going forward (after Guardians #1) doesn't even happen
Like the end credit scene of Guardians where Thanos says "I'll get the stones myself" (because dude time jumped forward & is dead now)
So basically the whole entire Infinity War movie does not happen at all (technically)

As posted in video in this thread, every time they go back and change something, it doesn’t affect this timeline but creates a new timeline.

So technically the question to ask is since Thanos traveled ahead in time, this should have created a new timeline and the events of this timeline are what played out.

Which means there should be a timeline right after Hulk’s snap and before Thanos traveled forward where all the dusted are back and everyone is happy.

 

[babydaddy]

The ant playing drums might as well freed ant man from the quantum realm lol.

 

[TimRock]

When they flashback o the 70s and see Peggy, she mentions the name "Braddock".

 

[Louis Koo]

what's interesting is Rhodey didnt mention Dragon Ball Z when he fired that list of time travel movies

 

[tallblacknyc]

The ant playing drums might as well freed ant man from the quantum realm lol.

wouldve made more sense

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

If your love ones didn't make the cut it was for a reason... That's what people not getting... The dusted are the problems of the universe... There was no peace when they were there but now that they're gone it's peace... Thanos voice: everybody want universal peace but aren't willing to sacrifice anything to get it... Thanos was a prophet.. Juss like most prophet the world wasn't ready for their knowledge and killed him when he was trying to change the universe for the better... Thanos was right ungrateful bastards

That's not true
It was random
Nebula was good but shuri and black panther were bad for the universe?
It was completely random half alive half not

 

[$moneyPit$]

ok....I liked the movie but was disappointed by a few things, How they dumbed down some of the most powerful male characters the hulk and thor to usher In more girl power revolution shit. Also after seeing the way It ended, It made sense knowing you had certain actors that had expiring contracts with disney, also I remember reading articles about them taking the MCU In a different direction. Which meant phasing out certain things.

 

[ShortyCumStain]

Falcon need his ass whooped for that bullshit ass beard.