Are Single BLK Mothers DESTROYING their sons?

no matter how you shake it it still takes TWO people to make a baby.
Again, forget all the half a fag/hermaphrodite all "genders are the same" bullshit they've been piping down your brain! Throughout history, it has always been the role of a woman to carefully choose the father of her children. I mean, how hard can it be, these days we have birth control and morning-after pills to mop up unwanted spills. Make me wonder, are you trying to tell me not only they cannot control what goes in between their legs, they are also incapable of controlling what comes out? Come on dog, you got to think better of them.
 
soooo..be more like china?

By law, single women in China have the right to reproduce. Children born out of wedlock are also legally entitled to enjoy the same rights as other children and are protected against discrimination.

But the law is widely ignored. “Discrimination is everywhere,” says Liang.

According to Xin Lingyan, a lawyer at Jingxiang Law Firm in Beijing, authorities regularly disregard the current legislation when it comes to children born to unwed mothers. “Local governments often don’t enforce the laws and regulations,” she said.

Liang was 19 when she found out she was pregnant. Her race car-driver boyfriend had cheated on her multiple times, and they had already broken up. After finding out about the pregnancy, he wanted nothing to do with the baby, instead telling Liang she could sell one of his race cars and keep the money to pay for the birth.

For the first seven months of her pregnancy, Liang lived in the nearby city of Shenzhen, a tech hub bordering Hong Kong.

Liang says if she had stayed in Guangzhou, her father would have forced her to get an abortion — a common pressure unmarried mothers face, as the traditional belief that only married couples should have children still dominates Chinese society.

“I don’t think I should beg someone to marry me just because I’m having his child,” says Liang.

Liang’s son was 5 when she applied for his birth certificate. Liang hoped to obtain his hukou before he started school. Back then, the staff at the family planning office told Liang she would need a marriage certificate and information about the father, neither of which Liang could provide. And because Liang’s ex-boyfriend didn’t want to be involved, she couldn’t ask him for help.

But in 2007, there was no such flexibility. The Guangzhou Municipal Health Bureau refused to process a birth certificate for Liang’s son, and the authorities were immutable in the face of her protests. Liang had one last resort: cash. “They solved the problem as soon as they took my money,” she says.

With the new birth certificate in hand, Liang went to the local family planning office. Before she could apply for her son’s hukou, she had to pay a fine called the “social maintenance fee” — the same fine people were charged for illegally having more than one child under the one-child policy.

Searching for an Absentee Father


Chen Xiaoman moved to Shanghai more than a decade ago after leaving her native Qingdao, a coastal city in China’s eastern Shandong province.

While living in Shanghai, the 37-year-old had a relationship with a local man, but when she became pregnant she decided to keep her daughter’s existence a secret.

“I knew he wouldn’t be responsible,” Chen explains. “He refused to pay alimony to his ex-wife and didn’t want to look after their child.”

When her daughter Miao Miao was born in August 2009, Chen used personal connections to smooth the awkward process of acquiring her birth certificate without the father’s input. But when she tried to secure her newborn’s registration document, the process proved to be more problematic.

For this, Chen needed to go back to Qingdao, where her own hukou was registered, and begin negotiations with the district-level family planning office there.

The office told her she had to pay a social maintenance fee of 100,000 yuan.

Chen knew immediately she was being ripped off. Staff from the community-level family planning office — a lower authority — had already told her the fine would be around 40,000 yuan. But Chen had no recourse and decided to pay, expecting that to be the end of the matter.

The family planning office refused to let Chen pay the fine.

The officials insisted that according to policy, both the mother and father must be fined, and so Chen was told to return with the father to pay the fine.

Four years later, Chen did just that. She registered a sham marriage with a gay friend and headed back to the family planning office in Qingdao with her marriage certificate in hand, hopeful that the issue could finally be resolved.

It still wasn’t enough. An employee at the family planning office told Chen that she would need DNA evidence to prove her husband was the biological father of Miao Miao.

“It drove me crazy,” Chen says. “I didn’t know what else I could do.”

Sixth Tone approached the family planning office in Qingdao, but no one was available for comment.


and if you read these stories thru out it all the man who knocked up these women (one married so according to you by definition of being married he's not a "jack boy" right?) not one of them is held to ay standard if they choose to not take responsibility..

BUT the kid still needs an education and child care and food etc...you know ALL THE STUFF YOU HAVE TO DO TO TAKE OF A CHILD. And he gets to skate on that.

And you guys think thats fine? or solely her fault?? cuz theres NOTHING in your rules or methods that holds him any way responsible if he doesn't want to be. And theres NO incentive for any man to own up if all thats going to result is a bunch of fines and penalties...wont stop them from skeetin up tho right??

SO youre solution is to punish her MORE in the hopes that will break the cycle...

Well...china's actually doing that...hows it working out??
China. Single-parent families declined from 12.59% to 7.58% during 1982-90. In 1990, most single-parent families were a result of separations (69.56%), followed by spouse death (24.36%) and divorce (6.98%). Single-parent families due to spouse death were 11.24% in urban areas and 27.51% in rural areas and were 9.05% in urban areas and 6.10% in rural areas due to divorce. Most one-parent families are headed by single women.
 
Again, forget all the half a fag/hermaphrodite all "genders are the same" bullshit they've been piping down your brain! Throughout history, it has always been the role of a woman to carefully choose the father of her children. I mean, how hard can it be, these days we have birth control and morning-after pills to mop up unwanted spills. Make me wonder, are you trying to tell me not only they cannot control what goes in between their legs, they are also incapable of controlling what comes out? Come on dog, you got to think better of them.
all I'm saying is that the amount of self control you demand a woman have....should be the same amount of self control for a man.

no man was ever FORCED to impregnate a female. You can't be tricked into skeetin up in a bitch.. you keep repeating throughout history, it has always been the role of a woman to carefully choose the father of her children. So men are incapable of determining who they want to have as a mother to their children?

You just squirt up in any chick that will let you regardless of what her qualifications as a mother may or may not be..right... she got a fat ass and thats all we need to know about her being a good mother...right?

what does that say about men in history and the 21st century??
 
all I'm saying is that the amount of self control you demand a woman have....should be the same amount of self control for a man.

no man was ever FORCED to impregnate a female. You can't be tricked into skeetin up in a bitch.. you keep repeating throughout history, it has always been the role of a woman to carefully choose the father of her children. So men are incapable of determining who they want to have as a mother to their children?

You just squirt up in any chick that will let you regardless of what her qualifications as a mother may or may not be..right... she got a fat ass and thats all we need to know about her being a good mother...right?

what does that say about men in history and the 21st century??
The only way to do that fairly is by allowing men, like women, to be able to abort the children they don't want to have! :hmm:
 
The only way to do that fairly is by allowing men, like women, to be able to abort the children they don't want to have! :hmm:
now your talking some kind of reverse Handmaids Tale...
well how about you just DONT SKEET UP IN A BITCH IN THE FIRST PLACE!

YOUR WORDS:
I mean, how hard can it be, these days we have birth control and morning-after pills to mop up unwanted spills. Make me wonder, are you trying to tell me not only they cannot control what goes in between their legs, they are also incapable of controlling what comes out?
theres condoms and reversible vasectomies...hell even simply pulling out is about one tick less effective than condoms.

are you saying males are incapable of doing this preventive maintenance ourselves???

because thru out this whole thing there is no meaningful dialog on what men should be doing to prevent the cycle from happening.
 
well how about you just DONT SKEET UP IN A BITCH IN THE FIRST PLACE!

YOUR WORDS:

theres condoms and reversible vasectomies...hell even simply pulling out is about one tick less effective than condoms.

are you saying males are incapable of doing this preventive maintenance ourselves???

because thru out this whole thing there is no meaningful dialog on what men should be doing to prevent the cycle from happening.
But women can fuck as long as they want and still be able to decline to have a baby if they change their minds. OK EITHER YOU A FAG OR A BITCH!
 
They be talking about equal rights, but when it comes to men having the same equal rights women have when it comes to abortions, this is when they show their true colors!
 
I have a 19 year old student that has a 5 year old son. When he told me this I was like “Damn! You have a brother-son.”

The mother of the child is his age as well. His son just started kindergarten as he was graduating high school.

Blame whoever you want. Niggas out here taking Ls.
 
But women can fuck as long as they want and still be able to decline to have a baby if they change their minds. OK EITHER YOU A FAG OR A BITCH!
here we go with the name calling :rolleyes2: :rolleyes2: :rolleyes2:

sooo you refuse to NOT skeet up in a bitch then..your incapable of making that decision...is that what your saying??
 
here we go with the name calling :rolleyes2: :rolleyes2: :rolleyes2:

sooo you refuse to NOT skeet up in a bitch then..your incapable of making that decision...is that what your saying??
Ok my bad, let me reel it back....
So only women are allowed to choose whether or not sex is recreational or procreation and men should pay the bill? Either this on don't fuck at all? Is this is what you, a (I assume, straight man is trying to say?)
 
I have been promoting if you don't plan to marry her when you are fucking her, just pull out and send that load down her throat. A bitch has never had a baby out of her mouth. Pry the bitch's mouth open of needed to swallow that semen smoothie.
 
Ok my bad, let me reel it back....
So only women are allowed to choose whether or not sex is recreational or procreation and men should pay the bill? Either this on don't fuck at all? Is this is what you, a (I assume, straight man is trying to say?)
your demanding women exercise some high level of decision making in fucking around with men in the first place...going so far as to penalize them for having babies.

meanwhile its a man's natural instinct and need to bust raw and theres nothing that can be done about that (until AFTER the sperm leaves his body)

did it ever ocur to you all on that side of the argument that women may have as strong a desire to have a man bust a nut in them as much as he wants to bust raw?? Maybe IN THE MOMENT she finds it hard to override that natural desire to take a shot?? MAYBE her natural instincts to produce offspring are as strohg as his is to conceive offspring??

yet you want to hold her to a higher standard because....:dunno: fuck how she feels about this shit...right? Its her job to make that decision (AFTER the sperm leaves your body) for the BOTH of us.
 
I have been promoting if you don't plan to marry her when you are fucking her, just pull out and send that load down her throat. A bitch has never had a baby out of her mouth. Pry the bitch's mouth open of needed to swallow that semen smoothie.
What's easier, a man (a young hormone-fueled man) stroking knee-deep in some pussy to make this decision on the fly, or a woman deciding not to take birth control, bypass the morning after pill, and choosing not to get an abortion, up to days before a fuck and/or up-to 24 weeks later?
 
your demanding women exercise some high level of decision making in fucking around with men in the first place...going so far as to penalize them for having babies.

meanwhile its a man's natural instinct and need to bust raw and theres nothing that can be done about that (until AFTER the sperm leaves his body)

did it ever ocur to you all on that side of the argument that women may have as strong a desire to have a man bust a nut in them as much as he wants to bust raw?? Maybe IN THE MOMENT she finds it hard to override that natural desire to take a shot?? MAYBE her natural instincts to produce offspring are as strohg as his is to conceive offspring??

yet you want to hold her to a higher standard because....:dunno: fuck how she feels about this shit...right? Its her job to make that decision (AFTER the sperm leaves your body) for the BOTH of us.
Where the fuck did you read that I intend to penalize them? My argument was married folks should be economically encouraged to be and stay married.
Now go back and search, to show me.
 
What's easier, a man (a young hormone-fueled man) stroking knee-deep in some pussy to make this decision on the fly, or a woman deciding not to take birth control, bypass the morning after pill, and choosing not to get an abortion, up to days before a fuck and/or up-to 24 weeks later?

Slow down bro, I am a "foot on these hoes necks" type of guy. I am all about shitting on single mothers, why? Because I aint have shit to do with creating any of that fuckshit! A bitch want some cum from me, she better open her mouth wide enough until I can see her tonsils then I a plucking her in her throat hard as possible so she doesn't miss swallowing anything.

If you aint treating a bitch like some used toilet paper, then you aint treating the bitch right! I love treating bitches so good too.
 
Slow down bro, I am a "foot on these hoes necks" type of guy. I am all about shitting on single mothers, why? Because I aint have shit to do with creating any of that fuckshit! A bitch want some cum from me, she better open her mouth wide enough until I can see her tonsils then I a plucking her in her throat hard as possible so she doesn't miss swallowing anything.

If you aint treating a bitch like some used toilet paper, then you aint treating the bitch right! I love treating bitches so good too.
Or perhaps instead of telling them to pull out (not everyone is a champ), you'd be better off telling them to strap up.
 
Where the fuck did you read that I intend to penalize them? My argument was married folks should be economically encouraged to be and stay married.
Now go back and search, to show me.
true you didn't hardwayz did....do you agree or disagree?
 
true you didn't hardwayz did....do you agree or disagree?
I think it's better to encourage people to do something positive than punish them for doing something negative, the worst thing, however, is to encourage them for doing something negative. So my answer is no I do not agree, I'd go about handling that situation differently.
 
Nah man.

We've heard 40 fuckin years about how the men fucked up.

You are singing an old song that we all know the lyrics to trying to deflect to 'save the honor' of females.

What we haven't heard is the role females have played.

Mofos like you just want to deflect, because that's what you mother trained you to do.

keep women from facing accountability.

taking care of a baby by yourself IS considered accountability. It took two to make it but only one is changing the shitty diapers and taking it to daycare. You know... the actual hands on nittygritty of parenting:rolleyes:...the stuff YOUR MOTHER did for you. Are you saying she wasn't held accountable for her choice in having YOU?
 
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Slow down bro, I am a "foot on these hoes necks" type of guy. I am all about shitting on single mothers, why? Because I aint have shit to do with creating any of that fuckshit! A bitch want some cum from me, she better open her mouth wide enough until I can see her tonsils then I a plucking her in her throat hard as possible so she doesn't miss swallowing anything.

If you aint treating a bitch like some used toilet paper, then you aint treating the bitch right! I love treating bitches so good too.


Or perhaps instead of telling them to pull out (not everyone is a champ), you'd be better off telling them to strap up.
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Again, forget all the half a fag/hermaphrodite all "genders are the same" bullshit they've been piping down your brain! Throughout history, it has always been the role of a woman to carefully choose the father of her children. I mean, how hard can it be, these days we have birth control and morning-after pills to mop up unwanted spills. Make me wonder, are you trying to tell me not only they cannot control what goes in between their legs, they are also incapable of controlling what comes out? Come on dog, you got to think better of them.

Dog.. is a bitch...brah
 
Dog.. is a bitch...brah
when you can't intellectually contribute then troll...right... :rolleyes:

I seriously don't think you're capable of an intelligent thought...thats why you post the way you do..like a retarded 15 year old...you think its character but its really just sad. :smh::rolleyes2:
 
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We way too far in to go backwards but to be honest, not much can be done at this point...

Literally the only real benefit is to change the culture but American youth culture is mostly based around black culture, if you want change you'll literally have to leave the benefits out, kill all modern dating, kill all modern liberalism ideas and go back to hardcore 1950's conservatism to be honest... sounds messed up but giving a woman that much choice has consequences.

If this issue gets too bad and not with blacks the government will step in put a foot all women's necks, America could care less about blacks though... if the child rate declines big time and it gets bad expect a republican (and yes they'll win in 24) to make some serious changes.

It's a reason all these black conservatives say integration was the worse for blacks because they actually preferred poor blacks married and forced to be with each other over what we have now, if you being honest nothing can really be done, women are gonna seek the best suitor.

I know highly educated sisters who are single moms with no man, not that the man is no good but he has nothing compared to her but she needed to get off that night and hence we have a child today, after the child she dipped for better options but no one came as a replacement.

These conservations are too broad to discuss without dudes getting in their feelings, men are men and men want to feel like men, women want the privileges of being female, it's not gonna change no time soon.
 
taking care of a baby by yourself IS considered accountability. It took two to make it but only one is changing the shitty diapers and taking it to daycare. You know... the actual hands on nittygritty of parenting:rolleyes:...the stuff YOUR MOTHER did for you. Are you saying she wasn't held accountable for her choice in having YOU?

Nope.

Taking care of a baby by yourself is a consequence of bad choices in mates.

Before you handle anything else regarding that consequence, you have to take responsibility for the first mistake: Picking Pookie and Ray Ray.

That means no shifting the blame over to who you CHOSE.

Everything else is fruit from the poison tree of your choice as a woman.
 
when you can't intellectually contribute then troll...right... :rolleyes:

I seriously don't you're capable of an intelligent thought...thats why you post the way you do..like a retarded 15 year old...you think its character but its really just sad. :smh::rolleyes2:

I will whip the dog shit out you bish..you contribute not shit to this board...dont make me mad...I will force myself upon your kin...bish
 
Nope.

Taking care of a baby by yourself is a consequence of bad choices in mates.

Before you handle anything else regarding that consequence, you have to take responsibility for the first mistake: Picking Pookie and Ray Ray.

That means no shifting the blame over to who you CHOSE.

Everything else is fruit from the poison tree of your choice as a woman.

That bish @geechiedan ...needs his ass worn out with a tree branch...brah
 
when you can't intellectually contribute then troll...right... :rolleyes:

I seriously don't you're capable of an intelligent thought...thats why you post the way you do..like a retarded 15 year old...you think its character but its really just sad. :smh::rolleyes2:

You the kind of bitch muffucka.. that I would come up to In the mall...and take your food...bish
 
true you didn't hardwayz did....do you agree or disagree?

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How is what I wrote considered penalizing? I'm not calling for anyone to fined or put in jail, have their kids taken away, or even sterilized.

Why should people who make bad choices continue to enjoy a state supported safety net when we have 60+ years of data that shows single mother lead households have hurt the community?
 
A lot of women do that to their sons. I always assumed it was because of bad feelings toward the father. And its not always single mothers, it can be married ones too. And this will go on if the man does not have the womans respect.
 
Nope.

Taking care of a baby by yourself is a consequence of bad choices in mates.

Before you handle anything else regarding that consequence, you have to take responsibility for the first mistake: Picking Pookie and Ray Ray.

That means no shifting the blame over to who you CHOSE.

Everything else is fruit from the poison tree of your choice as a woman.
they BOTH need to make better choices but only ONE is held responsible. Again you give pookie and ray ray a pass for helping to create the situation.. water finds its own level so pookie fucked sharkisha and you think the kid from these TWO is supposed to grow up NOT having issues??

But you only blame sharkisha because :dunno: pookie is pookie what you gonna do right?
 
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How is what I wrote considered penalizing? I'm not calling for anyone to fined or put in jail, have their kids taken away, or even sterilized.

Why should people who make bad choices continue to enjoy a state supported safety net when we have 60+ years of data that shows single mother lead households have hurt the community?

Women will only qualify for direct child support if they were married before or up to a year after childbirth.
it takes two people to maintain a marriage.. and this rule incentivized him to NOT marry or maintain the union for a period of time. Doesn't stop him from skeetin raw tho... And if he's talking marriage or saying the right things it wouldn't necessarily lead her to believe that he would renege on that shit. One of the basic factors of any relationship is TRUST. What that rule does is penalize her for trusting him.

Make deadbeat unmarried men pay a child support tax directly to government that pays for community services for all underprivileged kids (food, clothing, family shelters, education etc.).

hows that any different from a family court order thats already in place? And how do you know that money is going directly to his child?

since every state is different heres PA...basic guideline on it:

Code Section231 Pa. Code Rule 1910.16-1
Who is Responsible?Both parents
How Support is Calculated?Pennsylvania Support Guidelines
FactorsGuidelines are based upon the monthly income of both parents even if the parents are not working, the court may order them to pay child support. In some cases, both parents may be ordered to pay support for a child not in their care.
What is Included in a Support Order?Monetary support (food, clothing, & shelter), health insurance, basic education expenses. Also might include child care expenses, extraordinary medical expenses, visitation travel costs, and extracurricular activities.
How Long Must a Parent Pay Child Support?Until the child reaches the age of 18 or until the child graduates high school. Support may continue past 18 if the child has certain physical or emotional challenges.


your way broadens it to some kind of program that may nor may not benefit the child directly.


Put a hard cap on social benefits for single unwed mothers after second child out of wedlock.

thats a penalty. One that forces her to make choices but not him... every man is free to say and do whatever it takes to bust that nut raw and if she FALLS for it she's the fool and oh well. :dunno:

He gets to skate and the community judges her negatively because she should have fuckin known better...
 
Nope.

Taking care of a baby by yourself is a consequence of bad choices in mates.

Before you handle anything else regarding that consequence, you have to take responsibility for the first mistake: Picking Pookie and Ray Ray.

That means no shifting the blame over to who you CHOSE.

Everything else is fruit from the poison tree of your choice as a woman.

Gotta love the sense of entitlement a nigga with money and education has in America, like he's immune to real life cuz he's above the BS. You duudes stay on some fantasy type shit which you perfect and everything around you is perfect. I got homies 50+ with no kids with the same attitude as you, that sense of entitlement and wanting everything in life at a certain level.

The GOP needs to drop the reality on you cats once and for all, the only thing about the GOP I can respect is that they deal with the real, the poor, the depressed, the stuck in the middle and instead of telling them how perfect it is they tell them it's life and make the best of it. Youw anna know why black America isn't been shit for decades it's the entitlement, the feeling that I'm better than you when all blood is red at the end of the day.

Truth is America is filled up of entitled people who literally think they walk on water, and the guy that messed up or the girl that messed up, the shame is so bad that no one wants to come behind to clean that mess up.

While Russian is thinking of a white conservative state, we here looking down on people who made bad decisions...

Like that educated bitch ain't been getting dicked down in college heavy, she hiding behind that degree now demanding a doctor lol.... nigga please.
 
You the kind of bitch muffucka.. that I would come up to In the mall...and take your food...bish
I will whip the dog shit out you bish..you contribute not shit to this board...dont make me mad...I will force myself upon your kin...bish
That bish @geechiedan ...needs his ass worn out with a tree branch...brah

nigga you actually responded THREE times to that post... I'm in your head like that???
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this shows your actually MY bitch...:giggle:

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Women will only qualify for direct child support if they were married before or up to a year after childbirth.
it takes two people to maintain a marriage.. and this rule incentivized him to NOT marry or maintain the union for a period of time. Doesn't stop him from skeetin raw tho... And if he's talking marriage or saying the right things it wouldn't necessarily lead her to believe that he would renege on that shit. One of the basic factors of any relationship is TRUST. What that rule does is penalize her for trusting him.

Make deadbeat unmarried men pay a child support tax directly to government that pays for community services for all underprivileged kids (food, clothing, family shelters, education etc.).

hows that any different from a family court order thats already in place? And how do you know that money is going directly to his child?

since every state is different heres PA...basic guideline on it:

Code Section231 Pa. Code Rule 1910.16-1
Who is Responsible?Both parents
How Support is Calculated?Pennsylvania Support Guidelines
FactorsGuidelines are based upon the monthly income of both parents even if the parents are not working, the court may order them to pay child support. In some cases, both parents may be ordered to pay support for a child not in their care.
What is Included in a Support Order?Monetary support (food, clothing, & shelter), health insurance, basic education expenses. Also might include child care expenses, extraordinary medical expenses, visitation travel costs, and extracurricular activities.
How Long Must a Parent Pay Child Support?Until the child reaches the age of 18 or until the child graduates high school. Support may continue past 18 if the child has certain physical or emotional challenges.

your way broadens it to some kind of program that may nor may not benefit the child directly.


Put a hard cap on social benefits for single unwed mothers after second child out of wedlock.

thats a penalty. One that forces her to make choices but not him... every man is free to say and do whatever it takes to bust that nut raw and if she FALLS for it she's the fool and oh well. :dunno:

He gets to skate and the community judges her negatively because she should have fuckin known better...

You can tell you wipe a disease infested pussy... everytime you piss...you lil dike bitch you
 
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