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Are Single BLK Mothers DESTROYING their sons?
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Naw, sustaining from having sex is the only guaranteed way.
Yet we all know that if a man isn't getting any from one place. He'll find it in another place. No human is perfect and therefore human nature will takeover when men and women get together. So if you are going to be out here fucking. Then you best be fucking with individuals that you actually have some interest in. That are actually about something. Being responsible is not a one way street.
Basically you have testosterone filled boys, raised and socialized by women.
That leaves you with female emotion (learned) and male testosterone aggression (biological) with no controlled release, overseen by father figure.
dude I ran down human history and human nature:
your demanding women exercise some high level of decision making in fucking around with men in the first place...going so far as to penalize them for having babies.
meanwhile its a man's natural instinct and need to bust raw and there's nothing that can be done about that (until AFTER the sperm leaves his body)
did it ever occur to you all on that side of the argument that women may have as strong a desire to have a man bust a nut in them as much as he wants to bust raw?? Maybe IN THE MOMENT she finds it hard to override that natural desire to take a shot?? MAYBE her natural instincts to produce offspring are as strong as his is to conceive offspring??
its how the human species propagates itself and overwhelming desire that's hardwired into us to produce offspring regardless of all the reasons NOT to. how about this scenario:
Man 1 lives in NY and gets woman A pregnant....then fucks woman B...well woman B may know woman A but thinks he's going to be different with her.
Then he fucks woman C...well woman C doesn't know about A and B even tho they all live the same damn city...then he visits his cousin in Florida and meets and fucks woman D well she lives in another STATE and has no clue about A, B, and C.
We're up to at least 4 kids by four different women and you all say ALL FOUR of those women are stupid for fucking Man1....well what about Man1? well he's just dumb
. I realize all of these posts were to snark9 so you may not have read them..but heres a closer to reality run down of human history and how women had to deal with it:
and all this its historically a woman's job to select men shit is just that...SHIT... up until a little over 100 years ago, the average human life expectancy was 35... the average age for a mother for MOST of human history was like 14! You think some young teenage girl has the maturity to select a suitable mate?? you think a young teenage girl was given the OPTION to do that??
hell for a long time in human history men have had the option of RAPE for breakfast. Shit, only in the last 50 years in AMERICAN HISTORY can a man be charged for RAPING HIS WIFE!
I repeatedly asked what culture are you basing this WOMEN SELECT THIER MATES from..is it European? African?? damn sure aint American and even if it is some kind of African tradition that means little to damn near nothing for AMERICAN BLACKS since for the last 200+ years of slavery black women didn't get to choose their mates and whatever mates they did choose they got separated from in some way...THATS been a longer real tradition for American black women than any of that shit you've been rippin off.
The bottom line is his behavior ultimately given a pass for but theres no discussion on what a woman's natural inclinations may be and how that affects her decision making. That gets boiled down to bitch needs make better choices therefore its ALL her fault.
So she's stuck with the kid, stuck with the responsibility and blamed for it all by the community and resented for it (until its time to fuck again) AT NO POINT DOES ANYONE EVEN ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF ASKING HER HOW SHE FEELS ABOUT ANY OF THIS SHIT and she's left with the kid(s) by herself and you all have the audacity to wonder why fucked up kids are coming out the other end of this.
but you only want to recognize the one side.
dude I ran down human history and human nature:
your demanding women exercise some high level of decision making in fucking around with men in the first place...going so far as to penalize them for having babies.
meanwhile its a man's natural instinct and need to bust raw and there's nothing that can be done about that (until AFTER the sperm leaves his body)
did it ever occur to you all on that side of the argument that women may have as strong a desire to have a man bust a nut in them as much as he wants to bust raw?? Maybe IN THE MOMENT she finds it hard to override that natural desire to take a shot?? MAYBE her natural instincts to produce offspring are as strong as his is to conceive offspring??
its how the human species propagates itself and overwhelming desire that's hardwired into us to produce offspring regardless of all the reasons NOT to. how about this scenario:
Man 1 lives in NY and gets woman A pregnant....then fucks woman B...well woman B may know woman A but thinks he's going to be different with her.
Then he fucks woman C...well woman C doesn't know about A and B even tho they all live the same damn city...then he visits his cousin in Florida and meets and fucks woman D well she lives in another STATE and has no clue about A, B, and C.
We're up to at least 4 kids by four different women and you all say ALL FOUR of those women are stupid for fucking Man1....well what about Man1? well he's just dumb
I realize all of these posts were to snark9 so you may not have read them..but heres a closer to reality run down of human history and how women had to deal with it:
and all this its historically a woman's job to select men shit is just that...SHIT... up until a little over 100 years ago, the average human life expectancy was 35... the average age for a mother for MOST of human history was like 14! You think some young teenage girl has the maturity to select a suitable mate?? you think a young teenage girl was given the OPTION to do that??
hell for a long time in human history men have had the option of RAPE for breakfast. Shit, only in the last 50 years in AMERICAN HISTORY can a man be charged for RAPING HIS WIFE!
I repeatedly asked what culture are you basing this WOMEN SELECT THIER MATES from..is it European? African?? damn sure aint American and even if it is some kind of African tradition that means little to damn near nothing for AMERICAN BLACKS since for the last 200+ years of slavery black women didn't get to choose their mates and whatever mates they did choose they got separated from in some way...THATS been a longer real tradition for American black women than any of that shit you've been rippin off.
The bottom line is his behavior ultimately given a pass for but theres no discussion on what a woman's natural inclinations may be and how that affects her decision making. That gets boiled down to bitch needs make better choices therefore its ALL her fault.
So she's stuck with the kid, stuck with the responsibility and blamed for it all by the community and resented for it (until its time to fuck again) AT NO POINT DOES ANYONE EVEN ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF ASKING HER HOW SHE FEELS ABOUT ANY OF THIS SHIT and she's left with the kid(s) by herself and you all have the audacity to wonder why fucked up kids are coming out the other end of this.
but you only want to recognize the one side.
Bruh.....where's Colin....shit..I ain't reading all this
High level decision making??? There are IG thots who reject everyone not an athlete or rappa but your telling me the average hoodrat can't pass up on a street dude who brings nothing to the table but sex?
Yes, women have desires too. All women. Are you saying only BLACK women can't control those desires and decide against their better judgement to have unprotected sex with deadbeats? Cause we BY FAR have the most out of wedlock births.
And you conveniently skipped over my previous point about arranged marriages. A family wasn't approving of their 14 year old to fuck a deadbeat that couldn't provide for her or their family.
This has been going on around the world from the beginning of time, even female animals discriminate against who they allow to impregnate them. Not to mentions (something you seem to conveniently leave out) women have options of birth control and the morning-after pill, and are allowed to have abortions without the man's permission.dude I ran down human history and human nature:
your demanding women exercise some high level of decision making in fucking around with men in the first place...going so far as to penalize them for having babies.
meanwhile its a man's natural instinct and need to bust raw and there's nothing that can be done about that (until AFTER the sperm leaves his body)
did it ever occur to you all on that side of the argument that women may have as strong a desire to have a man bust a nut in them as much as he wants to bust raw?? Maybe IN THE MOMENT she finds it hard to override that natural desire to take a shot?? MAYBE her natural instincts to produce offspring are as strong as his is to conceive offspring??
its how the human species propagates itself and overwhelming desire that's hardwired into us to produce offspring regardless of all the reasons NOT to. how about this scenario:
Man 1 lives in NY and gets woman A pregnant....then fucks woman B...well woman B may know woman A but thinks he's going to be different with her.
Then he fucks woman C...well woman C doesn't know about A and B even tho they all live the same damn city...then he visits his cousin in Florida and meets and fucks woman D well she lives in another STATE and has no clue about A, B, and C.
We're up to at least 4 kids by four different women and you all say ALL FOUR of those women are stupid for fucking Man1....well what about Man1? well he's just dumb
I realize all of these posts were to snark9 so you may not have read them..but heres a closer to reality run down of human history and how women had to deal with it:
and all this its historically a woman's job to select men shit is just that...SHIT... up until a little over 100 years ago, the average human life expectancy was 35... the average age for a mother for MOST of human history was like 14! You think some young teenage girl has the maturity to select a suitable mate?? you think a young teenage girl was given the OPTION to do that??
hell for a long time in human history men have had the option of RAPE for breakfast. Shit, only in the last 50 years in AMERICAN HISTORY can a man be charged for RAPING HIS WIFE!
I repeatedly asked what culture are you basing this WOMEN SELECT THIER MATES from..is it European? African?? damn sure aint American and even if it is some kind of African tradition that means little to damn near nothing for AMERICAN BLACKS since for the last 200+ years of slavery black women didn't get to choose their mates and whatever mates they did choose they got separated from in some way...THATS been a longer real tradition for American black women than any of that shit you've been rippin off.
The bottom line is his behavior ultimately given a pass for but theres no discussion on what a woman's natural inclinations may be and how that affects her decision making. That gets boiled down to bitch needs make better choices therefore its ALL her fault.
So she's stuck with the kid, stuck with the responsibility and blamed for it all by the community and resented for it (until its time to fuck again) AT NO POINT DOES ANYONE EVEN ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF ASKING HER HOW SHE FEELS ABOUT ANY OF THIS SHIT and she's left with the kid(s) by herself and you all have the audacity to wonder why fucked up kids are coming out the other end of this.
but you only want to recognize the one side.
Want to leave the onus solely on the men, then give them the option to terminate births they don't want (just like women) and if they fail to comply then the woman is responsible for the child. This is a big option and advantage women have, but since we are trying to make things equal, keep it a buck or shut the fuck up!
The irony is, if men were allowed to opt for abortion like women are, then women would be more careful about getting pregnant and more discriminate about who they allow to skeet up in them. Golddiggers would be out of business, and women would seek men who are fathers rather trying to trick and have births out of leverage. The end result would be a better quality of parents and kids.
its bugged out how many ppl wanna bash single mothers like these kids were all born of immaculate conception
there are bad moms that keep their kids away from their dad but in my experience more often there are more likely deadbeat fathers who dont want nothing to do with their kids (and often have numerous babymamas)
In my life..it's the opposite...them hoes use babies against all my real niggaz...and the women get a new man..and hate they old kids..and want To give the new nigga some babies...brah..they want the child support...and the Ebt...benefits...brah
The truth is only straight males, and mostly black straight men are not allowed to enjoy the freedom of sex.
Think about it, fags can fuck all day without any worries (other than diseases which both parties are responsible), Dykes the something, women can fuck as many guys as they want (due to all the contraception, abortions, and morning-after pills), so while the rest of the world is having a fuck feast, you are asking us straight men to keep our dicks in our pants? To make matters worse, white men are allowed to bust all day in white women, with confidence they will either be on birth control or the morning after, while we have three sucky options, vasectomy (they suck), condoms (they suck), or celibacy (this sucks worse!)
Again this is something a fag or a woman has no problems with!
The other end of that you keep leaving out is those male animals who get chosen usually take care of the kid and female in some way whether its taking turns to raise the kids (penguins) or staking out and maintaining the territory (lions). In any case the male who successfully mates tends to be the most aggressive in courtship process and thats true among humans. So the choice females of any species makes is largely predicated on the behavior of the males towards her. There may be other criteria but how he does what he does can prove to be very persuasive.
Again a busted chick fucking with a busted dude is water finding its own level. You don't know what the inner working of that relationship is like.
men do have the ability and opportunity to abort a pregnancy BEFORE it begins.. you just CHOOSE to not exercise it because you want to still bust that raw nut up in that tight pussy. You want to let the horse out the barn then blame the barn owner when you opened the door in the first place.
The bottom line is you want to control things AFTER the fact but it just doesn't work like that in nature... You wanna fuck how you wanna fuck THEN blame her for shit going sideways.
Why don't you get an abortion?
why don't you take the pill?
why didn't you think about this before hand?
Well why don't you wear a condom??
why don't you pull out??
why didn't YOU think about this before hand??
Well a condom doesn't feel the same and at the moment of busting that nut the LAST thing I'm thinking about is pulling out! So no..I'm gonna alley-oop that shit...toss the ball in the air and HOPE she finishes the play.
Great point.
Dude is caping so hard he's making women look like children. They can't choose mates. They can't control their desires. Then why should women solely decide pregnancy?
Here's the problem: You think the solution is for irresponsible men to just flip a switch and be responsible. That's not going to happen.
So how do we as a community get these people to stop having children out of wedlock and continuing the cycle of poverty? Because that is the real issue here. There has to be incentives to move people away from that, and discourage the status quo.
I thought the whole thing was single blacks mothers are bad parents and fucking up black sons...what difference does it make that the father is a rapper or athlete if he's not a part of the kids life in any meaningful way?? A bad parent is a bad parent whether she's on welfare or adjacent to a millionaire.
You guys are literally saying Black women are SOLELY responsible for fucking up black boys and by inference and stats are by far the worst parental influence a black child could ever have. Its all her fault right?
And the black american experience in america is not the same as every other group in the country. I'm pretty sure if you look at every country you will find the people who are treated the shittiest tend to have the higher number of out of wedlock births.
And you need to stop being colin for sec and read some of that shit..cuz I did address the arranged marriage thing. Thats for people who HAD SHIT..like land or royalty or animals to trade. The whole concept of "marriage" was more about status and some kind of transactional deal than anything romantic and it certainly wasn't based on love....ask prince charles... he didn't want to marry diana, he was in LOVE with frumpy ass camilla...THAT was an arranged marriage and how did it end up? How did the boys turn out??
What do you think busted dudes are just gonna die off or something?? there has to be incentives ON BOTH SIDES. So far all you guys have suggested is shit SHE needs to do... well 50% of this equation is being ignored.
Cause its a bish...that bish is a bish...a Captain save a bish... bish.. brah
I would have to agree with this.
the result would be some kind of fucked up reverse handmaids tale. In fact your post perfectly illustrates why men NEED to be more conscious and careful who they impregnate because possession is 9/10th the law and once the sperm leaves your body your at the mercy of what the other person wants to do with it.
also something kinda like that was done already:
From 1929 to 1974, North Carolina’s eugenics program sterilized close to 7,600 men and women, making it impossible for them to reproduce or conceive, according to The Justice for Sterilization Victims Foundation. The foundation was established by the N.C. Department of Administration in 2010 to pay reparations to the surviving victims of the state’s eugenics program. Legislators ultimately set aside $10 million in the state budget to pay those victims, The News & Observer reported. The first checks, written for $20,000 each, were mailed to 220 of those survivors in 2014. The law does not, however, apply to individuals who were sterilized by local health or welfare departments, The Charlotte Observer reported later that year.
North Carolina’s eugenics program was one of many in the U.S. targeting people with illnesses or disabilities living in state institutions, but it was later touted “as one of several solutions to poverty and illegitimacy,” the foundation says. That meant sterilization petitions weren’t just submitted by hospitals but also by local welfare officials and county boards of commissioners, according to Darity’s paper. “As such, the scope of North Carolina’s eugenic sterilization law extended directly to recipients of public welfare,” the paper states. According to The Justice for Sterilization Victims Foundation, the majority of victims in other states were sterilized before World War II, but more than 70% of North Carolina’s occurred after 1945. Many of those victims were white women not living in institutions and Black people, the foundation says.
Read more at: https://www.newsobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article244411987.html#storylink=cpy
Stop with the non-sequitur bullshit, what does giving men the rights to terminate pregnancy the same that women have right now, have to do with fucking sterilization and egenics programs? Nice try, but next time try that shit on someone that is as dumb as rocks!
And you've suggested absolutely nothing. All you've done is caped for women using every excuse you can think of. Which leads me to believe you don't think out of wedlock births and the ensuing poverty and disfunction that too frequently comes along with that is acceptable.
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How would that work in practice? you get a court order forcing her to terminate the pregnancy against her will? Are you rendering her incapable of getting pregnant again? no But your controlling her body and her decision on what to do with her body in a direct way for your own benefit even if she doesn't agree with it. How is that any different from the welfare office (the state) making the decision to manipulate her body regardless of her consent?
I've repeatedly said we should exercise control and better judgement over who we impregnate and when and the cycle of illegitimacy and poverty in that way ends immediately.. You think men are incapable of doing that so you dismiss it out of hand. I'm suggesting we be what we THINK we are which is LEADERS and PACE SETTERS, the one who determine our own destiny and you guys clearly keep saying NAAAH FUCK THAT I'd rather SHE handle that duty and save me from myself. I'm just a squirting machine, SHE handles when the babies come out and whether I'm good enough to be a father or not.
Even tho we live in an era where methods and tech is available to YOU to control when the sperm meets the egg. You STILL would rather leave that up to her to decide. Every "solution" you guys come up with is AFTER you bust that nut. AFTER you started the chain reaction of events that will lead to a baby and a responsibility you're not ready for NOW you want to get proactive...
This is just nice sounding, wishful thinking idealism. That's why I'm dismissing it. The majority of men who abandon their kids didn't grow up with fathers to guide them and show them HOW to exercise control and use better judgement. They're just repeating what they grew up seeing (or not seeing).
The type of dudes willing to walk away and neglect their offspring can't be guilted, shamed or reasoned with. Again, if the threat of JAIL won't make some of these dudes step up what else is left? Castration? Do you not see why this is a dead end?
and what do you think women's upbringing was in the similar dysfunctional household? I keep saying water finds it own level so the type of female that would fuck with guys like that most likely comes from a fucked up background too and then you throw sexual abuse into that mix and you get what you get. But you still say its easier to induce a change in HER behavior...
In North Carolina, which sterilized the third highest number of people in the United States – 7,600 people from 1929 to 1973 – women vastly outnumbered men and Black women were disproportionately sterilized. Preliminary analysis shows that from 1950 to 1966, Black women were sterilized at more than three times the rate of white women and more than 12 times the rate of white men. This pattern reflected the ideas that Black women were not capable of being good parents and poverty should be managed with reproductive constraint.
From 1937 to 1966, Black women were most likely to be forcibly sterilized in the state; desegregation coincided with a dramatic increase in the rate. White women were the next most likely demographic group to be forcibly sterilized, followed less frequently by Black men and white men.
Forced sterilization policies in the US targeted minorities and those with disabilities – and lasted into the 21st century
The US has a long history of forced sterilization campaigns that were driven by the bogus 'science' of eugenics, racism and sexism.
Now I know NO ONE is talking about sterilizing black women here but the article shows that both you guys and racist cacs are thinking along the same lines...which is THE PROBLEM is these BLACK WOMEN AND SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE TO AFFECT THESE BLACK WOMEN'S BEHAVIOR....BECAUSE BLACK WOMEN ARE BAD MOTHERS AND THATS A PROBLEM FOR ALL OF US.
again..look at the thread topic before being outraged at how I expressed that....
Are Single BLK Mothers DESTROYING their sons?
thats an indictment and question on all black women. So the eugenics program started 100 years ago came from the same place your thinking.....BLACK WOMEN ARE THE PROBLEM. They just went further than youre willing to go but its the same thought process.
No, I'm saying its easier to limit the benefits given to women who decide to have multiple children with different men.
I had a situation with my moms where she was doing a good job of killing my dream!
She used to tell me how I couldnt do what I was doing & it was VERY discouraging. SHe was liking my dream, She had me thinking that I needed a job... that I needed to rely on something someone else built.
Then 1 day she realized she was wrong & apologized.
I was reminiscing listening to some recorded conversations we had. I wanted to hear her tell me my birthday story, after I played it I found the one where I was going back & forth w/ her about killing my dream while living in atlanta.
For some people, it's hard to see past what they don't know or understand. Some people dont trust themselves enough to try to make it on their own.
He apology was much appreciated. She eventually realized she was wrong while reflecting on her work career & how she fucked up her retirement making an emotional decision. She realized she was replaced witth a younger version of herself @ a cheaper price. He JOB provided her with no ownership.
She also told me when it was time to cut my losses in KY with grad school & owning my barbershop when shit dried up! I wish I had left sooner!
I wasted a lot of productive youthful time there as it related to being in a relationship & so on.
She used to tell me how I couldnt do what I was doing & it was VERY discouraging. SHe was liking my dream, She had me thinking that I needed a job... that I needed to rely on something someone else built.
Then 1 day she realized she was wrong & apologized.
I was reminiscing listening to some recorded conversations we had. I wanted to hear her tell me my birthday story, after I played it I found the one where I was going back & forth w/ her about killing my dream while living in atlanta.
For some people, it's hard to see past what they don't know or understand. Some people dont trust themselves enough to try to make it on their own.
He apology was much appreciated. She eventually realized she was wrong while reflecting on her work career & how she fucked up her retirement making an emotional decision. She realized she was replaced witth a younger version of herself @ a cheaper price. He JOB provided her with no ownership.
She also told me when it was time to cut my losses in KY with grad school & owning my barbershop when shit dried up! I wish I had left sooner!
I wasted a lot of productive youthful time there as it related to being in a relationship & so on.
But its not easier because you keep not factoring that women....black women are HUMAN TOO. The majority of men who abandon their kids didn't grow up with fathers to guide them and show them HOW to exercise control and use better judgement. They're just repeating what they grew up seeing (or not seeing).
and so he gets a pass for his fucked up behavior...ultimately thats how it works..
why does this explanation NOT apply to women?? what makes you think a woman growing up in a dysfunctional environment herself can some how make a change in a way he CAN'T...we're talking about human behavior here..
you have no idea whats going on in these womens lives and what the dudes theyre dealing with are telling them or treating them to get them to have their kid.
Think about all the times YOU finagled pussy off a chick...how did you make that work???
What did you say or do to get her to allow you to fuck her raw??
Maybe he's telling her she's the one?
Maybe he's making some effort to make her believe that initially..at least long enough to hit raw cuz thats the best kind of fucking...
Maybe he WAS actually doing right by her but was hustler so ended in jail or dead
Maybe he's not a hustler maybe hes a regular dude trying to do the right thing and the relationship just went south??
Maybe he got overwhelmed and ran out.
Maybe he found someone better or just likes new pussy so hes moved on (after she's pregnant)
You guys act like chicks are just having babies for the hell of it like its nothing...
these aren't excuses these are real world real life situations MANY women across the board get caught up in. But you don't give her the benefit the doubt that maybe she's trying to make something real happen with the men she meets...in fact you wanna take away any benefits she gets because fuck her for being dumb enough to trust men period.
You brought up IG thots having babies with athletes and rappers as if thats a better choice...but you got a man whose got babies literally all over the country with 6 or 7 different women... even with millions of dollars how can a man be an effective full time father when he has kids in Miami, LA, Texas, NY and Seattle?? (cities he regularly visits on tours and games) Where is that male presence in their lives that can guide them because lord knows and we all agree that single black women are HORRIBLE at parenting.
this isn't busted dudes like ray ray and pookie these guys who have normal names like bigbaby and weezy....but he's a millionaire so somehow its different right?
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We don't know what the behind the door situation common, andre 3k or jay has with her and those kids...but according to popular thought Erykah Badu just by having 3 baby daddies means she makes poor decisions and is clearly a horrible parent to her kids whose doing damage to them as we type.
At the end it would be her choice, because if the man elects to have an abortion, she still can have the kid, after all, it is her body, the only thing is, she would be responsible for her body and what's in it, not him, which is still more options than a man has for his unborn child.How would that work in practice? you get a court order forcing her to terminate the pregnancy against her will? Are you rendering her incapable of getting pregnant again? no But your controlling her body and her decision on what to do with her body in a direct way for your own benefit even if she doesn't agree with it. How is that any different from the welfare office (the state) making the decision to manipulate her body regardless of her consent?
I've repeatedly said we should exercise control and better judgement over who we impregnate and when and the cycle of illegitimacy and poverty in that way ends immediately.. You think men are incapable of doing that so you dismiss it out of hand. I'm suggesting we be what we THINK we are which is LEADERS and PACE SETTERS, the one who determine our own destiny and you guys clearly keep saying NAAAH FUCK THAT I'd rather SHE handle that duty and save me from myself. I'm just a squirting machine, SHE handles when the babies come out and whether I'm good enough to be a father or not.
Even tho we live in an era where methods and tech is available to YOU to control when the sperm meets the egg. You STILL would rather leave that up to her to decide. Every "solution" you guys come up with is AFTER you bust that nut. AFTER you started the chain reaction of events that will lead to a baby and a responsibility you're not ready for NOW you want to get proactive...
I know what you are thinking, men will abuse this and be fucking women recklessly. On the contrary, the other part of this situation would allow women who are married to automatically have at least two kids with the husband, counting it as a yes I want to vote by the father, regardless, also before they get married a couple must state and apply how many kids they want and if they both agree to ten then the man would be responsible for caring for all ten.
So what this would do is have 100 accountability (I know your type hate that word) in both sides, and if a woman still chooses to recklessly fuck men without birth control or the morning after, and cannot take care of the child, then she should be should be given aid but not allowed to bring any more children in the world, by herself. Same rule applies for the man who agrees to raise children but cannot support them.
This is what 100% fair looks like, not the blame the man for the woman refusing to protect herself, with birth control or the morning after, after they were both reckless with fucking!!!!!!!
Now I bet you think I'm bashing black women, but
1-this rule would apply to all races not just blacks.
2- My mother was the victim of a simp man who married her, gave two kids (actually three after he raped her) and such a rule would go really hard on these types of men also, especially if he were to rape his wife! I really despise men who promise to be fathers then refuse to raise them after, just like I despise women who trick men into having kids, for leverage.
Also for the record, I have only one child, never been on child support, and raised her by myself for the first 13 years, and I am still active in her life both financially, emotionally, and spiritually! In other words, none of my thinking is due to emotional scars or anyother selfish reasons.
1-this rule would apply to all races not just blacks.
2- My mother was the victim of a simp man who married her, gave two kids (actually three after he raped her) and such a rule would go really hard on these types of men also, especially if he were to rape his wife! I really despise men who promise to be fathers then refuse to raise them after, just like I despise women who trick men into having kids, for leverage.
Also for the record, I have only one child, never been on child support, and raised her by myself for the first 13 years, and I am still active in her life both financially, emotionally, and spiritually! In other words, none of my thinking is due to emotional scars or anyother selfish reasons.
Who said men get a pass? Your continuously ignoring the fact that men face legal consequences for not supporting their kids ( IF the woman takes them to court ).
What goes on in these women's lives is not my business. They are adults. They have the freedom to fuck who they want. The state should not have the obligation to feed and house their bastard offspring because of their choices on who they fuck. Because they currently do, women (and men) have a safety net to pick up the slack of the deadbeat's obligations. But the state will never be daddy.
Women don't conceive children by themselves therefore its impossible for a woman to bring a child into the world by herself. When you figure out the solution to that end of it then you got something.
So many points are problematic and would be a nonstarter politically and socially. Progressives and liberals would kill it but I'll tell you who would be onboard... conservatives...ANYTHING that can used to control and dictate to the poor and especially black and brown... they are down with that program or really POGRAM.
Also if you put in a clause that a parent can give up parental rights to their kid (and that does exist already) and you can't be upset that she's claiming how their father doesn't care about them...also the sheer knowledge of that by the kid can't be a good feeling. Especially if the father goes on to have other kids and a family with another woman somewhere else.
In any case....all of that could be bypassed by him just using a condom or wait for it...waiting till marriage since its so important for children to be born in wedlock. How many men especially black men agree to do that?? How realistic do you think that would be?
both of your arguments are more concerned with the financial burden "illegit" kids either put on the man or put on the system.. none of them address the notion that black women are essentially bad single parents...something apparently racist cacs and many black men here agree on.
Also those solutions really don't encourage or incentivize men to get married or stay in the home...at least for the reason of staying with her long term. I looked at what you wrote and none of it incentivizes black men to change their behavior. You all concede that. If the threat of JAIL or GARNISHMENT doesn't change his mind then nothing will and oh well
lets just concentrate on getting HER to change shit. In the HOPES that he will play along...how realistic is that??But NONE OF THAT addresses the contention that single black mothers damage their children, black sons in particular. Where that comes from and why theres a cycle?
It seems to me to that the two biggest issues by far in a couple breaking down are financial and fidelity. We ALL know that a major component of break ups is cheating. I said this before two pages back and you called it whataboutisms
You want the state to incentivize marriage when its hard to maintain a happy union when dudes got side bitches...last I checked that tends to be a deal breaker for most women for some reason..
.. hell half the married dudes on bgol brag about how many side bitches they have... then mofos wanna act surprised when wifey is burning their clothes and trying to leverage the kids against them. What did you think the reaction was going to be for cheating on your wife or "main girl" you led to believe was only one?maybe if HE makes better choices the rest of that bullshit CAN'T happen...no pregnancy...no babymomma drama..no family court...no custody issues....how about we try that for a minute and see how it works?
your response:
show me a dude thats willing to wait because SHE wants to wait until marriage....hell DID YOU?? IS THAT A DEAL YOU WOULD AGREE TO?? BE HONEST.
Yeah its fucked up when women get pissed off because their men cheated on them so they leverage the kids against him but she's hurt so she wants him to feel the same level of pain and betrayal she feels.. Thats not a female thing thats a HUMAN reaction cuz men do it too. Ya'll need to stop thinking this women are from Klingon and men are from Vulcan bullshit that men are all logical and thought processing and women are purely emotional. If you found out your wife or significant other was cheating on YOU and had the other nigga around your kids how would YOU react?? I GARANTEE you its NOT gonna be you telling the kids how their mommy and you dont agree right now but she's a good person tho.
So in order to break the poverty cycle and prevent single black female parenting these issues have to addressed in some way?
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