49ers

NOW....

DANNY SHELTON PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE OUR PICK
A 340 LBS NOSE TACKLE
TRADE UP A LITTLE TO GET HIM, IF THE BEARS DON'T DRAFT HIM FIRST


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I leave you guys alone for a bit and the team falls apart. Coaches leave, players retire, ticket prices go up. What have you guys been doing? :D

Peace the homies. Good to be back here seeing Niner talk.
 
I leave you guys alone for a bit and the team falls apart. Coaches leave, players retire, ticket prices go up. What have you guys been doing? :D

Peace the homies. Good to be back here seeing Niner talk.

Was wondering where you were. I've been having to talk everyone off the ledge by myself smh
 
Welp, it's official....
Stevie Johnson is now a San Diego Charger


Trent didn't want to pay Stevie's salary this coming year, so they cut him
Apparently Baalke's plan was to re-sign him to a cheaper contract
But I guess he said "fuck ya'll I'm out"

:smh::smh::smh:


Sooooo our WR group is...
1) Torrey Smith
2) Anquan Boldin (who is on the last year of his contract)
3) And a couple of young unproven scrub WR's

:hmm::hmm::hmm:
 
Welp, it's official....
Stevie Johnson is now a San Diego Charger


Trent didn't want to pay Stevie's salary this coming year, so they cut him
Apparently Baalke's plan was to re-sign him to a cheaper contract
But I guess he said "fuck ya'll I'm out"

:smh::smh::smh:


Sooooo our WR group is...
1) Torrey Smith
2) Anquan Boldin (who is on the last year of his contract)
3) And a couple of young unproven scrub WR's

:hmm::hmm::hmm:

Why we gonna pay him that much money to be the 3rd wr and then still get one of the studs in the draft? that just doesn't make sense.

Patton is not a scrub he rarely got opportunities and we have no idea what ellington is or isn't because they couldn't get him on the field Just like Harbaugh and Roman forgot how to get stevie on the field in favor of crab and lloyd even though stevie and kap had instant chemistry.
 
Sooooo our WR group is...
1) Torrey Smith
2) Anquan Boldin (who is on the last year of his contract)
3) And a couple of young unproven scrub WR's

That's actually a good group.

Boldin & Smith on the outside with Ellington (who I clearly see as the #3 currently) and Patton working the slot positions.

And don't forget we have a healthy Vernon Davis to throw to also. With Bush out of the backfield (is Chryst calls those plays).

Not sure what Simpson has in the tank or what we'll do in the draft but the current core of "receivers" is fine.
 
Quarterback Colin Kaepernick’s 10-week offseason session in Arizona is over

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/coa...ore-consistent-efficient?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo



"Every weekday for the past 10 weeks, Kaepernick conditioned and lifted weights at the EXOS training facility in Phoenix from 8 to 10:30 a.m. Then, he would spend time in the film room, work on his mechanics and throw passes until approximately 1 p.m."

"He worked with 49ers wide receivers Quinton Patton and Bruce Ellington, as well as players from other NFL teams, including Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry, Ricardo Lockette and Darrius Heyward-Bey. Top draft prospects Kevin White, Dorial Green-Beckham and Jaelen Strong also regularly attended the workouts."

:cool::cool::cool:
 
Waiting for LargeBills to spin this Chris Borland news as a positive...
Yea this team will be okay, yea we're going back to the SuperBowl this year
Good luck trying to stop Marshawn Lynch AND Jimmy Graham

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:



Chris Borland didn't retire...he quit...he quit on the team
If anyone would leave b/c of concussions I would expect for it to be Eric Reid
Justin Smith minus whale go ahead & say he's retiring too, spare us the drama

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Quarterback Colin Kaepernick’s 10-week offseason session in Arizona is over

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/coa...ore-consistent-efficient?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo



"Every weekday for the past 10 weeks, Kaepernick conditioned and lifted weights at the EXOS training facility in Phoenix from 8 to 10:30 a.m. Then, he would spend time in the film room, work on his mechanics and throw passes until approximately 1 p.m."

"He worked with 49ers wide receivers Quinton Patton and Bruce Ellington, as well as players from other NFL teams, including Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry, Ricardo Lockette and Darrius Heyward-Bey. Top draft prospects Kevin White, Dorial Green-Beckham and Jaelen Strong also regularly attended the workouts."

:cool::cool::cool:

Encouraging.
Hopefully the offensive coaching staff does their job and the line does their job to keep him upright.
The only quarterback in the NFL who doesn't need consistent time and can thrive under consistent pressure is aaron rodgers.
that's it, that's the list.
 
Waiting for LargeBills to spin this Chris Borland news as a positive...
Yea this team will be okay, yea we're going back to the SuperBowl this year
Good luck trying to stop Marshawn Lynch AND Jimmy Graham

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:



Chris Borland didn't retire...he quit...he quit on the team
If anyone would leave b/c of concussions I would expect for it to be Eric Reid
Justin Smith minus whale go ahead & say he's retiring too, spare us the drama

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I said what I felt about Borland.

Borland quit- he wasn't going to stop graham or lynch he wouldn't be guarding graham bowman would've been.

The seahawks lost their pro bowl center
somehow that's just OK right? no pro bowl center and no 1st round pick.. no problem? you guys got more faith in them that the moves we've made lol
 
I said what I felt about Borland.

Borland quit- he wasn't going to stop graham or lynch he wouldn't be guarding graham bowman would've been.

The seahawks lost their pro bowl center
somehow that's just OK right? no pro bowl center and no 1st round pick.. no problem? you guys got more faith in them that the moves we've made lol



From the Seattle message boards that I've read, he was not their best player on the O-line
But whatever fam
The point I was making is that, you need to have realistic expectations about this coming season
Not every move is going to work out for the best
We will see what happens when the season starts


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What Kap worked on:

I'd say the most important thing we wanted to work on was biomechanics. Getting him to understand the position from a scientific standpoint, and saying, OK, how can I be the best mechanically I can be. Like a Tom Brady or some of these guys who are the greatest to ever play.

The one thing that's crazy about Colin Kaepernick is how coachable he is. And when I say coachable, I don't really mean, "yes, sir", "no, sir". How he can take something he has never done before in his life, what he's been doing his whole life, and instantly change it and never go back to it. And that has to do with his athletic ability, but it also has to do with how intelligent he is. He's a super-intelligent, photographic person. And I don't think a lot of people understand how super-intelligent this guy really is. To the point where the game is pretty simple to him in his mind. How that translates to the team he's playing for, the offense that he's running, would correlate from different team to different coach. But, the guy's super coachable, probably the most coachable guy I've ever worked with. And by far the most physically talented guy I've ever worked with.

So those are things that we really worked on. Obviously worked in the class room, and Kurt Warner came over with us and worked on stuff when he had time. But for the most part it was biomechanics and classroom.

On how Gile and Kap connected:

His agent called me and said that he wanted to come out here and work with me. Liked the fact that I had Kurt Warner around the corner to get his side of things as well. And obviously Kurt's time was so limited. In the ten weeks we got to train, his time was super limited, to maybe one day a week because of the Super Bowl, and family and other things at NFL Network he had going on.

His dad called me about halfway in and said that Colin had never really trusted someone like this, and that he told him that he trusted me with everything. So that was a pretty cool deal to here. Someone of his stature and the point that he's at in his career, where he's at. He didn't have to do that, but he wants to become one of the greatest to ever play the game. And he doesn't ever really tell you that, he just proves it to you. He's always the first one to show up at the workouts in the morning. He's always the last one to leave. He's always trying to get better in every aspect of football, whether that's throwing, classroom work, some other stuff that we've got down here. They sought me out, and it ended up being a great relationship for us.

On biomechanics and if they tightened up his throwing motion even more:

I think everyone's going to be super surprised when they see him. I don't really want to get into specifically like I said, exactly what we changed. But everyone's going to see a totally different throwing motion from what they've seen out of Colin Kaepernick in the past.

On developing the short passing game and touch:

I think his firm with the arc ball, his touch ball, the deep ball are things that people are really going to notice, like, "hey, he just threw that ball over the linebacker, got it up and down with enough touch to get over him, but yet it never sailed on him to get to the safety." He mastered a lot of that stuff in a ten week period of time, which was pretty incredible, and obviously that was a strong point that we were looking at. Hey, let's get you touch when you need touch, and let you throw it through someone's chest if you absolutely have to to fit into a window.

I think that was his biggest challenge while watching his film, was the touch balls. Even though he didn't have a lot of challenges, I thought that he excelled in that area tremendously.

On the Nerf ball:

That was a misunderstanding. We did not ever use a Nerf ball. But we did various different drills, drops on and off platforms, to help him get to where he felt comfortable with just basically using the stuff that he needed to to get it up and down. He has it. He's mastered this craft we've worked with very fast, and he's gonna seek to keep that going, which is unbelievable. It says a lot about the guy's character, and who he wants to become. And obviously, he wants to become the greatest, one of the greatest of all time. And in my humble opinion, he has the ability to do that both physically and mentally.

On simulating when first read isn't there, have to re-set and change launch point:

I think what Colin did before was, and that was one of his other challenges, he played with a really narrow base, which makes it hard for anybody to go through their progression, 1 to 2, 2 to 3, 3 to 4, whatever it may be, it makes it hard. So when you get a base it makes it a lot easier, so your feet are outside of your shoulders, all your cleats are in the ground, you're able to tie your eyes to your feet and move through those reads. I don't think, there's a lot more that goes into what happened in the past, which I will never get into, because it's not for me to say. And there's a lot that people don't understand about what happened in the past. I think a lot of that will change now, and hopefully he can show people how good he really can be.

On whether he has quick feet in the pocket:

Yea, really quick. So, Tyrod Taylor, who is a good buddy of his, and is also super athletic, he trains with him. He came down here and they push each other on their footwork. We worked on footwork every single day before and during the workouts. So, their footwork is not going to get much faster than what they do. At times they need to slow down if that does anything. They got enough quickness with their feet to get away from anything, and to do anything they want. It's just, being able to put it together from head to toe and the understanding of what we're trying to get them to do, while doing that. And it took him two or three days to get that down mentally. So he understands it, and it's totally different because he's never had a quarterback coach before, so he's always just based his game off of how athletic he was, and his arm strength and stuff like that. And I did that too until I started learning from some of the greatest to ever teach and play the game. So it's a totally different feeling. What I told Colin is that in the pocket I want him to be Tom Brady. And when he's not in the pocket, I want him to be himself. And I mean that from a standpoint where he doesn't have to feel like he has to get out and run unless he absolutely has to. And the reason I use Tom is because I think he's the best biomechanical quarterback of all time. In hindsight, it makes him maybe the greatest quarterback to ever play the game, and one of the reasons is he is also mechanically sound in what he does.

On the film room and what Kurt helped with:

Well, Kurt, like I said, helped when he could. It was limited at times, but he gave Colin a lot of good tools to work with when it comes to watching film or looking at plays. The one thing that Kurt and I really tried to touch base on was, you want to have plays that can beat any type of coverage. You don't ever want to go into a situation where you say, let's just beat Cover 2 or Tampa in this situation. Let's go into a play thinking, well this play, no matter what will beat any coverage. Now it's just a matter of me finding the guy, me having a post-snap look saying it is Cover 3, it is Cover 4, it is Tampa, or it is 1 or 0, and saying OK, well on this play I know on 1 I this guy will be open, so I can take my eyes from 1 and get off him because it's 0 and I can get back to this guy.

That's the one thing we tried to help him out with, to figure out what situation are you in, and how can you get yourself out of it. And Colin, like I said, blew me away, the part that blew me away the most with Colin was how intelligent he really is, and how photographic his memory really is. People say, he can't read the field, he's not smart enough, this and that. And, they're mistaken. He's very intelligent, he gets it, like I said, he has a very photographic memory, so his pre- and post-snap look, it's very decisive at times, it's just everything has to match up to where all 11 guys and coaches are on the same page. I'm not saying that they weren't, I'm just saying that watching film, you don't know what's really going on unless you're there and understand the play-calling and you know what's going on.

Like I said, I think he did a great job. And is he perfect? By no means, he can get better. Everyone can get better. But I think he's a lot more intelligent than most everyone gives him credit for.

On watching film other quarterbacks:

We mostly watched film of him. We did watch some other stuff, but we wanted to pay attention to what he was doing because basically that's what's most important. But yea, we watched some film of what other teams and guys did, but not as much as watched of him. The thing we really wanted to get was the 49ers playbook, but Geep getting hired as offensive coordinator now, they're not all the way done with it. So, hopefully before the season starts, if there's anything we can help him out with on that aspect of it and they get the playbook, we'll do that. But not having their new playbook yet, we weren't able to do a lot with what they're going to do, but we went over everything they used to do. Hopefully that helped him out, and he said it did. But like I said, the kid is really smart, and he's going to master it, and he's not going to stop himself until he does. And that's what I've seen out of him over the last ten weeks.

On molding their stuff with 49ers offensive philosophy and plans:

I don't think that, it doesn't matter what playbook you run or what offense you run, if you have true bio-mechanics, it's going to fit into any system that you run, as long as you're throwing the ball and it's not just a zone-read system. I don't think that we'll be far off from what they're trying to do mechanically. He'll be able to make all the throws, and that's the good thing about bio-mechanics is that you can make every single throw. It doesn't matter what you're doing, it doesn't matter how you're doing it, it doesn't matter if you're underneath center or in shotgun. It doesn't matter if you're rolling out, or if you're setting up on a half-roll. It covers the bases of every type of throw you're going to make on and off platform. And I think that's what we try and focus on the most, is say, OK, I don't care what situation you're in, we're going to put you in the best situation to throw this ball the most accurate with the most timing. And the thing that we really wanted to touch base with on Colin is that we wanted him to be more consistent, more efficient. And if he did that he would be very dangerous. Even though he's already dangerous, it would make him just more dangerous. The more consistent and efficient he can be at that position, obviously the more games you can win and put your team in the best situations

On communication on changing mechanics:

I wouldn't say we changed, I'm gonna let Colin tell you about all that, and let him see, we just tried to work on the things that we know from that standpoint, from sports science, from Brady, from Belichick or the people that were, that I've learned from and be taught from. Obviously working with Trent Dilfer, him being one of my mentors, all these different people and all these things we've come up with on the proper way to do things, are the things we try to emphasize to him. And some of the stuff he already did, and some of the stuff he had challenges with. But like I said, nothing's really a challenge to him. He conquers stuff really fast. I wouldn't say we changed a whole lot, or we did or we didn't. I want to let him answer that for you guys. I know he'll be back in town soon, and he can hopefully answer that for you. And if not, you'll see it sooner than later and it'll kind of speak for itself. I just don't ever want to get into one of these conversations, because it's not about me, it's about the players. And second of all, they ask me to keep things confidential at times, and let them speak of it themselves. And I'm always going to respect my athletes.

On confidence Kap will take this groundwork into games in the fall and not revert:

I'm pretty confident in that. And I don't think that our work together is over, so any way that I can keep working with him in the near future, and with the coaching staff, if they want my opinion or anything. I think that it's not going to go away because he is going to be constantly reminded of it on a daily basis, however that works out. i'm confident with someone like him, he's so coachable and he's so athletic that he can change things at the drop of a dime. He can self-correct so fast. It's to the point where now he can feel something as soon as he releases it, "Oh man, I did this", or "Oh man, I did that." I don't want to get into specifics, but he can feel it and he can change it. It's almost to the point where halfway through he was coaching himself before I could even say anything to him. And so, I truly believe that he is going to be able to do it when bullets are flying, or when he is about to get blasted or has no one in front of him. That's how highly I think of Colin Kaepernick, and that's my humble opinion. It might not be someone else's, but from what I've seen, I think he's going to do tremendous.
 
So this is the play that ended Borlands career...:smh: I was calling him a pussy when I saw it when it happened, but for it to be the play to end his career..:smh: My god, it gets no soft pussier than this..
 
how do you guys feel about the best defensive or offensive linemen in round 1 and then this guy in the 2nd round

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/breshad-perriman?id=2552597
?

I am all for both especially offensive linemen... Because if you look at the top teams they seldom have great wr's and running backs, but they all have great offensive lines..
Give a good qb enough time to throw and wr's enough time to run their routs you will get production..
 
I am all for both especially offensive linemen... Because if you look at the top teams they seldom have great wr's and running backs, but they all have great offensive lines..
Give a good qb enough time to throw and wr's enough time to run their routs you will get production..

yea plus this guy is a beast, already had a 1st round grade has the same size as any of the other guys his only crime is going to a small school and that can happen for any number of reasons but being that big and strong and running a 4.2 ain't nothing to sneeze at.
 
The problem I had with Harbo, Singleton and all those ra-ra coaches from the 85 Bear legacy, is that they are such good motivators that the players often get so siked up that they are ready to smash through walls for the coach, that is until they breakdown mentally and physically realizing it was all bullshit..
In worst cases players become dependent on constant gassing up, in order to feel superior, but in others, players simply over achieve for a few years raise their value up then when reality creeps in they start to come down...
I saw it happen with the Jets and Rex and to a lesser degree with Sing..
Now, we need to build our team toughness back up, and instead of doing it with inspiring speeches and slogans, lets do it the real way, lets do it where it counts the most, starting with the trenches.. Because in my opinion nothing drains out the mojo of a club faster than watching your 300lb line men get pushed around and bullied on the line..
Shit, how can you even evaluate your skilled set players if your qb only has 2 secs to throw the ball... Until we get the proper line help we don't even know who and what we have on this club..
 
I see we finally release Jonathan Martin!!..good!!..:dance::dance:..fuck that soft sorry no blocking ass dude!!..:smh::smh:

:lol::lol::lol:

Yea Jonathan Martin & Blaine Gabbert were Harbaugh's guys.
I wish we would have cut Gabbert also
But 1 out of 2 ain't bad, I guess

:yes:

just no other qb's out there. heard we might be kicking the tires on Mike Vick. but we're bringing in some drafted guy in the later rounds for sure. it only makes sense to..

of course people are going to take it as a negative and say we drafted whoever we drafted because we want to get rid of kap.. that's just how the media views us at this point.
 
Here's a nice breakdown of pass rushers that will be available when we pick
Bud Dupree VS Randy Gregory





 
If we go defense in the 1st round, the choices we're looking at are....

Bud Dupree
Randy Gregory

Danny Shelton
Arik Armstead

Trae Waynes
Kevin Johnson
Marcus Peters


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Stephone Anthony in the 2nd round would be nice. I think Mckinney might go in Round 1

http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/3/...ick-mckinney-nfl-draft-visit-stephone-anthony



Yea we will probably draft an Inside LB, in the 2nd or 3rd round
This week, the offseason workout program started
So they can at least evaluate some of our guys coming back from injury
Like Brandon Thomas, Kendall Hunter & Bowman

Check Hunter at the 44 second mark
Check Thomas at the 54 second mark
(Thomas still has a brace on his knee) :(


 
Here is my reasoning why we need to focus on the offensive line before we do anything... I have one simple motto in sports, either you are winning championships or you are evaluating your talent towards winning championships..
Next year, unless a whole lot of good shit breaks our way, will not be a championship year for us, and to me just making the playoffs is not that big of a consolation if it doesn't improve our status for the following season..
Our problem is that, we are absolutely clueless about the talent we have on offense... We are not even that sure as to what we have at the qb position, how can we, with last year's playbook, and Kaep having, on average 4 secs to throw the ball before he got pounded..
As I mentioned before, all the top 4 teams from last year, the Broncos, the Patriots, Seattle and Packers all lack that classic number all pro wr, instead they have serviceable guys a good qb and all have very good offensive lines..
Now we know Kaep can be good, but we need to find out how good, and how can we judge our wr's when we can't even accurately judge our qb...
ONe thing for certain is that our offensive line sucks, so the sooner we fix that the sooner we can figure out what we have on the offensive side of the ball..
As far as defense we can always pick up guys over the next few years and its much easier to access their standing and growth on the field...
 
Here is my reasoning why we need to focus on the offensive line before we do anything...



This coming season our starting O-line will look like this...

J.Staley --- B.Thomas/Rookie --- M.Martin/D.Killgore --- A.Boone --- A.Davis
(plus we will draft a backup/swing tackle, which would give us a total of 8 O-linemen)



What round we draft a Guard will depend on how healthy Brandon Thomas is right now
I think Thomas can be a pretty good starter if healthy
But the problem is, how is his knee holding up so far
Check that video I just posted, he's still wearing a brace & it has already been a whole year since he tore his ACL

Honestly the 15th pick is kinda high to take a guard
Hell Iupati wasnt taken until like our 19th pick
If you look at most mock drafts, there's only 2 O-linemen that we can target with our 1st round pick
We can take Brandon Scherff
Or we can take La'El Collins & move him inside
Staley & Anthony Davis are already locked up for the future, so we aren't taking someone to play tackle with our 1st round pick

Like I said before, we might have to trade up a bit to get OUR guy
Most of the playmakers that fit our needs, will go in the top 14 selections
The way I see it the 49ers are probably looking at that 1st tier of WR's (Cooper, White, Parker)
Or they could go with an O-linemen (Scherff, Collins)
Or a since Tomsula was a D-line coach I could see us looking at (Danny Shelton)
Shelton would be the perfect run stuffing nose to slow down Marshawn Lynch
He would occupy 2 men on every play, freeing up our pass rushers & inside LB's to go 1-on-1



The 49ers board probably looks something like this...
1. Kevin White
2. Amari Cooper
3. DeVante Parker
4. Brandon Scherff
5. La'El Collins
6. Danny Shelton
And it all depends on who slips out of the top10
I think we can afford to give up one of our 4th round picks to jump up like 5 spots, to get OUR guy
Or worse case scenario, if they are all gone, we drop back 5-10 spots & grab an extra 3rd round pick

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This coming season our starting O-line will look like this...

J.Staley --- B.Thomas/Rookie --- M.Martin/D.Killgore --- A.Boone --- A.Davis
(plus we will draft a backup/swing tackle, which would give us a total of 8 O-linemen)



What round we draft a Guard will depend on how healthy Brandon Thomas is right now
I think Thomas can be a pretty good starter if healthy
But the problem is, how is his knee holding up so far
Check that video I just posted, he's still wearing a brace & it has already been a whole year since he tore his ACL

Honestly the 15th pick is kinda high to take a guard
Hell Iupati wasnt taken until like our 19th pick
If you look at most mock drafts, there's only 2 O-linemen that we can target with our 1st round pick
We can take Brandon Scherff
Or we can take La'El Collins & move him inside
Staley & Anthony Davis are already locked up for the future, so we aren't taking someone to play tackle with our 1st round pick

Like I said before, we might have to trade up a bit to get OUR guy
Most of the playmakers that fit our needs, will go in the top 14 selections
The way I see it the 49ers are probably looking at that 1st tier of WR's (Cooper, White, Parker)
Or they could go with an O-linemen (Scherff, Collins)
Or a since Tomsula was a D-line coach I could see us looking at (Danny Shelton)
Shelton would be the perfect run stuffing nose to slow down Marshawn Lynch
He would occupy 2 men on every play, freeing up our pass rushers & inside LB's to go 1-on-1



The 49ers board probably looks something like this...
1. Kevin White
2. Amari Cooper
3. DeVante Parker
4. Brandon Scherff
5. La'El Collins
6. Danny Shelton
And it all depends on who slips out of the top10
I think we can afford to give up one of our 4th round picks to jump up like 5 spots, to get OUR guy
Or worse case scenario, if they are all gone, we drop back 5-10 spots & grab an extra 3rd round pick

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I am the first to admit to ignorance when it comes to judging OL talent, but I am at the firm belief that you sometimes have to draft a lot of them, throw the shit on the wall hopping some would stick.. Plus they get injured so often that you can never have enough... I don't know what it takes, but the point of emphasis this off-season should be giving Keap more than three sec to make decisions and throw.. If it takes something drastic such as drafting OL in the first and say third rounds, so be it.. All I know is that our situation will not change and we will not be able to fully know the talent or lack of talent we have unless we first give them a shot to be able to perform..
 
Curt don't worry too much about the brace. Lots of linemen just wear them after injury and even pre injury. they don't have to be as fluid as a back or linebacker or db so it isn't that big of an issue as far as determining whether he's healthy or not.
 
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