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So they're going to put Alexander or someone else on that list I just posted? lol
they'll be doomed if they do. you paying that man too much money for him to be nazir mohammed

Alexander?

Some of the dudes you posted are four's. Howard & Jordan aren't offensively gifted. Kanter is still young and isn't even starting. Gasol is the only traditional 5 who would problematic for LA
 
The steph curry look alike they got that play in the 2nd unit

Oh Kyle Anderson. He's still young but he can bulk up and guard the four's. His 6'10 and has quick feet. He ran the point at UCLA. He's just gotta get more playing time

He's also getting groomed by great vets which can only help his career.
 
Only small ball five is Draymond Green. Everybody else still keeps it big for their 5. My point is when Timmy leaves he won't be guarding the four's anymore. He's too slow to guard the four's now. That's why he looks so bad on defense now
And if you slide him to the 5.. Who will he guard beside MAYBE Cousins, and thats only a body to body (size) assessment. Hes also not a great rim protector or inside defender.. Traditional PF is his position. Him as a starting 5 in todays game aint gonna be awesome. And Green isnt the only small ball 5 bro.

He gonna have to adjust his game and lose some weight to compensate for his slow feet.
 
And if you slide him to the 5.. Who will he guard beside MAYBE Cousins, and thats only a body to body (size) assessment. Hes also not a great rim protector or inside defender.. Traditional PF is his position. Him as a starting 5 in todays game aint gonna be awesome. And Green isnt the only small ball 5 bro.

He gonna have to adjust his game and lose some weight to compensate for his slow feet.

Gasol, Cousins, Jordan, Howard are all big centers (245 & up) and Draymond the only undersized 5 I know of and that's in spurts. I can't say how he would be at the five because he's never played the position but I think we can agree he's too slow at this point to deal with stretch 4's
 
Oh Kyle Anderson. He's still young but he can bulk up and guard the four's. His 6'10 and has quick feet. He ran the point at UCLA. He's just gotta get more playing time

He's also getting groomed by great vets which can only help his career.
Nah bruh.. Kyle slow as fuck. He has the opposite of quick feet. He is a very good passer, will be a quality facilitator and will probably develop a reliable long ball in time. But he aint nobodies fast OR quick. Its gonna be interesting to see what/who he develops into.
 
Gasol, Cousins, Jordan, Howard are all big centers (245 & up) and Draymond the only undersized 5 I know of and that's in spurts.
And he cant defend any of those guys... He can body up with Cousins tho due to size and the fact Cousins has a floor game. Most teams have a smallish guy to slide into the 5 for small ball tho.
 
Nah bruh.. Kyle slow as fuck. He has the opposite of quick feet. He is a very good passer, will be a quality facilitator and will probably develop a reliable long ball in time. But he aint nobodies fast OR quick. Its gonna be interesting to see what/who he develops into.

That's the beauty of the game. We don't know until we know. They gotta play it out
 
I never really understood what it was the Suns were trying to do with that roster

Nor these playoff expectations that they had

This shit ain't on the coach but hey somebody had to take the fall

They never understood what they were trying to do with their roster either...
 
The spurs issue is simple.

Tim Duncan is fucking amazing.

At 40 he leads the league in defensive plus minus and remains a top 3 rated overall defender.

With him gone, the entire system fails.

LA has slow feet on both sides of the court and struggles with smallball opponents. And it becomes very problematic with Duncan not there to cover his ass.

Spurs are finished in terms of going to finals; I dont think they would beat a healthy Clippers or OKC team in a series; not even mentioning GS; those defensive #s are misleading because of how the league has played overall this year; Duncan is finish and so is Manu and Parker; They have no one to replace them; Leonard is good/great on defense and hes solid on offense; but hes not about to carry this team; LA and Green are just regular guys; Ive been saying this since day one...
 
  • Cavs stars tackled accountability issue in players-only meeting

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    Brian Windhorst
    ESPN Senior Writer


The Cleveland Cavaliers have been invigorated over the past week following game plan changes by new coach Tyronn Lue, but it hasn't been the only event that has positively affected the team.

Following a meeting called by general manager David Griffin to inform the team that coach David Blatt had been fired, Cavs players held an extended and spirited players-only meeting, sources told ESPN.com. It turned into an airing of grievances, including by stars LeBron James, Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving, but eventually led to an agreement that has been a basis for the Cavs' recent strong play.

"It was like ripping off a scab," one team source said. "And it was exactly what needed to happen. I think it was what [Griffin] was hoping for."

Said another source: "It was very healthy for the team. It probably needed to happen weeks ago."

A central issue in the discussion, sources said, was the need for accountability within the team. One of the issues that was keeping the team from enjoying some of the successes of the season was the different set of rules for some players compared to others.

In what could turn out to be a key moment in their tenures together, James, Irving and Love came to an understanding that they needed to police each other on certain matters and use their influence within the team to set a standard for accountability, sources said. That was frequently a missing component over the past season and a half, sometimes creating friction.

Sources told ESPN.com's Dave McMenamin that James, Irving and Love led the conversation, owning up to personal faults and using the open forum to express what they expected out of their teammates.

"It's the type of conversation that only comes out when it's time for that conversation, if you know what I mean," a source said. The discussion got contentious at times, though sources said that it was expected.

James compared some of the Cleveland situation to his time with the Miami Heat. Other players challenged James on his need to set a stronger example, including with his effort level when he becomes frustrated, sources said.

Veteran James Jones played a key role in the gathering, both in bringing the players together and encouraging discussion, sources told McMenamin. Jones, whom players call by his nickname, "Champ," carries significant respect in the locker room.

Griffin asked Jones to organize the meeting. Players were told they were being called together to report to the Cavs' practice facility on their off day for a team matter. After Griffin addressed the team for 15 minutes and told them Lue was being promoted to head coach, the players stayed and discussed matters for around an hour. Lue did not address the team until the following morning at shootaround.

The Cavs lost their first game afterward to the Chicago Bulls, scoring just 83 points. But the mood in the locker room after the disappointing loss was more upbeat than following a quality home win over the Los Angeles Clippers 48 hours earlier.

The team has won the following four games including a 14-point win over the San Antonio Spurs on Saturday. Lue's focus on more active offense has seen the Cavs average 115 points during the winning streak.

After promising more elbow touches for Love, the forward has averaged nearly six elbow touches per game since Lue took over, an increase of 50 percent per game from his previous average, according to player tracking data on NBA.com. The new coach has also encouraged more aggressive play from Irving and altered rotations in an attempt to find space within games to feature each of the team's stars.

In both wins over the weekend, James, Irving and Love each scored more than 20 points, the first two times that that has happened this season.
 
Spurs are finished in terms of going to finals; I dont think they would beat a healthy Clippers or OKC team in a series; not even mentioning GS; those defensive #s are misleading because of how the league has played overall this year; Duncan is finish and so is Manu and Parker; They have no one to replace them; Leonard is good/great on defense and hes solid on offense; but hes not about to carry this team; LA and Green are just regular guys; Ive been saying this since day one...
Wrong.

Spurs will beat ANY team in the league in a 7 game series with GS being the exception. You clearly havent watched them play this season. They lead the lead in point differential and defensive rating. And have proven to be able to play uptempo and half court pace.
 
This something we've been touching on.

accountability, effort



  • Cavs stars tackled accountability issue in players-only meeting

    i

    Brian Windhorst
    ESPN Senior Writer

The Cleveland Cavaliers have been invigorated over the past week following game plan changes by new coach Tyronn Lue, but it hasn't been the only event that has positively affected the team.

Following a meeting called by general manager David Griffin to inform the team that coach David Blatt had been fired, Cavs players held an extended and spirited players-only meeting, sources told ESPN.com. It turned into an airing of grievances, including by stars LeBron James, Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving, but eventually led to an agreement that has been a basis for the Cavs' recent strong play.

"It was like ripping off a scab," one team source said. "And it was exactly what needed to happen. I think it was what [Griffin] was hoping for."

Said another source: "It was very healthy for the team. It probably needed to happen weeks ago."

A central issue in the discussion, sources said, was the need for accountability within the team. One of the issues that was keeping the team from enjoying some of the successes of the season was the different set of rules for some players compared to others.

In what could turn out to be a key moment in their tenures together, James, Irving and Love came to an understanding that they needed to police each other on certain matters and use their influence within the team to set a standard for accountability, sources said. That was frequently a missing component over the past season and a half, sometimes creating friction.

Sources told ESPN.com's Dave McMenamin that James, Irving and Love led the conversation, owning up to personal faults and using the open forum to express what they expected out of their teammates.

"It's the type of conversation that only comes out when it's time for that conversation, if you know what I mean," a source said. The discussion got contentious at times, though sources said that it was expected.

James compared some of the Cleveland situation to his time with the Miami Heat. Other players challenged James on his need to set a stronger example, including with his effort level when he becomes frustrated, sources said.

Veteran James Jones played a key role in the gathering, both in bringing the players together and encouraging discussion, sources told McMenamin. Jones, whom players call by his nickname, "Champ," carries significant respect in the locker room.

Griffin asked Jones to organize the meeting. Players were told they were being called together to report to the Cavs' practice facility on their off day for a team matter. After Griffin addressed the team for 15 minutes and told them Lue was being promoted to head coach, the players stayed and discussed matters for around an hour. Lue did not address the team until the following morning at shootaround.

The Cavs lost their first game afterward to the Chicago Bulls, scoring just 83 points. But the mood in the locker room after the disappointing loss was more upbeat than following a quality home win over the Los Angeles Clippers 48 hours earlier.

The team has won the following four games including a 14-point win over the San Antonio Spurs on Saturday. Lue's focus on more active offense has seen the Cavs average 115 points during the winning streak.

After promising more elbow touches for Love, the forward has averaged nearly six elbow touches per game since Lue took over, an increase of 50 percent per game from his previous average, according to player tracking data on NBA.com. The new coach has also encouraged more aggressive play from Irving and altered rotations in an attempt to find space within games to feature each of the team's stars.

In both wins over the weekend, James, Irving and Love each scored more than 20 points, the first two times that that has happened this season.
 
Wrong.

Spurs will beat ANY team in the league in a 7 game series with GS being the exception. You clearly havent watched them play this season. They lead the lead in point differential and defensive rating. And have proven to be able to play uptempo and half court pace.

None of those stats matter in a series; they have no one to guard RW; he can win OKC the series, not even mentioning KD; Big 3 are done clearly; Parker is a liability on defense(always has been); just his offense made up for it, which it doesnt anymore; Look at how they struggled against the Clips last year; You think they wont struggle against them this year?? You sir clearly dont watch basketball; as evident by you constantly saying the Spurs match up well/beat GS before they got their asses handed to them...
 
None of those stats matter in a series; they have no one to guard RW; he can win OKC the series, not even mentioning KD; Big 3 are done clearly; Parker is a liability on defense(always has been);
Its a two man team. Same as its been for how long now? When is the last time OKC beat a healthy contender in a postseason series?

Look at how they struggled against the Clips last year; You think they wont struggle against them this year??
They lost a 7 game series on a fluke shot with injured players. It happens. They are playing MUCH better ball this season... How does last years results come into play here?

You sir clearly dont watch basketball; as evident by you constantly saying the Spurs match up well/beat GS before they got their asses handed to them
When did i constantly say this? Refresh my memory please. And i already said they beat any team in a series today except GS. Not sure what you're talking about my man.
 
I know you glad GSW did not make that trade for Love:lol:
i never wanted love i saw him for what he was a long long long time ago.
cavs can still use him if they get him involved early but he would be a horrible fit with the warriors just off of his attitude. steph curry is fine with klay going for 35 and taking all the shots when he's off he don't pout.
that's not who kevin love is.
 
The Cavs should never try to get in close games, because they should know by now that all the 50-50 calls is going to go against them...
 
Plea coppin
Nope, watch the game, every close call that can go either way, I expect it to go against the CAvs... Think about it, when was the last time you ever heard anyone say the Cavs won because a bad call..
With that in mind they should always try to be up by 4 at the end of games..
 
The Cavs should never try to get in close games, because they should know by now that all the 50-50 calls is going to go against them...


Man these fuckers was up by 10 at halftime came out in the 3rd flat, laid a egg with 15 points... now they fighting :smh:
 
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