1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pics)

[Spectrum]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

OK but seriously to get your protein and all your nutrients you need to look into sprouting and soaking grains and legumes and nuts

http://www.raw-food-living.com/soaking-nuts.html
http://www.rawfoodfirst.com/raw-food-diets.html
http://www.living-foods.com/articles/sprouting.html

I eat lots of grains and raw nuts. However, I still do eat meat and always will. I will probably never go beyond 80-90 percent raw.


Thanks for the links. I have actually been on a couple of those sights already but yeah.. I have noticed that since starting the raw food diet the first adjustments I had to make where lowing my consumption of sugary fruits and also incorporating other fruits that are high in protein, etc.

it is still a work in progress for me....I am very early stage

 

[cozmic1]

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ill look through this thread later when i have time but damn u put me up on some shit. i didnt know THAT much sugar was in those products especially fruit. the soda is obvious but fruit? damn

 

[(0_0)..l.. finger]

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sugar is sugar

it all gets converted in the body the same way

who told you this?

c/s

 

[bigirl]

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I eat lots of grains and raw nuts. However, I still do eat meat and always will. I will probably never go beyond 80-90 percent raw.


Thanks for the links. I have actually been on a couple of those sights already but yeah.. I have noticed that since starting the raw food diet the first adjustments I had to make where lowing my consumption of sugary fruits and also incorporating other fruits that are high in protein, etc.

it is still a work in progress for me....I am very early stage

OK i will give you an example; you could lets say soak raw cashews and raw oats and put it in the blender and make a crust for either a fruit pie or savory vegetable tart

Or you could soak any raw nuts and add lemon or lime juice plus seasonings of choice and make "nut cheese"

just easy ways to incorporate

 

[Spectrum]

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so what youre saying is that diabetes is only occurring in rich nations?

come on bruh

Exactly Alex, if you do some research on this, diabetes, cancer, heath diseases, etc have a MUCH higher rate in terms of cause of death in Western Nations, especially in the U.S. with our SAD... a linked to our unhealthy eating habits full of processed foods, etc.

 

[alexw]

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I understand the context perfectly. If you are talking about sugars, it is impossible to have a relevant debate without both discussing natural and artificial sweeteners.

This is not left-field. Your premise that natural fruit is unhealthy BUT you can eat as much meat as you want is just simply a fallicous statement.

When did artificial sweeteners become sugar?

See above.

This is a health debate. You are discussing diabetes. I am telling you that we have documentaries on this board that show that not only do natural fruits not cause diabetes that the inclusion of fruits(in a raw food diet) can actually reverse the effects diabetes and cure people. Im not making this up. The damn video is on this board.

This was a debate on the ill effects of sugar. Not anything else. I stated that natural sugars creates fat. In return fat makes us unhealthy. Like I told you before, put my quotes in their proper context.

Come on Alex. Lets not confusion human behavior with science.

That like saying if cigarettes are so unhealthy, why do people smoke them.

That is the equivalent of your response.

Reading is good for language development...daily walks are great for cardiovacsular system.. but do people do them every day

No it isnt. Theres alot of books out there on raw diets. Its hard to believe that only a few are being cured because they have access to this information.

Come on bruh, your reasoning is absurd.[/QUOTE ]

where is that COME ON SON gif...especially considering your response above

Now dont get me wrong it may work for some but millions of people have diabetes.





You can get protein from fruits, nuts, etc. There are even plant based protein supplements. There are fruits that have HIGH protien bases...especially here in brasil..

Also, I said I am on a 70 percent raw good diet. I still eat chicken breasts, fish, and lean beat very occasionally.

But Alex.. you have not challenged the opinion of anyone scientifically or even logically.

The only thing you have done is thrown insults at people and not supported even ONE of your claims with ONE scienfically-based supposition.

I just find out very unlikely that you have read 200 health related books..

Its not my job to prove my knowledge. Thats time consuming and I have other things to do. If you dont believe it, prove me wrong. Ive stated this a million times in this thread.

As for books, yeah your right E. Only you and the other raw diet cats read bruh

And technically youre not even a raw dieter until you go 100%

 

[Spectrum]

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OK i will give you an example; you could lets say soak raw cashews and raw oats and put it in the blender and make a crust for either a fruit pie or savory vegetable tart

Or you could soak any raw nuts and add lemon or lime juice plus seasonings of choice and make "nut cheese"

just easy ways to incorporate

This is the kind of stuff I am have been trying lately... been reading up on raw good recipes.. because initally, if you dont know different recipes, it can be rather limiting .... but yeah.... I have been trying new things like that...thanks... I need to try more things though..

 

[malaki]

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so what youre saying is that diabetes is only occurring in rich nations?

come on bruh

the western diet creates a far higher rate of diabetes and its not even a fucking question.

go ahead and defend your statement about "if raw foods cured diabetes then why is there still diabetes". I dare you to defend that OR RETRACT IT. you are on this thread spewing misinformation, I'm not gonna let you move to the next point until you either defend that one or conceded you are WRONG.

 

[water]

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I just find it very unlikely that you have read 200 health related books.

 

[34real]

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I am telling you that we have documentaries on this board that show that not only do natural fruits not cause diabetes that the inclusion of fruits(in a raw food diet) can actually reverse the effects diabetes and cure people

See,man,hhhmmm,this message is very misleading and have lead to people I know deaths.

It can cure in the fact of not having to take insulin or medication but it can never cure type 2 diabetes.

I used to take lot of injects through out the day but now Im down to three low dosages of injects(insulin) a day and I probably could do as you say"CURE" my diabetes but able to balance myself out and not take any insultin at all but thats really hard or harder than it looks and risky.

If I could cure myself of this shit I would in a heartbeat and I think I say that on the behalf of alot of people who suffer from this samething.

 

[D Town Redd]

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HFCS - High Fructose Corn Syrup kills. Pass the word. Shit not only causes diabetes but GOUT and, because of chemical reactions, HEART FAILURE.

 

[bigirl]

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alexw do you really think an obese mcdonalds eating middle american would so easily switch to raw foods let alone even know where to get the ingredients?

 

[alexw]

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the western diet creates a far higher rate of diabetes and its not even a fucking question.

go ahead and defend your statement about "if raw foods cured diabetes then why is there still diabetes". I dare you to defend that OR RETRACT IT. you are on this thread spewing misinformation, I'm not gonna let you move to the next point until you either defend that one or conceded you are WRONG.

what are you talking about?

a far higher rate means what?

it damn sure doesnt mean all

there are diabetics all over the world, its just not reported

their have been diabetics since the beginning of time

so what is your point?

since your daring me


ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww im scared

 

[alexw]

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alexw do you really think an obese mcdonalds eating middle american would so easily switch to raw foods let alone even know where to get the ingredients?

sweetheart what does that have to do with the original sugar debate?

dont be like E, stay on topic boo

 

[Spectrum]

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Its not my job to prove my knowledge.

The burden of proof is on the one making the clames. Basic tenet of logic brah.

Thats time consuming and I have other things to do. If you dont believe it, prove me wrong. Ive stated this a million times in this thread.

You need to prove your claims. I dont need to prove that you dont have a yellow and blue striped elephant in your close. You need to prove that you do have one.

However, watch the documentary posted in this very thread proving people being cured of diabetes on a rawfood diet.

As for books, yeah your right E. Only you and the other raw diet cats read bruh

It has nothing to do with what you particularly believe in. I am going off the fact that you are making lots of claims without supporting your argument.

In subjects that I have read 100s of books like you claim (for instance, business history) I can give dates, facts, names, companies, theories, etc off the top of the dome very quickly without needing to go back to any source to support an argument. Having read hundreds of books on something (like you claim) should give a person easy access.

It is just not present in your argument.

And technically youre not even a raw dieter until go 100%

Right..

and if you are not a Shiite, you really are not a REAL muslim.

and if you cant trace your immediate ancestors to Africa, you arent a real AFRICAN american, etc.



There is no criteria that you need to go 100 RAW to be a raw foodist. Where did you get that from.

There are all types of sects with the raw food community just like there are 100s of denominations of Christianity.

Howeve, there is no governing body or authoritative set of principles that says you are not a raw foodist unless you go 100 PERCENT RAW.

 

[Les W]

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AlexW

Sometimes we all need to fall back when we think we know something and go back and re-learn it or listen to other people...

If 10-15 people who are dropping links to back their facts up are coming at you, why put up a fight?

We all believe different things about a diet and all have different goals so broad generalizations are silly imo...yet facts are facts, and all carbohydrates are not created equal


Kaya you don't shop at Whole Foods I take it.

 

[bigirl]

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No it isnt. Theres alot of books out there on raw diets. Its hard to believe that only a few are being cured because they have access to this information.

I was replying to this quote alex

 

[alexw]

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AlexW

Sometimes we all need to fall back when we think we know something and go back and re-learn it or listen to other people...

If 10-15 people who are dropping links to back their facts up are coming at you, why put up a fight?

We all believe different things about a diet and all have different goals so broad generalizations are silly imo...yet facts are facts, and all carbohydrates are not created equal


Kaya you don't shop at Whole Foods I take it.

what are you talking about, the two links that were put up basically supported my claim.

one dude, didnt even understand his link

 

[CoTtOnMoUf]

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And dude, the raw diet is ridiculous. Youre trippen. Any minor nutritionist will tell you that.

ok.

now i know, you're just talkin out the side of your neck.



hey alexw...

 

[Les W]

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HFCS - High Fructose Corn Syrup kills. Pass the word. Shit not only causes diabetes but GOUT and, because of chemical reactions, HEART FAILURE.

The only HFCS I'll take in is with gum, and I had to search far and wide to find one without aspartame

Besides that all dried fruits for me.

I am HELLA proud of my diet I eat like a CHAMP

 

[bigirl]

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Black raw food history:
http://www.pearmagazine.com/online/2007/feb-mar/blackhistory.html

 

[Spectrum]

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alexw,

HOLD UP. You just edited your initial reply.

DID YOU JUST SAY NATURAL SUGAR ACTUALLY CREATE FATS.

This is VERY awkwardly written. You dont mean this literally do you

 

[therealjondoe]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

i'ma find you and make you pay for your penchant for black pussy. were your ancestors slave owners?

listening to your comedy act is payment enough,no?

 

[malaki]

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what are you talking about?

a far higher rate means what?

it damn sure doesnt mean all

there are diabetics all over the world, its just not reported

their have been diabetics since the beginning of time

so what is your point?

since your daring me


ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww im scared

uh, so you don't understand what rate of diabetes means what kind of village idiot are you? the US diabetes rate has DOUBLED in 10 years! http://health.usnews.com/articles/h...f-diabetes-cases-doubles-in-10-years-cdc.html - so CLEARLY something is getting worse. i'd say DIET and LIFESTYLE are the obvious culprits.

ONCE AGAIN defend your statement, or you are just exposing how intellectually dishonest you are. so go ahead, explain how raw foods can't help diabetes since if it did then there would be no diabetes

 

[Les W]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

OK but seriously to get your protein and all your nutrients you need to look into sprouting and soaking grains and legumes and nuts

http://www.raw-food-living.com/soaking-nuts.html
http://www.rawfoodfirst.com/raw-food-diets.html
http://www.living-foods.com/articles/sprouting.html

I hope you are soaking in non-tap water...many people sleep on tap water in food.

 

[bigirl]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

I hope you are soaking in non-tap water...many people sleep on tap water in food.

definitely

 

[alexw]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

The burden of proof is on the one making the clames. Basic tenet of logic brah.



You need to prove your claims. I dont need to prove that you dont have a yellow and blue striped elephant in your close. You need to prove that you do have one.

However, watch the documentary posted in this very thread proving people being cured of diabetes on a rawfood diet.




It has nothing to do with what you particularly believe in. I am going off the fact that you are making lots of claims without supporting your argument.

In subjects that I have read 100s of books like you claim (for instance, business history) I can give dates, facts, names, companies, theories, etc off the top of the dome very quickly without needing to go back to any source to support an argument. Having read hundreds of books on something (like you claim) should give a person easy access.

It is just not present in your argument.


Right..

and if you are not a Shiite, you really are not a REAL muslim.

and if you cant trace your immediate ancestors to Africa, you arent a real AFRICAN american, etc.



There is no criteria that you need to go 100 RAW to be a raw foodist. Where did you get that from.

There are all types of sects with the raw food community just like there are 100s of denominations of Christianity.

Howeve, there is no governing body or authoritative set of principles that says you are not a raw foodist unless you go 100 PERCENT RAW.

dude everything ive "claimed" can be proven. Fact too much sugar regardless of its type will be turned into fat. A combination of sugar with carbs is a precursor for diabetes. You cannot burn fat if there is an overabundance of sugar in your body.

these are my original claims in this thread

so once again what are you talking about?

I told you to read from my very 1st post in this thread.

Dont just jump in with an opinion

youre killing me E

youre going way off topic to appear knowledgeable

i gave you 1000% facts

you can call it whatever

if you want supreme health...eat meat and vegetables daily, as much as you desire

load up on carbs twice a week as much as you desire

its that fuckin simple bruh

the diabetics in this thread know this is 100

 

[Spectrum]

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See,man,hhhmmm,this message is very misleading and have lead to people I know deaths.

If I could cure myself of this shit I would in a heartbeat and I think I say that on the behalf of alot of people who suffer from this samething.

Watch the documentary posted on this very board. It is not misleading if you understand the premise of the particular type of raw food diet the test subjects were on.

BTW.. EVERY test subject was cured of their diebetes in two months of less.

They were all in very controlled evironments and a series of blood tests were done daily to monitor results.

Dont take my word for it. I wouldnt take yours. Watch the documentary and read the accompanying studies. I wasnt a believe until I had done so myself. I dont expect anyone to take my word on anything.

People will be amazed by how effective organic raw food diet can be for the overall health of the human body.

 

[malaki]

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speaking of diabetes supposedly bitter melon is good for it:

 

[Spectrum]

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dude everything ive "claimed" can be proven.

Let us making this simple then.

Support the claim that the overconsumption of MEAT (you made a claim that you can eat as much meat as you want) has no negative effect on your short team or long term health.

Just do that. I am about to leave and will be back tonight. I would like to see you support this claim if it so easy.

You claim you dont have the time, but you have been posting in here for over an hour. You could have made on good post and shut it down. I do the shit all the time when necessary.

You should be able to do so in a short couple of paragraphs. But please do use some basic logic in your response. I am really..use some logical constructs.

You keep saying you can prove the shit... well prove it. You and I both have too many posts on this muthafuckas to use time as a crutch in terms of responding.

 

[alexw]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

uh, so you don't understand what rate of diabetes means what kind of village idiot are you? the US diabetes rate has DOUBLED in 10 years! http://health.usnews.com/articles/h...f-diabetes-cases-doubles-in-10-years-cdc.html - so CLEARLY something is getting worse. i'd say DIET and LIFESTYLE are the obvious culprits.

ONCE AGAIN defend your statement, or you are just exposing how intellectually dishonest you are. so go ahead, explain how raw foods can't help diabetes since if it did then there would be no diabetes

no you dont understand what rate of diabetes mean

just because one nation has a "higher rate" doesnt mean other countries are effected by this disease

i dont know where youre trying to go with this

hell even you dont know where youre trying to go with this

 

[Jack Spade]

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Great thread

 

[water]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

AlexW

Sometimes we all need to fall back when we think we know something and go back and re-learn it or listen to other people...

If 10-15 people who are dropping links to back their facts up are coming at you, why put up a fight?

We all believe different things about a diet and all have different goals so broad generalizations are silly imo...yet facts are facts, and all carbohydrates are not created equal


Kaya you don't shop at Whole Foods I take it.

yeah i shop at Whole foods but that is a glorified partial dump.........


They sell the bad stuff and the good stuff and they all are over priced.

In fact I ate some beet from their salad bar alst week and almost threw up, something that I have never done.

i now shop at the Asian market instead, wider variety, fresher fruits and a much larger selection.

they even have fruits and veggies from my home country which my body is already tuned to.....

 

[Spectrum]

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I hope you are soaking in non-tap water...many people sleep on tap water in food.

The one thing that I have learned about reading about going organic, etc.. is that it is a serious effort... I have been looking at water purification systems as well... the more I learn the more Im like..damn....

 

[alexw]

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Let us making this simple then.

Support the claim that the overconsumption of MEAT (you made a claim that you can eat as much meat as you want) has no negative effect on your short team or long term health.

Just do that. I am about to leave and will be back tonight. I would like to see you support this claim if it so easy.

You should be able to do so in a short couple of paragraphs. But please do use some basic logic in your response. I am really..use some logical constructs.

1 sentence

meat has more healthy nutrients than bad, plus veggies have anti carcinogens and antioxidents( thats why they should be consumed together).

now research it

now you show me where all of these people are sick because of meat consumption?

weve been eating meat since the beginning of time

and cancer has just become a major disease in the 100 years or so

come on bruh, do better

i