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►►► OFFICIAL UFC 154 - GSP / CONDIT - November 17th, 2012 - Montreal

DaAssWatcher said:
Since when has Silva been ducking Jones???
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Despite Anderson Silva’s continual insistence that he has little interest in fighting Jon Jones, the UFC middleweight champion was once again forced to address the issue following his dominant UFC 153 victory over Stephan Bonnar at HSBC Arena in Rio de Janeiro.

Though the middleweight champion is still resistant to the idea of facing the reigning light heavyweight pacesetter, the bout has nonetheless been a popular topic of conversation for fans and media alike. Even UFC President Dana White chimed in on the potential contest during Saturday night’s post-fight press conference, asserting that he would be able to convince “The Spider” to take the fight by appealing to his wallet.

“I know he’s been saying ‘no,’” said White, “but, for the amount of money that would be offered for that fight, I guarantee you I will make Anderson Silva say ‘yes.’”

Silva, however, immediately dismissed the idea that a large payday could sway him toward fighting “Bones.”
“Since I started training martial arts, I never fought for the money. I’m thankful for everything that I am able to get, because when I started, there was no money in this,” said Silva. “This is not something that I would like to haggle [over], because Jon Jones has also mentioned that he would not like the fight. I would not like for this to happen because of [the light heavyweights] on my team. We have other athletes in his division that can fight [Jones]. And I’m getting old, guys. Let Jon Jones have [the younger guys in his own division], you know?”
 
kes1111 said:
Despite Anderson Silva’s continual insistence that he has little interest in fighting Jon Jones, the UFC middleweight champion was once again forced to address the issue following his dominant UFC 153 victory over Stephan Bonnar at HSBC Arena in Rio de Janeiro.

Though the middleweight champion is still resistant to the idea of facing the reigning light heavyweight pacesetter, the bout has nonetheless been a popular topic of conversation for fans and media alike. Even UFC President Dana White chimed in on the potential contest during Saturday night’s post-fight press conference, asserting that he would be able to convince “The Spider” to take the fight by appealing to his wallet.

“I know he’s been saying ‘no,’” said White, “but, for the amount of money that would be offered for that fight, I guarantee you I will make Anderson Silva say ‘yes.’”

Silva, however, immediately dismissed the idea that a large payday could sway him toward fighting “Bones.”
“Since I started training martial arts, I never fought for the money. I’m thankful for everything that I am able to get, because when I started, there was no money in this,” said Silva. “This is not something that I would like to haggle [over], because Jon Jones has also mentioned that he would not like the fight. I would not like for this to happen because of [the light heavyweights] on my team. We have other athletes in his division that can fight [Jones]. And I’m getting old, guys. Let Jon Jones have [the younger guys in his own division], you know?”
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Now show me the quote with Jones saying he wants to fight Silva. I guarantee you if he ever says he wants it the fight will happen. If he wants it so bad he can go down to 185 and fight Silva.........
 
johniz said:
:confused:

WTF??

Hold on ...

WTF??

You do know Griffin beat Rampage for, oh i don't knoww the UFC LHW championship right??? Oviously not. C'mon m,an, I expect better from you.
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top it. Grifin was coming off being TKO'd by Evans when he got embarrassed by Silva and he basically leg kicked a decision over Rampage. It was not at all a dominant performance. Keith Jardin had beaten Griffin before Evans, bruh. :hmm: And, since the Silva fight, he's either eeked out or been gifted wins over Ortiz, gotten a UD over a washed up Franklin and was KO'd by Rua. Expect better from yourself, fam.
P03t said:
Henderson? :dunno: ...they have other contenders on the way...like Texira (sp?) & Gus...IMO LHW is a much more difficult division than MW & WW

they have much more talented fighters at LHW than MW & WW
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Glover Teixeira seems a bit overrated to me so far. Even if (when?) he beats Rampage, I still won't be convinced.e seems too one dimensional to beat Jones, but you're correct about him being fighter Jones needs to beat before moving up or people will say he ducked Glover.
 
asiam said:
Now show me the quote with Jones saying he wants to fight Silva. I guarantee you if he ever says he wants it the fight will happen. If he wants it so bad he can go down to 185 and fight Silva.........
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No way in the world Jones can make that cut. But Jones has been on record saying he doesn' want to be the guy to beat Anderson.
 
asiam said:
Now show me the quote with Jones saying he wants to fight Silva. I guarantee you if he ever says he wants it the fight will happen. If he wants it so bad he can go down to 185 and fight Silva.........
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They could fight at a catch-weight of 195, but neither of them want that fight. Jones would be a fool to cut that much weight, though.
 
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Best quote of the post-fight press conference so far.

Reporter asks Hendricks if the KO of Kampmann felt as good or better/worse than that of the Fitch one last year.

Hendricks noted the left doesn't have to fully connect, as it always feels solid.

"I'm a wrestler who can lay people out. Pretty sweet, isn't it?" (quietly puts microphone down / spits some chewing tobacco into water bottle, and media has a good laugh).


:lol:
 
Ming Fei Hong said:
They could fight at a catch-weight of 195, but neither of them want that fight. Jones would be a fool to cut that much weight, though.
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I am not allowing any excuses. Everyone wants Silva to move up weight or move down weight as if he is not the champ at 185. Now one of these pussies either gsp or jones needs to show and prove and move weight. Fuck em both..... Gsp spending the entire conference talking about he can not change his weight too much. Fucker walks around at damn near 200 pounds if not 200. Why does Jones and GSP get to stay at their weight and Silva has to move up or down. Only fair thing is to have these fights at catch weights.... :lol::lol:

Just a side note. Jon Jones is kind of shafting himself over . It is clear he will eventually have an impossible time making that 205 weight. Who knows maybe at 230 or so he will be much stronger.
 
asiam said:
I am not allowing any excuses. Everyone wants Silva to move up weight or move down weight as if he is not the champ at 185. Now one of these pussies either gsp or jones needs to show and prove and move weight. Fuck em both..... Gsp spending the entire conference talking about he can not change his weight too much. Fucker walks around at damn near 200 pounds if not 200. Why does Jones and GSP get to stay at their weight and Silva has to move up or down. Only fair thing is to have these fights at catch weights.... :lol::lol:

Just a side note. Jon Jones is kind of shafting himself over . It is clear he will eventually have an impossible time making that 205 weight. Who knows maybe at 230 or so he will be much stronger.
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GreaseSP is full of shit. :lol:
 
Ming Fei Hong said:
GreaseSP is full of shit. :lol:
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GSP fights scared. He always talks about how scared he is before a fight.How he's scared to lose, and scared to get embarrassed. Plus he fights safe. Now imagine trying to convince a guy like that to move up and fight the baddest man in the sport ever. A guy who just allowed a big 205er on steroids, to punch him in the face for giggles..:smh:
 
Ming Fei Hong said:
GreaseSP is full of shit. :lol:
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I know he is. Also the weight cutting is a reflection of the fighter... Anderson walks around at 220 pounds yet makes 185 every fight......Forrest griffin for example walks around at 240 pounds yet makes the 205 weight. What does Jon Jones walk around at? How are Jones and GSP be considered in the same Breath as a guy who can fight at 170 up.... all the way if he wanted too. And have fights where he is at 205 then back to 185..... Grease is best back peddler ever. Trying to be slick...saying he has to think while implying that it should be anderson who comes down in weight because he fought at 168 before and can move his body weight:lol::lol::lol:
 
Not to mention a lot of guys at 205 and 170 are guys Anderson chased out of 185. If bitch assed Vitor lived up to that black belt he has...He would have ripped Jones arm off.............vitor is on that playboy shit that Silva had to get at Maia for being. :lol:
 



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USA TODAY: The Georges St-Pierre business is booming
by Ben Fowlkes on Nov 16, 2012 at 9:00 am ET

(A condensed version of this story appeared in today's edition of USA TODAY.)

Georges St-Pierre will earn a hefty paycheck when he defends his title against Carlos Condit at UFC 154 in Montreal's Bell Centre on Saturday night, but the 31-year-old Canadian doesn't fight for the money anymore. He doesn't have to.

That's because within the past couple years of his lengthy title reign, the UFC welterweight champion has become a business unto himself. And even with a knee injury that has kept him out of the cage for more than 18 months, business is booming for the man known as GSP.

For instance, just in the last 12 months St-Pierre has signed lucrative endorsement deals with companies such as Coca-Cola, Google and Bacardi. He's got a deal with HarperCollins to write a book that he describes as part autobiography and part philosophy ("kind of like 'The Art of War,'" St-Pierre said). He's also renewed his apparel deal with Under Armour and signed one with noted MMA equipment manufacturer Hayabusa, all despite not setting foot in the UFC octagon since April of 2011 thanks to a torn ACL in his right knee.

According to industry sources, St-Pierre currently has 14 endorsement deals with each paying him somewhere in the six-figure range. If you tally up the numbers from past and present deals, his income outside the cage is well into eight figures, sources say, with much of it coming in the past year alone.

The question is, how does a fighter who hasn't fought in more than a year-and-a-half become such a magnet for blue chip sponsors while sitting on the sidelines? The answer, according to those who know him best, has to do with both St-Pierre's squeaky-clean image outside the cage and the team of high-powered agents in his corner.

"He's a superstar, and he was a superstar when we met him," said Mike Fonseca of Creative Artists Agency (CAA), which has represented St-Pierre for the past four years. "We just had to take him and figure out how we were going to market him."

The initial difficulty, according to Fonseca, lay not with St-Pierre's image but with the sport's. Most of the companies CAA first reached out to had heard of mixed martial arts and the UFC, but few thought that professional cagefighting was something worth hitching their wagon to.

"The first two years there were a lot of brands that wouldn't meet with us, wouldn't take our calls on this, and basically said, listen, we work with you on other clients, but this is not a sport we're interested in," Fonseca said.

It was a position that the team at CAA understood, he added, because they'd once felt that way themselves.

"As an agency, we were nervous about the sport," Fonseca said. "We didn't know much about it, but we sat down with Georges, and we fell in love with the guy. He's a really unique, interesting guy. I consider him sort of a Renaissance man. He's clearly one of the toughest pound-for-pound guys in the world, but he's also this really sweet, humble, articulate gentleman who wears suits everywhere. He's a different kind of guy."

That's why CAA gambled that the same things that put them at ease – St-Pierre's natural charm, his intelligence and his ability to avoid negative press – would be as successful in wooing even conservative brands such as Coca-Cola, which recently tapped St-Pierre as a spokesman for its NOS energy drink.

"We spent a lot of time with the Coke team in those meetings, getting them used to Georges and how they can use him," Fonseca said. "They're a very risk-averse company, but to Georges' credit, people fall in love with him."

That's good news not only for St-Pierre, who acknowledged that he's already made enough from fighting and endorsements to retire comfortably whenever he chooses, but also for the UFC and the sport itself. The would-be sponsors who once thought of MMA fighters as little more than glorified bar bouncers who would sully their image are now learning otherwise, thanks to GSP.

"I think what they want is a good athlete, somebody who has success in the sport, but also somebody who carries himself well outside of the sport," St-Pierre said. "They want a good spokesman and role model with a good image. That's who I am."

That combination of star-power and a safe image is not lost on UFC President Dana White, who insists that St-Pierre (22-2 MMA, 16-2 UFC) is "the biggest pay-per-view draw we've got." The welterweight champion, who meets interim champ Condit (28-5 MMA, 5-1 UFC) in a heavily promoted title-unification bout on Saturday, is also someone whom White has come to rely on as an ambassador for the company – and one of the few fighters he feels comfortable bringing to even non-fight-related meetings.

"There's no doubt that a guy like Georges St-Pierre helps the sport and the overall business," White said. "He's a guy you can rely on in every way, shape and form. He's a guy you can build your business around. You don't have to worry at night that you're going to wake up tomorrow with TMZ calling you saying crazy s---. Not with him."

While other UFC fighters and even champions have made news with DUI arrests or embarrassing public displays, St-Pierre has maintained his image of the philosophizing gentleman fighter, free of even the hint of scandal. That's helped make him a wealthy man both in and out of the cage, White said. But it also ensured that the UFC felt every month of his absence, especially when it came to PPV revenue.

"It hurts bad," White said. "It sucks. Listen, guys are going to get hurt and whatever, but you don't want GSP out."

Of course, that begs the question of what will happen when St-Pierre decides he's had enough of the rough business of professional fighting. With all the money he's made as champion, he no longer needs to do it for financial necessity, just like he no longer needs to slap the logo of whatever sponsors will have him onto his shorts in order to make an extra buck.

"I don't take any sponsors now that don't fit with me," St-Pierre said. "I don't do anything because I have to now. I do it because I want to."

So what happens when he doesn't want to fight anymore, and the UFC loses its biggest PPV draw? White's already considered that, though he insists he'd never try to talk a fighter into sticking around in such a dangerous sport just for the money – especially when his brand outside the cage is as lucrative as St-Pierre's is.

"He's been at that point for a while," White said. "It all depends on what your number is, what's your 'game over' number. But it's not about that for GSP. He's had 'game over' money for a long time."

In fact, St-Pierre said, he even considered calling it a career during a difficult rehabilitation process following his knee surgery this past December. He didn't want to return to the cage at anything less than full power, he said, and he was fortunate enough in the financial department that he didn't have to. If his body wasn't up to it, he knew he could retire.

"But I don't want to retire," St-Pierre said. "I love what I do for a living. I'm more motivated now than I have been in a long time. I want to do this for a long time. I want to be the best – the best ever."

St-Pierre has already eclipsed his peers in the earnings category, thanks to a sound business sense and a team of heavy-hitting agents. Now that he's finally healthy enough to return to action, he can set his sights on picking up where he left off in the win column as well.
 
They better not make a GSP v Silva match lol...GSP can't do shit to anybody but control them, that's not gonna work against the worlds best that's heavier than him and actually finishes] fights.​
 
Good amount of articles & discussion at MMAJunkie / MMAFighting / Mixedmartialarts.com (UG - Underground Forum) / Middle Easy, MMAMania, and others for those who wanna get all caught up ... check those sites out ^
 
LennyNero1972 said:
Cotdamn GSP got hammered that's the worst I've ever seen him look after a fight, gotta try and catch this one.:smh:
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Yeah man - easily one of the better fights of the year, and most exciting title defense from GSP since his run from 2008 onward. Watch the momentum change in the 3rd round. Scared the fuck out of us Canadian fans :lol:
 
Lenny - just added some photos. Let us know what you think of the fight when you get a chance to see it, and watch that 3rd round closely. That one's exciting √
 
Ming Fei Hong said:
GSP should not fight Silva at any weight. :smh:
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The UFC brass are pushing for it hard.

Seems like MMA fans would much prefer Silva-Jones instead as Anderson's in his late-30s, and Jon's 25. One's got a few years or less left. The other's got 10 or more years if he stays in it long-term. Gotta match them up soon.

Others are saying hopefully we SOMEHOW get GSP-SILVA in 2013 and SILVA-JONES late-2013, or sometime-2014. Doubt that'll happen though. People have been talking about GSP-SILVA for years already, aside from Georges being out for 1.5 years.
 
GSP has the most to lose. Silva loses to Jones, he's still a legend and fans will say Jones had a size/age advantage. Jones loses to Silva, he's got many years to redeem himself and he'll have lost to the greatest MMA fighter of all times. GSP loses to Silva, he's on the back end of his career with a barely repaired body and series of decision fights. There's not as much bounce-back for him. Condit Elephant Man'd GSP's head in a match GSP "dominated". He needs to stay away from Silva, unless he wants that to be his retirement fight.
 

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