All that was missing for that ninja to crown surf the entire arena.
Yessir
Yeah, that would have been crazy if they started passing his ass around the crowd like a mascot at a college football game
►►► OFFICIAL UFC 142 ----- Aldo / Mendes - Saturday, January 14th - BRAZIL
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Yeah, that would have been crazy if they started passing his ass around the crowd like a mascot at a college football game
Rumble doesn't have any technique other than beast-mode...add that with the fact that he cuts all that fucking weight and you have a gatekeeper type
they need to stop promoting this wrestling base as the most important part of mma. it's all about imposing your will, what ever discipline. joey varner talking about donald cerrone having 8 weapons and diaz having only 2 (standup). we saw how well he was able to use all 8. lol, that fight was the definition of chin-check.
I wouldn't be surprised if they all use PEDs.
They are passionate and train hard as hell, but it just doesn't make sense for one country to produce so many top level mma fighters.
this ufc card was a very good one
muthafukkers got knock the fuck out tonight
That's the thing with sports ... it's always the quieter, more slept on events and match-ups that tend to deliver. Less expectations and people going out there to deliver (MMA and otherwise).
That's what I meant..and it's not over achieving..it's that there was no one around to prove what level of mma they are really on. They are all great wrestlers..til they meet somebody that won't submit to that wrestling game..they are all really good strikers until they meet somebody that strikes for real. I remember they used to talk about Faber's striking in the WEC like he was on the Anderson Silva level.
Aldo should move up and fight Frankie Edgar...
Why? all that would happen is that Edgar moves down to 135 if he lost and they would trade places as division champions.
"I remember they used to talk about Faber's striking in the WEC like he was on the Anderson Silva level" I remember that shit too. Uriah is a good dude though, Mendes also. They are some animals, just had there heads pumped up. They did good hyping mendez, but i was thinking, aldo destroyed, faber, brown, gamburyan (all elite grapplers), so what the hell was mendez supposed to do?
The thing I respect most about Edgar is that he's at his NATURAL weight. He's a cat with a wrestling background who has developed good stand-up and boxing, and is durable as hell as he proved in both fights with BJ Penn, and all 3 with Gray Maynard. Plus ... he walks around at 155 - 162lbs. That's impressive ... so many cats are cutting 20, 30, and more for their respective divisions ... Edgar's defended his strap at his natural class. One of his best fights was years back against TYSON GRIFFIN. Check that one out for those who weren't following the UFC as closely back around 2007/2008 or so.
What's crazy about Palharas is that he has to give access to his leg in order to get that lock. You have to give some specialist a taste of their own medicine to beat them, like when Gonzaga headkicked Crocop..they don't expect it. Someone needs to train on how to rip his fucking foot off as soon as he tries that shit.
not when mma is their second biggest sport.
True ... plus Chad is young in his MMA game. He's a standout HS and collegiate wrestler ... but he's only been at mixed martial arts for a few years. Gotta give him some time to develop his full game, and even then ALDO is on another level from everyone else and is Top 3 / Top 5 P4P in the world still alongside Silva, Jones, GSP, Edgar, and others.
Exactly...that's why he is my dawg, he really is the best 155'r because he actually fights at that weight. Most dudes belt have an asterisk to me since they are coming in with a clear size advantage from cutting.
that's even more crazy.
Soccer is the national pasttime, not MMA.
they got to be using PEDs.
Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) is a full contact combat sport that allows the use of both striking and grappling techniques, both standing and on the ground, including boxing, wrestling, Brazilian jiu-jitsu, muay Thai, kickboxing, taekwondo, karate, judo and other styles.
One of the earliest well documented systems of codified full range unarmed combat was the ancient Olympic combat sport of Pankration. Various mixed style contests also took place throughout Europe, Japan and the Pacific Rim during the early 1900s. The combat sport of Vale Tudo that had developed in Brazil from the 1920s was brought to the United States by the Gracie family in 1993 with the founding of the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC), which is currently the largest MMA promotion company worldwide.[1] Prior to the UFC, professional MMA events had also been held in Japan by Shooto since 1989.
In due course, the more dangerous Vale Tudo style bouts of the early UFCs were made safer with the implementation of additional rules, leading to the popular regulated form of MMA seen today. Originally promoted as a competition with the intention of finding the most effective martial arts for real unarmed combat situations, competitors were pitted against one another with minimal rules.[2] Later, fighters employed multiple martial arts into their style while promoters adopted additional rules aimed at increasing safety for competitors and to promote mainstream acceptance of the sport.[3]
The name mixed martial arts was coined by Rick Blume, president and CEO of Battlecade, in 1995.[4] Following these changes, the sport has seen increased popularity with a pay per view business that rivals boxing and professional wrestling.[5]
One of the earliest well documented systems of codified full range unarmed combat was the ancient Olympic combat sport of Pankration. Various mixed style contests also took place throughout Europe, Japan and the Pacific Rim during the early 1900s. The combat sport of Vale Tudo that had developed in Brazil from the 1920s was brought to the United States by the Gracie family in 1993 with the founding of the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC), which is currently the largest MMA promotion company worldwide.[1] Prior to the UFC, professional MMA events had also been held in Japan by Shooto since 1989.
In due course, the more dangerous Vale Tudo style bouts of the early UFCs were made safer with the implementation of additional rules, leading to the popular regulated form of MMA seen today. Originally promoted as a competition with the intention of finding the most effective martial arts for real unarmed combat situations, competitors were pitted against one another with minimal rules.[2] Later, fighters employed multiple martial arts into their style while promoters adopted additional rules aimed at increasing safety for competitors and to promote mainstream acceptance of the sport.[3]
The name mixed martial arts was coined by Rick Blume, president and CEO of Battlecade, in 1995.[4] Following these changes, the sport has seen increased popularity with a pay per view business that rivals boxing and professional wrestling.[5]
Well we are at a transition in MMA with the influx of true athletes competing in the sport. Cats like Mendes and Faber would have dominated in the Hughes era, the Lidell and Randy Couture era, but in reality all those Legends were over achievers with no real athletic ability. Thats why I called Faber and Mendes etc.. over achieving white boys. Their wrestling actually is top level.. they would be good enough to dominate except they are in the wrong era.
Faber's striking should never be mentioned with AS..
Shiiii that would be a good ass fight thats why, thats all you need. But they should trade places. Frankie is to small for 155.
Yeah, they are good, I would probably hang with them, but never the less...this sport is crazy because it if filled with top contenders and star gatekeepers with great records...but they are not now and will never be elite fighters...and unlike team sports where you have others to cover your weakness and get you into the hall of fame really great fighters expose those with a ceiling.
nah son. brothas in the states would dominate too if we had a large pool of cats who were interested in the sport. They are just brothas who speak Portuguese.
No, he's perfect for the actual 155, it's that the others should man up and go to welter or wherever they belong. And beating B.J. Twice and knocking out Gray proves he's big enough to me. And sometimes if you are smart enough, you can make being the smallest guy an advantage. If you watched the last season of TUF and saw the 135 lb winner you know what I mean.
True ... so cool seeing that. I think that's why Dana White jumped aboard the bandwagon hard back in October or so in Edgar-Maynard III when Edgar came back again (like in Edgar-Maynard II from January 1st, 2011) and took Maynard out in the 4th round or so. Dana and 'em respecting the fact that he's a proven champ ... has defended the belt a few times and is naturally THAT SIZE. Ain't no 180 + lb cat hustling down to 155 and then ballooning back up. Wassup Anthony Johnson. Had to say it.
How is Frankie too small for 155 when that's his natural weight?
Is he supposed to cut 10lbs or just over and try and match up with Aldo? He is good. He isn't crazy.
Is he supposed to cut 10lbs or just over and try and match up with Aldo? He is good. He isn't crazy.
Well we are at a transition in MMA with the influx of true athletes competing in the sport. Cats like Mendes and Faber would have dominated in the Hughes era, the Lidell and Randy Couture era, but in reality all those Legends were over achievers with no real athletic ability. Thats why I called Faber and Mendes etc.. over achieving white boys. Their wrestling actually is top level.. they would be good enough to dominate except they are in the wrong era.
Faber's striking should never be mentioned with AS..
Mendez, and Faber are the couture/Hughes types they are just the younger version of them. Top of the food chain wrestlers.
Couture is a olympic alternate if that aint a athlete I don't know what is.
Hughes wrestled Div 1, but I don't think he won anything.
It all comes down to how well you work on the skills you have. Mendez only had wrestling to go on, and after the 1st 2 shots I knew it was just a matter or time. When your primary skill doesn't' work you gotta have backups. The other 2 were standing and banging with him which would have let to his eventual KO, or pulling guard. With 11 fights I doubt his guard was developed. You always need that backup skill to fall back on and I see to many cats not having guards where they can pull something off, it don't even have to be a submission it can just be a sweep to get you to that top position.
Well thats the thing. Just like you said He may be perfect for 155..but everyone else in his division isnt. So in reality he isnt perfect for his division. I think even Aldo is naturally bigger than him.
Well we are at a transition in MMA with the influx of true athletes competing in the sport. Cats like Mendes and Faber would have dominated in the Hughes era, the Lidell and Randy Couture era, but in reality all those Legends were over achievers with no real athletic ability. Thats why I called Faber and Mendes etc.. over achieving white boys. Their wrestling actually is top level.. they would be good enough to dominate except they are in the wrong era.
Faber's striking should never be mentioned with AS..
Yeah. We are saying the same thing. I was just saying that since the Aldo's and GSP's of the world were not really around yet on this level that the Chuck's and Randy's were the best...now if somebody like that gets a belt these days and pulls a Rocky type win with limited ability that would be a true over achiever.
How is Frankie too small for 155 when that's his natural weight?
Is he supposed to cut 10lbs or just over and try and match up with Aldo? He is good. He isn't crazy.
Because half the cats in 155 are really welter weights.
Aldo should move up and fight him.
Frankie fights Ben Henderson next...perfect example.
yeah...one of his legs is bigger than both of Frankie's. But who knows, he came up with the strategy to beat B.J. Maybe his team can do something with Bendo.
Aldo is staying at 145 for as long as possible unless it hurts his health to stay at that weight. That cat is owning people ... even with the long bouts against Faber, Hominick, and Florian. The WEC guys can attest to that when he was running game on them
I definitely think Frankie is capable of winning. I just think fighting a string of naturally bigger guys is gonna wear on you.
Especially since Frankie is a wrestler. At least Aldo can win by picking you apart, and has one hitter quitters. Frankie can box it out with those guys, but his base is still wrestling and he doesn't put cats away quick. A career full of 5 round fights with bigger dudes..
Aldo ... where does he rank P4P now?
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