Why Denzel Washington will NEVER be in a Tyler Perry Movie

[P03t]

And while we're at it, I haven't seen it yet, but give props to TI for doing Takers.

At least it was something different.

But people didn't really support it in the theaters.

And that's a problem too. People who will go out for a TP movie won't go for a Spike Lee movie, and those who won't go for a TP movie will download the Spike movie.

when Takers dropped....The Town also dropped right after....

and they were pretty much the same plot and alot of cats started to compare both films....THE TOWN IMO was a better movie...and not because it had Affleck or whites....it had BETTER WRITING....

something I want to see more in TP films.....

 

[geechiedan]

Not a different movie in general, but in comparison to the tyler perry collection.

It's one of those options I mentioned earlier.

If there were more films with black leads, or more mixed supporting casts people won't be bothered with the TP stuff.

They see how difficult it is in hollywood for black talent - and they see TP running shit and they can't reconcile the two.

in the last two weeks I saw Limitless and Source Code and all the while I'm thinking why can't WE BLACK PEOPLE produce these kinds of movies??

Why can't an Anthony Mackie (because he's hot right now) or another young black man star in these kinds of films...why can't they be majority black cast??

You know why...because the rule of thumb in hollywood is that those kinds of movies DON'T SELL well here or overseas..and who's making up that rule??

Will Smith can be a big star as long as he's in a majority white cast film..

Take for instance his film Enemy of The State. It starred Will Smith, Gene Hackman, Jon Voight, Lisa Bonet, Regina King

Now don't change a thing in that except two actors..instead of Gene Hackman and Jon Voight lets put in Danny Glover and Sam Jackson..

does that movie get greenlit??

 

[Nobody]

when Takers dropped....The Town also dropped right after....

and they were pretty much the same plot and alot of cats started to compare both films....THE TOWN IMO was a better movie...and not because it had Affleck or whites....it had BETTER WRITING....

something I want to see more in TP films.....

Yeah, but the people who go to see TP won't go see a movie like Takers. Hell they probably won't even go see a movie like The Town either.

 

[BrownTurd]

brotha stop with all this white man insecure of our image stuff...I don't give a shit what another man thinks....

I WANT GOOD BLACK FILMS....IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR?

I don't care what whites think....I want good movie w/o the buffoonery...thats all...and its not just TP....

There are plenty of good black films. Do you think you live on this earth alone? Just because you don't like a movie does not mean it was not good to others. Simply follow a director that you like

 

[P03t]

Let's assume for 2 seconds you're actually serious here. That you really made a parallel between The Wire and Tyler Perry's tragic attempts at cinema.

Each season of The Wire showed different decaying segments of a city. If you've ever watched The Wire, you'd know it's not about drug dealing, it's about the death of Baltimore and how drugs, the police, politicians and other have played a hand in it. Season 1 actually put a face on drug dealers. Proved that no matter how much America wants to paint drug dealers as monsters, circumstances lead young people to the corner. Season 2 showed how the drugs got into the country, and to the streets. Painted a much broader view of drugs as not just a blacks on a corner issue. Season 4 was almost entirely dedicated to the shitty public school education system and how it leads to apathy and hopelessness. Season 5 showed the decaying of the inner city newspaper system among other things. As one writer put it:



No one will ever compare Tyler Perry to anything great artistically.

Tyler Perry is a great business man, but a HORRENDOUS writer and an average director at best. He employs black actors yes, but that's where it stops. The actors he employs do not get other opportunities in movies because his writing is so poor. Furthermore, name me ONE black actor Tyler Perry has introduced to the world. Name ONE. I can name quite a few great actors who got their starts in Spike Lee movies. Just name me ONE. I'll wait.

 

[geechiedan]

playing a role....

and what the fuck do you think people are doing in a TP movie??

 

[JofromthaNO]

Why are people assuming that Denzel is "washed up" in this thread, and/or would WANT to do a Tyler Perry film?!?

Denzel has done television, broadway AND movies...to be honest, his most logical next step (if he hasn't already done this) would be producing and/or directing projects he was interested in...

The BIG assumption that everyone HAS to work with Tyler Perry OR Spike Lee is redic. Black cinema doesn't have to be so dichotomous, and neither do its black actors...

 

[P03t]

There are plenty of good black films. Do you think you live on this earth alone? Just because you don't like a movie does not mean it was not good to others. Simply follow a director that you like

 

[P03t]

and what the fuck do you think people are doing in a TP movie??

playing a role...bruh I never said I had issues with the actors they are getting a check they wouldn't see if TP wasn't here...I have a problem with the plot...the buffoonery and the overall writing of TP movies.....

 

[TheFuser]

For reference...

School Daze:
Laurence Fishburne
Giancarlo Esposito

Do The Right Thing:
Giancarlo Esposito
Rosie Perez
John Turturo
Bill Nunn (Radio Raheem has been in quite a few movies)
Martin Lawrence
Samuel L. Jackson

Mo' Better Blues:
Denzel Washington (filmed directly after Glory so he was still new in the game)
Samuel L. Jackson
Wesley Snipes (still relatively new in the game. Only been acting for 4 years)

Jungle Fever:
Samuel L. Jackson
HALLE BERRY
Annabella Sciorra
Tim Robbins

Malcolm X (do I really need to run this movie?):
Denzel
Angela Basset
Delroy Lindo... the list goes on

Crooklyn:
Delroy Lindo
Isaiah Washington
Alfre Woodard

Clockers:
Introduced Mekhi Pfifer


And these are just movies HE WROTE during a 7 year stretch. There's a difference

 

[geechiedan]

playing a role...bruh I never said I had issues with the actors they are getting a check they wouldn't see if TP wasn't here...I have a problem with the plot...the buffoonery and the overall writing of TP movies.....

I have to agree with Perry on this one. Spike has always been outspoken and keeps setting himself up as some kind of authority on blackness and its more than a bit annoying. His constantly harping about whats cooning and what setting black cinema and people back is especially ironic considering that his break through film featured a character that was steeped in the black male stereotype. Mars Blackmon (black man?) was a slang talking, unemployed, loudmouth who was clearly designed to represent a type. The same character Spike didn't mind appropriating for Nike so that they could sell grossly over priced sneakers to poor black kids (why do I get the feeling that if anyone else had done that Spike would be livid). In the film "She's Gotta Have It" the protagonist Nola Darling is dating three men simultaneously. Jamie Overstreet, an every man, Greer Childs, an arrogant preppy and Mars, best described as "street". All the characters were very broadly drawn to make a point. And that's what Spike is overlooking in his criticism of Perry's productions. Tyler Perry tells stories with exaggerated characters to make a point.

What I mean is Tyler Perry's films, plays and TV shows are in part his ministry. Perry's plays are essentially gospel plays that stress baptist christian values and morals. Remember this is a guy who at one point was homeless and relied mainly on his faith and tenacity as a play-write to survive. Perry's style of storytelling relies on broadly drawn easily decipherable characters and plots. Its clearly a formula that works because Perry has gone from living in his car to having a production studio, mansions and a Lear jet. So its not likely that he will change his style any time soon to suit Spike Lee's taste.

http://mczfilmtvreviews.blogspot.com/2011/04/spike-lee-tyler-perry-beef-needs-to-end.html

 

[BrownTurd]

Seems like a really good movie. But the movie you showed is not in TP's lane. TP is a play writer who primarily makes comedies. Even if I did not like the movie you just showed I will support the brotha because we only have a play writer who mainly produces comedies so it would be nice to have another brotha who could occupy the Drama genre

 

[AgentCreed]

tyler makes and supports films that project black tragedy....in every movie except the family that preys, which ironically was his least successful film and his fans disliked it the most.

Every female character is either a victim of rape, incest or abuse... they have mental issues and a majority have rage issues and none of them accept responsibility in their own fucked up lives.

the male characters are all either ex-cons or scumbags or faggots living undercover lives...again except for the family that preys, that dude was just a fool who didn't realize his wife was a piece of shit...

tyler will promote movies like precious where black men are child rapists and the mothers are pieces of shit and the children are perpetual victims....they either die or get a life ending disease with no hope for a future...

then u add his cross dressing self as madea, no manners rude "woman" who by her own admission was a "ho" and isn't ashamed of not knowing who her child's father is so she'll tell someone else it's his kid, again no personal responsibility. madea goes around smacking people, destroying property and other shit and gets off with a slap on the wrist...i mean she drive thru a take out spot in a movie and nothing happen!... she assaults ppl and nothing happens...

then u have the side character, mr. brown an ignorant coon who's loud for no reason and refuses to live better, then her daughter who's a fat cow who won't take responsibility for her actions...

i mean damn in tyler's universe everyone is all kinds of fucked up...but thanks to madea's ass kickings and jesus they all get a happy ending...its simply not realistic and outside of the violence its not funny... his movies r disjointed and poorly written and the camera work is just horrid the rough cuts on scene after scene is not even bad in college art class films....

but he makes movies so bitter black women and jesus freaks can relate too i mean gw bush got elected thanks to the jesus freaks, the tea party is in some power b/c of their fervent beliefs and bitter black women are buying up books by steve harvey and seeing films by tyler perry to support feeling bad and embracing being bitter...not even lifetime movies r this bad....

u got a movie like jumping the broom coming out, it won't do 1 percent of perry numbers b/c not one character is acting like a coon, aint no shuckin or jivin and no one is a rape or incest victim...

black folks r so conditioned now to embrace black tragedy as a medium of entertainment they reject other genre's...thats y spike gets no love even tho he's a ground breaking creator...in a tyler perry movie u sit and laugh at coon shit like a mindless zombie while his coon shit infects your mind and makes u see things his way...spike makes a movie that makes u question and demand more but most blacks wanna sit and be mindless zombies, i mean wasn't there a report that we as a race watch more tv than anyone else?

tyler perry is a hack and a con man and his supporters and fans are brainwashed...

cooning to success is not success its doing exactly what the oppressors want so we stay docile and stupid like tyler's "works of art"

and b4 someone brings up chris rock and ice cube, they make things outside of comedy and their comedies rn't coonish. they appeal to everyone. their dramas aren't depressing either and they don't show black folks are tragic cartoon dressed up as humans... and they are social....tyler is down with oprah she who supports an all girls school teaching feminism and morehouse which support undercover black male faggots for the most part while both look down on the working black man....

tyler is a coon and everything on the boondocks about him was right....sadly black ppl support his trash so rarely does anything of substance or positive light gets greenlit unless it has elements of his trash in it...

 

[TheFuser]

I have to agree with Perry on this one. Spike has always been outspoken and keeps setting himself up as some kind of authority on blackness and its more than a bit annoying. His constantly harping about whats cooning and what setting black cinema and people back is especially ironic considering that his break through film featured a character that was steeped in the black male stereotype. Mars Blackmon (black man?) was a slang talking, unemployed, loudmouth who was clearly designed to represent a type. The same character Spike didn't mind appropriating for Nike so that they could sell grossly over priced sneakers to poor black kids (why do I get the feeling that if anyone else had done that Spike would be livid). In the film "She's Gotta Have It" the protagonist Nola Darling is dating three men simultaneously. Jamie Overstreet, an every man, Greer Childs, an arrogant preppy and Mars, best described as "street". All the characters were very broadly drawn to make a point. And that's what Spike is overlooking in his criticism of Perry's productions. Tyler Perry tells stories with exaggerated characters to make a point.

What I mean is Tyler Perry's films, plays and TV shows are in part his ministry. Perry's plays are essentially gospel plays that stress baptist christian values and morals. Remember this is a guy who at one point was homeless and relied mainly on his faith and tenacity as a play-write to survive. Perry's style of storytelling relies on broadly drawn easily decipherable characters and plots. Its clearly a formula that works because Perry has gone from living in his car to having a production studio, mansions and a Lear jet. So its not likely that he will change his style any time soon to suit Spike Lee's taste.

http://mczfilmtvreviews.blogspot.com/2011/04/spike-lee-tyler-perry-beef-needs-to-end.html

I actually have ZERO problem with this. If he wants to make simple shit and cake, go for it. But don't get mad when someone calls it shitty art. The problem is, he wants to make bullshit and have people call it a masterpiece. It's simple 3rd grade writing with atypical black jokes. Add a few Color Purple jokes and some religious undertones. That's all fine that's he's found a formula that worked. Seems black female Xtians treat his movies like paying tithes. I have no problem with that. And neither should he. But don't get all Carl Thomas EMO on us when someone calls you on this shit sandwich you want us to consider filet mignon. FOH.

With all that said, there's a reason Tyler's been provided access while other black directors haven't. Folks should really think on that and ask why?

 

[Rawness]

Seems like a really good movie. But the movie you showed is not in TP's lane. TP is a play writer who primarily makes comedies. Even if I did not like the movie you just showed I will support the brotha because we only have a play writer who mainly produces comedies so it would be nice to have another brotha who could occupy the Drama genre

Nah, he makes PLENTY of dramas as well. One of the good things about Perry is that he makes an effort to attack issues that affect us that aren't really adressed anywhere else.

He just sucks at film making. He needs to back young talented filmmakers more often. Get more into a "greenlight" role and leave the creative shit to those with talent.

 

[geechiedan]

For reference...

School Daze:
Laurence Fishburne - LF was already an established actor he did a little called Apocalypse Now..maybe you heard of it?
Giancarlo Esposito - whats he done since?

Do The Right Thing:
Giancarlo Esposito - hmm a spike alum
Rosie Perez
John Turturo - Already established
Bill Nunn (Radio Raheem has been in quite a few movies)
Martin Lawrence
Samuel L. Jackson

Mo' Better Blues:
Denzel Washington (filmed directly after Glory so he was still new in the game) WTF??? check out his filmography
Samuel L. Jackson
Wesley Snipes (still relatively new in the game. Only been acting for 4 years) - you could say Scorsese introduced him in the MJ video Bad..

Jungle Fever:
Samuel L. Jackson
HALLE BERRY
Annabella Sciorra
Tim Robbins - established

Malcolm X (do I really need to run this movie?):
Denzel
Angela Basset - Boyz in the Hood John Singleton broke her..dude
Delroy Lindo... the list goes on

Crooklyn:
Delroy Lindo
Isaiah Washington
Alfre Woodard - already established

Clockers:
Introduced Mekhi Pfifer


And these are just movies HE WROTE during a 7 year stretch. There's a difference

spike has done some good things but not everyone one that list is indebted to his casting..spike was LUCKY to get quite a few of those people you listed..

 

[P03t]

I have to agree with Perry on this one. Spike has always been outspoken and keeps setting himself up as some kind of authority on blackness and its more than a bit annoying. His constantly harping about whats cooning and what setting black cinema and people back is especially ironic considering that his break through film featured a character that was steeped in the black male stereotype. Mars Blackmon (black man?) was a slang talking, unemployed, loudmouth who was clearly designed to represent a type. The same character Spike didn't mind appropriating for Nike so that they could sell grossly over priced sneakers to poor black kids (why do I get the feeling that if anyone else had done that Spike would be livid). In the film "She's Gotta Have It" the protagonist Nola Darling is dating three men simultaneously. Jamie Overstreet, an every man, Greer Childs, an arrogant preppy and Mars, best described as "street". All the characters were very broadly drawn to make a point. And that's what Spike is overlooking in his criticism of Perry's productions. Tyler Perry tells stories with exaggerated characters to make a point.

What I mean is Tyler Perry's films, plays and TV shows are in part his ministry. Perry's plays are essentially gospel plays that stress baptist christian values and morals. Remember this is a guy who at one point was homeless and relied mainly on his faith and tenacity as a play-write to survive. Perry's style of storytelling relies on broadly drawn easily decipherable characters and plots. Its clearly a formula that works because Perry has gone from living in his car to having a production studio, mansions and a Lear jet. So its not likely that he will change his style any time soon to suit Spike Lee's taste.

http://mczfilmtvreviews.blogspot.com/2011/04/spike-lee-tyler-perry-beef-needs-to-end.html

what point famo....TP uses the religion and black women insecurities to make his money....

 

[TheFuser]

spike has done some good things but not everyone one that list is indebted to his casting..spike was LUCKY to get quite a few of those people you listed..

Lucky? Please explain.

 

[AgentCreed]

spike has done some good things but not everyone one that list is indebted to his casting..spike was LUCKY to get quite a few of those people you listed..

Ask any actor black or otherwise if they'd do a spike film & the answer will b yes instantly... ask those will they do a tyler movie & the majority will say fuck no

 

[vader]

Yet somehow Spike convinces Denzel to work with him.

If TP took time to write better shit, maybe Denzel would volunteer him services.

But why fuck with the built in gravy train?

You get Denzel Washington to play in a Tyler Perry movie, and the women would storm the theaters....

 

[geechiedan]

Lucky? Please explain.

you DO realize that a good number of those people were already established actors include denzel..

You surmise Spike's movie Mo Better Blues had a major impact in denzels career since "(filmed directly after Glory so he was still new in the game)"

When in fact Denzel Washington had already done:

A Soldier's Story

PowerNAACP Image Award for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Motion Picture

Cry Freedom Nominated—Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor
Nominated—Golden Globe Award for Best Actor – Motion Picture Drama
The Mighty Quinn
For Queen and Country Festival du Film Policier de Cognac Award for Best Actor

Glory Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor
Golden Globe Award for Best Supporting Actor – Motion Picture
NAACP Image Award for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Motion Picture
Kansas City Film Critics Circle Award for Best Supporting Actor

THEN he did a movie by an up and coming director called Mo Better Blues..spikes 3rd major feature film by the way..

 

[geechiedan]

I actually have ZERO problem with this. If he wants to make simple shit and cake, go for it. But don't get mad when someone calls it shitty art. The problem is, he wants to make bullshit and have people call it a masterpiece. It's simple 3rd grade writing with atypical black jokes. Add a few Color Purple jokes and some religious undertones. That's all fine that's he's found a formula that worked. Seems black female Xtians treat his movies like paying tithes. I have no problem with that. And neither should he. But don't get all Carl Thomas EMO on us when someone calls you on this shit sandwich you want us to consider filet mignon. FOH.

when has TP ever acted like his movies were the end all and be all?? The people vote with their wallets don't hate the player hate the game..

With all that said, there's a reason Tyler's been provided access while other black directors haven't. Folks should really think on that and ask why?

because it sells...thats all anyone cares about..don't over think it..

when spike was selling like that early on people called him the black woody allen..

 

[geechiedan]

what point famo....TP uses the religion and black women insecurities to make his money....

works like a motherfucker don't it

 

[TheFuser]

you DO realize that a good number of those people were already established actors include denzel..

You surmise Spike's movie Mo Better Blues had a major impact in denzels career since "(filmed directly after Glory so he was still new in the game)"

When in fact Denzel Washington had already done:

A Soldier's Story

PowerNAACP Image Award for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Motion Picture

Cry Freedom Nominated—Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor
Nominated—Golden Globe Award for Best Actor – Motion Picture Drama
The Mighty Quinn
For Queen and Country Festival du Film Policier de Cognac Award for Best Actor

Glory Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor
Golden Globe Award for Best Supporting Actor – Motion Picture
NAACP Image Award for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Motion Picture
Kansas City Film Critics Circle Award for Best Supporting Actor

THEN he did a movie by an up and coming director called Mo Better Blues..spikes 3rd major feature film by the way..

Again, relatively NEW in the game. You named Denzel. Your post said he was lucky to get quite a few. Keep going.

 

[TheFuser]

and while you're at it, please complete the first assignment and name an actor Tyler Perry discovered and introduced to the world. Even if it was "lucky."

 

[geechiedan]

Again, relatively NEW in the game. You named Denzel. Your post said he was lucky to get quite a few. Keep going.

what relatively..dude had been making movies and tv shows for a while..remember he started out on St. Elsewhere...But I'll continue..the bold means critically acclaimed project.

John Turturro BEFORE DO THE RIGHT THING


1988 The Fortunate Pilgrim (TV mini-series)
Larry

1987 The Sicilian
Pisciotta

1987 Five Corners
Heinz

1986 The Color of Money
Julian

1986 Off Beat
Neil Pepper

1986 Gung Ho
Willie

1986 Hannah and Her Sisters
Writer

1985 To Live and Die in L.A.
Carl Cody

1985 Desperately Seeking Susan
Ray

1985 Miami Vice (TV series)
David Traynor

already established..

Wesley Snipes "(still relatively new in the game. Only been acting for 4 years)"..really??

King of New York
Thomas Flanigan

1990 H.E.L.P. (TV series)
Off. Lou Barton
– Undue Force (1990) … Off. Lou Barton
– To Everything, There Is a Season (1990) … Off. Lou Barton
– Steam Heat (1990) … Off. Lou Barton
– The Children's Hour (1990) … Off. Lou Barton
– Are You There, Alpha Centauri? (1990) … Off. Lou Barton
See all 6 episodes »

1989 The Days and Nights of Molly Dodd (TV series)
Hood
– Here's Why You Should Always Make Your Bed in the Morning (1989) … Hood

1989 Major League
Willie Mays Hayes

1989 A Man Called Hawk (TV series)
Nicholas Murdock
– Choice of Chance (1989) … Nicholas Murdock
– A Time and a Place (1989) … Nicholas Murdock

1988 Vietnam War Story II (video)

1987 Bad (video short)
Mini Max

1987 Critical Condition
Ambulance Driver

1987 Vietnam War Story (TV series)
– An Old Ghost Walks the Earth (1987)

1986 Miami Vice (TV series)
Silk
– Streetwise (1986) … Silk

1986 Streets of Gold
Roland Jenkins

1986 Wildcats
Trumaine

Tim Robbins - BEFORE JUNGLE FEVER

Jacob's Ladder
Jacob Singer

1990 Cadillac Man
Larry

1989 Erik the Viking
Erik

1989 Miss Firecracker
Delmount Williams

1989 Twister
Jeff

1988 Bull Durham THE MOVIE THAT REALLY STARTED THE BUZZ ON HIM..
Ebby Calvin 'Nuke' LaLoosh

1988 Tapeheads
Josh Tager

1987 Five Corners
Harry

1986 Howard the Duck
Phil Blumburtt

1986 Top Gun
Merlin

Alfre Woodard - BEFORE CROOKLYN

Race to Freedom: The Underground Railroad (TV movie)
Harriet Tubman

1994 Blue Chips
Lavada McRae

1994 Aliens for Breakfast (TV movie)

1993 Bopha!
Rosie Mangena

1993 Heart and Souls
Penny Washington

1992 Rich in Love
Rhody Poole

1992 Passion Fish
Chantelle

1992 The Gun in Betty Lou's Handbag
Attorney Ann Orkin

1991 Grand Canyon
Jane

1991 Pretty Hattie's Baby

1990 Blue Bayou (TV movie)
Jessica Filley

1989 A Mother's Courage: The Mary Thomas Story (TV movie)
Mary Thomas

1989 Miss Firecracker
Popeye Jackson

1988 Scrooged
Grace Cooley

1985-1988 St. Elsewhere (TV series) THE SAME SHOW THAT PRODUCED DENZEL..
Dr. Roxanne Turner
– The Abby Singer Show (1988) … Dr. Roxanne Turner
– Not My Type (1986) … Dr. Roxanne Turner
– You Beta Your Life (1986) … Dr. Roxanne Turner
– The Equalizer (1986) … Dr. Roxanne Turner
– Black's Magic (1986) … Dr. Roxanne Turner
See all 13 episodes »

1988 The Child Saver (TV movie)
Andrea Crawford

1987 Mandela (TV movie)

 

[TheFuser]

what relatively..dude had been making movies and tv shows for a while..remember he started out on St. Elsewhere...But I'll continue..the bold means critically acclaimed project.

John Turturro BEFORE DO THE RIGHT THING

So you're saying those roles were equal to his role on DTRT? For real? You're naming his credits. Plenty of actors have credits from bit parts in movies. The Bull Durham movie did give him a buzz though, I'll give you that. Forgot about his role in that. But it wasn't close to his part in DTRT. Or his roles in SIX (Mo Betta Blues, Jungle Fever, Girl 6, He Got Game, Clockers, Summer of Same) other Spike Lee movies which eventually led to his most famous roles in The Big Lebowski, and Oh Brother Where Art Thou. Show me the equivalent actor for Tyler Perry.

And stop ignoring the other question. Name an actor Tyler Perry has given any shine to that wasn't already an established actor in the black community or one who wasn't already in his plays. Where's his Giancarlo Esposito? Where's the actor he discovered who made waves in other movies.

 

[geechiedan]

So you're saying those roles were equal to his role on DTRT? For real? You're naming his credits. Plenty of actors have credits from bit parts in movies. The Bull Durham movie did give him a buzz though, I'll give you that. Forgot about his role in that. But it wasn't close to his part in DTRT.

And stop ignoring the other question. Name an actor Tyler Perry has given any shine to that wasn't already. Where's his Giancarlo Esposito?

now your just picking and choosing what you'll accept..if thats the case then no actor did anything until spike lee came on the scene..

and for TP it could be Isiah Mustafa after this weeks debut of the new madea flick...

 

[TheFuser]

now your just picking and choosing what you'll accept..if thats the case then no actor did anything until spike lee came on the scene..

and for TP it could be Isiah Mustafa after this weeks debut of the new madea flick...

picking and choosing? There's CLEARLY a difference between being credited for playing "man at the arcade" than having an actual role in a movie.

Tyler Perry's made how many movies and we're talking about a possible right now? Shit, Denzel came out the gate directing Antwone Fisher and broke Derek Luke.

 

[Give Me 3ft.]

they will:

 

[geechiedan]

picking and choosing? There's CLEARLY a difference between being credited for playing "man at the arcade" than having an actual role in a movie.

and none of those actors I highlighted were playing "man at the arcade" roles by the time they worked with spike.

Tyler Perry's made how many movies and we're talking about a possible right now? Shit, Denzel came out the gate directing Antwone Fisher and broke Derek Luke.

okay now

 

[Hellfish]

Seems like a really good movie. But the movie you showed is not in TP's lane. TP is a play writer who primarily makes comedies. Even if I did not like the movie you just showed I will support the brotha because we only have a play writer who mainly produces comedies so it would be nice to have another brotha who could occupy the Drama genre

In what way do you mean "supporting the brother?" is it in being happy for his success or financially supporting his products?

 

[Shurnuff]

@ 7:10 CLASSIC!

 

[followup]

More appropriate title: 'Why Denzel has never and will never own a film studio'

Tyler Perry doesn't have to beg ANYBODY to be in his films. He is doing an amazing job

Haters gonna hate

 

[K Luv]

Of course you wont see Denzel in a Tyler Perry movie, but then again you wont see De Niro in a Adam Sasdler movie, so it might be that they are low brow comedies and not necessarily evil to the black community