Straight Outta Compton is the greatest Hip Hop album of All Time.

It takes a nation, PE still the best to date imo

and the DOC album was far better than straight outta compton, even though it was an anthem when it came out
 
:lol: when i seen this.
it's dope.
but
i hope that you don't
really mean this.:D

the chronic is the
dopest shit
from the left coast.IMO
 
nigga are you realizing what you are typing?


Dre Produced NWA....Snoop was influenced by NWA and so was everyone else in the dogpound


no Straight outta Compton...no chronic...no doggystlye

fuck is wrong with niggas..your analogy does not go with this at all just for the individuals involved alone



Point Blank after Run DMC...NWA was the most influential rap group of all time


there is no argument to that fact

niggas just HATE giving the west just due

My analogy makes perfect sense. What the fuck is wrong with you. You keep yelling influence...Im talking about BETTER MUSICAL product. Did the Model T not set the influence for automobiles? Did NWA not set the influence for West Coast Music?

Or since you wanna use direct lineage...is the Model T better than the 2011 Ford Mustang? Because without the Model T there would be no Fords? Come on man, stop trying to sound smart. How the fuck do I HATE the West when I'm giving Doggystyle and the Chronic props? Especially since Doggystyle is my 2nd Favorite CD ever? Make sense...
 
THE GREATEST HIP HOP ALBUM OF ALL TIME?????? THREAD STARTER NEED THE PISS SLAPPED OUT OF HIS MOUTH. LET ME TELL YOU, STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON IS WHAT DESTROYED THE LAST BLACK REVOLUTION IN AMERICA. BLACK YOUTH HAD STARTED TO PICK UP THEIR CULTURE AGAIN DURING THE LATE 80S, AND NWA USHURED IN GANGSTA RAP AND DRUG DEALING, AND THAT WAS A WRAP FOR BLACK CULTURE. THATS THE CLAIM OF FAME FOR THAT ALBUM. NOW, THE GREATEST HIP HOP ALBUM OF OF TIME, AND IN MY OPINION, ONE OF THE GREATEST ALBUMS OF ALL TIME, IS THIS BELOW:


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My analogy makes perfect sense. What the fuck is wrong with you. You keep yelling influence...Im talking about BETTER MUSICAL product. Did the Model T not set the influence for automobiles? Did NWA not set the influence for West Coast Music?

Or since you wanna use direct lineage...is the Model T better than the 2011 Ford Mustang? Because without the Model T there would be no Fords? Come on man, stop trying to sound smart. How the fuck do I HATE the West when I'm giving Doggystyle and the Chronic props? Especially since Doggystyle is my 2nd Favorite CD ever? Make sense...

When I say greatest, I don't mean just musically. Of course there are albums way better then SOC sonically. I'm talking overall impact, influence, and sonically. I don't think an album did all 3 as big as SOC.

And for the record, that album still knocks to this day to whomever made the comment that the tracks don't stand up.
 
THE GREATEST HIP HOP ALBUM OF ALL TIME?????? THREAD STARTER NEED THE PISS SLAPPED OUT OF HIS MOUTH. LET ME TELL YOU, STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON IS WHAT DESTROYED THE LAST BLACK REVOLUTION IN AMERICA. BLACK YOUTH HAD STARTED TO PICK UP THEIR CULTURE AGAIN DURING THE LATE 80S, AND NWA USHURED IN GANGSTA RAP AND DRUG DEALING, AND THAT WAS A WRAP FOR BLACK CULTURE. THATS THE CLAIM OF FAME FOR THAT ALBUM. NOW, THE GREATEST HIP HOP ALBUM OF OF TIME, AND IN MY OPINION, ONE OF THE GREATEST ALBUMS OF ALL TIME, IS THIS BELOW:


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Everything you typed is the reason that album is a very close second on my list. As powerful as It takes a nation... was, SOC had the greatest influence on the culture. We're not discussing morals and values here. Just hip hop music. And I like to rid my body of urine the traditional way. Slapping it out of my mouth :eek: isn't necessary.
 
My personal favorite is Illmatic, but when you consider the music that came before it, and the influence that the album had on every hip hop song/album after it, regardless of region, how can it not be? It blew open what was acceptable as far as language/content in hip hop music, and the production on the album was light years ahead of anything made in hip hop up until that point. If you don't agree, go back and listen to every hip hop album made prior to and during 1988.

It influenced the style of every single hip hop artist that came after it's release, from Snoop to Nas to Biggie to Scarface (Geto Boys) to Outkast and Wu-Tang. I strongly believe that the only reason that it isn't widely held at that lofty position is because most critics are East Coast biased (and I'm from the East Coast) and most publications can't bring themselves to give the highest honor to a group not from NY. When taken into it's proper context, I don't feel that there is a hip hop album that comes close. :cool:

Strong argument. I came in to argue for "It Takes a Nation..." but you had stronger arguments. I still prefer "It Takes..." and a couple others, such as "Speakerbox/The Love Below", but you made hard to dispute points.
 
Cant agree with that. One of the criteria for greatness is timelessness. Yeah it might have laid the groundwork but come on man. In no way is Straight Outta Compton a better album than Doggystyle. Shit you could argue that a good 5-7 tracks off Doggystyle would be nice RIGHT now.. you cant argue that for S.O.C.

This album is superb only in singlehandedly offering the worst influential style for DECADES TO FOLLOW :eek:

Except for some underground artists, they, along with that Jewish guy that marketed them, showed tha world that they hit best selling records without the usual push from radio. Before this album, greats like LL, Cool G, Rakim, PE, and Big Daddy Kane barely threw in two curses an entire album!!!

That album led the way to the artist not running with their original style and gave in to whatever they thought their fans wanted. :smh: Scary enough, Kanye and skinny jeans hip hop is what finally breaking down all that ganster rubbish beforehand.
 
Without Straight Outta Compton, none of those albums would exist. :cool: I'm not just talking musically. When discussing the greats, there are a lot of other elements that must be taken into consideration.

If that's your criteria, then Ice T's "Rhyme Pays" and Schooly D's albums are the greatest, since those 2 paved the way. It's hard to say which album is "the greatest". Cased could be made for "Fear of a Black Planet", "3 Feet High...", "The Chronic", etc.
 
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This is the greatest hip hop album. Not the most influencial to anyone hip to hip hop before 1991. It's not the most influencial but it's the product of every influencial record. His rapping is evolutionary from Paid in Full, he has the rebellious nature of It takes a Million, snippets of drug and hard knock culture and swearing reborn from Straight Outta Compton, the introspection of a Large Professor and Guru melded with top choice producers competing with each other to solidify the album. Even a clip from the Wild Style era!!

No one ever with a such a "tone deaf flow" before Nas. Say what you want but dude was chasing the beat on too many songs. Allow Kool Moe Dee to tell it:

Kool Moe Dee notes that Nas has an "off-beat conversational flow" in his book There's a God on the Mic - he says: "before Nas, every MC focused on rhyming with a cadence that ultimately put the words that rhymed on beat with the snare drum. Nas created a style of rapping that was more conversational than ever before".[75]
 
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No one ever with a such a "tone deaf flow" before Nas. Say what you want but dude was chasing the beat on too many songs. Allow Kool Moe Dee to tell it:

Kool Moe Dee notes that Nas has an "off-beat conversational flow" in his book There's a God on the Mic - he says: "before Nas, every MC focused on rhyming with a cadence that ultimately put the words that rhymed on beat with the snare drum. Nas created a style of rapping that was more conversational than ever before".[75]

I guess Moe Dee hadn't heard of Kool Keith.
 
If that's your criteria, then Ice T's "Rhyme Pays" and Schooly D's albums are the greatest, since those 2 paved the way. It's hard to say which album is "the greatest". Cased could be made for "Fear of a Black Planet", "3 Feet High...", "The Chronic", etc.

De la Soul is responsible for adding plenty of skits in hip hop. Also, no one added so many damn songs without double pressing a double album before De la. I'd insist that De la was a precursor to Devin tha Dude and Digital Underground and the fucking alt rap scene.
 
I guess Moe Dee hadn't heard of Kool Keith.

Nah...Kool Keith was Doctor Who with his shit. Conversational? or Theatrical? Kool Keith had a solid cadence. When I thought heard Illmatic, I thought Nas couldn't ride the beat. It's like he had spit out all his loaded verses before the chorus :smh:
 
The OP can't find one person to agree so it's a wrap. I loved SOC at the time. But looking back it lead to the demise of Hip Hop and opened the door for Rap. SOC dumbed down Hip Hop. One of the most influential albums ever but not great by any means.
 
Nah...Kool Keith was Doctor Who with his shit. Conversational? or Theatrical? Kool Keith had a solid cadence. When I thought heard Illmatic, I thought Nas couldn't ride the beat. It's like he had spit out all his loaded verses before the chorus :smh:

When Ultra Magnetic dropped "Critical Beatdown" in '88, him and Ced Gee didn't always ride the beat. In fact, they were going waaaay left.
 
When Ultra Magnetic dropped "Critical Beatdown" in '88, him and Ced Gee didn't always ride the beat. In fact, they were going waaaay left.

Drop an example: I'm checking out youtube now but all i'm hearing is Chuck D style intros and the influence of Kane
 
Straight Outta Compton/Eazy Duz It was great for shock value.............but greatest?

The Great Adventures of Slick Rick
It Take A Nation of Millions..........
Criminal Minded
Paid In Full

You can name 10 others that are better than "Compton".

guess it's no accident that all the releases you mentioned just HAPPENED to be all east coast artists. and that was part of the problem that the op mentioned. it is IMPOSSIBLE for somebody either from or just in love with the east coast to honestly critique music not from that region when you're talking about 'the best'.

and soc wasn't dope just cause it had 'shock value'. the lyrics. intensity. flow. that album changed the way others flipped it.

now you can argue that krs and rakim BOTH dropped seminal albums that caused other emcees to change up their styles -- and you'd be right. but in terms of birthing a niche genre while you heavily influence hip hop music as a whole? u gotta point to soc. dudes even began to change their recording techniques after that joint dropped
 
Im gonna keep it straight West....on this.

Doggystyle>>Straight Outta Compton
Chronic>>>Straight Outta Compton.

Neither of those changed the game. They were just huge "personal" success stories, and helped commercialize gangsta rap/hip-hop. They were basically pop albums.
 
Or Rakim for that matter; However, I do agree, Ultramagnetic's were very underrated. To be honest, they might be the most underrated hip hop group of the 80's

Kool Moe Dee notes that Nas has an "off-beat conversational flow" in his book There's a God on the Mic - he says: "before Nas, every MC focused on rhyming with a cadence that ultimately put the words that rhymed on beat with the snare drum. Nas created a style of rapping that was more conversational than ever before".[75]

The key word is off beat. Ra was never off beat.
 
P.E. It takes a nation. from beginning to end. Top 10 greatest albums of all time. Not just hip hop.
 
This album is superb only in singlehandedly offering the worst influential style for DECADES TO FOLLOW :eek:

Except for some underground artists, they, along with that Jewish guy that marketed them, showed tha world that they hit best selling records without the usual push from radio. Before this album, greats like LL, Cool G, Rakim, PE, and Big Daddy Kane barely threw in two curses an entire album!!!

That album led the way to the artist not running with their original style and gave in to whatever they thought their fans wanted. :smh: Scary enough, Kanye and skinny jeans hip hop is what finally breaking down all that ganster rubbish beforehand.

Most people fail to realize what the what is in Bold above, the DOC album barely have any cursing in it and the song with the most cursing on his Album just happen to be the song with all of NWA on it The Grand Finale however even on that song the DOC was able to get around using profanity just to be using it.
 
nwa started cursing in rap? public enemy had a song called "sophisticated bitch" on their first album, and schooly d cussed like a muhfucka. the fuck are yall giving props to?
 
Without Schooly D PSK there is no 6 in the morning. Without 6 in the morning, there is no Eazy E Boyz in the Hood. Without easy, there is no NWA

Winner = Schooly D

LS
 
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