nigga are you realizing what you are typing?
Dre Produced NWA....Snoop was influenced by NWA and so was everyone else in the dogpound
no Straight outta Compton...no chronic...no doggystlye
fuck is wrong with niggas..your analogy does not go with this at all just for the individuals involved alone
Point Blank after Run DMC...NWA was the most influential rap group of all time
there is no argument to that fact
niggas just HATE giving the west just due
My analogy makes perfect sense. What the fuck is wrong with you. You keep yelling influence...Im talking about BETTER MUSICAL product. Did the Model T not set the influence for automobiles? Did NWA not set the influence for West Coast Music?
Or since you wanna use direct lineage...is the Model T better than the 2011 Ford Mustang? Because without the Model T there would be no Fords? Come on man, stop trying to sound smart. How the fuck do I HATE the West when I'm giving Doggystyle and the Chronic props? Especially since Doggystyle is my 2nd Favorite CD ever? Make sense...
THE GREATEST HIP HOP ALBUM OF ALL TIME?????? THREAD STARTER NEED THE PISS SLAPPED OUT OF HIS MOUTH. LET ME TELL YOU, STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON IS WHAT DESTROYED THE LAST BLACK REVOLUTION IN AMERICA. BLACK YOUTH HAD STARTED TO PICK UP THEIR CULTURE AGAIN DURING THE LATE 80S, AND NWA USHURED IN GANGSTA RAP AND DRUG DEALING, AND THAT WAS A WRAP FOR BLACK CULTURE. THATS THE CLAIM OF FAME FOR THAT ALBUM. NOW, THE GREATEST HIP HOP ALBUM OF OF TIME, AND IN MY OPINION, ONE OF THE GREATEST ALBUMS OF ALL TIME, IS THIS BELOW:
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My personal favorite is Illmatic, but when you consider the music that came before it, and the influence that the album had on every hip hop song/album after it, regardless of region, how can it not be? It blew open what was acceptable as far as language/content in hip hop music, and the production on the album was light years ahead of anything made in hip hop up until that point. If you don't agree, go back and listen to every hip hop album made prior to and during 1988.
It influenced the style of every single hip hop artist that came after it's release, from Snoop to Nas to Biggie to Scarface (Geto Boys) to Outkast and Wu-Tang. I strongly believe that the only reason that it isn't widely held at that lofty position is because most critics are East Coast biased (and I'm from the East Coast) and most publications can't bring themselves to give the highest honor to a group not from NY. When taken into it's proper context, I don't feel that there is a hip hop album that comes close.![]()
Cant agree with that. One of the criteria for greatness is timelessness. Yeah it might have laid the groundwork but come on man. In no way is Straight Outta Compton a better album than Doggystyle. Shit you could argue that a good 5-7 tracks off Doggystyle would be nice RIGHT now.. you cant argue that for S.O.C.
Without Straight Outta Compton, none of those albums would exist.I'm not just talking musically. When discussing the greats, there are a lot of other elements that must be taken into consideration.
No one ever with a such a "tone deaf flow" before Nas. Say what you want but dude was chasing the beat on too many songs. Allow Kool Moe Dee to tell it:
Kool Moe Dee notes that Nas has an "off-beat conversational flow" in his book There's a God on the Mic - he says: "before Nas, every MC focused on rhyming with a cadence that ultimately put the words that rhymed on beat with the snare drum. Nas created a style of rapping that was more conversational than ever before".[75]
If that's your criteria, then Ice T's "Rhyme Pays" and Schooly D's albums are the greatest, since those 2 paved the way. It's hard to say which album is "the greatest". Cased could be made for "Fear of a Black Planet", "3 Feet High...", "The Chronic", etc.
I guess Moe Dee hadn't heard of Kool Keith.
Nah...Kool Keith was Doctor Who with his shit. Conversational? or Theatrical? Kool Keith had a solid cadence. When I thought heard Illmatic, I thought Nas couldn't ride the beat. It's like he had spit out all his loaded verses before the chorus![]()
When Ultra Magnetic dropped "Critical Beatdown" in '88, him and Ced Gee didn't always ride the beat. In fact, they were going waaaay left.
Straight Outta Compton/Eazy Duz It was great for shock value.............but greatest?
The Great Adventures of Slick Rick
It Take A Nation of Millions..........
Criminal Minded
Paid In Full
You can name 10 others that are better than "Compton".
Im gonna keep it straight West....on this.
Doggystyle>>Straight Outta Compton
Chronic>>>Straight Outta Compton.
I guess Moe Dee hadn't heard of Kool Keith.
Neither of those changed the game. They were just huge "personal" success stories, and helped commercialize gangsta rap/hip-hop. They were basically pop albums.
Or Rakim for that matter; However, I do agree, Ultramagnetic's were very underrated. To be honest, they might be the most underrated hip hop group of the 80's
Kool Moe Dee notes that Nas has an "off-beat conversational flow" in his book There's a God on the Mic - he says: "before Nas, every MC focused on rhyming with a cadence that ultimately put the words that rhymed on beat with the snare drum. Nas created a style of rapping that was more conversational than ever before".[75]
The E Z Duz it album was my fav. Nobody move and boys n the hood. Back in 88.
N's4Life > Straight Outta Compton
Death Certificate > Straight Outta Compton
No One Can Do It Better > Straight Outta Compton
This album is superb only in singlehandedly offering the worst influential style for DECADES TO FOLLOW![]()
Except for some underground artists, they, along with that Jewish guy that marketed them, showed tha world that they hit best selling records without the usual push from radio. Before this album, greats like LL, Cool G, Rakim, PE, and Big Daddy Kane barely threw in two curses an entire album!!!
That album led the way to the artist not running with their original style and gave in to whatever they thought their fans wanted.Scary enough, Kanye and skinny jeans hip hop is what finally breaking down all that ganster rubbish beforehand.